Re: [TV orNotTV] Why did FOX switch to The Orville before the game ended?

2017-09-18 Thread daniel anderson 
Did they show the end of WSH/LARM before?

On Monday, September 18, 2017 at 2:41:23 PM UTC-4, pbrown...@gmail.com 
wrote:
>
> Same here in southern Ontario, where I was watching the FOX 29 Buffalo 
> feed. We got DAL/DEN until the end. The Canadian CTV affiliate simulcasting 
> the game cut away at 8 p.m. because they had the rights to the Emmys. 
>
> On Monday, September 18, 2017 at 12:36:42 AM UTC-4, Ben Scripps wrote:
>>
>>
>> > On Sep 17, 2017, at 11:57 PM, Jim Ellwanger  
>> wrote: 
>> > 
>> > 
>> >> On Sep 17, 2017, at 8:50 PM, PGage  wrote: 
>> >> 
>> >> NBC has a monopoly on NFL starting at 5:00 pm (Pacific Time). This 
>> occasionally (as it did today) effects the Red Zone as well. What is a 
>> little unclear to me, and from this thread, is how this effects the primary 
>> game in a home market. Did Dallas and Denver really have the game cut off 
>> before it ended? That does not sound right. But probably everyone else did. 
>> > 
>> > It wasn’t until kickoff of the Sunday night game that Fox had to cut 
>> away (i.e., about 5:38). I’m positive that Fox got to stay with the game 
>> until its conclusion in Dallas and Denver. I’m also positive that they had 
>> to cut away in markets that had aired the Rams-Redskins or 49ers-Seahawks. 
>> What I’m not sure about is the many markets besides Dallas and Denver that 
>> aired Broncos-Cowboys from the beginning, i.e., everything in red on this 
>> map... 
>> > 
>> > http://506sports.com/2017/02-FOX-L-V2.png 
>> 
>>  
>> > 
>> > …any reports from other members of the list? 
>>
>> Here in Northern Michigan (well and truly in the red zone on that map), 
>> Fox moved us to the Washington game during the delay, then switched back 
>> once things picked back up in Denver.  We got DAL-DEN all the way through 
>> to the end, with “The Orville” starting around 8:51 or so (and running in 
>> its entirety).  The 9pm “Family Guy” rerun was dropped, and the 9:30 
>> “Simpsons” ran until about 10:21.
>
>

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Why did FOX switch to The Orville before the game ended?

2017-09-18 Thread pbrownpbr...@gmail.com 
Same here in southern Ontario, where I was watching the FOX 29 Buffalo 
feed. We got DAL/DEN until the end. The Canadian CTV affiliate simulcasting 
the game cut away at 8 p.m. because they had the rights to the Emmys. 

On Monday, September 18, 2017 at 12:36:42 AM UTC-4, Ben Scripps wrote:
>
>
> > On Sep 17, 2017, at 11:57 PM, Jim Ellwanger  > wrote: 
> > 
> > 
> >> On Sep 17, 2017, at 8:50 PM, PGage  
> wrote: 
> >> 
> >> NBC has a monopoly on NFL starting at 5:00 pm (Pacific Time). This 
> occasionally (as it did today) effects the Red Zone as well. What is a 
> little unclear to me, and from this thread, is how this effects the primary 
> game in a home market. Did Dallas and Denver really have the game cut off 
> before it ended? That does not sound right. But probably everyone else did. 
> > 
> > It wasn’t until kickoff of the Sunday night game that Fox had to cut 
> away (i.e., about 5:38). I’m positive that Fox got to stay with the game 
> until its conclusion in Dallas and Denver. I’m also positive that they had 
> to cut away in markets that had aired the Rams-Redskins or 49ers-Seahawks. 
> What I’m not sure about is the many markets besides Dallas and Denver that 
> aired Broncos-Cowboys from the beginning, i.e., everything in red on this 
> map... 
> > 
> > http://506sports.com/2017/02-FOX-L-V2.png 
> 
>  
> > 
> > …any reports from other members of the list? 
>
> Here in Northern Michigan (well and truly in the red zone on that map), 
> Fox moved us to the Washington game during the delay, then switched back 
> once things picked back up in Denver.  We got DAL-DEN all the way through 
> to the end, with “The Orville” starting around 8:51 or so (and running in 
> its entirety).  The 9pm “Family Guy” rerun was dropped, and the 9:30 
> “Simpsons” ran until about 10:21.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Why did FOX switch to The Orville before the game ended?

2017-09-18 Thread daniel anderson 
Could have FOX left the Cowboys-Broncos game once it got to a 3 score game, 
to switch to the Rams-Redskins game? that would have been a better option, 
since it would have allowed prime to start at 8.

On Sunday, September 17, 2017 at 11:57:17 PM UTC-4, Jim Ellwanger wrote:
>
>
> On Sep 17, 2017, at 8:50 PM, PGage  wrote:
>
> NBC has a monopoly on NFL starting at 5:00 pm (Pacific Time). This 
> occasionally (as it did today) effects the Red Zone as well. What is a 
> little unclear to me, and from this thread, is how this effects the primary 
> game in a home market. Did Dallas and Denver really have the game cut off 
> before it ended? That does not sound right. But probably everyone else did.
>
>
> It wasn’t until kickoff of the Sunday night game that Fox had to cut away 
> (i.e., about 5:38). I’m positive that Fox got to stay with the game until 
> its conclusion in Dallas and Denver. I’m also positive that they had to cut 
> away in markets that had aired the Rams-Redskins or 49ers-Seahawks. What 
> I’m not sure about is the many markets besides Dallas and Denver that aired 
> Broncos-Cowboys from the beginning, i.e., everything in red on this map...
>
> http://506sports.com/2017/02-FOX-L-V2.png
>
> …any reports from other members of the list?
>
>

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Why did FOX switch to The Orville before the game ended?

2017-09-17 Thread Ben Scripps 

> On Sep 17, 2017, at 11:57 PM, Jim Ellwanger  wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Sep 17, 2017, at 8:50 PM, PGage  wrote:
>> 
>> NBC has a monopoly on NFL starting at 5:00 pm (Pacific Time). This 
>> occasionally (as it did today) effects the Red Zone as well. What is a 
>> little unclear to me, and from this thread, is how this effects the primary 
>> game in a home market. Did Dallas and Denver really have the game cut off 
>> before it ended? That does not sound right. But probably everyone else did.
> 
> It wasn’t until kickoff of the Sunday night game that Fox had to cut away 
> (i.e., about 5:38). I’m positive that Fox got to stay with the game until its 
> conclusion in Dallas and Denver. I’m also positive that they had to cut away 
> in markets that had aired the Rams-Redskins or 49ers-Seahawks. What I’m not 
> sure about is the many markets besides Dallas and Denver that aired 
> Broncos-Cowboys from the beginning, i.e., everything in red on this map...
> 
> http://506sports.com/2017/02-FOX-L-V2.png
> 
> …any reports from other members of the list?

Here in Northern Michigan (well and truly in the red zone on that map), Fox 
moved us to the Washington game during the delay, then switched back once 
things picked back up in Denver.  We got DAL-DEN all the way through to the 
end, with “The Orville” starting around 8:51 or so (and running in its 
entirety).  The 9pm “Family Guy” rerun was dropped, and the 9:30 “Simpsons” ran 
until about 10:21.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Why did FOX switch to The Orville before the game ended?

2017-09-17 Thread Jim Ellwanger 

> On Sep 17, 2017, at 8:50 PM, PGage  wrote:
> 
> NBC has a monopoly on NFL starting at 5:00 pm (Pacific Time). This 
> occasionally (as it did today) effects the Red Zone as well. What is a little 
> unclear to me, and from this thread, is how this effects the primary game in 
> a home market. Did Dallas and Denver really have the game cut off before it 
> ended? That does not sound right. But probably everyone else did.

It wasn’t until kickoff of the Sunday night game that Fox had to cut away 
(i.e., about 5:38). I’m positive that Fox got to stay with the game until its 
conclusion in Dallas and Denver. I’m also positive that they had to cut away in 
markets that had aired the Rams-Redskins or 49ers-Seahawks. What I’m not sure 
about is the many markets besides Dallas and Denver that aired Broncos-Cowboys 
from the beginning, i.e., everything in red on this map...

http://506sports.com/2017/02-FOX-L-V2.png 


…any reports from other members of the list?

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Why did FOX switch to The Orville before the game ended?

2017-09-17 Thread PGage 
NBC has a monopoly on NFL starting at 5:00 pm (Pacific Time). This
occasionally (as it did today) effects the Red Zone as well. What is a
little unclear to me, and from this thread, is how this effects the primary
game in a home market. Did Dallas and Denver really have the game cut off
before it ended? That does not sound right. But probably everyone else did.



On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 8:26 PM daniel anderson <
danielanderson2...@gmail.com> wrote:

> But is it standard to NOT cut away from a game, until it's over?
>
> On Sunday, September 17, 2017 at 11:14:54 PM UTC-4, Jim Ellwanger wrote:
>
>>
>> > On Sep 17, 2017, at 6:08 PM, Steve Timko  wrote:
>> >
>> > I'm sorry. They were showing the full game after the other game
>> finished.
>>
>> Okay, after watching the Emmys, I got to my DVR recording of “The
>> Orville,” could actually see what happened, and have an answer:  due to NFL
>> rules, Fox had to cut away from the game once the Sunday night game
>> started, at least in markets that were getting Broncos-Cowboys as “bonus
>> coverage.”
>>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Why did FOX switch to The Orville before the game ended?

2017-09-17 Thread Jim Ellwanger 

> On Sep 17, 2017, at 6:08 PM, Steve Timko  wrote:
> 
> I'm sorry. They were showing the full game after the other game finished.

Okay, after watching the Emmys, I got to my DVR recording of “The Orville,” 
could actually see what happened, and have an answer:  due to NFL rules, Fox 
had to cut away from the game once the Sunday night game started, at least in 
markets that were getting Broncos-Cowboys as “bonus coverage.”

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Why did FOX switch to The Orville before the game ended?

2017-09-17 Thread 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV 

Steve Timko, to Jim Ellwanger, just after 9pm East tonight (17):
>
> No, they were showing me full game. But why not wait until 8pm to show The 
> Orville?
>
>>
>>
Fox's site for the show 

 
(link) said it would be LIVE to all time zones... the intentional "Heidi," 
apparently...

B

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Why did FOX switch to The Orville before the game ended?

2017-09-17 Thread 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV 

Jim Ellwanger, to Steve Timko, tonight (17):
>
>
> > Here in Reno, there's still a minute or so to go in the game between the 
> Broncos and the Cowboys, which was delayed by lightning. It's 5:40 p.m. and 
> they're showing "The Orville" and not the game. None of this makes sense. 
>
> I see, from 506sports.com’s maps, that the primary game they were showing 
> in Reno was 49ers-Seahawks. Did they actually switch to Broncos-Cowboys 
> once that one was over, or did they go to “The O.T.,” the studio show? I 
> assume the latter would have had frequent live look-ins on Broncos-Cowboys, 
> but would have allowed them to put on “The Orville” before the game was 
> over. 
>
> This clashes with what I just told Daniel...

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Why did FOX switch to The Orville before the game ended?

2017-09-17 Thread Steve Timko 
I'm sorry. They were showing the full game after the other game finished.

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On Sep 17, 2017, 6:06 PM, at 6:06 PM, Steve Timko  wrote:
>No, they were showing me full game. But why not wait until 8pm to show
>The Orville?
>
>⁣Not sent from an iPhone.​
>
>On Sep 17, 2017, 5:54 PM, at 5:54 PM, Jim Ellwanger
> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sep 17, 2017, at 5:42 PM, Steve Timko 
>>wrote:
>>> 
>>> Here in Reno, there's still a minute or so to go in the game between
>>the Broncos and the Cowboys, which was delayed by lightning. It's 5:40
>>p.m. and they're showing "The Orville" and not the game. None of this
>>makes sense.
>>
>>I see, from 506sports.com’s maps, that the primary game they were
>>showing in Reno was 49ers-Seahawks. Did they actually switch to
>>Broncos-Cowboys once that one was over, or did they go to “The O.T.,”
>>the studio show? I assume the latter would have had frequent live
>>look-ins on Broncos-Cowboys, but would have allowed them to put on
>“The
>>Orville” before the game was over.
>>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Why did FOX switch to The Orville before the game ended?

2017-09-17 Thread Steve Timko 
No, they were showing me full game. But why not wait until 8pm to show The 
Orville?

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On Sep 17, 2017, 5:54 PM, at 5:54 PM, Jim Ellwanger  
wrote:
>
>> On Sep 17, 2017, at 5:42 PM, Steve Timko 
>wrote:
>> 
>> Here in Reno, there's still a minute or so to go in the game between
>the Broncos and the Cowboys, which was delayed by lightning. It's 5:40
>p.m. and they're showing "The Orville" and not the game. None of this
>makes sense.
>
>I see, from 506sports.com’s maps, that the primary game they were
>showing in Reno was 49ers-Seahawks. Did they actually switch to
>Broncos-Cowboys once that one was over, or did they go to “The O.T.,”
>the studio show? I assume the latter would have had frequent live
>look-ins on Broncos-Cowboys, but would have allowed them to put on “The
>Orville” before the game was over.
>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Why did FOX switch to The Orville before the game ended?

2017-09-17 Thread Jim Ellwanger 

> On Sep 17, 2017, at 5:42 PM, Steve Timko  wrote:
> 
> Here in Reno, there's still a minute or so to go in the game between the 
> Broncos and the Cowboys, which was delayed by lightning. It's 5:40 p.m. and 
> they're showing "The Orville" and not the game. None of this makes sense.

I see, from 506sports.com’s maps, that the primary game they were showing in 
Reno was 49ers-Seahawks. Did they actually switch to Broncos-Cowboys once that 
one was over, or did they go to “The O.T.,” the studio show? I assume the 
latter would have had frequent live look-ins on Broncos-Cowboys, but would have 
allowed them to put on “The Orville” before the game was over.

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[TV orNotTV] Why did FOX switch to The Orville before the game ended?

2017-09-17 Thread Steve Timko 
Here in Reno, there's still a minute or so to go in the game between the
Broncos and the Cowboys, which was delayed by lightning. It's 5:40 p.m. and
they're showing "The Orville" and not the game. None of this makes sense.

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