[TV orNotTV] World Series of Poker

2011-07-15 Thread PGage
I thought I had set a season pass for the WSP, but the first program that
was recorded was yesterday, titled Day 3, Part 2. There are some changes
in the coverage this year - I suppose to some extent a reflection of the
troubles poker has been experiencing lately.

First, they are televising the Main Event live (but on the Deuce). Usually I
prefer live, but in the case of poker, it means they can not show the hole
cards while they are playing (most TV poker uses a mix of commentary
recorded as play unfolds, mixed with commentary recorded later - and it is
only this latter that is done with knowledge of the hole cards). State law
prohibits transmission of the hole cards while the cards are in play. After
each hand is over they are revealing the hole cards. This is interesting
once in a while (to guess along with the players) but it is much more
interesting to watch on a steady basis when the hole cards are visible.
Apparently, the players are also a little worried about having their hole
cards displayed in almost real time to their opponents (the players can't
communicate with any associates monitoring the action on tv for 30 minutes
after the play). I guess to hedge on this, ESPN moves between two different
tables, so only some of the play of each player is revealed. It also means
that, unlike in recent years, we are not getting look-ins at players at
other tables. So even though there are thousands of players in the
tournament, we only see around 20 of them.

A little looking reveals that ESPN3 is streaming Part 1 each day, then
both ESPN3 and ESPN2 show Parts 2 and 3. I can't tell if I somehow missed
Day 1 and Day 2, or if they did not televise those days at all. In the
coverage I have seen they have not discussed poker's problems so far, and
have not really given much information even about ESPN's coverage plans.
Apparently they are still going to stop the tournament when they get to the
final 9 and hold the final table in November - though this seems odd, since
it seemed that they did that so they could string out 2 hours of taped and
produced WSP Main Event coverage every week from August to November to lead
up to it. This makes me think that maybe they are still going to have their
regular recorded coverage, in addition to this live coverage? If I knew they
were going to do that for sure I might skip the rest of the live coverage
and wait for the recorded package.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] World Series of Poker

2011-07-15 Thread Bill Partsch
My guess is, Days 1 and 2 are so massive that live broadcasts would be silly 
and/or impossible to follow--in past WSOP, it has taken as many as four days to 
finish Day 1. Also, the level of play would be like tuning into the World 
Series of Baseball to watch a bunch of high schoolers (if that).

What I saw yesterday was interesting enough, but seeing every hand gives 
viewers a little better sense of how the  majority of hands in no-limit hold 
'em tournaments end before the flop. 

The most intriguing thing I saw was Daniel Negreanu (much beloved pro with 
uncanny ability to read his opponents) folding a small pair when his opponent 
raised big. He had to determine whether the bet indicated a bluff or a monster 
hand. He guessed monster, he was right (opponent had three of a kind, aka a set 
or trips), and because of the new broadcast setup, Negreanu was able to find 
out a mere half hour later that his read was correct and that his agonizing 
fold saved his tournament life. I can see where non-players might find all of 
this monumentally tedious, but it's a great example of how poker really is a 
game of skill. (Search for Negreanu on YouTube to see him look opponents in the 
face and announce their exact cards without having seen them. He's like The 
Mentalist, but for real, albeit limited to a specific environment.)

--Bill

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On Jul 15, 2011, at 1:20 PM, PGage pga...@gmail.com wrote:

 I thought I had set a season pass for the WSP, but the first program that was 
 recorded was yesterday, titled Day 3, Part 2. There are some changes in the 
 coverage this year - I suppose to some extent a reflection of the troubles 
 poker has been experiencing lately.
 
 First, they are televising the Main Event live (but on the Deuce). Usually I 
 prefer live, but in the case of poker, it means they can not show the hole 
 cards while they are playing (most TV poker uses a mix of commentary recorded 
 as play unfolds, mixed with commentary recorded later - and it is only this 
 latter that is done with knowledge of the hole cards). State law prohibits 
 transmission of the hole cards while the cards are in play. After each hand 
 is over they are revealing the hole cards. This is interesting once in a 
 while (to guess along with the players) but it is much more interesting to 
 watch on a steady basis when the hole cards are visible. Apparently, the 
 players are also a little worried about having their hole cards displayed in 
 almost real time to their opponents (the players can't communicate with any 
 associates monitoring the action on tv for 30 minutes after the play). I 
 guess to hedge on this, ESPN moves between two different tables, so only some 
 of the play of each player is revealed. It also means that, unlike in recent 
 years, we are not getting look-ins at players at other tables. So even 
 though there are thousands of players in the tournament, we only see around 
 20 of them.
 
 A little looking reveals that ESPN3 is streaming Part 1 each day, then both 
 ESPN3 and ESPN2 show Parts 2 and 3. I can't tell if I somehow missed Day 1 
 and Day 2, or if they did not televise those days at all. In the coverage I 
 have seen they have not discussed poker's problems so far, and have not 
 really given much information even about ESPN's coverage plans. Apparently 
 they are still going to stop the tournament when they get to the final 9 and 
 hold the final table in November - though this seems odd, since it seemed 
 that they did that so they could string out 2 hours of taped and produced WSP 
 Main Event coverage every week from August to November to lead up to it. This 
 makes me think that maybe they are still going to have their regular recorded 
 coverage, in addition to this live coverage? If I knew they were going to do 
 that for sure I might skip the rest of the live coverage and wait for the 
 recorded package.
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