Re: [TV orNotTV] Billy Graham Coverage

2018-02-22 Thread Steve Timko 
Think of religions as a business and people like Graham make more sense. He 
wasn’t a shepherd leading a flock so much as he was captain of the cheer team 
pursuing the latest goals. “BLOCK THAT GAY! BLOCK THAT GAY!” Graham openly 
supported the war in Vietnam, including bombing of the civilians. Privately his 
anti-Semitic remarks were caught on Nixon’s tape recordings. Both of these are 
anti-Christian but neither goes against the business model.

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On Feb 22, 2018, 10:24 AM, at 10:24 AM, "Kevin M."  
wrote:
>In my own dialogues, I’ve begun to differentiate between Evangelical
>and
>Christian. I don’t believe it is right for any human to judge the faith
>of
>another (I’ve been victimized and fired by people who judged mine), but
>I
>do believe proper definitions/distinctions are important. Graham was an
>Evangelical, but his beliefs were oftentimes the opposite of Christian
>doctrine. As with PGage, I didn’t wish ill against him, but I do not
>share
>his beliefs, nor do I recognize him as a spiritual or moral leader.
>He’s
>dead; now we have his son to contend with.
>
>On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 7:28 AM PGage  wrote:
>
>> Meanwhile I have been struggling (until right now successfully) to
>avoid
>> posting the obvious criticisms of Graham on social media platforms,
>only
>> out of respect to the many people to whom I know Graham was
>important. In
>> my young adulthood, I attended several Graham events, and was never
>much
>> impressed spiritually. Over the years I became more and more
>impatient with
>> his homophobia and sexism, and the longer he persisted in that, the
>less I
>> was able to forgive his decided lack of enthusiasm in supporting
>Civil
>> Rights in the 60s (he did not oppose it, but if he had been more
>actively
>> supportive he probably could have made a big difference). And his son
>is a
>> complete disaster.
>>
>> I’m not glad he’s dead, but the list of people whose death I would
>spend
>> more time grieving is very long.
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 10:53 PM stannc  wrote:
>>
>>> I’m in Charlotte which, among other things, is Bill Graham central.
>>> The three major networks dumped out of their network morning shows
>in
>>> favor of local coverage.
>>> It was odd that WCNC showed local coverage instead of KLG with
>Meagan
>>> Kelley on the Today 9:00 hour doing a tribute to Billy Graham. WBTV
>used
>>> their 9:00an local lifestyle hour to discuss him. It looked like
>WSOC went
>>> to Kelly and Ryan at 9:00.
>>> After that I had to work :)
>>>
>>> -Stan
>>>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Billy Graham Coverage

2018-02-22 Thread Kevin M. 
In my own dialogues, I’ve begun to differentiate between Evangelical and
Christian. I don’t believe it is right for any human to judge the faith of
another (I’ve been victimized and fired by people who judged mine), but I
do believe proper definitions/distinctions are important. Graham was an
Evangelical, but his beliefs were oftentimes the opposite of Christian
doctrine. As with PGage, I didn’t wish ill against him, but I do not share
his beliefs, nor do I recognize him as a spiritual or moral leader. He’s
dead; now we have his son to contend with.

On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 7:28 AM PGage  wrote:

> Meanwhile I have been struggling (until right now successfully) to avoid
> posting the obvious criticisms of Graham on social media platforms, only
> out of respect to the many people to whom I know Graham was important. In
> my young adulthood, I attended several Graham events, and was never much
> impressed spiritually. Over the years I became more and more impatient with
> his homophobia and sexism, and the longer he persisted in that, the less I
> was able to forgive his decided lack of enthusiasm in supporting Civil
> Rights in the 60s (he did not oppose it, but if he had been more actively
> supportive he probably could have made a big difference). And his son is a
> complete disaster.
>
> I’m not glad he’s dead, but the list of people whose death I would spend
> more time grieving is very long.
>
> On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 10:53 PM stannc  wrote:
>
>> I’m in Charlotte which, among other things, is Bill Graham central.
>> The three major networks dumped out of their network morning shows in
>> favor of local coverage.
>> It was odd that WCNC showed local coverage instead of KLG with Meagan
>> Kelley on the Today 9:00 hour doing a tribute to Billy Graham. WBTV used
>> their 9:00an local lifestyle hour to discuss him. It looked like WSOC went
>> to Kelly and Ryan at 9:00.
>> After that I had to work :)
>>
>> -Stan
>>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Billy Graham Coverage

2018-02-22 Thread PGage 
Meanwhile I have been struggling (until right now successfully) to avoid
posting the obvious criticisms of Graham on social media platforms, only
out of respect to the many people to whom I know Graham was important. In
my young adulthood, I attended several Graham events, and was never much
impressed spiritually. Over the years I became more and more impatient with
his homophobia and sexism, and the longer he persisted in that, the less I
was able to forgive his decided lack of enthusiasm in supporting Civil
Rights in the 60s (he did not oppose it, but if he had been more actively
supportive he probably could have made a big difference). And his son is a
complete disaster.

I’m not glad he’s dead, but the list of people whose death I would spend
more time grieving is very long.

On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 10:53 PM stannc  wrote:

> I’m in Charlotte which, among other things, is Bill Graham central.
> The three major networks dumped out of their network morning shows in
> favor of local coverage.
> It was odd that WCNC showed local coverage instead of KLG with Meagan
> Kelley on the Today 9:00 hour doing a tribute to Billy Graham. WBTV used
> their 9:00an local lifestyle hour to discuss him. It looked like WSOC went
> to Kelly and Ryan at 9:00.
> After that I had to work :)
>
> -Stan
>
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