[Twisted-Python] email list downtime

Hello all, This mailing list will be shut down in a few minutes, and should be back online in about 12 hours at the latest. When it comes back, the preferred address will be twis...@python.org . Thanks, -g___

Re: [Twisted-Python] Moving the Twisted-Python and Twisted-Web mailing lists too Python mailman3

> On Aug 2, 2021, at 1:10 AM, Thomas Grainger wrote: > > I actually think it's better to move twisted-web first and see what it > looks, then mess about there with redirects, then do the main mailing > list. I think the redirects would be fairly easy as the URL structure > is the same Sounds

Re: [Twisted-Python] bad news about twistedmatrix.com's hosting

> On Aug 1, 2021, at 2:49 AM, Adi Roiban <mailto:adiroi...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Hi Glyph > > Thanks for sending the message. As a wise computer once sung, "We do what we must, because we can". > This is bad, but I am confident that we can do the m

Re: [Twisted-Python] Moving the Twisted-Python and Twisted-Web mailing lists too Python mailman3

Great news. I'd be happy to move the mailing lists over to let someone else maintain their infrastructure. Particularly if we could get off of Mailman 2, which has been no fun to maintain. Many personal email addresses of core team members (including, um, this one) are forwarded by our mail

[Twisted-Python] new success story: Battlehouse Games

I ran across a PyCon APAC talk about this, and the speaker generously offered to write a blurb for our site, which I've posted here: https://twistedmatrix.com/trac/wiki/SuccessStories#BattlehouseGames > Battlehouse creates

[Twisted-Python] bad news about twistedmatrix.com's hosting

Hello Twistors, Our venerable hosting provider, tummy.com , will be terminating their business operations on September 30, 2021. >>> datetime.date(2021, 9, 30) - datetime.date.today() datetime.timedelta(days=60) In addition to being a bit personally sad - Tummy has been an

Re: [Twisted-Python] Twisted 21.7.0 Final Release Announcement

Thanks again, Adi! I've posted this release to https://labs.twistedmatrix.com/ and https://twitter.com/twistedmatrix -g > On Jul 28, 2021, at 2:07 AM, Adi Roiban wrote: > > On behalf of the Twisted contributors I

Re: [Twisted-Python] reviews

up to date. We are now down to 17 matches, but this does give me a commanding lead on this month's leaderboard: I look forward to being dethroned. -g > On Jul 19, 2021, at 9:38 PM, Glyph wrote: > > Hello Twisted friends, > > This is just a friendly reminder that https://

Re: [Twisted-Python] reviews

> On Jul 20, 2021, at 5:21 AM, Adi Roiban wrote: > > Hi > > Thanks Barry for reporting the issue. > > It should be back online. > > The twisted-web process was down. > I have started it. If anyone has the time to deal with it, we *do* have a free subscription donated by the friendly folks

Re: [Twisted-Python] Error using "python -m twisted.conch.stdio" command in command prompt

>>> _ > <http://twistedmatrix.com/> type=MX class=IN ttl=1s auth=False>], [], [])> Is the goal here specifically to do this with Conch, or would doing it with Jupyter Notebook (using something like https://twitter.com/glyph/status/1417360623818575876 <https://twitter.com/g

[Twisted-Python] reviews

up to them to decide if your review is adequate before acting on it). Project members (should) have a "*" next to their name in the "submitted by" list. (If they don't I think someone needs to go manually update a list of strings, feel free to report issues if that's

Re: [Twisted-Python] Enable auto-merge for twisted/twisted

I think we should enable it everywhere. -g > On Jul 19, 2021, at 1:23 AM, Adi Roiban wrote: > > > > On Sun, 18 Jul 2021 at 01:04, Glyph <mailto:gl...@twistedmatrix.com>> wrote: > Nope, I'm fully in favor. When we're done reviewing, and waiting for CI, > review

Re: [Twisted-Python] Twisted-Infra org - twm added as maintainer

Hi Adi, This, and adding Tom to dornkirk/SSH, both sound good to me. I wish we had a more formal process for these various permissions but I think whatever the standard we would set, Tom has exceeded the bar by now. Thanks. > On Jul 14, 2021, at 5:27 AM, Adi Roiban wrote: > > Hi, > > I

Re: [Twisted-Python] Enable auto-merge for twisted/twisted

Nope, I'm fully in favor. When we're done reviewing, and waiting for CI, reviewers should be able to set auto-merge and walk away. Thank you for raising the issue! > On Jul 14, 2021, at 5:33 AM, Adi Roiban wrote: > > Hi, > > Do you see any issues if we enable the auto-merge feature for

Re: [Twisted-Python] twisted.web HTTPS client certificate

> On Jul 14, 2021, at 7:05 AM, Barry Scott wrote: > > On Tuesday, 13 July 2021 22:48:18 BST Glyph wrote: >> >>> On Jul 13, 2021, at 2:09 AM, Barry Scott wrote: >>> >>> On Monday, 12 July 2021 09:27:19 BST Glyph wrote: >>>> FWIW I

Re: [Twisted-Python] Twisted 21.7.0 Pre-Release Announcement

> On Jul 17, 2021, at 3:47 AM, Adi Roiban wrote: > > > > On Fri, 16 Jul 2021 at 20:27, Glyph <mailto:gl...@twistedmatrix.com>> wrote: > > >> On Jul 16, 2021, at 2:20 AM, Richard van der Hoff > <mailto:rich...@matrix.org>>

Re: [Twisted-Python] Twisted 21.7.0 Pre-Release Announcement

> On Jul 16, 2021, at 2:20 AM, Richard van der Hoff wrote: > > On 16/07/2021 00:18, Glyph wrote: > >> >> >>> On Jul 15, 2021, at 9:00 AM, Richard van der Hoff >> <mailto:rich...@matrix.org>> wrote: >>> >>> We

Re: [Twisted-Python] Twisted 21.7.0 Pre-Release Announcement

> On Jul 15, 2021, at 9:00 AM, Richard van der Hoff wrote: > > We can't just go and add type annotations because we need to maintain > compatibility with older Twisted (to make it possible to package in Debian et > al). > > Any suggestions for keeping mypy happy? > Are you saying you need

Re: [Twisted-Python] Enable pre-commit.ci for twisted/twisted

> On Jul 15, 2021, at 7:35 AM, Jean-Paul Calderone > wrote: > > Can you elaborate on this a little bit? First time contributors won't be > able to push a branch to twisted/twisted. Does giving pre-commit.ci > write access to twisted/twisted also give it write >

Re: [Twisted-Python] Enable pre-commit.ci for twisted/twisted

> On Jul 15, 2021, at 7:25 AM, Adi Roiban wrote: > > I am +0 on this change due to security reasons...but I do think that it will > reduce a bit of the frustration for first time contributors. > I'm +1; we've accepted a lot of cloud risk already, and this seems like a lot of benefit for

Re: [Twisted-Python] twisted.web HTTPS client certificate

> On Jul 13, 2021, at 2:09 AM, Barry Scott wrote: > > On Monday, 12 July 2021 09:27:19 BST Glyph wrote: >> FWIW I would avoid calling the pyOpenSSL APIs for this, since hopefully >> we'll manage to move away from OpenSSL and at least somewhat abstract away >> th

Re: [Twisted-Python] twisted.web HTTPS client certificate

me > the transport has no peer certificate. > > same error when I use wget as a client so I think my problem is in the > server code. I'm using self-signed certificates > > Any clues as to what I'm doing wrong? > > Ian > > > As commented by Glyph you w

Re: [Twisted-Python] twisted.web HTTPS client certificate

> On Jul 12, 2021, at 12:07 AM, Ian Haywood wrote: > > I am trying to work out how to retrieve on the server a X.509 certificate > presented by the HTTPS client. This code tries to tell me the transport has > no peer certificate. > > same error when I use wget as a client so I think my

Re: [Twisted-Python] Twisted 21.7.0 Pre-Release Announcement

Thank you Adi! Very glad to see us collectively getting back on the release-management horse again! And it was super encouraging to see how quickly you were able to get this out, with all the automation that everyone (not least of all yourself) has been building to make this process faster

Re: [Twisted-Python] Twisted Release Planning

On July 5, 2021 at 3:55:38 PM, Adi Roiban (a...@roiban.ro(mailto:a...@roiban.ro)) wrote: > Hi, > > I don't have much time or much "need" but if needed I can help with a new > Twisted release. Hooray! I’m hype for 21.7! > > I am still working on py3 migration as an urgent task so I am

Re: [Twisted-Python] IRC still alive?

On July 5, 2021 at 4:44:26 PM, Adi Roiban (a...@roiban.ro(mailto:a...@roiban.ro)) wrote: > Hi > > On Tue, 6 Jul 2021 at 00:02, Tom Most > mailto:t...@freecog.net)> wrote: > > Hi Adi, > > > > IRC has moved to Libera.Chat(https://libera.chat/) due to the Freenode > >

Re: [Twisted-Python] IRC still alive?

Freenode is dead, but Twisted has registered #twisted and #twisted-dev on libera.chat. -g > On Jul 5, 2021, at 3:45 PM, Adi Roiban wrote: > > Hi, > > Only now I had time to check the Twisted IRC channel and it looks like the > channels are no longer registered ... and the IRC bot is not

Re: [Twisted-Python] itervalues in pypi package

Yes, this is expected. We haven't had a release in the last 3 months. The main issue is that we don't currently have any volunteers to be release manager. -g > On Jul 2, 2021, at 2:27 PM, Nathaniel Haggard wrote: > > When making a python3 virtualenv and installing twisted I get

Re: [Twisted-Python] startTLS errors not propagating to Factory

> On Apr 29, 2021, at 3:09 AM, Richard van der Hoff wrote: > Right! That sounds plausible, and certainly gives me some places to poke. > I'll have another look later. Thanks very much! > Glad to help. Looking forward to the resolution on this! For what it's worth: it may also be useful to

Re: [Twisted-Python] startTLS errors not propagating to Factory

> On Apr 28, 2021, at 2:43 PM, Richard van der Hoff wrote: > > On 28/04/2021 07:06, Glyph wrote: >>> Is the SMTP code holding the Factory wrong? Or is it reasonable to expect >>> the verification error to propagate into clientConnectionFailed - in which &g

Re: [Twisted-Python] Does anyone know why trunk is failing CI on PyPy 7.3.4?

It's merged. On Wed, Apr 28, 2021, at 3:07 AM, Adi Roiban wrote: > Hi > > PR at https://github.com/twisted/twisted/pull/1592 > > I hope we can get a quick review and make the trunk green again :) > > Cheeers > > On Wed, 28 Apr 2021 at 10:30, Adi Roiban wrote: >> Hi, >> >> A quick diff to

Re: [Twisted-Python] startTLS errors not propagating to Factory

> On Apr 9, 2021, at 4:07 PM, Richard van der Hoff wrote: > > Hi folks, > > I've been investigating https://github.com/matrix-org/synapse/issues/9566, > which amounts to: "when there is a TLS error connecting to the SMTP server, > the resultant exception is unreadable". > > I think I've

Re: [Twisted-Python] IDNA problem in twisted

> On Apr 27, 2021, at 8:58 PM, Wim Lewis wrote: > > On Thursday, April 8, 2021 8:43:35 AM PDT, Barry Scott wrote: >> We just added a patch to our twisted to prevent twisted from doing idna >> validation. >> _idnaBytes and _idnaText not convert from bytes to unicode based on the type >> of >>

Re: [Twisted-Python] Codecov.io security incident

> On Apr 16, 2021, at 11:26 AM, Adi Roiban > wrote: > > For twisted/twisted and I think that other repos the main secret available > for GitHub Action is the PYPY upload token. Just to make sure here - you mean PyPI, right? > I guess that what we can do is stop using

Re: [Twisted-Python] GitHub Actions parallelism limit increase

> On Mar 30, 2021, at 7:57 AM, Kyle Altendorf wrote: > > Hi All, > > Has anyone contacted GitHub to see if they would be willing to increase the > parallelism limit in Actions? My understanding is that we maintain two CI > systems (GitHub Actions and Azure Pipelines) for the sake of more >

Re: [Twisted-Python] Enable and use GitHub Discussions for twisted/twisted

> On Mar 29, 2021, at 7:27 AM, Adi Roiban wrote: > > Hi, > > Should I enable GitHub discussions for twisted/twisted repo? Rather than phrasing this in terms of advantages & disadvantages, I think it might be more fruitful to talk about what problem we would ostensibly be trying to solve by

[Twisted-Python] Small amount of feedback for a contributor to address?

I just reviewed https://twistedmatrix.com/trac/ticket/10052#comment:5 and it’s almost landable, it just needs a small amount of feedback addressed to land. Given that the submitter had to wait months for this review I don’t know if they’re tracking it closely, so I figured I’d raise it here to

Re: [Twisted-Python] Strange recursion error with twisted.web

> On Mar 16, 2021, at 4:20 AM, Peter Westlake wrote: > > On Sun, 14 Mar 2021, at 02:08, Glyph wrote: >> >> I did indeed have a half-finished experiment to fix this. The fix is now >> finished and in review here: >> https://twistedmatrix.com/trac/

Re: [Twisted-Python] automat question

> On Mar 16, 2021, at 1:09 AM, Chris Withers wrote: > > > On 15/03/2021 09:34, Glyph wrote: >>> Right, but as best I can tell, outputs in automat have to be defined as >>> part of the state machine class, I need targets only available after class >>> i

Re: [Twisted-Python] automat question

> On Mar 15, 2021, at 1:18 AM, Chris Withers wrote: > > On 09/03/2021 18:53, Glyph wrote: >>> On Mar 9, 2021, at 3:18 AM, Chris Withers >> <mailto:ch...@withers.org>> wrote: >>> >>> I'm not sure we're quite on the same page: I'm not looking t

Re: [Twisted-Python] Strange recursion error with twisted.web

> On Mar 11, 2021, at 4:12 AM, Peter Westlake wrote: > > On Wed, 10 Mar 2021, at 23:11, Glyph wrote: >> >> Would you mind filing a ticket in trac, or digging one up if you can >> find it? This problem rings a bell, and I think I might actually have >>

Re: [Twisted-Python] Strange recursion error with twisted.web

> On Mar 10, 2021, at 3:09 AM, Peter Westlake wrote: > > On Tue, 9 Mar 2021, at 19:28, Glyph wrote: >> >> >>> On Mar 9, 2021, at 4:54 AM, Peter Westlake wrote: >>> >>> I'm getting a "maximum recursion depth exceeded" error th

Re: [Twisted-Python] Strange recursion error with twisted.web

> On Mar 9, 2021, at 4:54 AM, Peter Westlake wrote: > > I'm getting a "maximum recursion depth exceeded" error that appears to be > coming from flatten(). The odd thing is that it only happens sometimes. The > HTML that's being flattened does have a few Deferreds in it. Those come from >

Re: [Twisted-Python] automat question

lled when this happens? Again... have outputs. I think there's something you're leaving out about how you want to have some generalized output, but without knowing a bit more it's hard to say how it could help more :). -g > > cheers, > > Chris > > On 07/03/2021 22:34, Glyph

Re: [Twisted-Python] automat question

Automat is designed to make this sort of thing intentionally annoying, as you have discovered:). The idea is that if you want to know this sort of internal state, it’s for a specific reason. That's not a blanket "No" — see for example how automat deals with serialization — but each such

Re: [Twisted-Python] conch bytes/str traceback when /etc/ssh/moduli is not present

> On Mar 5, 2021, at 3:24 AM, Colin Watson wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 04, 2021 at 04:16:59PM -0800, Glyph wrote: >> There are a bunch of tickets you could file here: >> >> Fixing the search path to comport with modern standards >> Automatically generating a new o

Re: [Twisted-Python] Klein?

> On Mar 4, 2021, at 9:01 PM, Robert DiFalco wrote: > > Thanks! The trick will be figuring out how to handle Python exception vs > werkzeug exception, and the branched, error handling routes etc. Currently > this is the sort of data structure I'm posting to Data Dog. But I can make it > a

Re: [Twisted-Python] conch bytes/str traceback when /etc/ssh/moduli is not present

> On Mar 4, 2021, at 3:02 PM, Werner Thie wrote: > > On 3/4/21 08:51, Glyph wrote: > >> Even if we want a traceback, a TypeError on str/bytes seems like the wrong >> kind to have. Please file a bug (and open a PR, if you can :-)). >> >> -g > &g

Re: [Twisted-Python] conch bytes/str traceback when /etc/ssh/moduli is not present

Even if we want a traceback, a TypeError on str/bytes seems like the wrong kind to have. Please file a bug (and open a PR, if you can :-)). -g > On Mar 4, 2021, at 10:24 AM, Werner Thie wrote: > > Aloha > > should the case of a missing moduli file be handled more gracefully than > with a

Re: [Twisted-Python] Developer docs should be updated on wiki when steps changed in code?

> On Mar 1, 2021, at 5:30 AM, Adi Roiban wrote: > > > > On Wed, 3 Feb 2021 at 18:09, Glyph <mailto:gl...@twistedmatrix.com>> wrote: > > [snip] > > I can't quickly find the place where we agreed to this, but I think several > years ago at this poi

Re: [Twisted-Python] Klein?

> On Mar 1, 2021, at 12:51 PM, Robert DiFalco wrote: > > Is this the right place to ask klein questions? Absolutely, it's a Twisted org project. > I'm writing a metrics plugin for Klein and I can't figure out how to inject a > metrics handler so that I can get route, path, duration, and

Re: [Twisted-Python] [Twisted-web] Twisted 21.2.0 Release Announcement

> On Feb 28, 2021, at 2:27 AM, Craig Rodrigues wrote: > > On behalf of Twisted Matrix Laboratories, I am honored to announce the > release of Twisted 21.2.0! Thank you so much for shepherding this release to completion, Craig. It's so good to have a recent release out in the world again!

Re: [Twisted-Python] Twisted v21.2.0 breaks Crossbar.io

> On Mar 3, 2021, at 4:58 AM, Jean-Paul Calderone > wrote: > > Broadly, I agree. But not with this part. It seems like there is clearly a > trade-off that is better for everyone. The trade-off represented by #1298: > Breaks application code without providing any new functionality or fixing

Re: [Twisted-Python] Twisted v21.2.0 breaks Crossbar.io

> On Mar 3, 2021, at 8:25 AM, Richard van der Hoff wrote: > > > On 03/03/2021 08:07, Glyph wrote: >> >> If dependencies could start testing against Twisted trunk in some capacity, >> we could get notified close to when unintentionally breaking changes occur,

Re: [Twisted-Python] Twisted v21.2.0 breaks Crossbar.io

> On Mar 2, 2021, at 6:10 PM, Jean-Paul Calderone > wrote: > > Policy aside, this change doesn't seem like much of an improvement to me. If > I were to guess, I would guess the change was made to satisfy some check Mypy > is now being asked to make about Twisted. If that's the case, it

Re: [Twisted-Python] Need help releasing new version of Twisted incremental

> On Mar 1, 2021, at 11:13 AM, Craig Rodrigues wrote: > > > > On Mon, Mar 1, 2021 at 9:13 AM Colin Watson > wrote: > > Isn't this just because incremental hasn't had a release since 17.5.0? > I added post= support way back in >

Re: [Twisted-Python] Twisted 21.2.0rc1 Release Candidate Announcement

Thank you Craig for getting this out! On Valentines day, no less :-) ❤️. Very excited that the release train is back on the tracks!  It's been a very rough year. Thank you to everyone who contributed to the 225 tickets that have been closed during this release, and thanks also to everyone

Re: [Twisted-Python] Twisted trunk and klein?

> On Feb 11, 2021, at 2:09 PM, Glyph wrote: > > > >> On Feb 11, 2021, at 1:04 PM, Glyph > <mailto:gl...@twistedmatrix.com>> wrote: >> >> >>> On Feb 11, 2021, at 11:41 AM, Wilfredo Sánchez Vega >> <mailto:wsanc...@wsanchez.net&

Re: [Twisted-Python] Twisted trunk and klein?

> On Feb 11, 2021, at 1:04 PM, Glyph wrote: > > >> On Feb 11, 2021, at 11:41 AM, Wilfredo Sánchez Vega > <mailto:wsanc...@wsanchez.net>> wrote: >> >>> My concern here is that Twisted may have added a dependency on requests, >>> a

Re: [Twisted-Python] Twisted trunk and klein?

> On Feb 11, 2021, at 1:15 PM, Adi Roiban wrote: > > I guess that we can remove idna from setup.cfg TLS section in Twisted > Nope; we use it directly, in https://github.com/twisted/twisted/blob/7cf6c8bc320ac5fd96b4784f6feb932ea819856d/src/twisted/internet/_idna.py

Re: [Twisted-Python] Twisted trunk and klein?

> On Feb 11, 2021, at 11:41 AM, Wilfredo Sánchez Vega > wrote: > >> My concern here is that Twisted may have added a dependency on requests, >> and that dependency means that if you want IDNA==3.1, as Klein’s tox.ini >> does, that you aren’t allowed to. That seems weak; I’d say a bug. No?

Re: [Twisted-Python] Twisted trunk and klein?

> On Feb 10, 2021, at 3:18 PM, Craig Rodrigues wrote: > > Hi, > > I quickly asked Wilfredo if Twisted trunk worked with Klein, and he mentioned > that he saw this dependency issue on the Twisted klein side when used > with Twisted trunk: > > The conflict is caused by: >The user requested

Re: [Twisted-Python] Moving iocpsupport to an external package? Implications on Windows?

> On Feb 10, 2021, at 6:45 AM, Craig Rodrigues wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, February 10, 2021, Glyph <mailto:gl...@twistedmatrix.com>> wrote: > > >> On Feb 10, 2021, at 12:40 AM, Craig Rodrigues > <mailto:rodr...@crodrigues.org>> wro

Re: [Twisted-Python] Getting ready to do a release of Twisted

code freezes on trunk is the whole reason the process specifically uses a branch that is merged after the fact.) -glyph ___ Twisted-Python mailing list Twisted-Python@twistedmatrix.com https://twistedmatrix.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twisted-python

Re: [Twisted-Python] Moving iocpsupport to an external package? Implications on Windows?

> On Feb 10, 2021, at 12:40 AM, Craig Rodrigues wrote: > > How will this patch change for people installing Twisted on Windows? > > Twisted is still used by a lot of users on Windows, and the IOCP Reactor is > still used on this platform. This line is what does the trick:

Re: [Twisted-Python] Developer docs should be updated on wiki when steps changed in code?

> On Feb 3, 2021, at 4:51 AM, Craig Rodrigues wrote: > > In this PR: https://github.com/twisted/twisted/pull/1461 > > some changes were made to the Twisted development process > for running the various linters before committing code. > > I

[Twisted-Python] resolving release management conflict

Hello Twisted community! Recently we've had some emotional language around the release process. On https://github.com/twisted/twisted/pull/1464 , Craig said several times that he found Adi's work and process changes "very aggressive". Obviously,

Re: [Twisted-Python] Thread Cancelled

PM, Robert DiFalco wrote: > > That makes sense, thank you. A timeout seems unlikely but maybe the client is > closing the connection due to a network issue. This is an extremely rare > occurrence. > > On Sun, Jan 24, 2021 at 2:41 PM Glyph <mailto:gl...@twistedmatrix.com&g

Re: [Twisted-Python] Thread Cancelled

While a socket is open and receiving data, recv() will either give you a non-zero number of bytes if bytes are ready, or an EWOULDBLOCK (AKA EAGAIN) if no bytes are ready. A result of zero bytes (the empty string) means "end of file" - the other end has closed the socket. So what's happening

Re: [Twisted-Python] Questions about Project Leadership committee

> On Jan 24, 2021, at 5:48 AM, Adi Roiban wrote: > > It's just a personal frustration that we need to make extra effort, when we > don't have much time and energy for code reviews. > I feel this every single day :) Thanks, -g___ Twisted-Python

Re: [Twisted-Python] Questions about Project Leadership committee

> On Jan 24, 2021, at 1:24 AM, Adi Roiban wrote: > > Hi, > > On Sun, 24 Jan 2021 at 04:29, Glyph <mailto:gl...@twistedmatrix.com>> wrote: > > On January 23, 2021 at 6:10:04 PM, Craig Rodrigues (rodr...@crodrigues.org > <mailto:rodr...@crodrigues.org&g

Re: [Twisted-Python] Questions about Project Leadership committee

On January 23, 2021 at 6:10:04 PM, Craig Rodrigues (rodr...@crodrigues.org(mailto:rodr...@crodrigues.org)) wrote: > > > On Sat, Jan 23, 2021 at 4:54 PM Glyph > mailto:gl...@twistedmatrix.com)> wrote: > > > > > > At the time the commit

Re: [Twisted-Python] Questions about Project Leadership committee

On January 23, 2021 at 1:36:40 PM, Craig Rodrigues (rodr...@crodrigues.org(mailto:rodr...@crodrigues.org)) wrote: > Hi, > I asked some questions about the Twisted project leadership committee here: > > https://twistedmatrix.com/pipermail/twisted-python/2020-December/065367.html > > but it

Re: [Twisted-Python] Upcoming Twisted Release

> On Dec 28, 2020, at 9:53 AM, Glyph wrote: > >> It might take me a few days to complete this, since I am in the middle of >> holidays now, >> so won't be able to complete a release until the beginning of January. > > Everybody should be able to take a break o

Re: [Twisted-Python] reactor for Linux io_uring

> On Jan 10, 2021, at 4:42 PM, Ian Haywood wrote: > > > > On 8/01/2021 7:23 am, Glyph wrote: >> >> The mess of ctypes stuff > unclear what you mean: either the aio implementation or statx.py > Both, really, but I was mainly talking about statx

Re: [Twisted-Python] reactor for Linux io_uring

> On Jan 7, 2021, at 3:24 AM, Ian Haywood wrote: > > For async file I/O my plan would be to export a new IFilesystem (which is > closely based on conch.interfaces.ISFTPServer) apps would be have to be > written to use it, conch could with minimal tweaking, and unsurprisingly the > SMB

Re: [Twisted-Python] reactor for Linux io_uring

I suspect that this may require somewhat less... cognitive surface area than your other contributions :). And hey, we have a vaccine now, which means that maybe things will go back to normal or close enough to it that I'll have enough capacity to get back to it myself :) -g > On Jan 3, 2021,

Re: [Twisted-Python] Plan/Goal for GitHub Sponsors

It’s complicated and I’m not a lawyer, so maybe it is indeed not a problem. But in brief it’s like trademark protection, kind of, in that it becomes SFC’s problem to be aware that you’ve said these things and tell you not to say them. The twisted project (which is a bit of an amorphous concept

Re: [Twisted-Python] Plan/Goal for GitHub Sponsors

.) On January 3, 2021 at 3:32:56 PM, Glyph (gl...@twistedmatrix.com(mailto:gl...@twistedmatrix.com)) wrote: > You can’t fundraise for a job opening that you haven’t cleared with the SFC > as mission-aligned and properly transparent; this could get them in trouble > with the IRS. You’ll need

Re: [Twisted-Python] Plan/Goal for GitHub Sponsors

You can’t fundraise for a job opening that you haven’t cleared with the SFC as mission-aligned and properly transparent; this could get them in trouble with the IRS. You’ll need to clear this by writing a grant proposal and having it approved first. Please delete this posting from the sponsors

Re: [Twisted-Python] Logging and SpawnProcess

One minor point, if this is within your power: don't marshal data over stdout; sometimes libraries scribble on it. Open an arbitrary additional file descriptor - say, 7 - and put your marshalled data there. Definitely never use stderr for marshaling anything but lines of text - you're not

Re: [Twisted-Python] Updating the project leadership committee

be a bit more transparent. On December 28, 2020 at 5:52:08 PM, Craig Rodrigues (rodr...@crodrigues.org(mailto:rodr...@crodrigues.org)) wrote: > > > On Sat, Dec 26, 2020 at 2:01 PM Glyph > mailto:gl...@twistedmatrix.com)> wrote: > > > > I am extremely enthusi

Re: [Twisted-Python] Upcoming Twisted Release

> On Dec 28, 2020, at 9:50 AM, Glyph wrote: > > I'm also against this. Inactivity for a week or two is not enough reason to > allow a known regression to be present in a release. > I should clarify that maybe I haven't processed the full context for this specific issue thou

Re: [Twisted-Python] Upcoming Twisted Release

s.html > > <https://docs.twistedmatrix.com/en/latest/core/development/policy/release-process.html> > > > I was previously working on releasing Twisted. I was running into various > roadblocks, but was moving forward, > and got permission from Glyph to move forward

Re: [Twisted-Python] Upcoming Twisted Release

> On Dec 28, 2020, at 3:38 AM, Jean-Paul Calderone > wrote: > > I guess there are no comments against removing a ticket from the > release-blocking list if the ticket is not active for 1 or 2 weeks. > > Commenting against this was the main reason for my earlier reply. I've left > my quoted

Re: [Twisted-Python] Updating the project leadership committee

ote: > >  > Hi, > > Based on a comment from Glyph > > > The current "project leadership committee" is more than half made up of > > people who are a. no longer affiliated with the project and b. never answer > > their email at this point, > > I st

Re: [Twisted-Python] Unjellying and circular references?

Out official bug tracker is at https://twistedmatrix.com/trac/newticket — if you could file it there it would be great. (Github login required.) Thanks! > On Dec 16, 2020, at 2:21 AM, Jasper Phillips wrote: > >  > > >> On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 6:08 AM Jean-Paul Calderone >> wrote: >>> On

Re: [Twisted-Python] Participating to GitHub Sponsors

The money is first allocated to keeping the lights on (i.e.: paying for the infrastructure required to host twistedmatrix.com ). If we manage to raise enough to go beyond that, then if we can clear the procedural hurdles necessary to spend money (i.e.: the current

Re: [Twisted-Python] Current twisted dns client just doesn't work

Thank you for your contribution. I'm looking forward to getting this bug fixed! -g > On Dec 11, 2020, at 7:59 AM, spam tam wrote: > > I will try to pass the rest of the checklist > > On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 6:45 PM Jean-Paul Calderone > mailto:exar...@twistedmatrix.com>> wrote: > On Fri, Dec

Re: [Twisted-Python] Current twisted dns client just doesn't work

Hi Barry! > On Dec 8, 2020, at 6:57 AM, Barry Scott wrote: > > I recall that the DNS caching code cannot work and we replaced all the > logic. Did you open a ticket for this? I realize we're a bit bottlenecked on reviewer bandwidth and stuff isn't getting integrated quickly, but "cannot

Re: [Twisted-Python] revert / rework of "AMPv2" change?

> On Oct 21, 2020, at 10:34 AM, Jonathan Bastien-Filiatrault > wrote: > > On 2020-10-20 04 h 57, adi at roiban.ro (Adi Roiban) wrote: >> Just my 2 cents >> I think that whether this should be reverted or reworked should be between >> the person raising thi

Re: [Twisted-Python] smb component progress

nchronous file access > > I have tried to keep the code divided into logically separate chunks . my > first chunk received comments from glyph 2 months ago but has remained in the > review queue since. > > https://twistedmatrix.com/trac/ticket/9818 > > is there anyone avail

Re: [Twisted-Python] twisted vs asyncio vs tornado (and other event loops?)

I still don't personally have time to execute on this, but I still think it's an important thing we should do if anyone has time to hack on it :) -g > On Nov 23, 2020, at 3:10 AM, Chris Withers wrote: > > Hi All, > > Just bumped into Glyph's post from last year: >

Re: [Twisted-Python] Re-run Azure tests

t's login process or the confusing mess of domains they use; this is literally what I have to do to get my login to work. You probably *don't* need to clear them for Github since GH's own login is not broken in the same horrible way that MS's is. At least, I haven't had to. Happy logins, all, -glyp

Re: [Twisted-Python] towncrier review policies and etiquette (and maybe releases too)

I'd love to update these policy documents to have something explicitly org-wide, but until somebody has the time to go through and do that properly, this is generally a good assumption to have. > On Oct 21, 2020, at 1:59 PM, Tom Most wrote: > > I think that it's fine to fall back to the

[Twisted-Python] revert / rework of "AMPv2" change?

a finger on the pulse of where the "v2" conversation has been happening? -glyph ___ Twisted-Python mailing list Twisted-Python@twistedmatrix.com https://twistedmatrix.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twisted-python

Re: [Twisted-Python] Re-run Azure tests

> On Oct 13, 2020, at 4:26 PM, Adi Roiban wrote: > > Thanks. So you need to be logged with github account and not your normal > Azure/Devops account. > I guess most of us are connected to Azure using the Azure AD account. > > I was not expecting to see "Login via Github" on the MS login

Re: [Twisted-Python] Mailgun Email Service Replacement Proposal

> On Oct 2, 2020, at 11:35 PM, Glyph wrote: > > Right now, I'm dealing with a minor issue where our "plan" (which, again, > Mailgun has generously given us for free) no longer includes the ability to > process incoming email... so, for example, this email is onl

Re: [Twisted-Python] Request for new Twisted release?

> On Oct 3, 2020, at 4:15 PM, Craig Rodrigues wrote: > > > > On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 10:11 AM Glyph <mailto:gl...@twistedmatrix.com>> wrote: > > >> On Sep 22, 2020, at 3:42 PM, Craig Rodrigues > <mailto:rodr...@crodrigues.org>> wrote: >&g

[Twisted-Python] Mailgun Email Service Replacement Proposal

the project. However, Mailgun has never been a super close fit for what we actually want as a project (see for example https://github.com/glyph/mg2dsn <https://github.com/glyph/mg2dsn> which papers over some of the differences between what they provide and what we actually want), and over the

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