My previous post is waiting to be moderated since I'm a newbie I think, but I was wrong. I thought it was a get vs. post issue, but it seems to be that my code works very intermittently. The error is always a 401 unauthorized in getting the access token from the request token. but once in a while it works fine. I'm using the Ruby tutorial from the wiki pretty much verbatim for now. To get it to work initially I had to add the authorize url to the oauth::consumer new call (rather than use the defaults) but that may have just been the intermittent nature. I'd like to debug this myself but I can't see where the authorize would ever return a 401 since I just got the request token (I can see where the previous step would return unauthorized if the user denied or some error occurred there). Anywhere I can look for hints? Could it be something about the fact I have rtied and failed a few times? I don't think I could have hit any reasonable limit. Ken