[twitter-dev] AM spam

2010-01-27 Thread Cameron Kaiser
The spam this morning appears to have come from an account that joined
prior to moderation. They have been banned from the group, as the account
did not have any other activity. There may be other sleepers that will
slowly be eliminated.

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[twitter-dev] Twitter Application Suspended

2010-01-27 Thread Proxdeveloper
Hello folks, This is the 3rd time I get my application suspended from
twitter, the 2 different names I've tried are :
Twhit,TwhitClient, and both have been suspended; Twhit has been
suspended for 2 times already, I deleted the app and then registered
it again.

My experience of developing with twitter has been awful, it's one
problem after another.

Could anyone help me on why I'm getting my app suspended.


Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Getting server 500 errors starting on 1/25/2010 using show api

2010-01-27 Thread Kevin Marshall
That's what I see as well.

- Kevin
http://wow.ly

On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 7:48 PM, Raffi Krikorian ra...@twitter.com wrote:
 i'm confused - what are people seeing?  i'm seeing a 404 on that status, not
 a 500.
 [ra...@tw-mbp13-raffi twitter (homing_pigeon)]$ curl -v
 http://twitter.com/statuses/show/15527375.xml
 * About to connect() to twitter.com port 80 (#0)
 *   Trying 168.143.162.68... connected
 * Connected to twitter.com (168.143.162.68) port 80 (#0)
 GET /statuses/show/15527375.xml HTTP/1.1
 User-Agent: curl/7.16.3 (powerpc-apple-darwin9.0) libcurl/7.16.3
 OpenSSL/0.9.7l zlib/1.2.3
 Host: twitter.com
 Accept: */*

  HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found
  Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 00:47:26 GMT
  Server: hi
  X-RateLimit-Limit: 2
  X-Transaction: 1264553246-49270-7281
  Status: 404 Not Found
  Last-Modified: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 00:47:26 GMT
  X-RateLimit-Remaining: 19765
  X-Runtime: 0.02460
  Content-Type: application/xml; charset=utf-8
  Pragma: no-cache
  Content-Length: 150
  X-RateLimit-Class: api_whitelisted
  Cache-Control: no-cache, no-store, must-revalidate, pre-check=0,
 post-check=0
  Expires: Tue, 31 Mar 1981 05:00:00 GMT
  X-Revision: DEV
  X-RateLimit-Reset: 1264555010
  Set-Cookie:
 _twitter_sess=BAh7CToOcmV0dXJuX3RvIjJodHRwOi8vdHdpdHRlci5jb20vc3RhdHVzZXMv%250Ac2hvdy8xNTUyNzM3NS54bWw6EXRyYW5zX3Byb21wdDA6B2lkIiVkYTI3NTQ0%250AODg1NWI1M2U2YmE0ZDk3ZjUzYTRkOTYyNSIKZmxhc2hJQzonQWN0aW9uQ29u%250AdHJvbGxlcjo6Rmxhc2g6OkZsYXNoSGFzaHsABjoKQHVzZWR7AA%253D%253D--c18561191b4733080388d38fa9461b6f851b16dc;
 domain=.twitter.com; path=/
  Vary: Accept-Encoding
  Connection: close
 
 ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
 hash
   request/statuses/show/15527375.xml/request
   errorNo status found with that ID./error
 /hash
 * Closing connection #0

 On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Jeffrey Greenberg
 jeffreygreenb...@gmail.com wrote:

 To be accurate: most  ids do work... We had no httpstatus 500 errors
 for quite a while, so this is new and different and bad behavior.
 We've had a working application that has been functioning for more
 than a year, and way back when these errors were frequent, and then
 Twitter did alot of new/good work and they've all but gone away (at
 least on this api)... until now.
 .


 On Jan 26, 12:39 pm, Kevin Marshall falico...@gmail.com wrote:
  Yes - seems to be a problem for any id other than the example one in
  the documentation:
 
  http://twitter.com/statuses/show/1472669360.xml(works)
 
  http://twitter.com/statuses/show/12735452.xml(reports no statuses,
  but this is my account and so I can confirm that there are statuses
  there to report -- ashttp://twitter.com/users/show.xml?id=12735452
  also confirms).
 
  BTW - if you use the user_timeline method, I think you can get the
  same status stuff
  (http://twitter.com/statuses/user_timeline.xml?id=12735452)
 
  - Kevin
 
  On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Jeffrey Greenberg
 
 
 
  jeffreygreenb...@gmail.com wrote:
   For instance:http://twitter.com/statuses/show/15527375.xml
 
   anyone else seeing these?



 --
 Raffi Krikorian
 Twitter Platform Team
 http://twitter.com/raffi



Re: [twitter-dev] Not able to read unicode from Twitter Response XML in C#.net

2010-01-27 Thread Rejeev Thomas
Thanks Ryan!

I am taking an XML response from *
http://twitter.com/statuses/friends_timeline.xml* and it happens when I post
a Tweet in my home language and trying to read it ,follwoing are some of the
Text.

*?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
statuses type=array
status
  created_atWed Jan 27 04:19:36 + 2010/created_at
  id8265961626/id

text#3335;#3368;#3405;#3364;#3405;#3375;#3349;#3405;#3349;#3390;#3376;#3393;#3359;#3398;
#3334;#3382;#3353;#3405;#3349;
#3370;#3376;#3391;#3351;#3363;#3391;#3349;#3405;#3349;#3363;#3374;#3398;#3368;#3405;#3368;#3405;
#3347;#3384;#3392;#3384;#3405;
#3372;#3391;#3383;#3370;#3405;#3370;#3405;:
#3374;#3398;#3378;#3405;#8205;#3372;#3363;#3405;#8205;:
#3347;#3384;#3405;#8204;#3359;#3405;#3376;#3399;#3378;#3391;#3375;#3375;#3391;#3378;#3405;#8205;
#3335;#3368;#3405;#3364;#3405;#3375;#3349;#3405;#3349;#3390;#3376;#3405;#8205;#3349;#3405;#3349;#3398;#3364;#3391;#3376;#3398;
#3368;#3359;#3349;#3405;#3349;#3393;#3368;#3405;#3368;
#3334;.../text*

The above are the junk characters responded , also made convert to UTF8 but
its not converting.

please help.

Thanks,
Rejeev.



On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 9:14 PM, ryan alford ryanalford...@gmail.comwrote:

 Can you paste an example of the bad characters as .Net shows them, and what
 they should really be?

 Ryan


 On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 5:36 AM, Rejeev rejeevtho...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,

 My Twitter response XML contains some unicode characters , I am not
 able to read that in C#.net. Its showing junk characters. Please help
 me to read that in proper text.

 Thanks,
 Rejeev





[twitter-dev] Suggestion: Return API responses in same set of formats

2010-01-27 Thread _ado
Some API calls return only XML, some both XML and JSON, some only
JSON, etc. Could it please be possible to return XML, JSON, Atom (and
RSS) and let user choose the format? Just like it's done with statuses/
user_timeline


[twitter-dev] Local trends api access

2010-01-27 Thread Karmadude
Is the access to local trends via api limited? I am getting the
following message when accessing http://api.twitter.com/1/trends/available.xml

errorSorry, you do not have access to this endpoint./error



[twitter-dev] Re: Can new twitter account be created from API?

2010-01-27 Thread DenisioDelBoro
Bulletin boards could implement whatever they want, but Twitter might
just make this function available only to registered app developers
and set a specific limit for creating new accounts for each of them
depending on purpose. So if I was to make an automatic weather
forecast translation to Twitter, for example, I would just make a
request for 1 000 new accounts (for each city) and then they decide
whether to allow it or not.

On 26 янв, 18:05, Dmitri Snytkine d.snytk...@gmail.com wrote:
 If they allow create accounts from API then this is what's going to
 happend:
 All leading online forum software will implement an option to create
 new twitter account for a new forum.
 So if you run an online forum like vbulletin, you can have 100 forums,
 thus 100 accounts on twitter.

 This means that every post make to just about every forum on the
 Internet will end up on twitter.
 This will add thousands, tens on thousands of updates per second to
 twitter. I don't know if they really want it.

 For the forum owner this may be great - more traffic to their forums,
 for end user also an extra way to follow
 his favorite forums.

 I am sure if Twitter allows account creation from API, all major forum
 and blog/CMS makers will jump right it.

 On Jan 26, 10:34 am, Zac Bowling zbowl...@gmail.com wrote:



  Strictly speaking, there is an API of sorts to create accounts, but limited
  to certain partners. Citysearch is using it IIRC. Although it would be great
  for mobile clients because there isn't a nice mobile web page to create an
  account so it takes a PC to get started for new users. Seen a note on it on
  those leaked twitter docs on techcrunch a while back, so the twitter guys
  have been thinking about it.

  On Jan 26, 2010 5:01 AM, John Meyer john.l.me...@gmail.com wrote:

  On 1/25/2010 8:55 PM, Johnny Honestly wrote:   Twitter is a messenger
  system. They want people to ...
  I'm not talking about an API registration, what I'm talking about is either
  a new URL or a modification of the current URL that allows the user to allow
  an app where if the person isn't a twitter user it will let them become one,
  then go back, register the app, and return.


[twitter-dev] Re: Mass account creation

2010-01-27 Thread DenisioDelBoro
I'm new to Twitter, so maybe I don't know something, but how do you
get annoyed by such feeds if you don't follow them?

On 26 янв, 21:59, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky zzn...@gmail.com wrote:
 Local news is considered spam if it is annoying. People often think they're
 being useful by feeding such stuff as police and fire RSS feeds into Twitter
 robotically, but in reality, the people who want to subscribe to those feeds
 have done so precisely because they didn't want to get spammed. The rest of
 us think it's annoying and hit the spam report button.

 Now *news* news - human language tweeted by real live humans - isn't spam.

 On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 8:15 AM, DenisioDelBoro alya...@gmail.com wrote:
  Since when local news are considered spam?

  On 7 янв, 15:16, Andrew Badera and...@badera.us wrote:
   I would point them to examples of other apps (local news spammers come
   to mind) that have recently been blacklisted.

 --
 M. Edward (Ed) Boraskyhttp://borasky-research.net

 I've always regarded nature as the clothing of God. ~Alan Hovhaness


[twitter-dev] Wrong follower list

2010-01-27 Thread Niklas Hellenbart
Hi folks,

I recognized that I get follower lists (http://twitter.com/followers/
ids.xml) for a certain user (twitter id: 61899438) that are not
correct. From time to time the id 80514185 appears in it (that's
wrong, 80514185 isn't following this user) and the ids 14420915,
19360476, 19675319, 21239364, 26772579 who are following are not in
the list. Every time I get a wrong list exactly the same ids are
missing/too much.

Cheers, Niklas (twunfollow.com)


Re: [twitter-dev] Twitter Application Suspended

2010-01-27 Thread Charles A. Lopez
you might be doing something perceived as offensive. In the past on projects
i have worked on, I had over utilized the processing resources of a remote
server.

Are you doing anything like that?

2010/1/26 Proxdeveloper prox.develo...@gmail.com

 Hello folks, This is the 3rd time I get my application suspended from
 twitter, the 2 different names I've tried are :
 Twhit,TwhitClient, and both have been suspended; Twhit has been
 suspended for 2 times already, I deleted the app and then registered
 it again.

 My experience of developing with twitter has been awful, it's one
 problem after another.

 Could anyone help me on why I'm getting my app suspended.




--


Re: [twitter-dev] Suggestion: Return API responses in same set of formats

2010-01-27 Thread Michael Ivey
Which calls only return XML? I haven't encountered anything where I couldn't
use JSON.

 -- ivey


On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 1:29 AM, _ado adri...@tijsseling.com wrote:

 Some API calls return only XML, some both XML and JSON, some only
 JSON, etc. Could it please be possible to return XML, JSON, Atom (and
 RSS) and let user choose the format? Just like it's done with statuses/
 user_timeline



Re: [twitter-dev] Suggestion: Return API responses in same set of formats

2010-01-27 Thread M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
Yeah, I was going to ask the same thing - I use JSON exclusively.

On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 6:01 AM, Michael Ivey michael.i...@gmail.comwrote:

 Which calls only return XML? I haven't encountered anything where I
 couldn't use JSON.

  -- ivey



 On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 1:29 AM, _ado adri...@tijsseling.com wrote:

 Some API calls return only XML, some both XML and JSON, some only
 JSON, etc. Could it please be possible to return XML, JSON, Atom (and
 RSS) and let user choose the format? Just like it's done with statuses/
 user_timeline





-- 
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http://borasky-research.net

I've always regarded nature as the clothing of God. ~Alan Hovhaness


[twitter-dev] Re: Possibility to link to the user page not by the name but by the id.

2010-01-27 Thread Ivan
Hi.

I don't need an application that is able to handle this. Instead i
need changes in the twitter API so i can refer to the users and their
statuses using the user id, not the username. This is a problem for
the aggregator, and there users (so it become also a problem for the
twitter users).

Is there any plan in this direction?

Ivan.


On 21 янв, 06:03, Abraham Williams 4bra...@gmail.com wrote:
 I remember this topic coming up before and it seems like someone built an
 application that handled this but I can't find any references to it. Maybe
 somebody else can?

 Abraham



 On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 06:29, Ivan gli.w...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi.

  I tried to find the similar question here (in google groups), in the
  FAQ and in the API, but couldn't find anything.

  The problem:
  Cross-posting the links to the user page and to some his statuses in
  the web become more and more popular. But, as i understood, you can't
  guarantee that this links not long after would not change the logical
  destination. For example I create some post about some twitter-user
  aaa and give the link twitter.com/aaa
  After that user “aaa” changed name to bbb and user ddd changed
  name to aaa. So my old link now points to the different person.

  This problem becomes more serious for the aggregators that don't know
  what content they might approve after a while.

  The simplest decision would be providing the possibility to link to
  the user not by name but also by id. That pages might be just
  redirections to the original user pages, it doesn't matter.

  For example
  if the user “aaa” have id 11, the following two links should point
  to the same page:
  twitter.com/aaa and twitter.com/id/11

  This mechanism should also be applied for the statuses:
  twitter.com/id/11/statuses/22

  Ivan.

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Re: [twitter-dev] Local trends api access

2010-01-27 Thread Raffi Krikorian
we're having a few bumps in the release of this API - it should be fixed
soon.

On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 12:27 AM, Karmadude karmad...@gmail.com wrote:

 Is the access to local trends via api limited? I am getting the
 following message when accessing
 http://api.twitter.com/1/trends/available.xml

 errorSorry, you do not have access to this endpoint./error




-- 
Raffi Krikorian
Twitter Platform Team
http://twitter.com/raffi


Re: [twitter-dev] Suggestion: Return API responses in same set of formats

2010-01-27 Thread Raffi Krikorian
what methods return XML exclusively?

when it comes to the REST API (not necessarily the search API), we should be
returning XML and JSON for all of them (IMHO, use JSON).  we do support RSS
and Atom for the timeline calls as those could be read from a browser or a
feed reader as well.

On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 11:29 PM, _ado adri...@tijsseling.com wrote:

 Some API calls return only XML, some both XML and JSON, some only
 JSON, etc. Could it please be possible to return XML, JSON, Atom (and
 RSS) and let user choose the format? Just like it's done with statuses/
 user_timeline




-- 
Raffi Krikorian
Twitter Platform Team
http://twitter.com/raffi


Re: [twitter-dev] Mass account creation

2010-01-27 Thread Dale Folla MeDia
the only possible reasons someone would have to create that many accounts
would be to spam in one form or another.  There should be other ways to skin
that cat..  You could not keep up with that many accounts unless you sent
out huge amounts of useless RSS feeeds just to gain followers so you can
mass dm them...

On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 5:16 AM, Andrew Badera and...@badera.us wrote:

 I would point them to examples of other apps (local news spammers come
 to mind) that have recently been blacklisted.

 That aside, I for one am 100% opposed to giving anyone this sort of
 tool. Not that certain other people on this list haven't already done
 so for profit, sadly.

 ∞ Andy Badera
 ∞ +1 518-641-1280 Google Voice
 ∞ This email is: [ ] bloggable [x] ask first [ ] private
 ∞ Google me: http://www.google.com/search?q=andrew%20badera



 On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 7:50 AM, Jonathan Markwell
 j.l.markw...@inuda.com wrote:
  Hi All,
 
  Would be interested to hear both the community's opinion on this and
  the official Twitter view.
 
  I have a client that wants to create thousands of new accounts that
  they can use to send out a wide variety of niche interest tweets. They
  already have a quote from an outsourcing company that can do the work
  and are keen to go ahead. The accounts will, for the most part, be
  automated but I'm encouraging them to ensure each gets at least some
  human participation in them on a regular basis.
 
  I'm apprehensive about this and I'm trying to disuade them from going
  ahead. I'm not convinced that accounts that are primarily automated,
  especially when set up on this scale can add that much value to the
  ecosystem. Their feeling is quite the opposite and they believe the
  audience they are working to provide for will find this extremely
  valuable. In addition they are confident, and have some data to back
  it up, that what they are creating will bring a huge number of new
  real users to Twitter.
 
  What are your thoughts on this?
 
  Jon.
 
  --
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  Engineer | Founder | Connector
 
  Inuda Innovations Ltd, Brighton, UK
 
  Web application development  support
  Twitter  Facebook integration specialists
  http://inuda.com
 
  Organising the world's first events for the Twitter developer Community
  http://TwitterDeveloperNest.com http://twitterdevelopernest.com/
 
  Providing a nice little place to work in the middle of Brighton -
  http://theskiff.org
 
  Measuring your brand's visibility on the social web -
 http://HowSociable.com http://howsociable.com/
 
  mob: 07766 021 485 | tel: 01273 704 549 | fax: 01273 376 953
  skype: jlmarkwell | twitter: http://twitter.com/jot
 




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Fol.la MeDia, LLC


[twitter-dev] Re: Mass account creation

2010-01-27 Thread DenisioDelBoro
First of all, there is only one form of spam - it's *unsolicited*
messages sent massively.
Second of all, tell me, please, in what way creating, let's say, 100
accounts just for tweeting weather forecasts for different cities is a
spam? I'm not talking about mentioning there random nicknames or
something like that to get new followers, of course. Just pure
forecast, without any links.
Third of all, why do you think those RSS feeds will be useless? Maybe
it's more convenient for some users to get updates with Twitter than
with Google Reader.

On 27 янв, 18:30, Dale Folla MeDia mogul...@gmail.com wrote:
 the only possible reasons someone would have to create that many accounts
 would be to spam in one form or another.  There should be other ways to skin
 that cat..  You could not keep up with that many accounts unless you sent
 out huge amounts of useless RSS feeeds just to gain followers so you can
 mass dm them...


 On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 5:16 AM, Andrew Badera and...@badera.us wrote:
  I would point them to examples of other apps (local news spammers come
  to mind) that have recently been blacklisted.

  That aside, I for one am 100% opposed to giving anyone this sort of
  tool. Not that certain other people on this list haven't already done
  so for profit, sadly.

  ∞ Andy Badera
  ∞ +1 518-641-1280 Google Voice
  ∞ This email is: [ ] bloggable [x] ask first [ ] private
  ∞ Google me:http://www.google.com/search?q=andrew%20badera

  On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 7:50 AM, Jonathan Markwell
  j.l.markw...@inuda.com wrote:
   Hi All,

   Would be interested to hear both the community's opinion on this and
   the official Twitter view.

   I have a client that wants to create thousands of new accounts that
   they can use to send out a wide variety of niche interest tweets. They
   already have a quote from an outsourcing company that can do the work
   and are keen to go ahead. The accounts will, for the most part, be
   automated but I'm encouraging them to ensure each gets at least some
   human participation in them on a regular basis.

   I'm apprehensive about this and I'm trying to disuade them from going
   ahead. I'm not convinced that accounts that are primarily automated,
   especially when set up on this scale can add that much value to the
   ecosystem. Their feeling is quite the opposite and they believe the
   audience they are working to provide for will find this extremely
   valuable. In addition they are confident, and have some data to back
   it up, that what they are creating will bring a huge number of new
   real users to Twitter.

   What are your thoughts on this?

   Jon.

   --
   Jonathan Markwell
   Engineer | Founder | Connector

   Inuda Innovations Ltd, Brighton, UK

   Web application development  support
   Twitter  Facebook integration specialists
  http://inuda.com

   Organising the world's first events for the Twitter developer Community
  http://TwitterDeveloperNest.comhttp://twitterdevelopernest.com/

   Providing a nice little place to work in the middle of Brighton -
  http://theskiff.org

   Measuring your brand's visibility on the social web -
 http://HowSociable.comhttp://howsociable.com/

   mob: 07766 021 485 | tel: 01273 704 549 | fax: 01273 376 953
   skype: jlmarkwell | twitter:http://twitter.com/jot

 --
 Dale Merritt
 Fol.la MeDia, LLC


[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter Application Suspended

2010-01-27 Thread Brian Sutorius
Please write to a...@twitter.com, which will open a ticket about this
issue. We can discuss your applications, why they have been suspended,
and the possibility of getting them re-enabled.

Thanks,
Brian

On Jan 26, 5:11 pm, Proxdeveloper prox.develo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello folks, This is the 3rd time I get my application suspended from
 twitter, the 2 different names I've tried are :
 Twhit,TwhitClient, and both have been suspended; Twhit has been
 suspended for 2 times already, I deleted the app and then registered
 it again.

 My experience of developing with twitter has been awful, it's one
 problem after another.

 Could anyone help me on why I'm getting my app suspended.


Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Mass account creation

2010-01-27 Thread Dale Folla MeDia
the specific example you give seems fine.  On the other hand when you start
to talk about a thousand(s), it starts to raise valid questions for anyone
who monitors this group.

On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 9:02 AM, DenisioDelBoro alya...@gmail.com wrote:

 First of all, there is only one form of spam - it's *unsolicited*
 messages sent massively.
 Second of all, tell me, please, in what way creating, let's say, 100
 accounts just for tweeting weather forecasts for different cities is a
 spam? I'm not talking about mentioning there random nicknames or
 something like that to get new followers, of course. Just pure
 forecast, without any links.
 Third of all, why do you think those RSS feeds will be useless? Maybe
 it's more convenient for some users to get updates with Twitter than
 with Google Reader.

 On 27 янв, 18:30, Dale Folla MeDia mogul...@gmail.com wrote:
  the only possible reasons someone would have to create that many accounts
  would be to spam in one form or another.  There should be other ways to
 skin
  that cat..  You could not keep up with that many accounts unless you sent
  out huge amounts of useless RSS feeeds just to gain followers so you can
  mass dm them...
 
 
  On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 5:16 AM, Andrew Badera and...@badera.us wrote:
   I would point them to examples of other apps (local news spammers come
   to mind) that have recently been blacklisted.
 
   That aside, I for one am 100% opposed to giving anyone this sort of
   tool. Not that certain other people on this list haven't already done
   so for profit, sadly.
 
   ∞ Andy Badera
   ∞ +1 518-641-1280 Google Voice
   ∞ This email is: [ ] bloggable [x] ask first [ ] private
   ∞ Google me:http://www.google.com/search?q=andrew%20badera
 
   On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 7:50 AM, Jonathan Markwell
j.l.markw...@inuda.com wrote:
Hi All,
 
Would be interested to hear both the community's opinion on this and
the official Twitter view.
 
I have a client that wants to create thousands of new accounts that
they can use to send out a wide variety of niche interest tweets.
 They
already have a quote from an outsourcing company that can do the work
and are keen to go ahead. The accounts will, for the most part, be
automated but I'm encouraging them to ensure each gets at least some
human participation in them on a regular basis.
 
I'm apprehensive about this and I'm trying to disuade them from going
ahead. I'm not convinced that accounts that are primarily automated,
especially when set up on this scale can add that much value to the
ecosystem. Their feeling is quite the opposite and they believe the
audience they are working to provide for will find this extremely
valuable. In addition they are confident, and have some data to back
it up, that what they are creating will bring a huge number of new
real users to Twitter.
 
What are your thoughts on this?
 
Jon.
 
--
Jonathan Markwell
Engineer | Founder | Connector
 
Inuda Innovations Ltd, Brighton, UK
 
Web application development  support
Twitter  Facebook integration specialists
   http://inuda.com
 
Organising the world's first events for the Twitter developer
 Community
   http://TwitterDeveloperNest.com http://twitterdevelopernest.com/
 http://twitterdevelopernest.com/
 
Providing a nice little place to work in the middle of Brighton -
   http://theskiff.org
 
Measuring your brand's visibility on the social web -
  http://HowSociable.com http://howsociable.com/
 http://howsociable.com/
  
mob: 07766 021 485 | tel: 01273 704 549 | fax: 01273 376 953
skype: jlmarkwell | twitter:http://twitter.com/jot
 
  --
  Dale Merritt
  Fol.la MeDia, LLC




-- 
Dale Merritt
Fol.la MeDia, LLC


Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Mass account creation

2010-01-27 Thread M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 9:02 AM, DenisioDelBoro alya...@gmail.com wrote:

 First of all, there is only one form of spam - it's *unsolicited*
 messages sent massively.
 Second of all, tell me, please, in what way creating, let's say, 100
 accounts just for tweeting weather forecasts for different cities is a
 spam? I'm not talking about mentioning there random nicknames or
 something like that to get new followers, of course. Just pure
 forecast, without any links.
 Third of all, why do you think those RSS feeds will be useless? Maybe
 it's more convenient for some users to get updates with Twitter than
 with Google Reader.


I don't see how  creating, let's say, 100 accounts just for tweeting
weather forecasts for different cities fits in with the Twitter spirit,
which is humans talking to other humans over the messaging system. For
example, here in Portland, we have a hashtag, #pdxtst (PDX Twitter Storm
Team) where we talk about the sometimes unusual weather in this normally
boring rainy place. It's people talking about the weather.

We had an unexpected snowstorm a few weeks back, and Mayor Sam Adams got on
Twitter and gave traffic and Tri-Met updates. I doubt very seriously if the
folks in the #pdxtst chat would have appreciated some bot spewing the
National Weather Service warnings or the stuff coming from the TV weather
crews. Those crews were, in fact, on Twitter conversing with people!
Fortunately, this all happened before the texting while driving ban went
into effect.

Maybe what you propose is simply annoying and not spam, but don't be too
terribly surprised if you build it and see people blocking you, rather than
simply not following. I unfollow bots often and block when something gets
annoying enough. But Twitter isn't intended to be an aggregator!


 On 27 янв, 18:30, Dale Folla MeDia mogul...@gmail.com wrote:
  the only possible reasons someone would have to create that many accounts
  would be to spam in one form or another.  There should be other ways to
 skin
  that cat..  You could not keep up with that many accounts unless you sent
  out huge amounts of useless RSS feeeds just to gain followers so you can
  mass dm them...
 
 
  On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 5:16 AM, Andrew Badera and...@badera.us wrote:
   I would point them to examples of other apps (local news spammers come
   to mind) that have recently been blacklisted.
 
   That aside, I for one am 100% opposed to giving anyone this sort of
   tool. Not that certain other people on this list haven't already done
   so for profit, sadly.
 
   ∞ Andy Badera
   ∞ +1 518-641-1280 Google Voice
   ∞ This email is: [ ] bloggable [x] ask first [ ] private
   ∞ Google me:http://www.google.com/search?q=andrew%20badera
 
   On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 7:50 AM, Jonathan Markwell
   j.l.markw...@inuda.com wrote:
Hi All,
 
Would be interested to hear both the community's opinion on this and
the official Twitter view.
 
I have a client that wants to create thousands of new accounts that
they can use to send out a wide variety of niche interest tweets.
 They
already have a quote from an outsourcing company that can do the work
and are keen to go ahead. The accounts will, for the most part, be
automated but I'm encouraging them to ensure each gets at least some
human participation in them on a regular basis.
 
I'm apprehensive about this and I'm trying to disuade them from going
ahead. I'm not convinced that accounts that are primarily automated,
especially when set up on this scale can add that much value to the
ecosystem. Their feeling is quite the opposite and they believe the
audience they are working to provide for will find this extremely
valuable. In addition they are confident, and have some data to back
it up, that what they are creating will bring a huge number of new
real users to Twitter.
 
What are your thoughts on this?
 
Jon.
 
--
Jonathan Markwell
Engineer | Founder | Connector
 
Inuda Innovations Ltd, Brighton, UK
 
Web application development  support
Twitter  Facebook integration specialists
   http://inuda.com
 
Organising the world's first events for the Twitter developer
 Community
   http://TwitterDeveloperNest.comhttp://twitterdevelopernest.com/
 
Providing a nice little place to work in the middle of Brighton -
   http://theskiff.org
 
Measuring your brand's visibility on the social web -
  http://HowSociable.comhttp://howsociable.com/
 
mob: 07766 021 485 | tel: 01273 704 549 | fax: 01273 376 953
skype: jlmarkwell | twitter:http://twitter.com/jot
 
  --
  Dale Merritt
  Fol.la MeDia, LLC




-- 
M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
http://borasky-research.net

I've always regarded nature as the clothing of God. ~Alan Hovhaness


RE: [twitter-dev] Re: Mass account creation

2010-01-27 Thread Dean Collins
From: twitter-development-talk@googlegroups.com
[mailto:twitter-development-t...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M.
Edward (Ed) Borasky
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 12:38 PM
To: twitter-development-talk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Mass account creation

 

 But Twitter isn't intended to be an aggregator! 

 

 

 

Says you Ed, at the end of the day Twitter is whatever it's users intend
it to be. If one of my friend buys those stupid scales that posts to
twitter their weight everyday, I have the choice to follow or block.

 

If you don't want the national automated weather service - simple don't
follow.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Cheers,

Dean

 



Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Mass account creation

2010-01-27 Thread John Meyer

On 1/27/2010 10:02 AM, DenisioDelBoro wrote:

First of all, there is only one form of spam - it's *unsolicited*
messages sent massively.
Second of all, tell me, please, in what way creating, let's say, 100
accounts just for tweeting weather forecasts for different cities is a
spam? I'm not talking about mentioning there random nicknames or
something like that to get new followers, of course. Just pure
forecast, without any links.
Third of all, why do you think those RSS feeds will be useless? Maybe
it's more convenient for some users to get updates with Twitter than
with Google Reader.



1.  Pure forecasts could be handled by one account sending out multiple 
forecasts coded for a particular area though hashtags. You would 
probably have to whitelist your ip, but then again you would have to do 
the same if you were mass creating accounts just for each to forecast 
one city or area
2.  An invited e-mail can quickly turn into an uninvited e-mail, and 
that goes the same for spam.  And you are ignoring the strain that those 
accounts place on the Twitter servers themselves.
3.  RSS feeds are not useless, but there is a time and a place.  You 
sound to me like a guy who only has a hammer in his toolbox and is 
looking for a nail.  Rather than trying to cram everything into Twitter 
you should be looking for the proper way to integrate it into your services.


Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Mass account creation

2010-01-27 Thread Dale Folla MeDia
just a correction about something I wrote.  I don't think RSS themselves are
useless in context with integrating them with some valid purpose.


On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 10:11 AM, John Meyer john.l.me...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 1/27/2010 10:02 AM, DenisioDelBoro wrote:

 First of all, there is only one form of spam - it's *unsolicited*
 messages sent massively.
 Second of all, tell me, please, in what way creating, let's say, 100
 accounts just for tweeting weather forecasts for different cities is a
 spam? I'm not talking about mentioning there random nicknames or
 something like that to get new followers, of course. Just pure
 forecast, without any links.
 Third of all, why do you think those RSS feeds will be useless? Maybe
 it's more convenient for some users to get updates with Twitter than
 with Google Reader.



 1.  Pure forecasts could be handled by one account sending out multiple
 forecasts coded for a particular area though hashtags. You would probably
 have to whitelist your ip, but then again you would have to do the same if
 you were mass creating accounts just for each to forecast one city or area
 2.  An invited e-mail can quickly turn into an uninvited e-mail, and that
 goes the same for spam.  And you are ignoring the strain that those accounts
 place on the Twitter servers themselves.
 3.  RSS feeds are not useless, but there is a time and a place.  You sound
 to me like a guy who only has a hammer in his toolbox and is looking for a
 nail.  Rather than trying to cram everything into Twitter you should be
 looking for the proper way to integrate it into your services.




-- 
Dale Merritt
Fol.la MeDia, LLC


[twitter-dev] Deleting account, then recreating it

2010-01-27 Thread Bardia Afshin
Hi,

I've deleted my twitter account eg) UserNameHere, and now that I want
to create the same account name to eg) UserNameHere I get the
following error:

username has already been taken


What is the fix for this?

Thank you,
Bardia Afshin
http://www.google.com/search?q=bardia+afshinie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8


Re: [twitter-dev] Deleting account, then recreating it

2010-01-27 Thread BJ Weschke

You wait.

http://mashable.com/2010/01/19/twitter-username-land-grab/ 
http://mashable.com/2010/01/19/twitter-username-land-grab/


Bardia Afshin wrote:

Hi,

I've deleted my twitter account eg) UserNameHere, and now that I want
to create the same account name to eg) UserNameHere I get the
following error:

username has already been taken


What is the fix for this?

Thank you,
Bardia Afshin
http://www.google.com/search?q=bardia+afshinie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8
  




[twitter-dev] Re: Getting server 500 errors starting on 1/25/2010 using show api

2010-01-27 Thread Jeffrey Greenberg
hmmm... i'm not seeing 500 errors anymore... either

transient problem?

j

On Jan 26, 5:18 pm, Kevin Marshall falico...@gmail.com wrote:
 That's what I see as well.

 - Kevinhttp://wow.ly



 On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 7:48 PM, Raffi Krikorian ra...@twitter.com wrote:
  i'm confused - what are people seeing?  i'm seeing a 404 on that status, not
  a 500.
  [ra...@tw-mbp13-raffi twitter (homing_pigeon)]$ curl -v
 http://twitter.com/statuses/show/15527375.xml
  * About to connect() to twitter.com port 80 (#0)
  *   Trying 168.143.162.68... connected
  * Connected to twitter.com (168.143.162.68) port 80 (#0)
  GET /statuses/show/15527375.xml HTTP/1.1
  User-Agent: curl/7.16.3 (powerpc-apple-darwin9.0) libcurl/7.16.3
  OpenSSL/0.9.7l zlib/1.2.3
  Host: twitter.com
  Accept: */*

   HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found
   Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 00:47:26 GMT
   Server: hi
   X-RateLimit-Limit: 2
   X-Transaction: 1264553246-49270-7281
   Status: 404 Not Found
   Last-Modified: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 00:47:26 GMT
   X-RateLimit-Remaining: 19765
   X-Runtime: 0.02460
   Content-Type: application/xml; charset=utf-8
   Pragma: no-cache
   Content-Length: 150
   X-RateLimit-Class: api_whitelisted
   Cache-Control: no-cache, no-store, must-revalidate, pre-check=0,
  post-check=0
   Expires: Tue, 31 Mar 1981 05:00:00 GMT
   X-Revision: DEV
   X-RateLimit-Reset: 1264555010
   Set-Cookie:
  _twitter_sess=BAh7CToOcmV0dXJuX3RvIjJodHRwOi8vdHdpdHRlci5jb20vc3RhdHVzZXMv% 
  250Ac2hvdy8xNTUyNzM3NS54bWw6EXRyYW5zX3Byb21wdDA6B2lkIiVkYTI3NTQ0%250AODg1NW 
  I1M2U2YmE0ZDk3ZjUzYTRkOTYyNSIKZmxhc2hJQzonQWN0aW9uQ29u%250AdHJvbGxlcjo6Rmxh 
  c2g6OkZsYXNoSGFzaHsABjoKQHVzZWR7AA%253D%253D--c18561191b4733080388d38fa9461 
  b6f851b16dc;
  domain=.twitter.com; path=/
   Vary: Accept-Encoding
   Connection: close
  
  ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
  hash
    request/statuses/show/15527375.xml/request
    errorNo status found with that ID./error
  /hash
  * Closing connection #0

  On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Jeffrey Greenberg
  jeffreygreenb...@gmail.com wrote:

  To be accurate: most  ids do work... We had no httpstatus 500 errors
  for quite a while, so this is new and different and bad behavior.
  We've had a working application that has been functioning for more
  than a year, and way back when these errors were frequent, and then
  Twitter did alot of new/good work and they've all but gone away (at
  least on this api)... until now.
  .

  On Jan 26, 12:39 pm, Kevin Marshall falico...@gmail.com wrote:
   Yes - seems to be a problem for any id other than the example one in
   the documentation:

  http://twitter.com/statuses/show/1472669360.xml(works)

  http://twitter.com/statuses/show/12735452.xml(reportsno statuses,
   but this is my account and so I can confirm that there are statuses
   there to report -- ashttp://twitter.com/users/show.xml?id=12735452
   also confirms).

   BTW - if you use the user_timeline method, I think you can get the
   same status stuff
   (http://twitter.com/statuses/user_timeline.xml?id=12735452)

   - Kevin

   On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Jeffrey Greenberg

   jeffreygreenb...@gmail.com wrote:
For instance:http://twitter.com/statuses/show/15527375.xml

anyone else seeing these?

  --
  Raffi Krikorian
  Twitter Platform Team
 http://twitter.com/raffi


[twitter-dev] Re: Mass account creation

2010-01-27 Thread DenisioDelBoro
Well there are thousands of cities, ya know :)

But don't worry, weather forecasts is just a good example of what non-
abusive things you could do with such API function.

On 27 янв, 19:29, Dale Folla MeDia mogul...@gmail.com wrote:
 the specific example you give seems fine.  On the other hand when you start
 to talk about a thousand(s), it starts to raise valid questions for anyone
 who monitors this group.



 On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 9:02 AM, DenisioDelBoro alya...@gmail.com wrote:
  First of all, there is only one form of spam - it's *unsolicited*
  messages sent massively.
  Second of all, tell me, please, in what way creating, let's say, 100
  accounts just for tweeting weather forecasts for different cities is a
  spam? I'm not talking about mentioning there random nicknames or
  something like that to get new followers, of course. Just pure
  forecast, without any links.
  Third of all, why do you think those RSS feeds will be useless? Maybe
  it's more convenient for some users to get updates with Twitter than
  with Google Reader.

  On 27 янв, 18:30, Dale Folla MeDia mogul...@gmail.com wrote:
   the only possible reasons someone would have to create that many accounts
   would be to spam in one form or another.  There should be other ways to
  skin
   that cat..  You could not keep up with that many accounts unless you sent
   out huge amounts of useless RSS feeeds just to gain followers so you can
   mass dm them...

   On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 5:16 AM, Andrew Badera and...@badera.us wrote:
I would point them to examples of other apps (local news spammers come
to mind) that have recently been blacklisted.

That aside, I for one am 100% opposed to giving anyone this sort of
tool. Not that certain other people on this list haven't already done
so for profit, sadly.

∞ Andy Badera
∞ +1 518-641-1280 Google Voice
∞ This email is: [ ] bloggable [x] ask first [ ] private
∞ Google me:http://www.google.com/search?q=andrew%20badera

On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 7:50 AM, Jonathan Markwell
     j.l.markw...@inuda.com wrote:
 Hi All,

 Would be interested to hear both the community's opinion on this and
 the official Twitter view.

 I have a client that wants to create thousands of new accounts that
 they can use to send out a wide variety of niche interest tweets.
  They
 already have a quote from an outsourcing company that can do the work
 and are keen to go ahead. The accounts will, for the most part, be
 automated but I'm encouraging them to ensure each gets at least some
 human participation in them on a regular basis.

 I'm apprehensive about this and I'm trying to disuade them from going
 ahead. I'm not convinced that accounts that are primarily automated,
 especially when set up on this scale can add that much value to the
 ecosystem. Their feeling is quite the opposite and they believe the
 audience they are working to provide for will find this extremely
 valuable. In addition they are confident, and have some data to back
 it up, that what they are creating will bring a huge number of new
 real users to Twitter.

 What are your thoughts on this?

 Jon.

 --
 Jonathan Markwell
 Engineer | Founder | Connector

 Inuda Innovations Ltd, Brighton, UK

 Web application development  support
 Twitter  Facebook integration specialists
http://inuda.com

 Organising the world's first events for the Twitter developer
  Community
http://TwitterDeveloperNest.comhttp://twitterdevelopernest.com/
 http://twitterdevelopernest.com/

 Providing a nice little place to work in the middle of Brighton -
http://theskiff.org

 Measuring your brand's visibility on the social web -
   http://HowSociable.comhttp://howsociable.com/
 http://howsociable.com/

 mob: 07766 021 485 | tel: 01273 704 549 | fax: 01273 376 953
 skype: jlmarkwell | twitter:http://twitter.com/jot

   --
   Dale Merritt
   Fol.la MeDia, LLC

 --
 Dale Merritt
 Fol.la MeDia, LLC


[twitter-dev] Re: Mass account creation

2010-01-27 Thread DenisioDelBoro
Hashtags are definitely not a solution, since you can't search in a
particular blog and you can't follow them. I even think they're
rather useless at all, in their current form. And I honestly would
like to have a more elegant way for executing my idea, but there isn't
one. The simplicity of Twitter is mostly a very good thing, but not
always. Now its functionality is evolving slower that the Twitter
itself.


On 27 jan, 20:11, John Meyer john.l.me...@gmail.com wrote:


 1.  Pure forecasts could be handled by one account sending out multiple
 forecasts coded for a particular area though hashtags. You would
 probably have to whitelist your ip, but then again you would have to do
 the same if you were mass creating accounts just for each to forecast
 one city or area
 2.  An invited e-mail can quickly turn into an uninvited e-mail, and
 that goes the same for spam.  And you are ignoring the strain that those
 accounts place on the Twitter servers themselves.
 3.  RSS feeds are not useless, but there is a time and a place.  You
 sound to me like a guy who only has a hammer in his toolbox and is
 looking for a nail.  Rather than trying to cram everything into Twitter
 you should be looking for the proper way to integrate it into your services.


RE: [twitter-dev] Re: Mass account creation

2010-01-27 Thread Ken Dobruskin

+1, Ed. Nice post. The humans will win!

Whether every RSS feed, weather station, search query, refrigerator, etc is 
allowed to be turned into a twitter bot is a policy decision for Twitter. I 
like to think that Twitter would prefer to be an original source of unique and 
meaningful content and not just a dump for low grade data.

 First of all, there is only one form of spam - it's *unsolicited* messages 
 sent massively.

When I am followed by a bot, or even a human who has no actual interest in my 
tweets but is only trying for a follow back, I regard it as an unsolicited 
message. 
This happens way too much and as a victim, I don't care if it's been done 
massively. Spam is spam and fake following - on whatever scale - not only 
uses resources but complicates analysis of the social network. Twitter has 
allowed the follow mechanism to be repurposed as a simple attention grabbing 
measure, but they tell us that the rules will evolve. It is also within their 
power to keep the bot armies at bay.

Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 09:37:43 -0800
Subject: Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Mass account creation
From: zzn...@gmail.com
To: twitter-development-talk@googlegroups.com



On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 9:02 AM, DenisioDelBoro alya...@gmail.com wrote:

First of all, there is only one form of spam - it's *unsolicited*

messages sent massively.

Second of all, tell me, please, in what way creating, let's say, 100

accounts just for tweeting weather forecasts for different cities is a

spam? I'm not talking about mentioning there random nicknames or

something like that to get new followers, of course. Just pure

forecast, without any links.

Third of all, why do you think those RSS feeds will be useless? Maybe

it's more convenient for some users to get updates with Twitter than

with Google Reader.

I don't see how  creating, let's say, 100 accounts just for tweeting weather 
forecasts for different cities fits in with the Twitter spirit, which is 
humans talking to other humans over the messaging system. For example, here in 
Portland, we have a hashtag, #pdxtst (PDX Twitter Storm Team) where we talk 
about the sometimes unusual weather in this normally boring rainy place. It's 
people talking about the weather. 


We had an unexpected snowstorm a few weeks back, and Mayor Sam Adams got on 
Twitter and gave traffic and Tri-Met updates. I doubt very seriously if the 
folks in the #pdxtst chat would have appreciated some bot spewing the National 
Weather Service warnings or the stuff coming from the TV weather crews. Those 
crews were, in fact, on Twitter conversing with people! Fortunately, this all 
happened before the texting while driving ban went into effect.


Maybe what you propose is simply annoying and not spam, but don't be too 
terribly surprised if you build it and see people blocking you, rather than 
simply not following. I unfollow bots often and block when something gets 
annoying enough. But Twitter isn't intended to be an aggregator! 




On 27 янв, 18:30, Dale Folla MeDia mogul...@gmail.com wrote:

 the only possible reasons someone would have to create that many accounts

 would be to spam in one form or another.  There should be other ways to skin

 that cat..  You could not keep up with that many accounts unless you sent

 out huge amounts of useless RSS feeeds just to gain followers so you can

 mass dm them...





 On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 5:16 AM, Andrew Badera and...@badera.us wrote:

  I would point them to examples of other apps (local news spammers come

  to mind) that have recently been blacklisted.



  That aside, I for one am 100% opposed to giving anyone this sort of

  tool. Not that certain other people on this list haven't already done

  so for profit, sadly.



  ∞ Andy Badera

  ∞ +1 518-641-1280 Google Voice

  ∞ This email is: [ ] bloggable [x] ask first [ ] private

  ∞ Google me:http://www.google.com/search?q=andrew%20badera



  On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 7:50 AM, Jonathan Markwell

  j.l.markw...@inuda.com wrote:

   Hi All,



   Would be interested to hear both the community's opinion on this and

   the official Twitter view.



   I have a client that wants to create thousands of new accounts that

   they can use to send out a wide variety of niche interest tweets. They

   already have a quote from an outsourcing company that can do the work

   and are keen to go ahead. The accounts will, for the most part, be

   automated but I'm encouraging them to ensure each gets at least some

   human participation in them on a regular basis.



   I'm apprehensive about this and I'm trying to disuade them from going

   ahead. I'm not convinced that accounts that are primarily automated,

   especially when set up on this scale can add that much value to the

   ecosystem. Their feeling is quite the opposite and they believe the

   audience they are working to provide for will find this extremely

   valuable. In addition they are confident, and have some data to back

   it up, that 

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Getting server 500 errors starting on 1/25/2010 using show api

2010-01-27 Thread Alcides Conceição dos Santos
Information ok
thak you
Alcides Conceiçao dos Santos
Country : Brazil

2010/1/27 Jeffrey Greenberg jeffreygreenb...@gmail.com:
 hmmm... i'm not seeing 500 errors anymore... either

 transient problem?

 j

 On Jan 26, 5:18 pm, Kevin Marshall falico...@gmail.com wrote:
 That's what I see as well.

 - Kevinhttp://wow.ly



 On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 7:48 PM, Raffi Krikorian ra...@twitter.com wrote:
  i'm confused - what are people seeing?  i'm seeing a 404 on that status, 
  not
  a 500.
  [ra...@tw-mbp13-raffi twitter (homing_pigeon)]$ curl -v
 http://twitter.com/statuses/show/15527375.xml
  * About to connect() to twitter.com port 80 (#0)
  *   Trying 168.143.162.68... connected
  * Connected to twitter.com (168.143.162.68) port 80 (#0)
  GET /statuses/show/15527375.xml HTTP/1.1
  User-Agent: curl/7.16.3 (powerpc-apple-darwin9.0) libcurl/7.16.3
  OpenSSL/0.9.7l zlib/1.2.3
  Host: twitter.com
  Accept: */*

   HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found
   Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 00:47:26 GMT
   Server: hi
   X-RateLimit-Limit: 2
   X-Transaction: 1264553246-49270-7281
   Status: 404 Not Found
   Last-Modified: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 00:47:26 GMT
   X-RateLimit-Remaining: 19765
   X-Runtime: 0.02460
   Content-Type: application/xml; charset=utf-8
   Pragma: no-cache
   Content-Length: 150
   X-RateLimit-Class: api_whitelisted
   Cache-Control: no-cache, no-store, must-revalidate, pre-check=0,
  post-check=0
   Expires: Tue, 31 Mar 1981 05:00:00 GMT
   X-Revision: DEV
   X-RateLimit-Reset: 1264555010
   Set-Cookie:
  _twitter_sess=BAh7CToOcmV0dXJuX3RvIjJodHRwOi8vdHdpdHRlci5jb20vc3RhdHVzZXMv%
   
  250Ac2hvdy8xNTUyNzM3NS54bWw6EXRyYW5zX3Byb21wdDA6B2lkIiVkYTI3NTQ0%250AODg1NW
   
  I1M2U2YmE0ZDk3ZjUzYTRkOTYyNSIKZmxhc2hJQzonQWN0aW9uQ29u%250AdHJvbGxlcjo6Rmxh
   
  c2g6OkZsYXNoSGFzaHsABjoKQHVzZWR7AA%253D%253D--c18561191b4733080388d38fa9461
   b6f851b16dc;
  domain=.twitter.com; path=/
   Vary: Accept-Encoding
   Connection: close
  
  ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
  hash
    request/statuses/show/15527375.xml/request
    errorNo status found with that ID./error
  /hash
  * Closing connection #0

  On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Jeffrey Greenberg
  jeffreygreenb...@gmail.com wrote:

  To be accurate: most  ids do work... We had no httpstatus 500 errors
  for quite a while, so this is new and different and bad behavior.
  We've had a working application that has been functioning for more
  than a year, and way back when these errors were frequent, and then
  Twitter did alot of new/good work and they've all but gone away (at
  least on this api)... until now.
  .

  On Jan 26, 12:39 pm, Kevin Marshall falico...@gmail.com wrote:
   Yes - seems to be a problem for any id other than the example one in
   the documentation:

  http://twitter.com/statuses/show/1472669360.xml(works)

  http://twitter.com/statuses/show/12735452.xml(reportsno statuses,
   but this is my account and so I can confirm that there are statuses
   there to report -- ashttp://twitter.com/users/show.xml?id=12735452
   also confirms).

   BTW - if you use the user_timeline method, I think you can get the
   same status stuff
   (http://twitter.com/statuses/user_timeline.xml?id=12735452)

   - Kevin

   On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Jeffrey Greenberg

   jeffreygreenb...@gmail.com wrote:
For instance:http://twitter.com/statuses/show/15527375.xml

anyone else seeing these?

  --
  Raffi Krikorian
  Twitter Platform Team
 http://twitter.com/raffi




-- 
Alcides conceição dos Santos


Re: [twitter-dev] Not able to read unicode from Twitter Response XML in C#.net

2010-01-27 Thread Rejeev Thomas
Please help friends!

Thanks Ryan!

 I am taking an XML response from *
 http://twitter.com/statuses/friends_timeline.xml* and it happens when I
 post a Tweet in my home language and trying to read it ,follwoing are some
 of the Text.

 *?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
 statuses type=array
 status
   created_atWed Jan 27 04:19:36 + 2010/created_at
   id8265961626/id

 text#3335;#3368;#3405;#3364;#3405;#3375;#3349;#3405;#3349;#3390;#3376;#3393;#3359;#3398;
 #3334;#3382;#3353;#3405;#3349;
 #3370;#3376;#3391;#3351;#3363;#3391;#3349;#3405;#3349;#3363;#3374;#3398;#3368;#3405;#3368;#3405;
 #3347;#3384;#3392;#3384;#3405;
 #3372;#3391;#3383;#3370;#3405;#3370;#3405;:
 #3374;#3398;#3378;#3405;#8205;#3372;#3363;#3405;#8205;:
 #3347;#3384;#3405;#8204;#3359;#3405;#3376;#3399;#3378;#3391;#3375;#3375;#3391;#3378;#3405;#8205;
 #3335;#3368;#3405;#3364;#3405;#3375;#3349;#3405;#3349;#3390;#3376;#3405;#8205;#3349;#3405;#3349;#3398;#3364;#3391;#3376;#3398;
 #3368;#3359;#3349;#3405;#3349;#3393;#3368;#3405;#3368;
 #3334;.../text*

 The above are the junk characters responded , also made convert to UTF8 but
 its not converting.

 please help.

 Thanks,
 Rejeev.




 On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 9:14 PM, ryan alford ryanalford...@gmail.comwrote:

 Can you paste an example of the bad characters as .Net shows them, and
 what they should really be?

 Ryan


 On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 5:36 AM, Rejeev rejeevtho...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,

 My Twitter response XML contains some unicode characters , I am not
 able to read that in C#.net. Its showing junk characters. Please help
 me to read that in proper text.

 Thanks,
 Rejeev






[twitter-dev] local trends ability to exclude hashtags?

2010-01-27 Thread tofubeer
Hi,

For the trends/current API we can add ?exclued=hashtags.  It does not
look like there is any way to do that with the new trends/location
API.  Are there plans to add it, or is it there and I am missing how
to do it?

(http://api.twitter.com/1/trends/1.xml?excludes=hashtags returns the
same as http://api.twitter.com/1/trends/1.xml which I would expect
given the API documentation.)

Thanks,

..darcy

D'Arcy Smith
CTO TerraTap Technologies Inc.


Re: [twitter-dev] Not able to read unicode from Twitter Response XML in C#.net

2010-01-27 Thread Zac Bowling
Entity codes.

Just decode them...

using System.Web;
...
string decoded_stuff = HttpUtility.HtmlDecode(encoded_stuff);


There is a way to do this with System.Xml but whatever.

Zac Bowling


On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 9:10 PM, Rejeev Thomas rejeevtho...@gmail.comwrote:

 Please help friends!


 Thanks Ryan!

 I am taking an XML response from *
 http://twitter.com/statuses/friends_timeline.xml* and it happens when I
 post a Tweet in my home language and trying to read it ,follwoing are some
 of the Text.

 *?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
 statuses type=array
 status
   created_atWed Jan 27 04:19:36 + 2010/created_at
   id8265961626/id

 text#3335;#3368;#3405;#3364;#3405;#3375;#3349;#3405;#3349;#3390;#3376;#3393;#3359;#3398;
 #3334;#3382;#3353;#3405;#3349;
 #3370;#3376;#3391;#3351;#3363;#3391;#3349;#3405;#3349;#3363;#3374;#3398;#3368;#3405;#3368;#3405;
 #3347;#3384;#3392;#3384;#3405;
 #3372;#3391;#3383;#3370;#3405;#3370;#3405;:
 #3374;#3398;#3378;#3405;#8205;#3372;#3363;#3405;#8205;:
 #3347;#3384;#3405;#8204;#3359;#3405;#3376;#3399;#3378;#3391;#3375;#3375;#3391;#3378;#3405;#8205;
 #3335;#3368;#3405;#3364;#3405;#3375;#3349;#3405;#3349;#3390;#3376;#3405;#8205;#3349;#3405;#3349;#3398;#3364;#3391;#3376;#3398;
 #3368;#3359;#3349;#3405;#3349;#3393;#3368;#3405;#3368;
 #3334;.../text*

 The above are the junk characters responded , also made convert to UTF8
 but its not converting.

 please help.

 Thanks,
 Rejeev.




 On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 9:14 PM, ryan alford ryanalford...@gmail.comwrote:

 Can you paste an example of the bad characters as .Net shows them, and
 what they should really be?

 Ryan


 On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 5:36 AM, Rejeev rejeevtho...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,

 My Twitter response XML contains some unicode characters , I am not
 able to read that in C#.net. Its showing junk characters. Please help
 me to read that in proper text.

 Thanks,
 Rejeev







Re: [twitter-dev] Not able to read unicode from Twitter Response XML in C#.net

2010-01-27 Thread Zac Bowling
Also:
http://weblogs.sqlteam.com/mladenp/archive/2008/10/21/Different-ways-how-to-escape-an-XML-string-in-C.aspx
Zac Bowling


On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 9:28 PM, Zac Bowling zbowl...@gmail.com wrote:

 Entity codes.

 Just decode them...

 using System.Web;
 ...
 string decoded_stuff = HttpUtility.HtmlDecode(encoded_stuff);


 There is a way to do this with System.Xml but whatever.

 Zac Bowling



 On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 9:10 PM, Rejeev Thomas rejeevtho...@gmail.comwrote:

 Please help friends!


 Thanks Ryan!

 I am taking an XML response from *
 http://twitter.com/statuses/friends_timeline.xml* and it happens when I
 post a Tweet in my home language and trying to read it ,follwoing are some
 of the Text.

 *?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
 statuses type=array
 status
   created_atWed Jan 27 04:19:36 + 2010/created_at
   id8265961626/id

 text#3335;#3368;#3405;#3364;#3405;#3375;#3349;#3405;#3349;#3390;#3376;#3393;#3359;#3398;
 #3334;#3382;#3353;#3405;#3349;
 #3370;#3376;#3391;#3351;#3363;#3391;#3349;#3405;#3349;#3363;#3374;#3398;#3368;#3405;#3368;#3405;
 #3347;#3384;#3392;#3384;#3405;
 #3372;#3391;#3383;#3370;#3405;#3370;#3405;:
 #3374;#3398;#3378;#3405;#8205;#3372;#3363;#3405;#8205;:
 #3347;#3384;#3405;#8204;#3359;#3405;#3376;#3399;#3378;#3391;#3375;#3375;#3391;#3378;#3405;#8205;
 #3335;#3368;#3405;#3364;#3405;#3375;#3349;#3405;#3349;#3390;#3376;#3405;#8205;#3349;#3405;#3349;#3398;#3364;#3391;#3376;#3398;
 #3368;#3359;#3349;#3405;#3349;#3393;#3368;#3405;#3368;
 #3334;.../text*

 The above are the junk characters responded , also made convert to UTF8
 but its not converting.

 please help.

 Thanks,
 Rejeev.




 On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 9:14 PM, ryan alford ryanalford...@gmail.comwrote:

 Can you paste an example of the bad characters as .Net shows them, and
 what they should really be?

 Ryan


 On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 5:36 AM, Rejeev rejeevtho...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,

 My Twitter response XML contains some unicode characters , I am not
 able to read that in C#.net. Its showing junk characters. Please help
 me to read that in proper text.

 Thanks,
 Rejeev








[twitter-dev] The remote server returned an error: (401) Unauthorized

2010-01-27 Thread Jayster
Hi can anyone please help I am currently writing an app for Twitter
and I seem to be having a problem with it with the error The remote
server returned an error: (401) Unauthorized. Is there anything I am
doing wrong.

Here is the code:

protected string ExecutePostCommand(string url, string userName,
string password, string data) {
WebRequest request = WebRequest.Create(url);
if (!string.IsNullOrEmpty(userName)  
!string.IsNullOrEmpty
(password)) {
WebProxy pry = new WebProxy(10.5.83.2, 8080);
   // pry.Credentials =
CredentialCache.DefaultCredentials;
pry.Credentials = new NetworkCredential(usernamel,
password,domain);
request.Proxy = pry;
request.ContentType = application/x-www-form-
urlencoded;
request.Method = POST;

if (!string.IsNullOrEmpty(TwitterClient)) {
request.Headers.Add(X-Twitter-Client, 
TwitterClient);
}

if 
(!string.IsNullOrEmpty(TwitterClientVersion)) {

request.Headers.Add(X-Twitter-Version, TwitterClientVersion);
}

if (!string.IsNullOrEmpty(TwitterClientUrl)) {
request.Headers.Add(X-Twitter-URL, 
TwitterClientUrl);
}


if (!string.IsNullOrEmpty(Source)) {
data += source= + 
HttpUtility.UrlEncode(Source);
}

byte[] bytes = Encoding.UTF8.GetBytes(data);

request.ContentLength = bytes.Length;
using (Stream requestStream = 
request.GetRequestStream()) {
requestStream.Write(bytes, 0, 
bytes.Length);

using (WebResponse response = 
request.GetResponse()) {
using (StreamReader reader = 
new StreamReader
(response.GetResponseStream())) {
return 
reader.ReadToEnd();
}
}
}
}

return null;
}


Re: [twitter-dev] The remote server returned an error: (401) Unauthorized

2010-01-27 Thread Ed Costello
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 12:51 AM, Jayster jehs...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

   pry.Credentials = new NetworkCredential(usernamel,
 password,domain);


What are the HTTP headers you’re transmitting to twitter?

-- 
-ed costello


Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Mass account creation

2010-01-27 Thread neal rauhauser
   Every time I saw this thread in my inbox my blood pressure rose. I just
took the time to read it and there is actually some valid content in here.


I run bots. Political campaign stuff, adaptively speaks in hashtags, low
frequency, provides some value. We ask people to NOT follow them as they're
just supposed to be announcing occasional links, but they still gather real
people. Go figure ... and I relentlessly prune autofollow junk. My teeth are
white enough and I give a little round shit about forex trading.

   The bots do a lot more than messaging - like the new Twitter contributor
feature we permit trusted followers (yay, lists!) to speak via a set of
direct message commands. Less trusted users can access a pallet of canned
responses - MSG [SUBJECT] userid.  The whole point is to harness willing
supporters but provide them guidelines. Followers can also sign themselves
up for lists - SUBSCRIBE/UNSUBSCRIBE. So this is how they get direct
messages - it's for our very committed, responsive activists. We're moving
into a low volume, realistic retweet service. It's gotta be something that
the real human would RT anyway, so we're just helping them to find good
content from candidates  campaigns they like anyway.

  I saw this thread and I thought Great, Britbot will be multiplying like
bunnies. After some consideration ...

   It would be nice if a serious web site, say one of the climate activist
sites, could at the time of sign up ask for OR create a new Twitter ID for
the person joining. This *would* be a Twitter API call, it would have a
human associated, and we'd be herding those humans into using the
semi-automated systems like the one I describe above.


   I also do some large scale automated messaging. Twitter doesn't seem to
mind - it's basically data going into hashtags for each Congressional
district. It's not entirely stable and operational, but we're doing things
like providing links to the incumbent  challenger's Twitter IDs, should
they be known, providing links to the FEC data, etc. We spend a lot of time
gather it, the content would almost always be high value in the eyes of
someone looking at the tag, and the sole exception seems to be those poor
people in Delaware, which has an at large Congressman. #DEAL :-(

   I've considered getting one our our people to mass register some scheme
of accounts for each Congressional district and then making it do stuff. The
jury is still out on this - we have lots to do, this is high value but long
lead time before it enhances our reputation. I'll make some move on this
before the election, but maybe not till midsummer.


The sales bots ... meh. If they just follow and they're responding to a
keyword I use I block 'em. It would be a lot less annoying if they'd follow,
hang for 72 hours or something, and then drop me.


   OK, enough talk about development, time to actually go DO some ...




2010/1/27 Ken Dobruskin k...@cimas.ch

  +1, Ed. Nice post. The humans will win!

 Whether every RSS feed, weather station, search query, refrigerator, etc is
 allowed to be turned into a twitter bot is a policy decision for Twitter. I
 like to think that Twitter would prefer to be an original source of unique
 and meaningful content and not just a dump for low grade data.


  First of all, there is only one form of spam - it's *unsolicited*
 messages sent massively.

 When I am followed by a bot, or even a human who has no actual interest in
 my tweets but is only trying for a follow back, I regard it as an
 unsolicited message.
 This happens way too much and as a victim, I don't care if it's been done
 massively. Spam is spam and fake following - on whatever scale - not only
 uses resources but complicates analysis of the social network. Twitter has
 allowed the follow mechanism to be repurposed as a simple attention grabbing
 measure, but they tell us that the rules will evolve. It is also within
 their power to keep the bot armies at bay.

 --
 Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 09:37:43 -0800

 Subject: Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Mass account creation
 From: zzn...@gmail.com

 To: twitter-development-talk@googlegroups.com



 On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 9:02 AM, DenisioDelBoro alya...@gmail.com wrote:

 First of all, there is only one form of spam - it's *unsolicited*
 messages sent massively.
 Second of all, tell me, please, in what way creating, let's say, 100
 accounts just for tweeting weather forecasts for different cities is a
 spam? I'm not talking about mentioning there random nicknames or
 something like that to get new followers, of course. Just pure
 forecast, without any links.
 Third of all, why do you think those RSS feeds will be useless? Maybe
 it's more convenient for some users to get updates with Twitter than
 with Google Reader.


 I don't see how  creating, let's say, 100 accounts just for tweeting
 weather forecasts for different cities fits in with the Twitter spirit,
 which is humans talking to other humans over the