[twitter-dev] Re: Quick hack: using Twitter with Yahoo Placemaker to geolocate tweets

2009-05-28 Thread Christian Heilmann


Brendan O'Connor wrote:



On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 8:08 PM, Nancy M nmira...@gmail.com 
mailto:nmira...@gmail.com wrote:



I do like the maps, but 50% error -- you would not possibly get on an
airplane with that kind of error rate, would you?  And I don't think
I'd want to make decisions about my demographics on something with
that error rate either.   Why not take the IPS and bounce them against
whois or something?


This app isn't about that; it's about what places a person is talking 
about.  You can't use their IP's, the point is to identify locations 
in the text of their tweets.  (I asked whether the app was looking at 
the author's location to help disambiguate because i thought it could 
be used to improve accuracy; but this is hypothetical.)
Thanks, that is exactly the point, as explained in the only text on the 
page:


TweetLocations analyses twitter updates and checks if they contain any 
geographical locations. Instead of relying on the Twitter location in 
your user profile TweetLocations finds the locations you talked about.


:-)



In defense of error rates, if the task is just to get a sense about 
what regions of the world someone tends to talk about, then something 
like a 10% or 20% error rate might be ok; and it was lower than that 
for Chris's and some of the other example twitter users the app was 
suggesting.


Well, error rates are a good question. How would a dumb computer know 
what the context is in 140 characters? Notice that if you use My name 
is Jack London and I live in Toronto PlaceMaker ony shows Toronto, 
which is impressive!


But here's one case where errors are very bad.  One thing I thought 
was great about the map UI was that you can see a flag all by itself 
out in mexico or something, and be curious what the person is saying 
about mexico, and click on it to see the message.  If errors tend to 
be geographic outliers then they really hurt this use case since 
geographic outliers are easy to see and are interesting simply because 
they are unusual (oh, brendan's always boring and talks about 
california, but look, one time he talked about switzerland!  oops, not 
really.)

How could I work around that?



I think the issue with some of the errors the yahoo placemaker thing 
was making with my tweets is, is that it's not integrating very well 
prior information about how commonly those locations are talked about. 
 I think scala is only rarely used to mean the switzerland canton, 
but is quite often used to mean the programming language; but 
placemaker is happy to use a rare, unlikely sense of scala here.
Well, PlaceMaker is a DB of geographical locations (which you can even 
download - http://developer.yahoo.com/geo/geoplanet/data/) and doesn't 
compare with a DB of programming languages. It would be interesting to 
see how it differs from the other (less open) services out there. Maybe 
I'll use Simon Willison's geocoders and only return if there is a match. 
http://github.com/simonw/geocoders/tree/master



regards
Chris



[twitter-dev] Twitter4J 2.0.6 released

2009-05-28 Thread Yusuke Yamamoto

Hi all,

Twitter4J 2.0.6 is available for download.
http://yusuke.homeip.net/twitter4j/en/index.html#download
It is(or will be) available at the Maven central repository.
http://repo1.maven.org/maven2/net/homeip/yusuke/twitter4j/
Snapshot builds can be found at:
http://yusuke.homeip.net/maven2/net/homeip/yusuke/twitter4j/

This is a maintenance release with no new features.

Release Notes - Twitter4J - Version 2.0.6 - HTML format
Bug
[TFJ-157] - getUserTimeline should be invocable from unauthenticated  
Twitter instances

[TFJ-158] - Query.setGeoCode() is missing radius parameter
Task
[TFJ-155] - several async methods need to be marked as deprecated

Thanks,
--
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yus...@mac.com

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[twitter-dev] Re: Quick hack: using Twitter with Yahoo Placemaker to geolocate tweets

2009-05-28 Thread Bjoern

Reading this discussion reminded me of the flickr API. Might be
another good way to find geo locations? Perhaps using it in
combination with Placemaker could help reduce the error rate. I think
with flickr you can only search for specific words, but on the other
hand you can find locations for things (like Notre Dame), not only
for names of places.

http://www.flickr.com/services/api/flickr.places.find.html


[twitter-dev] Changing callback url

2009-05-28 Thread Avi

I am working on oauth twitter login for my application. I was getting
few bugs so I shifted my development work on my test server. Now I was
trying to change callback url in my application settings and was
getting error -

  his page is no longer valid. It looks like someone already used the
token information you provided. Please return to the site that sent
you to this page and try again … it was probably an honest mistake.

Any help or suggestion to fix this problem ?

Avinash
Sales solutions leveraging social computing: http://www.apptility.com
Next generation career management: http://www.codemunch.com


[twitter-dev] Re: Changing callback url

2009-05-28 Thread Matt Sanford


Hi there,

That error comes up if you try to make a request to /oauth/ 
authorize with a request token that has already been used. Are you  
calling /oauth/request_token before this to get a new request token?


Thanks;
 – Matt Sanford / @mzsanford
 Twitter Dev

On May 28, 2009, at 6:28 AM, Avi wrote:



I am working on oauth twitter login for my application. I was getting
few bugs so I shifted my development work on my test server. Now I was
trying to change callback url in my application settings and was
getting error -

 his page is no longer valid. It looks like someone already used the
token information you provided. Please return to the site that sent
you to this page and try again … it was probably an honest mistake.

Any help or suggestion to fix this problem ?

Avinash
Sales solutions leveraging social computing: http://www.apptility.com
Next generation career management: http://www.codemunch.com




[twitter-dev] Re: lots of 404s?

2009-05-28 Thread Jeffrey Greenberg
hmm... Chrome sometimes shows the xml but mostly just a 404 error -- the
latter is confusing as to what's going on...
Anyway, why are there so many? Admittedly I'm plowing through hundreds of
thousands of users, but it *seems* like a lot of them are 'suspended'...
 What is the lifetime of a suspended user? When does that object disppear
entirely from the system? Or does it not?


[twitter-dev] Re: lots of 404s?

2009-05-28 Thread Doug Williams
It will remain permanently unless it is reinstated. There are so many
because people want to make money the easy way -- through spam.
Thanks,
Doug
--

Doug Williams
Twitter Platform Support
http://twitter.com/dougw



On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 8:38 AM, Jeffrey Greenberg 
jeffreygreenb...@gmail.com wrote:

 hmm... Chrome sometimes shows the xml but mostly just a 404 error -- the
 latter is confusing as to what's going on...
 Anyway, why are there so many? Admittedly I'm plowing through hundreds of
 thousands of users, but it *seems* like a lot of them are 'suspended'...
  What is the lifetime of a suspended user? When does that object disppear
 entirely from the system? Or does it not?



[twitter-dev] Re: lots of 404s?

2009-05-28 Thread Jeffrey Greenberg
I seem to be picking these up from the social graph... are they ever elided
from there?


[twitter-dev] Re: WWDC Twitter developer meetup at Twitter HQ: RSVP!

2009-05-28 Thread feesta

I'd like to join. Wednesday at 5pm sounds good.
-Jeff

On May 26, 2:29 pm, twittelator and...@stone.com wrote:
 I'd like to throw out:

 Wednesday June 10th at 5 PM at Twitter HQ because:

 1. classes are over by then
 2. monday folks are too buzzed
 3. tuesday is usually awards and pizza
 4. beer bash on thursday
 5. people have left town by friday

 On May 26, 4:07 pm, Manton Reece man...@gmail.com wrote:



  I'd agree with Craig -- pick any day except Monday and Friday, and
  most people can probably make it work. Afternoon is good.

  Thanks for organizing this!

  On May 21, 4:18 pm, Alex Payne a...@twitter.com wrote:

   Hi all,

   There's great crossover between Twitter API developers and Mac/iPhone
   developers. Andrew Stone, developer of Twittelator Pro, suggested that
   we all get together during WWDC and coordinate around the Apple Push
   Notification Service and other issues of mutual interest. Twitter's
   offices are just a few blocks from Moscone, so it should be easy for
   any interested coders to make it over here.

   Please RSVP with a reply to this thread and let us know what dates and
   times work for you. Andrew was thinking early one morning, but not
   being much of a morning person, I'd prefer something later in the day.
   We'll let group consensus decide.

   Thanks, and hope to see you in early June.

   --
   Alex Payne - API Lead, Twitter, Inc.http://twitter.com/al3x


[twitter-dev] Re: lots of 404s?

2009-05-28 Thread Doug Williams
No, we do not remove suspended users from your following or followers lists.

Thanks,
Doug
--

Doug Williams
Twitter Platform Support
http://twitter.com/dougw



On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 9:19 AM, Jeffrey Greenberg 
jeffreygreenb...@gmail.com wrote:

 I seem to be picking these up from the social graph... are they ever elided
 from there?


[twitter-dev] Possible to retrieve registration date?

2009-05-28 Thread lwbotha

Hey,

I am a researcher interested in the growth of Twitter and as such
would very much like to:

1. Be able to obtain the date at which a user joined the network. Is
this information available through the API (I couldn't find it in the
python-twitter documentation).?

2. Obtain the friend list of a user without having the user's
password, is this possible?

Thank you very much for any help.



[twitter-dev] Re: WWDC Twitter developer meetup at Twitter HQ: RSVP!

2009-05-28 Thread Pablo Lopez

Count me in too!!

On May 21, 5:18 pm, Alex Payne a...@twitter.com wrote:
 Hi all,

 There's great crossover between Twitter API developers and Mac/iPhone
 developers. Andrew Stone, developer of Twittelator Pro, suggested that
 we all get together during WWDC and coordinate around the Apple Push
 Notification Service and other issues of mutual interest. Twitter's
 offices are just a few blocks from Moscone, so it should be easy for
 any interested coders to make it over here.

 Please RSVP with a reply to this thread and let us know what dates and
 times work for you. Andrew was thinking early one morning, but not
 being much of a morning person, I'd prefer something later in the day.
 We'll let group consensus decide.

 Thanks, and hope to see you in early June.

 --
 Alex Payne - API Lead, Twitter, Inc.http://twitter.com/al3x


[twitter-dev] Re: Possible to retrieve registration date?

2009-05-28 Thread Abraham Williams
2009/5/28 lwbotha lwbo...@gmail.com


 Hey,

 I am a researcher interested in the growth of Twitter and as such
 would very much like to:

 1. Be able to obtain the date at which a user joined the network. Is
 this information available through the API (I couldn't find it in the
 python-twitter documentation).?


http://apiwiki.twitter.com/Twitter-REST-API-Method%3A-users%C2%A0show


 2. Obtain the friend list of a user without having the user's
 password, is this possible?


http://apiwiki.twitter.com/Twitter-REST-API-Method%3A-statuses%C2%A0friends



 Thank you very much for any help.




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[twitter-dev] Re: Proposal: account_type property

2009-05-28 Thread MPS

Sure, someone could develop a service for classifying twitter
accounts, but that's less than ideal for a number of reasons:

- introduces yet another 3rd party service that developers have to
deal with
- multiple account classification systems would result in less
meaningful data
- Twitter is the only company in a position to enable users to
classify themselves - they could just make this a required dropdown in
their signup form.

I really think it would be enough just to have a flag that marks
accounts as Personal. Marking an account as Personal that is in fact
used primarily for commercial purposes or driven by a bot could be
considered a violation of Twitter's TOS.

This would add huge value to users  developers. I hope someone @
Twitter is listening!

On May 27, 11:34 am, Chad Etzel jazzyc...@gmail.com wrote:
 Need to classify a twitter account? There's an app for that!  ...maybe
 -Chad

 On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Abraham Williams 4bra...@gmail.com wrote:
  Sounds like a third party app to me.

  2009/5/27 Adam Covati cov...@gmail.com

  Hmm, could definitely be of some use. Of course, with no policing it
  would not be entirely reliable, but I guess it could help in a number
  of different ways. The difficult part is classifying things, I would
  probably want a few more types

  1. Personal - your standard user on twitter
  2. Business - similar to personal, but represents a company
  3. FeedBot - auto tweets from rss feed
  4. Bot - auto tweets based off of some other sort of information
  stream
  5. I'm sure there are more...

  On May 27, 10:17 am, MPS mpelzsher...@gmail.com wrote:
   I would like to propose an additional property on twitter accounts:
   account_type.

   The main purpose for this would be to distinguish personal vs.
   business accounts.

   This would be very useful for apps that want to target one or the
   other type of twitter account.

   Who's with me on this? :-)

   - Michael

  --
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  Hacker |http://abrah.am|http://twitter.com/abraham
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[twitter-dev] Re: Proposal: account_type property

2009-05-28 Thread Abraham Williams
http://wefollow.com/ is an example of mass numbers of twitter users
classifying themselves.

Yes the data is not as deep as if twitter itself provided the classification
but it helps keept twitter.com clean and simple.

I don't think this adds as much value you think it will but I could be
proven wrong.

End result though is this is not a feature that the API team is going to
implement unless twitter itself adds the feature. You should make your
suggestion to http://help.twitter.com

On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 12:15, MPS mpelzsher...@gmail.com wrote:


 Sure, someone could develop a service for classifying twitter
 accounts, but that's less than ideal for a number of reasons:

 - introduces yet another 3rd party service that developers have to
 deal with
 - multiple account classification systems would result in less
 meaningful data
 - Twitter is the only company in a position to enable users to
 classify themselves - they could just make this a required dropdown in
 their signup form.

 I really think it would be enough just to have a flag that marks
 accounts as Personal. Marking an account as Personal that is in fact
 used primarily for commercial purposes or driven by a bot could be
 considered a violation of Twitter's TOS.

 This would add huge value to users  developers. I hope someone @
 Twitter is listening!

 On May 27, 11:34 am, Chad Etzel jazzyc...@gmail.com wrote:
  Need to classify a twitter account? There's an app for that!  ...maybe
  -Chad
 
  On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Abraham Williams 4bra...@gmail.com
 wrote:
   Sounds like a third party app to me.
 
   2009/5/27 Adam Covati cov...@gmail.com
 
   Hmm, could definitely be of some use. Of course, with no policing it
   would not be entirely reliable, but I guess it could help in a number
   of different ways. The difficult part is classifying things, I would
   probably want a few more types
 
   1. Personal - your standard user on twitter
   2. Business - similar to personal, but represents a company
   3. FeedBot - auto tweets from rss feed
   4. Bot - auto tweets based off of some other sort of information
   stream
   5. I'm sure there are more...
 
   On May 27, 10:17 am, MPS mpelzsher...@gmail.com wrote:
I would like to propose an additional property on twitter accounts:
account_type.
 
The main purpose for this would be to distinguish personal vs.
business accounts.
 
This would be very useful for apps that want to target one or the
other type of twitter account.
 
Who's with me on this? :-)
 
- Michael
 
   --
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   Hacker |http://abrah.am|http://twitter.com/abraham
   Project |http://fireeagle.labs.poseurtech.com
   This email is: [ ] blogable [x] ask first [ ] private.




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[twitter-dev] Re: Proposal: account_type property

2009-05-28 Thread Doug Williams
Well thought out and logical Peter. This is exactly how we think about it
internally.
Thanks,
Doug
--

Doug Williams
Twitter Platform Support
http://twitter.com/dougw





On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 12:37 PM, Peter Denton petermden...@gmail.comwrote:

 I agree with the fact that it would be a good thing for the api developers
 to get as a tidbit, but if I were at Twitter Product I would decline this
 because it adds complexity to the registration process that does not
 translate to value for the users on twitter.com. If I am a one man shop
 design firm who does work with Nike, do you really want me to have to sit
 there and decide whether I am a person or a business? And after I have
 run the  numbers and decided I am a business, my tone might be affected
 because I am now speaking on behalf oy my business. It affects the core
 nature of twitter and doesnt give the user much.
 I think the definition of a business on twitter will emerge from companies
 paying twitter to be identified as such. Paying a premium on an identity
 itself validates the level of business, and twitter can then expsoe the
 social graph of the businesses on twitter. You then create a scenario
 where all those who want to clearly identify their species can do so in a
 non-intrusive manner that does not affect Jane User's,
 just-saw-Oprah-and-ready-to-tweet registration process.

 always just an opinion


 On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 12:15 PM, MPS mpelzsher...@gmail.com wrote:


 Sure, someone could develop a service for classifying twitter
 accounts, but that's less than ideal for a number of reasons:

 - introduces yet another 3rd party service that developers have to
 deal with
 - multiple account classification systems would result in less
 meaningful data
 - Twitter is the only company in a position to enable users to
 classify themselves - they could just make this a required dropdown in
 their signup form.

 I really think it would be enough just to have a flag that marks
 accounts as Personal. Marking an account as Personal that is in fact
 used primarily for commercial purposes or driven by a bot could be
 considered a violation of Twitter's TOS.

 This would add huge value to users  developers. I hope someone @
 Twitter is listening!

 On May 27, 11:34 am, Chad Etzel jazzyc...@gmail.com wrote:
  Need to classify a twitter account? There's an app for that!  ...maybe
  -Chad
 
  On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Abraham Williams 4bra...@gmail.com
 wrote:
   Sounds like a third party app to me.
 
   2009/5/27 Adam Covati cov...@gmail.com
 
   Hmm, could definitely be of some use. Of course, with no policing it
   would not be entirely reliable, but I guess it could help in a number
   of different ways. The difficult part is classifying things, I would
   probably want a few more types
 
   1. Personal - your standard user on twitter
   2. Business - similar to personal, but represents a company
   3. FeedBot - auto tweets from rss feed
   4. Bot - auto tweets based off of some other sort of information
   stream
   5. I'm sure there are more...
 
   On May 27, 10:17 am, MPS mpelzsher...@gmail.com wrote:
I would like to propose an additional property on twitter accounts:
account_type.
 
The main purpose for this would be to distinguish personal vs.
business accounts.
 
This would be very useful for apps that want to target one or the
other type of twitter account.
 
Who's with me on this? :-)
 
- Michael
 
   --
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   Hacker |http://abrah.am|http://twitter.com/abraham
   Project |http://fireeagle.labs.poseurtech.com
   This email is: [ ] blogable [x] ask first [ ] private.






[twitter-dev] OAuth Desktop Application Changes - Incompatibility Alert

2009-05-28 Thread Matt Sanford

Hello,

One of the things we've been saying about OAuth all along is that  
we'll be improving the desktop application experience. Well, the time  
is here for the first re-visit. As part of out changes for OAuth  
version 1.0a [1] I have been looking at how this is going to work and  
there is going to need to be a change that will not be backward  
compatible. Some of this is already coded and waiting to go, and some  
of it is in-progress. I expect we will deploy this the end of next  
week or the beginning of the following one in order to allow you to  
have a minimum of 7 days to make changes. These only effect desktop  
applications so the majority of OAuth applications are not affected.  
Here are the expected changes:


1. If your application is registered as a desktop application  
callbacks will not be supported.


Workaround: Visit your application details page to change the  
application type and provide a default callback URL.
Details: Dynamic callbacks are currently disabled for all  
applications. With changes for 1.0a [1] will re-enable dynamic  
callback support but applications registered as 'desktop' will not  
support this. When requesting a request token the you will get an  
error saying that callbacks are not supported in desktop applications.  
This is to prevent stealing of tokens created with a PIN (see #2) by  
webapps re-using the freely available desktop consumer key and secret.


2. If your application is registered as a desktop application there  
will be a PIN the user must enter in your application


Details: In the current code desktop applications end in a dead- 
end page. This new flow will give the user a PIN that they enter in  
the application and that must be provided to swap a request token for  
an access token. This will help secure tokens for desktop applications  
since the security of the consumer key and secret cannot be relied upon.
Feedback: We are planning to make this a required step but I am  
open to discussion if anyone feels there is a compelling case for  
desktop applications without a PIN. Email me directly with feedback.


3. If your application is registered as a desktop application you will  
not be able to use the 'Sign in with Twitter' functionality.


Details: 'Sign in with Twitter' requires a callback URL which  
will not be allowed per #1 above.


We're working to make sure we provide OAuth interfaces wherever  
possible. Desktop applications was a definite problem that needed some  
fixing. Close behind that is mobile web which is currently being  
looked at by a group reviewing all of m.twitter.com. If you have any  
objections to the changes above, or some reason that you don't think  
it will work, please feel free to email me directly.


Thanks;
 – Matt Sanford / @mzsanford
 Twitter Dev

[1] - OAuth spec 1.0a addresses problems with oauth_callback and  
should be finalized very soon. More info at http://groups.google.com/group/oauth/browse_frm/thread/b0345ad5b5466587

[twitter-dev] Re: Proposal: account_type property

2009-05-28 Thread Michael Pelz-Sherman
I really like the idea of companies paying a premium to use Twitter for 
advertising. :-)

What would motivate corporations to do that though, since they can do it for 
free today?

Seems to me that one way or another, you end up having to somehow create a 
distinction between personal and corporate accounts.

I understand there are problems with this proposal. It's a big problem for 
social networks in general. I'll be interested to see what happens.





From: Doug Williams d...@twitter.com
To: twitter-development-talk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 3:52:56 PM
Subject: [twitter-dev] Re: Proposal: account_type property

Well thought out and logical Peter. This is exactly how we think about it 
internally.

Thanks,
Doug
--

Doug Williams
Twitter Platform Support
http://twitter.com/dougw







On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 12:37 PM, Peter Denton petermden...@gmail.com wrote:

I agree with the fact that it would be a good thing for the api developers to 
get as a tidbit, but if I were at Twitter Product I would decline this because 
it adds complexity to the registration process that does not translate to value 
for the users on twitter.com. If I am a one man shop design firm who does work 
with Nike, do you really want me to have to sit there and decide whether I am a 
person or a business? And after I have run the  numbers and decided I am a 
business, my tone might be affected because I am now speaking on behalf oy my 
business. It affects the core nature of twitter and doesnt give the user much.
I think the definition of a business on twitter will emerge from companies 
paying twitter to be identified as such. Paying a premium on an identity itself 
validates the level of business, and twitter can then expsoe the social graph 
of the businesses on twitter. You then create a scenario where all those who 
want to clearly identify their species can do so in a non-intrusive manner that 
does not affect Jane User's, just-saw-Oprah-and-ready-to-tweet registration 
process. 

always just an opinion



On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 12:15 PM, MPS mpelzsher...@gmail.com wrote:


Sure, someone could develop a service for classifying twitter
accounts, but that's less than ideal for a number of reasons:

- introduces yet another 3rd party service that developers have to
deal with
- multiple account classification systems would result in less
meaningful data
- Twitter is the only company in a position to enable users to
classify themselves - they could just make this a required dropdown in
their signup form.

I really think it would be enough just to have a flag that marks
accounts as Personal. Marking an account as Personal that is in fact
used primarily for commercial purposes or driven by a bot could be
considered a violation of Twitter's TOS.

This would add huge value to users  developers. I hope someone @
Twitter is listening!


On May 27, 11:34 am, Chad Etzel jazzyc...@gmail.com wrote:
 Need to classify a twitter account? There's an app for that!  ...maybe
 -Chad


 On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Abraham Williams 4bra...@gmail.com wrote:
  Sounds like a third party app to me.

  2009/5/27 Adam Covati cov...@gmail.com


  Hmm, could definitely be of some use. Of course, with no policing it
  would not be entirely reliable, but I guess it could help in a number
  of different ways. The difficult part is classifying things, I would
  probably want a few more types

  1. Personal - your standard user on twitter
  2. Business - similar to personal, but represents a company
  3. FeedBot - auto tweets from rss feed
  4. Bot - auto tweets based off of some other sort of information
  stream
  5. I'm sure there are more...

  On May 27, 10:17 am, MPS mpelzsher...@gmail.com wrote:
   I would like to propose an additional property on twitter accounts:
   account_type.

   The main purpose for this would be to distinguish personal vs.
   business accounts.

   This would be very useful for apps that want to target one or the
   other type of twitter account.

   Who's with me on this? :-)

   - Michael

  --
  Abraham Williams |http://the.hackerconundrum.com
  Hacker |http://abrah.am|http://twitter.com/abraham
  Project |http://fireeagle.labs.poseurtech.com
  This email is: [ ] blogable [x] ask first [ ] private.






[twitter-dev] Re: geocode doesnt include non-geocoded locations? (web)

2009-05-28 Thread Chris Latko

You could use Yahoo GeoPlanet to try to make sense of some of that  
garbage:

http://developer.yahoo.com/geo/geoplanet/guide/

They have over 8 million place names in their woeID DB.

I'm against forcing users to set a proper location. For example, I  
spend half my time in Tokyo and don't want to always be updating.

Chris


On May 25, 2009, at 5:11 AM, Sherif wrote:


 Yeah - what Chris said.. I'm trying to geo-plot location.. but because
 twitter lets users enter anything for location - people enter a lot of
 rubbish sometimes... Makes it a bit interesting when you are trying to
 geo-plot!

 Does anyone know if there is a twitter feature request raised to force
 the user to enter a proper location? or one that give me a users
 location based on an IP-range.. ? Maybe we should raise one?...

 Sherif


 On May 24, 1:34 pm, Zee zeeom...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks Chris, i believe you are right. Will have to somehow modify my
 application to estimate the location.

 On May 23, 10:03 am, Chris Thomson chri...@chris24.ca wrote:

 I believe locations are based solely on what the user enters in  
 for their
 location. In other words, it could be inaccurate, left blank, or  
 the place
 might not even exist. I'd assume that if Twitter was automatically  
 guessing
 at where people are based on their IP, they'd have something to  
 say about
 that in their privacy policy [1].

 1 -http://twitter.com/privacy

 -Chris Thomson

 On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 3:55 AM, Zee zeeom...@gmail.com wrote:

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[twitter-dev] Re: WWDC Twitter developer meetup at Twitter HQ: RSVP!

2009-05-28 Thread Damon Clinkscales

Hey Alex/Matt/Doug

when you think this can be decided?  Can Wed. at 5pm work for the meetup?

Thanks,
-damon

On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Pablo Lopez pablitolo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Count me in too!!

 On May 21, 5:18 pm, Alex Payne a...@twitter.com wrote:
 Hi all,

 There's great crossover between Twitter API developers and Mac/iPhone
 developers. Andrew Stone, developer of Twittelator Pro, suggested that
 we all get together during WWDC and coordinate around the Apple Push
 Notification Service and other issues of mutual interest. Twitter's
 offices are just a few blocks from Moscone, so it should be easy for
 any interested coders to make it over here.

 Please RSVP with a reply to this thread and let us know what dates and
 times work for you. Andrew was thinking early one morning, but not
 being much of a morning person, I'd prefer something later in the day.
 We'll let group consensus decide.

 Thanks, and hope to see you in early June.

 --
 Alex Payne - API Lead, Twitter, Inc.http://twitter.com/al3x


[twitter-dev] Re: OAuth Desktop Application Changes - Incompatibility Alert

2009-05-28 Thread Michael Ekstrand

Matt Sanford m...@twitter.com writes:
 2. If your application is registered as a desktop application there
 will be a PIN the user must enter in your application

 Details: In the current code desktop applications end in a dead-
 end page. This new flow will give the user a PIN that they enter in
 the application and that must be provided to swap a request token for
 an access token. This will help secure tokens for desktop applications
 since the security of the consumer key and secret cannot be relied
 upon.
 Feedback: We are planning to make this a required step but I am
 open to discussion if anyone feels there is a compelling case for
 desktop applications without a PIN. Email me directly with feedback.

Let me make sure I understand the proposed flow correctly:

 1. Application uses consumer key/secret to get request token, sends
user to Twitter authentication page.
 2. User authenticates with Twitter and authorizes application.
 3. Twitter gives user PIN number which they then enter in to the
application.
 4. Application uses PIN and request token to get access token and
proceeds as normal with OAuth-authenticated requests.

With this setup, will users be able to authenticate multiple instances
of the same application?  If so, it might be useful to allow the user to
optionally assign a name to the application instance, so long as that
doesn't make the user experience too confusing.

- Michael

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[twitter-dev] Re: WWDC Twitter developer meetup at Twitter HQ: RSVP!

2009-05-28 Thread Alex Payne

Yup! Wednesday, 5pm.

On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 16:08, Damon Clinkscales sca...@pobox.com wrote:

 Hey Alex/Matt/Doug

 when you think this can be decided?  Can Wed. at 5pm work for the meetup?

 Thanks,
 -damon

 On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Pablo Lopez pablitolo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Count me in too!!

 On May 21, 5:18 pm, Alex Payne a...@twitter.com wrote:
 Hi all,

 There's great crossover between Twitter API developers and Mac/iPhone
 developers. Andrew Stone, developer of Twittelator Pro, suggested that
 we all get together during WWDC and coordinate around the Apple Push
 Notification Service and other issues of mutual interest. Twitter's
 offices are just a few blocks from Moscone, so it should be easy for
 any interested coders to make it over here.

 Please RSVP with a reply to this thread and let us know what dates and
 times work for you. Andrew was thinking early one morning, but not
 being much of a morning person, I'd prefer something later in the day.
 We'll let group consensus decide.

 Thanks, and hope to see you in early June.

 --
 Alex Payne - API Lead, Twitter, Inc.http://twitter.com/al3x




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[twitter-dev] Re: search.rss

2009-05-28 Thread davidzimm

I am migrating my app from rss to atom and realized something- a
problem I thought was limited to rss occurs with atom as well.

Here's the problem: sometimes, even within a matter of minutes, a feed
loses the latest item and then gets it back. This is supremely
annoying. I thought switching to an atom feed would fix this but it
has not.

This is besides the issue of the feeds not keeping up with twitter-
but I think you already know about this.


[twitter-dev] APIs to receive and send SMS messages to users?

2009-05-28 Thread kiran

I'm building an interactive SMS app and looking for simple HTTP APIs
to send messages to and receive messages from users.
 - Does twitter support such APIs to interact with twitter users (i
didn't find any documentation on these)?
 - If not, where can i find free APIs that don't charge per message
(the SMS aggregators/carriers charge a per-message fee, expensive for
garage startups).

Typically, these APIs are offered on a shared short-code, and the
mobile-originated messages would start with an app prefix (e.g. APP1)
so the API platform would know which application to call.

thanks
Kiran


[twitter-dev] Authentication problem

2009-05-28 Thread yuva

Hi friends..

I am developing twitter Desktop Application based on QT asoftware... I
am using open source twitter library(twitLib) ,which is avaiable in
google code...http://code.google.com/p/twitlib/

I am sending the username  and password to twitter server

if i get status value 200 means ,i will navigate the login page to
main page...


when i try to get the server status value ,it is giving 6 digit
value..like 243592...

if i provide coorect or wrong detaiks too ,it is showing same thing
only...

I have used the following line to print the server status value...

SERVER::RESP resp;

if(resp == 200)
{

  wid = new Widget();
 wid-show;


please help me to solve this issue...


[twitter-dev] Re: APIs to receive and send SMS messages to users?

2009-05-28 Thread Abraham Williams
Twitter does not provide direct SMS interaction with users. You could use
direct messages but the user may not have SMS notifications turned on.

If you check out Wikipedia they have a list of gateways for email to SMS.
For example you send an email to phonenumber@sms.att.net (not actually
ATT's address) and it shows up on the phone. Nice and cheap but not the
carriers first priority.

You can allso try this thing called Google. I've heard of a number of
startus that provide APIs to send SMSs and such they are probably only going
to be free if they are add supported.

2009/5/28 kiran kiran.bell...@gmail.com


 I'm building an interactive SMS app and looking for simple HTTP APIs
 to send messages to and receive messages from users.
  - Does twitter support such APIs to interact with twitter users (i
 didn't find any documentation on these)?
  - If not, where can i find free APIs that don't charge per message
 (the SMS aggregators/carriers charge a per-message fee, expensive for
 garage startups).

 Typically, these APIs are offered on a shared short-code, and the
 mobile-originated messages would start with an app prefix (e.g. APP1)
 so the API platform would know which application to call.

 thanks
 Kiran




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[twitter-dev] Re: Authentication problem

2009-05-28 Thread Abraham Williams
2009/5/28 yuva yuvaraj...@gmail.com

 when i try to get the server status value ,it is giving 6 digit
 value..like 243592...


Can you explain what you mean by this?

Also it sounds like you would be better off asking the maintainer of twitlib
for help as it is probably an issue specific to that library.

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