[twitter-dev] Re: A Fresh Approach To Follower Processing

2009-06-11 Thread jstrellner
This would be VERY useful to us. Although for our needs, a stream might be overkill. But if each request for the social graph data can come with a request ID, or even an exact time stamp, which we could provide on the next request and get a diff between the two calls, it would help a lot. If

[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter Developer/Founder Community on Ning - Registration Open

2009-06-11 Thread Andrew Badera
Of course you don't consider it fragmentation, even if that's exactly what you've just described. Can I go to a single, official, original place to get the entire conversation? Nope, you've just created a new place people need to go, a place where new knowledge will inevitably accrete and not

[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter Developer/Founder Community on Ning - Registration Open

2009-06-11 Thread Justyn Howard
So you only use one social networking site? One email account? Of course because information in several places would be fragmentation right? Oh wait, you're on Friendfeed, Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, StumbleUpon, etc. Conversations take many forms. We wanted to create closer relationships with

[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter Developer/Founder Community on Ning - Registration Open

2009-06-11 Thread Andrew Badera
Poor strawmen. And yes, I do use only one email account, thanks. Social networking sites are the epitome of fragmentation, and they don't revolve around my use of official documentation and communication, for many, many reasons -- first and foremost, they're not well suited, they're not easily

[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter Developer/Founder Community on Ning - Registration Open

2009-06-11 Thread Justyn Howard
Yeah, we should probably shut down everything new and go back to IRC. C'mon man, I wanted to network with other interesting devs, period. If there was a place to easily do that more socially than Groups, I would have happily joined and called it a day. On 6/11/09 2:37 AM, Andrew Badera

[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter Application Usage Guidelines, Please Read

2009-06-11 Thread Paul Kinlan
Brant, As the developer of Twollo I take an exception to you saying Twollo is an abusive application and violates the TOS. We are do not exist to abuse the system, the number of user on our system is large and the vast majority of our users are good users who have a genuine interest in finding

[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter Developer/Founder Community on Ning - Registration Open

2009-06-11 Thread Andrew Badera
So now you're reduced to what comes across as whining, but you've stopped denying fragmentation. Well hey, that's a step in the right direction I guess. Because of course what the world needs is ANOTHER social network, or another aspect of an existing social network, to serve the developers of

[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter Developer/Founder Community on Ning - Registration Open

2009-06-11 Thread Justyn Howard
Your one-upmanship amuses me. Doesn't your profession involve developing for social networks? In regards to fragmentation, I wanted a place to connect with entrepreneurs who are doing interesting things with Twitter. To talk best-practices (business), network with founders of complimentary tools,

[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter Developer/Founder Community on Ning - Registration Open

2009-06-11 Thread Andrew Badera
And yet you keep posting on-list ... amusing, yep. On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 4:12 AM, Justyn Howardjustyn.how...@gmail.com wrote: Feel free to email me directly if you want to continue this discussion - I don't think the group cares. On 6/11/09 2:54 AM, Andrew Badera and...@badera.us

[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter Developer/Founder Community on Ning - Registration Open

2009-06-11 Thread Justyn Howard
Are you drunk? Your .sig says ask permission to email, so I posted here. There is no personal gain involved and I have given way more than I have received. If you want to judge my character, as I mentioned, email me direct. You have my permission. On 6/11/09 3:13 AM, Andrew Badera

[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter Developer/Founder Community on Ning - Registration Open

2009-06-11 Thread jstrellner
Andrew, Please calm down. If you're not happy with his initiative, voice it and move on. The only fragmentation that I see right now, is one that you are creating among developers. If developers feel like they might get bashed for posting their ideas here, they wont post them here, which is

[twitter-dev] Re: New oAuth Redirect Page

2009-06-11 Thread DrBigFresh
Were custom callbacks by any chance pushed live yet? Is there any info on how to use them anywhere? Being able to pass variables through will solve a HOST of issues for me. Thanks! On Jun 3, 2:03 pm, Matt Sanford m...@twitter.com wrote: Hi there,      This page was needed because of a

[twitter-dev] Re: New oAuth Redirect Page

2009-06-11 Thread Abraham Williams
http://groups.google.com/group/twitter-development-talk/browse_thread/thread/472500cfe9e7cdb9 On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 09:10, DrBigFresh drbigfr...@gmail.com wrote: Were custom callbacks by any chance pushed live yet? Is there any info on how to use them anywhere? Being able to pass variables

[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter Application Usage Guidelines, Please Read

2009-06-11 Thread Abraham Williams
What if the Twitter community were to draft a code of honor that could be voted on by anyone with a Twitter account. Kind of like the Facebook ToS voting but actually community driven. A few questions regarding this: Do you think it would be possible for the community to come to a final decision?

[twitter-dev] Problem with non-Latin symbols with oAuth

2009-06-11 Thread shatokhin
Hello, I am using oAuth in my application (http://www.voiceoftech.com/ swhitley/?p=681). It works well with Latin symbols. But if I am using non Latin symbols, e.g. Russian xml = oAuth.oAuthWebRequest(oAuthTwitter.Method.POST, url, status= + Обновился ресурс); I received 401. Do you have any

[twitter-dev] New Dev + API Call Problems

2009-06-11 Thread netdevinc.com
I wanted to introduced myself to the community, say hi, and ask for help! I am a 10 year VB.NET developer and Air Force veteran. I have recently started learning C# / WPF / and some Tweet #! I started a quick wpf app yesterday and had two simple things working. Got a list of tweets by hashtag

[twitter-dev] Re: How to get all messages between a start and end date

2009-06-11 Thread Rafe
Byteblocks, Try using the page and rpp parameters in addition to the since parameter: # rpp: Optional. The number of tweets to return per page, up to a max of 100. * Example: http://search.twitter.com/search.atom?q=devorpp=15 # page: Optional. The page number (starting at 1) to return, up

[twitter-dev] Re: Whacking The Spammers

2009-06-11 Thread Dean Collins
-Original Message- From: twitter-development-talk@googlegroups.com [mailto:twitter-development-t...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris McIntosh Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 5:36 PM To: twitter-development-talk@googlegroups.com Subject: [twitter-dev] Re: Whacking The Spammers That

[twitter-dev] Re: number of private accounts/ random user sample

2009-06-11 Thread TechRavingMad
It will of course depend on your definition of active, but I think 10% is a very gracious number. According to my data only 15% of all twitter accounts have posted more than times. On Jun 10, 11:28 pm, lucy a.downy.h...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I know that retrieving a random user sample is an

[twitter-dev] What to do with oauth_token

2009-06-11 Thread AugustBorn
Hi Once I get back oauth_token value what do I do with it? And how do I use the API methods with this value? Whenever I look at examples of using Twitter API methods that need authentication I can only find examples that uses a username and password in the parameter. How do you use the API

[twitter-dev] Re: number of private accounts/ random user sample

2009-06-11 Thread lucy
My poke shows roughly 7-9%, with only a third of the random id's between 1 and (8 digits) returning user accounts. (a test up to 10 digit id's returned no user accounts) I did a few runs with 1000 sampled user id's, so there you are. If you want details let me know. On Jun 11, 12:28 

[twitter-dev] Re: New Dev + API Call Problems

2009-06-11 Thread Naveen Kohli
Put a break point right after you send request to Twitter to get response and see what is being returned. I have a feeling that you are running into request rate limit. And the response you are getting back is not getting translated to your collection objects. Do you use any third party libraries

[twitter-dev] Re: Updating a users location as a hyperlink

2009-06-11 Thread Abraham Williams
Nope. They only profile information that gets hyperlinked is the More Info URL field. You could use a URL in the Location field but people would have to manually copy/paste the URL. Abraham On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 02:09, MiKey mike@gmail.com wrote: Is it possible to make the users location

[twitter-dev] Re: New Public Streaming API Resource - Follow

2009-06-11 Thread AE
On Jun 10, 6:51 pm, John Kalucki jkalu...@gmail.com wrote: I haven't done the math, but I don't think a single prolific user could tweet more than you can consume. Now, if you are trying to consume an inordinate number of users, then yes, you'll have a problem. TheStreamingAPIlimits the

[twitter-dev] Re: How to get all messages between a start and end date

2009-06-11 Thread 0 3
Also, take a look at search.json. It will give you what to call for the previous and next page of results. Or, it will give no previous or next when you reach the last or first page. It also give the max_id and since_id. On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Rafe rafe.kem...@gmail.com wrote:

[twitter-dev] Re: Problem with non-Latin symbols with oAuth

2009-06-11 Thread Abraham Williams
Are you properly encoding to UTF-8? 2009/6/11 shatokhin v.shatok...@gmail.com Hello, I am using oAuth in my application (http://www.voiceoftech.com/ swhitley/?p=681). It works well with Latin symbols. But if I am using non Latin symbols, e.g. Russian xml =

[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter Developer/Founder Community on Ning - Registration Open

2009-06-11 Thread Dossy Shiobara
On 6/11/09 9:27 AM, jstrellner wrote: If developers feel like they might get bashed for posting their ideas here, they wont post them here, which is fragmentation. If only this were true, then we should aggressively bash all the dumb ideas until this list's signal-to-noise ratio improves.

[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter Developer/Founder Community on Ning - Registration Open

2009-06-11 Thread Abraham Williams
Hey! I have an idea! Lets have tea party! On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 10:34, Dossy Shiobara do...@panoptic.com wrote: On 6/11/09 9:27 AM, jstrellner wrote: If developers feel like they might get bashed for posting their ideas here, they wont post them here, which is fragmentation. If only

[twitter-dev] twitter apps api

2009-06-11 Thread sujamthe
Folks, The unique nature of twitter apps is apps can call each other additional to calling twitter api. I am building a spreadsheet of twitter apps which call other twitter apps with their own apis here: http://ow.ly/cNCN This is going to be part of a blog post. Also, I am interested in

[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter Application Usage Guidelines, Please Read

2009-06-11 Thread Dossy Shiobara
Without the potency of enforcement, what's the point? Quick, let's form the Twitter Shun Force. We'll have an angry mob of shunners and sneerings. -- Dossy Shiobara do...@panoptic.com -Original Message- From: Abraham Williams 4bra...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 09:52:33 To:

[twitter-dev] Re: New Public Streaming API Resource - Follow

2009-06-11 Thread John Kalucki
Let me restate: If you are trying to follow many prolific users via the REST API, then, yes, it just might be mathematically possible to have the REST API rate limit prevent you from seeing all of your timeline. In other words, if you follow 2000 accounts that each post every 5 minutes, that's

[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter Developer/Founder Community on Ning - Registration Open

2009-06-11 Thread Mario Gooding
So who do I contact with my web site ideas? On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Dossy Shiobara do...@panoptic.com wrote: On 6/11/09 9:27 AM, jstrellner wrote: If developers feel like they might get bashed for posting their ideas here, they wont post them here, which is fragmentation. If

[twitter-dev] Re: New Dev + API Call Problems

2009-06-11 Thread netdevinc.com
I am using TweetSharp to interface with the Rest API code IFluentTwitter twitter = GetAuthenticatedRequest(); twitter.Users().GetFollowers().AsJson(); var twitterResponse = twitter.Request(); var myFollowers = twitterResponse.AsUsers(); /code twitterResponse looks like a text representation of

[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter Application Usage Guidelines, Please Read

2009-06-11 Thread Caliban Darklock
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 7:52 AM, Abraham Williams4bra...@gmail.com wrote: How would the CoH be social enforced? I think there's already social enforcement. You can d spam @whoever or just @spam @whoever to make your report. Developers of desktop clients might consider making a little macro

[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter Developer/Founder Community on Ning - Registration Open

2009-06-11 Thread Caliban Darklock
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 8:36 AM, Abraham Williams4bra...@gmail.com wrote: Hey! I have an idea! Lets have  tea party! In Boston!

[twitter-dev] Re: A Fresh Approach To Follower Processing

2009-06-11 Thread Dewald Pretorius
I wouldn't want to sit at the receiving end of a full follower transaction stream. I will be getting millions of transactions that I have no interest in. That's why I suggested Gnip. Let them sit in front of the firehose, and funnel what I need into user-specific garden hoses. Dewald

[twitter-dev] Re: Purposed method: friendships/show

2009-06-11 Thread Craig Hockenberry
I agree with Chad: explicitly stating the source and target in the attribute name makes it much clearer. It also has a side benefit of bringing the information you need most (for a UI) to the top of the results hierarchy. -ch On Jun 9, 10:52 am, Marcel Molina mar...@twitter.com wrote: Thanks

[twitter-dev] oauth problem - whats wrong here? - I always get a 401 error - oauth 1.0a problem?

2009-06-11 Thread Jochen Kaechelin
def self.consumer # The readkey and readsecret below are the values you get during registration OAuth::Consumer.new(X, , { :site=http:// twitter.com }) end def sign_in @request_token = UsersController.consumer.get_request_token(:oauth_callback =

[twitter-dev] Re: A Fresh Approach To Follower Processing

2009-06-11 Thread Doug Williams
It would be a subset similar to /follow or /birddog, not the entire social graph. But again, what is your use-case? Thanks, Doug On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 9:31 AM, Dewald Pretorius dpr...@gmail.com wrote: I wouldn't want to sit at the receiving end of a full follower transaction stream. I

[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter Application Usage Guidelines, Please Read

2009-06-11 Thread Paul Kinlan
You could do the Stackoverflow method of quietly silencing/ignoring the users that are spamming/abusing the system which is why I suggested not sending the XYZ is now following you email for people that look like they are abusing the system. Paul. 2009/6/11 Caliban Darklock cdarkl...@gmail.com

[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter Application Usage Guidelines, Please Read

2009-06-11 Thread Dossy Shiobara
On 6/11/09 2:48 PM, Paul Kinlan wrote: You could do the Stackoverflow method of quietly silencing/ignoring the users that are spamming/abusing the system which is why I suggested not sending the XYZ is now following you email for people that look like they are abusing the system. Absolutely.

[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter Application Usage Guidelines, Please Read

2009-06-11 Thread Dossy Shiobara
On 6/11/09 3:52 PM, Nick Arnett wrote: I think you may not be considering legitimate automated systems that can quickly find a number of people who are discussing n emerging topic. My social network analysis does that - when it sees a topic becoming hot, it does some searches to see who is

[twitter-dev] status link not passing text to Mobile Safari

2009-06-11 Thread sinker
I have a very simple share on twitter button on my website. When clicked, it should pass both a link to the site and some text to the status box on Twitter.com. And, on the desktop, it does that just fine. But in Mobile Safari, while the link launches twitter.com nothing is passed to the status

[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter Developer/Founder Community on Ning - Registration Open

2009-06-11 Thread abrahamvegh
On Jun 11, 11:56 am, Caliban Darklock cdarkl...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 8:36 AM, Abraham Williams4bra...@gmail.com wrote: Hey! I have an idea! Lets have  tea party! In Boston! http://twitterdevteaparty.com/ :)

[twitter-dev] Re: API rate limit and as3

2009-06-11 Thread Matt Sanford
Hi there, A SWF-based app will use the viewer's IP address. A PHP script will use the servers IP address rather than the viewer's. Thanks; — Matt Sanford On Jun 11, 2009, at 11:46 AM, Germig wrote: Sorry for this noob-question. The search api is rate limited by IP adress. If the

[twitter-dev] Re: how are people collecting spritzer/gardenhose?

2009-06-11 Thread David Fisher
I'm just using a realtime json parser in Ruby written as a native C extension (http://github.com/brianmario/yajl-ruby/tree/master) It's really simple to use and well documented. I'm just storing everything in a Postgres database, and then using other scripts to query it. Note: using gardenhose

[twitter-dev] Re: Is the spritzer supposed to be as fast as the datamining feed?

2009-06-11 Thread David Fisher
Gardenhose is around what... 1.5M tweets/day? I think that's about right. Yes, that is a LOT of data and going through it then takes a lot. My server started crying a bit when I switched up to gardenhose. I'm going to have to get a bigger one if I ever can consume the firehose On Jun 11, 5:04 

[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter Developer/Founder Community on Ning - Registration Open

2009-06-11 Thread Dossy Shiobara
On 6/11/09 4:06 PM, Bradley S. O'Hearne wrote: Hint: why make an enemy out of a complete stranger, when you could instead speak (regardless of agreement / disagreement) with courtesy and make a friend, or a business associate. Just as easy to make a friend than an enemy. Actually, it's a lot

[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter Developer/Founder Community on Ning - Registration Open

2009-06-11 Thread Dossy Shiobara
On 6/11/09 5:58 PM, abrahamvegh wrote: On Jun 11, 11:56 am, Caliban Darklockcdarkl...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 8:36 AM, Abraham Williams4bra...@gmail.com wrote: Hey! I have an idea! Lets have tea party! In Boston! http://twitterdevteaparty.com/ :) EPIC lolz. you win

[twitter-dev] Re: New Public Streaming API Resource - Follow

2009-06-11 Thread John Kalucki
Each is granted individually. On Jun 11, 10:49 am, David Fisher tib...@gmail.com wrote: If I have Gardenhose access, do I automatically have access to Shadow or Birddog or do I need to send in a separate application/contract to gain access? Thanks, David On Jun 11, 12:09 pm, John

[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter Developer/Founder Community on Ning - Registration Open

2009-06-11 Thread Justyn Howard
The Moral of this story is that I posted something I thought would be helpful, something that people might find value in. There was no self- interest involved. I took the time to create something for other people to use. But some people would rather criticize, show thier web-flaming

[twitter-dev] Re: status link not passing text to Mobile Safari

2009-06-11 Thread Abraham Williams
The mobile version of twitter.com does not support auto filling the status field because of clickjacking issues. On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 16:55, sinker dansin...@gmail.com wrote: I have a very simple share on twitter button on my website. When clicked, it should pass both a link to the site

[twitter-dev] Re: status link not passing text to Mobile Safari

2009-06-11 Thread sinker
Thanks for that info. So how then to go about it in the most straightforward fashion? On Jun 11, 7:53 pm, Abraham Williams 4bra...@gmail.com wrote: The mobile version of twitter.com does not support auto filling the status field because of clickjacking issues. On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at

[twitter-dev] Re: PIN response in web-based OAuth app

2009-06-11 Thread Michael Twentyman
Verified... I redefined the method to exclude the oauth_callback default from being set and that returned the service to normal function. OAuth::Consumer.class_eval do def get_request_token(request_options = {}, *arguments) response = token_request(http_method, (request_token_url? ?