[twitter-dev] Re: Rate limit question (again/followup) 20k user or ip?

2009-08-11 Thread TFT Media
I believe sometimes the IP address can be user-based, even for white- listed IPs. E.G., if the user himself has a whitelisted IP. On Aug 10, 7:57 pm, Dewald Pretorius dpr...@gmail.com wrote: Jim, I don't know exactly what you're looking at and how you get to that answer. My system is

[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter Update, 8/10 noon PST

2009-08-11 Thread Chris Babcock
On Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:01:16 -0700 (PDT) hansamann sven.hai...@googlemail.com wrote: Can someone post a link to some online resources explaining more about geometric back-offs? Did a search, did not find a whole lot. Retry intervals grow in a geometric progression:

[twitter-dev] Re: Following Churn: Specific guidance needed

2009-08-11 Thread TFT Media
Come on. For its auto-follow, tweetlater.com specifically states: [w]e have limits in place to ensure that your daily following remains well within the limits imposed by Twitter. So you are presumably touching the rate limit then going back -1, -2, -3, or whatever. How is that different than

[twitter-dev] Twitter Update, 8/10 noon PST

2009-08-11 Thread Naveen Ayyagari
Just wanted to report that we are back up and running for the most part as well, BUT quite a number of our servers are still experiencing some BlackOut periods where twitter fails to respond and connections time out. They seem to last about 5-10 minutes each. We are running quite a few

[twitter-dev] Re: OAuth vs. Basic authentication strictly on iPhone

2009-08-11 Thread srikanth reddy
My thoughts OAuth wasn't meant for Desktop apps. Its for third party apps (consumers) who try to request a protected resource from a service provider on behalf of end users. Typically a consumer offers one kind of service and a service provider offers a different service. As you know the

[twitter-dev] Re: New Twist To Follow Terms Violations

2009-08-11 Thread TFT Media
The originating post is total speculation. If you think that bulk unfollowing is the sole culprit to suspensions, then you're not following Twitter closely enough. It takes two to tango. In this case, churn can correctly be described as the process of blind bulk/auto following and blind

[twitter-dev] Re: Invalid / used nonce

2009-08-11 Thread graceawalker
No, my nonce is definately new every time. Surely if there was something wrong with the way it was being generated it would error during requestToken/accessToken/VerifyCredentials too?? All the code ive looked through is doing it exactly the same way. Is the 'status' parameter being used just

[twitter-dev] Re: Python Twitter library (Tango) renamed to Twython

2009-08-11 Thread [CGM]sgxiao
how does it work now? On 8月3日, 下午1时21分, Ryan McGrath ryan.mcgra...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, I figured it's worth dropping a note here about a name change of aPythonlibrary I wrote to wrap Twitter'sAPI, as some people from this list took some interest in it when I first announced it. *shrug*

[twitter-dev] Re: Rate limit question (again/followup) 20k user or ip?

2009-08-11 Thread CaMason
Also, the 'reset-time' is increasing with every request. My reset time below was taken at 7:57 UTC: ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8? hash remaining-hits type=integer2/remaining-hits hourly-limit type=integer2/hourly-limit reset-time-in-seconds type=integer1249981041/reset-time-in-

[twitter-dev] 404 for statuses/user_timeline of non-existing users?

2009-08-11 Thread Carlo Zottmann
Hi there, I'm doing statuses/user_timeline requests via JS, and sometimes due to faulty user input, I query statuses/user_timeline for nonexisting users. The statuses/user_timeline API endpoint returns correct data (for example, `callbackFunction({request:\/statuses\/user_timeline\/

[twitter-dev] Re: Following Churn: Specific guidance needed

2009-08-11 Thread Dewald Pretorius
On Aug 11, 3:11 am, TFT Media tftmedia1...@gmail.com wrote: For its auto-follow, tweetlater.com specifically states: [w]e have limits in place to ensure that your daily following remains well within the limits imposed by Twitter.  So you are presumably touching the rate limit then going back

[twitter-dev] Re: Following Churn: Specific guidance needed

2009-08-11 Thread Dewald Pretorius
I follow a simple principle in TweetLater. Where Twitter rules are clearly spelled out, such as for spam, I give the users a hammer and caution them, Carefully read the rules because you can drive a nail into wood, but you can also smash your thumb to a pulp with this thing. Where Twitter rules

[twitter-dev] Re: I need a twitter this button for my website

2009-08-11 Thread Michael Paladino
The most common one I've seen used is tweetmeme. Check out http://tweetmeme.com/about/retweet_button for more details. -Original Message- From: twitter-development-talk@googlegroups.com [mailto:twitter-development-t...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of genshu Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009

[twitter-dev] Re: 404 for statuses/user_timeline of non-existing users?

2009-08-11 Thread David Fisher
Yep. In my experience calling a user that doesn't exist does yield a 404. You'll have to handle the errors on this. I guess 404 does make sense here, as the user is not found. dave On Aug 11, 5:40 am, Carlo Zottmann czottm...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there, I'm doing statuses/user_timeline

[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter Update, 8/9 noon PST

2009-08-11 Thread Dewald Pretorius
Ryan, I am now doing geometric backoffs on 502s and connection refuses. I did not do exact math, but I seem to be getting between 2 and 5 connection refuses and 502s (combined) per second, and 95%+ of those requests get a 200 OK at the first retry. I think it's really good performance given

[twitter-dev] Re: Following Churn: Specific guidance needed

2009-08-11 Thread David Fisher
IDOLPeeps, I feel you're being overly alarmist and haven't painted the situation properly. You can unfollow anyone you want. The issue is a quick follow and then unfollowing if not reciprocated. You're *supposed* to follow someone because you want to hear what they are saying, not because you

[twitter-dev] Re: Invalid / used nonce

2009-08-11 Thread graceawalker
Ive only been trying since friday...do you have any problems calling verifyCredentials or any other methods?? On Aug 10, 4:43 pm, Rob O'Brien r...@zepoid.com wrote: I'm getting the same response. All weekend, I chalked it up to being an issue during recovery of the systems, but I'm still

[twitter-dev] Re: I need a twitter this button for my website

2009-08-11 Thread mikiobraun
At least, it's pretty straightforward to have a link to the web interface with some text already pasted in. All people have to do then is to hit the update button. The advantage is that you don't need the user's login credentials... . For example, http://twitter.com/home?status=Your%20Text -M

[twitter-dev] Format of 'favorite status' URL

2009-08-11 Thread Mariusz
Hi I am making small Twitter client in Java. Currently I make option 'farourite status' and I have a strange problem. I always use format of url like this (for example for 'follow user'): http://twitter.com/friendships/create.json?id= It works well in almost all cases. However it doesn't

[twitter-dev] Re: Invalid / used nonce

2009-08-11 Thread Dan Borthwick
For our app, we successfully call request_token from our server. When we then call statuses/update from the client, we get a 401 'Invalid / used nonce' response. If the request_token call comes directly from the client, the update call succeeds. The nonces have been sanity checked and are

[twitter-dev] Re: Invalid / used nonce

2009-08-11 Thread Dan
We have also been seeing similar behaviour for our iPhone app based on MGTwitterEngine-1.0.8-OAuth. If we call request_token from the client followed by statuses/update, everything works ok. However, if we send the request_token from our server, then statuses/update from the client, a 401

[twitter-dev] Re: Following Churn: Specific guidance needed

2009-08-11 Thread Dewald Pretorius
David, For me it is not about regimes or dictatorships. For me it is about not giving users a tool when they cannot get any clear and authoritative guidance on safely using that tool. Some folks are charging them money for courses and ebooks that teach them how to do following churn, and they

[twitter-dev] Search API Limits lowered?

2009-08-11 Thread David Fisher
While i haven't done scientific testing of this, I was able to run up to 3-4 instances of my search script prior at a time before it told me to enhance my calm. Now I'm barely able to run one without hitting the limit. I can put delays in my code to slow it down, but I'm wondering if this is just

[twitter-dev] Re: OAuth vs. Basic authentication strictly on iPhone

2009-08-11 Thread Bradley S. O'Hearne
Srikanth, Thank you for your thoughts -- good ones. Responses: snip But what if the app was developed by some thirdparty devs? you never know whether the password is stored or logged some where. /snip I'm not sure who the third party is relative to -- if you are the user of an iPhone app,

[twitter-dev] Re: Search API Limits lowered?

2009-08-11 Thread Andrew Badera
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 10:30 AM, David Fishertib...@gmail.com wrote: While i haven't done scientific testing of this, I was able to run up to 3-4 instances of my search script prior at a time before it told me to enhance my calm. Now I'm barely able to run one without hitting the limit. I

[twitter-dev] Read-only application cannot POST - only sometimes...

2009-08-11 Thread Christian
Hi, we currently built a twitter client into our application, but we are having trouble to get this to work. The setup: - registered OAuth client - our app is registered as read and write - I think we added the oauth_access_type=write* We have been testing for a couple of days now. Now the

[twitter-dev] Re: Following Churn: Specific guidance needed

2009-08-11 Thread IDOLpeeps
I agree my comparison to dictatorships is a stretch, but I was in a poetic mood and trying to emphasize the point that clarity is better than ambiguity. Twitter is obviously doing a tremendous job dealing with their explosive growth and dynamic nature of this new medium they've created. That

[twitter-dev] Re: Following Churn: Specific guidance needed

2009-08-11 Thread Dewald Pretorius
On Aug 11, 11:48 am, IDOLpeeps belm...@grandcentralholdings.com wrote: Would be very helpful to know the definition of quick as relates to following churn suspensions. As Cameron pointed out earlier, as soon as they do that, the following churners will adjust their methods to be just inside

[twitter-dev] Firehose feed.

2009-08-11 Thread Paul
I'm developing a Twitter Directory that is saving tweets locally via a cron that's making authenticated calls to friends_timeline every 10 minutes. Ideally, I'd like to update the directory more frequently. Is there a way to get a firehose feed for a single account, or some other way to approach

[twitter-dev] Re: Following Churn: Specific guidance needed

2009-08-11 Thread Nick Arnett
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 8:31 PM, IDOLpeeps belm...@grandcentralholdings.com wrote: Lots of community members and developers are leaving Twitter because of what appears to them to be arbitrary suspension of accounts they've invested considerable time and good citizenship developing only to

[twitter-dev] Re: Firehose feed.

2009-08-11 Thread Paul Kinlan
You probably want either the follow streaming api or if you have a couple more users the shadow http://apiwiki.twitter.com/Streaming-API-Documentation#follow http://apiwiki.twitter.com/Streaming-API-Documentation#followshadow See birddog above. Allows following up to 50,000 users. URL:

[twitter-dev] Re: Invalid / used nonce

2009-08-11 Thread Zaudio
We're having the same issue in our app, occurs sporadically in our logs - but I believe the cause with us is that: We're generating nonce values as a timestamp seeded sequence of random numbers We're creating an instance of the Oauth class that does this for each logged in user for the app

[twitter-dev] Re: OAuth vs. Basic authentication strictly on iPhone

2009-08-11 Thread srikanth reddy
By third party i meant some one like 'TwitViewer' (some one who would pay and register their app in appstore and trick the users to believe in them but who do not work the way they were expected to ) You are still keying in your password within the app, in code that the developer of this

[twitter-dev] Re: Following Churn: Specific guidance needed

2009-08-11 Thread Alex Payne
An update on this thread: we have an inquiry out to our spam team to get more information about the metrics they use when policing mass-following/unfollowing. On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 15:12, IDOLpeeps belm...@grandcentralholdings.comwrote: Twitter recently started suspending accounts which bulk

[twitter-dev] Re: OAuth vs. Basic authentication strictly on iPhone

2009-08-11 Thread Alex Payne
For the case of a dedicated application on a rich mobile platform like iPhone, I agree that OAuth does not offer a particularly different user experience. It does, however, provide us at Twitter the information we need to provide detailed usage analytics back to developers, as well as the data we

[twitter-dev] Re: Format of 'favorite status' URL

2009-08-11 Thread Alex Payne
Even if passing id as a parameter works, it's not the documented behavior and isn't guaranteed to be supported indefinitely. Please specify IDs in-URL. On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 02:37, Mariusz mariusz...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I am making small Twitter client in Java. Currently I make option

[twitter-dev] Re: Search API Limits lowered?

2009-08-11 Thread David Fisher
The user agent for each search request is the same. I'm using the Ruby Twitter API wrapper, so sending anything else with search requests isn't possible unless that is now deprecated. dave On Aug 11, 10:36 am, Andrew Badera and...@badera.us wrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 10:30 AM, David

[twitter-dev] Re: External API Team App Test Site

2009-08-11 Thread Alex Payne
One of the projects on our list is a continuous testing system, running from a machine outside our cluster. We have the test suite built to do it, just not the production-safe fixture data. On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 10:20, Dewald Pretorius dpr...@gmail.com wrote: Does the API team have a test

[twitter-dev] Re: TwitterLand - Ruby wrapper for many Twitter-related APIs

2009-08-11 Thread Alex Payne
Very cool! Thanks much. I've added it to http://apiwiki.twitter.com/Libraries#Ruby On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 10:18, Wynn Netherland wynn.netherl...@gmail.comwrote: I'd like to thank those of you who have released your own APIs for the apps you've built on top of Twitter. If you're using Ruby,

[twitter-dev] Re: Following Churn: Specific guidance needed

2009-08-11 Thread owkaye
Would be very helpful to know the definition of quick as relates to following churn suspensions. As Cameron pointed out earlier, as soon as they do that, the following churners will adjust their methods to be just inside that definition of OK. This seems like a really short-sighted

[twitter-dev] Re: Following Churn: Specific guidance needed

2009-08-11 Thread Kevin Mesiab
This entire debate focuses on the wrong side of the coin. Follow churn exists as a side effect of the improper Twitter culture of reciprocating follows blindly. If users paid due diligence to those they follow and only followed those people who demonstrate some value to them, follower churn would

[twitter-dev] Re: Tweepy -- python library

2009-08-11 Thread Alex Payne
Thanks for your library, Josh! I've added it to http://apiwiki.twitter.com/Libraries#Python On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 09:50, Josh Roesslein jroessl...@gmail.com wrote: Hello twitter developers: Just posting here to announce a library for python I have been putting together. It supports pretty

[twitter-dev] Re: Following Churn: Specific guidance needed

2009-08-11 Thread Neil Ellis
And a 'X people blocked this person' next to their details in the follows notification would help to identify which are spammers. ATB Neil On 11 Aug 2009, at 18:55, Kevin Mesiab wrote: This entire debate focuses on the wrong side of the coin. Follow churn exists as a side effect of the

[twitter-dev] Re: Following Churn: Specific guidance needed

2009-08-11 Thread David Fisher
Follower churn wouldn't exist, but getting hundreds of spam emails (about being followed) would still exist. I've got over 12,000 emails in my inbox about being followed on Twitter. Dozens of those are from the same users. Some weeks the same users unfollow and refollow me nonstop to try to get

[twitter-dev] Re: Following Churn: Specific guidance needed

2009-08-11 Thread owkaye
If users paid due diligence to those they follow and only followed those people who demonstrate some value to them, follower churn would not exist. Period. Obviously they won't so maybe it's time to deal with reality rather than dreaming of a perfect world. Owkaye

[twitter-dev] Re: Following Churn: Specific guidance needed

2009-08-11 Thread Kevin Mesiab
And here lies the slippery slope. On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 8:25 AM, owkaye owk...@gmail.com wrote: If users paid due diligence to those they follow and only followed those people who demonstrate some value to them, follower churn would not exist. Period. Obviously they won't so maybe it's

[twitter-dev] Re: Following Churn: Specific guidance needed

2009-08-11 Thread Kevin Mesiab
Step 1.) turn off email notifications (legitimat, but easily mitigated problem).Step 2.) getting spammed? Unfollow that user (question why you followed them in the first place). On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 8:35 AM, Kevin Mesiab ke...@mesiablabs.com wrote: And here lies the slippery slope. On

[twitter-dev] Re: Following Churn: Specific guidance needed

2009-08-11 Thread Neil Ellis
And if followed by an obvious spammer should we not block them and then let Twitter make it clear to other users how many times they've blocked. A few black marks against a spammer and they won't get followed back anymore. This is like the feedback rating in ebay it encourages you to

[twitter-dev] Re: Search API Limits lowered?

2009-08-11 Thread Dewald Pretorius
David, I don't know Ruby, so I don't know if this is possible. But, if possible you need to edit your copy of the Twitter API wrapper and set the user agent to something that is unique to your service. If you use the same user agent as everyone else who are using that wrapper, then you are

[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter Update, 8/9 noon PST

2009-08-11 Thread Damon P. Cortesi
I appear to still be getting request timeouts on one of my servers. On Aug 9, 3:13 pm, Ryan Sarver rsar...@twitter.com wrote: *Finally* have what we hope is good news for everyone. As of about 10 minutes ago we have been able to restore critical parts of API operation that should have great

[twitter-dev] Timeouts and API Errors, Tuesday August 11th

2009-08-11 Thread Alex Payne
We're currently experiencing another wave of Distributed Denial of Service (DDoS) attacks against our system. Expect periodic slowness and errors until the attack passes or is countered by our operations team and hosting provider. Updates will be provided as we get them. Thanks for your patience.

[twitter-dev] Re: Timeouts and API Errors, Tuesday August 11th

2009-08-11 Thread Dewald Pretorius
I have a spare bazooka in my basement. Let me know. I can FedEx it to you. Dewald On Aug 11, 4:23 pm, Alex Payne a...@twitter.com wrote: We're currently experiencing another wave of Distributed Denial of Service (DDoS) attacks against our system. Expect periodic slowness and errors until the

[twitter-dev] Re: OAuth vs. Basic authentication strictly on iPhone

2009-08-11 Thread Bradley S. O'Hearne
Srikanth, By third party i meant some one like 'TwitViewer' (some one who would pay and register their app in appstore and trick the users to believe in them but who do not work the way they were expected to ) That's not a valid use case for faulting the authentication mechanism. The

[twitter-dev] Re: Search API Limits lowered?

2009-08-11 Thread Yu-Shan Fung
Hi Dave, I'm not sure which twitter wrapper you are using. But if you're using Dan Croak's from here: http://github.com/dancroak/twitter-search You might need to update your gem, and make sure you specify the name of your app as the agent instead of using the default twitter-search. Yu-Shan

[twitter-dev] Re: Following Churn: Specific guidance needed

2009-08-11 Thread Cameron Kaiser
Would be very helpful to know the definition of quick as relates to following churn suspensions. As Cameron pointed out earlier, as soon as they do that, the following churners will adjust their methods to be just inside that definition of OK. This seems like a really

[twitter-dev] Re: OAuth vs. Basic authentication strictly on iPhone

2009-08-11 Thread JDG
Why would it be hosted in your app? Why can't you open Safari? On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 13:29, Bradley S. O'Hearne brad.ohea...@gmail.comwrote: Srikanth, By third party i meant some one like 'TwitViewer' (some one who would pay and register their app in appstore and trick the users to

[twitter-dev] Re: Following Churn: Specific guidance needed

2009-08-11 Thread TFT Media
I never said that your system does unfollow. I point out that tweetlater does bulk auto follow and bulk auto return follow, and you do so using Twitter's follow limits as a guidepost. That's fine. But I thought it a bit funny how you then write Amen when someone said that if Twitter published

[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter Update, 8/9 noon PST

2009-08-11 Thread Ryan Sarver
Thanks for the update Dewald. Keep us posted if things change. Best, Ryan On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 6:26 AM, Dewald Pretoriusdpr...@gmail.com wrote: Ryan, I am now doing geometric backoffs on 502s and connection refuses. I did not do exact math, but I seem to be getting between 2 and 5

[twitter-dev] Re: Search API Limits lowered?

2009-08-11 Thread Larry Wright
In addition to setting a unique user-agent, I believe it was requested that we set a referrer header that pointed back to a domain. On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 9:30 AM, David Fisher tib...@gmail.com wrote: While i haven't done scientific testing of this, I was able to run up to 3-4 instances of

[twitter-dev] Re: Timeouts and API Errors, Tuesday August 11th

2009-08-11 Thread Alex Payne
Our operations staff has informed me that the attack ceased several minutes ago. Site performance should be returning to normal. On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 12:23, Alex Payne a...@twitter.com wrote: We're currently experiencing another wave of Distributed Denial of Service (DDoS) attacks against

[twitter-dev] Re: Following Churn: Specific guidance needed

2009-08-11 Thread Dewald Pretorius
I have no problems debating with you, if you can keep your facts straight. Or rather, if you bother getting the facts in the first place. Dewald On Aug 11, 2:09 pm, TFT Media tftmedia1...@gmail.com wrote: I never said that your system does unfollow.  I point out that tweetlater does bulk auto

[twitter-dev] Re: Tweepy -- python library

2009-08-11 Thread Ryan Sarver
Awesome work Josh. Thanks for posting this out to everyone and I especially like the Streaming API support. Best, Ryan On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 9:50 AM, Josh Roessleinjroessl...@gmail.com wrote: Hello twitter developers: Just posting here to announce a library for python I have been putting

[twitter-dev] Re: Search API Limits lowered?

2009-08-11 Thread Chad Etzel
The referrer is not as important as the user-agent. You can also put your URL in the user-agent instead. -Chad On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Larry Wrightlarrywri...@gmail.com wrote: In addition to setting a unique user-agent, I believe it was requested that we set a referrer header that

[twitter-dev] Re: Tweepy -- python library

2009-08-11 Thread Josh Roesslein
Thanks Alex for getting that added to the wiki. Ryan, thank you for the kind words glad you like it The streaming API is pretty cool and it was a top priority for me to include it. On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 3:13 PM, Ryan Sarver rsar...@twitter.com wrote: Awesome work Josh. Thanks for posting

[twitter-dev] Re: Timeouts and API Errors, Tuesday August 11th

2009-08-11 Thread Tim Haines
I'm so happy gmail has a star feature, that deserved one. Tim. On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 7:28 AM, Dewald Pretoriusdpr...@gmail.com wrote: I have a spare bazooka in my basement. Let me know. I can FedEx it to you. Dewald On Aug 11, 4:23 pm, Alex Payne a...@twitter.com wrote: We're

[twitter-dev] How to develop flash widget with oauth

2009-08-11 Thread guytom
Hi, We're trying to figure out what's the recommended way to implement a widget (flash) with oauth. We actually already implemented it but just before we finished testing it broke with the latest changes. Now the questions are: 1. Would such an application be considered web or desktop. 2. Can

[twitter-dev] Re: Timeouts and API Errors, Tuesday August 11th

2009-08-11 Thread Andrew Badera
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 4:11 PM, Alex Paynea...@twitter.com wrote: Our operations staff has informed me that the attack ceased several minutes ago. Site performance should be returning to normal. On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 12:23, Alex Payne a...@twitter.com wrote: We're currently experiencing

[twitter-dev] Re: Following Churn: Specific guidance needed

2009-08-11 Thread owkaye
Owkaye Would be very helpful to know the definition of quick as relates to following churn suspensions. As Cameron pointed out earlier, as soon as they do that, the following churners will adjust their methods to be just inside that definition of OK. This seems like

[twitter-dev] created_at format

2009-08-11 Thread Jonas
I am using search.json and track.json and I noticed that the date format for created_at is different. search.json: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 20:23:36 + track.json: Tue Aug 11 20:23:36 + 2009 Is there a reason why Twitter uses different formats for the same information? Is there any interest in

[twitter-dev] Re: Tweepy -- python library

2009-08-11 Thread Terry Jones
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 9:50 AM, Josh Roessleinjroessl...@gmail.com wrote: Hello twitter developers: Hi Josh That's great, it looks very clean. I'll give it a try soon. BTW, you raise NotImplemented in (at least) cache.py. That should instead be raise NotImplementedError. Terry

[twitter-dev] Re: created_at format

2009-08-11 Thread Alex Payne
We do intend to move to unified format. This inconsistency is the result of the Search system being developed independently of Twitter before it was acquired. On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 13:33, Jonas boxnumbe...@gmail.com wrote: I am using search.json and track.json and I noticed that the date

[twitter-dev] RateLimit Calculation

2009-08-11 Thread shiplu
Hello, I need to be clear on something. Scenario 1: Suppose We have a twitter app where 1 user logs in everyday. And we have 1 whitelisted IP address. So If each user sends 3 tweets/hours, It will be over(3) the whitlisted IP rate limit, which is 2. In this case, we need to use extra

[twitter-dev] Re: Timeouts and API Errors, Tuesday August 11th

2009-08-11 Thread Dewald Pretorius
My guess is it's still ongoing. I'm seeing far more rejections per second, and the number of backed-off retries have also increased. Dewald On Aug 11, 5:37 pm, Andrew Badera and...@badera.us wrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 4:11 PM, Alex Paynea...@twitter.com wrote: Our operations staff has

[twitter-dev] Seeing same login issues right now as when DDoD happened

2009-08-11 Thread Sean Callahan
I've tried logging into a handful of sites built around the Twitter API without success. I'm seeing the same login issues right now as when the DDoD happened. Twitter is aware of the downtime issue on their status page, http://status.twitter.com, but are they aware of the API issues (e.g., being

[twitter-dev] Re: Tweepy -- python library

2009-08-11 Thread Josh Roesslein
Thanks Terry for catching that mistake. I'll get that fixed and pushed out ASAP. Josh On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 3:48 PM, Terry Jones te...@jon.es wrote: On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 9:50 AM, Josh Roessleinjroessl...@gmail.com wrote: Hello twitter developers: Hi Josh That's great, it looks

[twitter-dev] Re: RateLimit Calculation

2009-08-11 Thread Dewald Pretorius
On Aug 11, 5:53 pm, shiplu shiplu@gmail.com wrote: Scenario 1: No, you don't. Status updates are POSTs, which do not count against your 20,000 rate limit. Dewald

[twitter-dev] Re: Timeouts and API Errors, Tuesday August 11th

2009-08-11 Thread Alex Payne
Yes, I've just been informed that the attack has resumed, and that our service provider is putting network hardware in place to counter the attack. We're trying to work with them to ensure minimal impact to the API, but in the near term there may be issues with OAuth and the Streaming API. This is

[twitter-dev] Re: Timeouts and API Errors, Tuesday August 11th

2009-08-11 Thread Sean Callahan
Alex, Did not see this post and posted a new message. Still receiving lots of errors and no one can login on our site, tweetphoto.com, right now along with a handful of others (that I've tried myself). Just wanted to give you a heads up. Thanks! Sean On Aug 11, 1:11 pm, Alex Payne

[twitter-dev] Re: Seeing same login issues right now as when DDoD happened

2009-08-11 Thread Alex Payne
Please see the other thread in this group. On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 13:55, Sean Callahan seancalla...@gmail.com wrote: I've tried logging into a handful of sites built around the Twitter API without success. I'm seeing the same login issues right now as when the DDoD happened. Twitter is

[twitter-dev] Re: Timeouts and API Errors, Tuesday August 11th

2009-08-11 Thread Alex Payne
We're aware of these issues; sorry. Our ops team tells me that the countermeasures that are being put in place should not cause the 302 redirect behavior that impacted OAuth and other services late last week. If you're seeing that behavior, please post here and we'll coordinate with them to

[twitter-dev] Re: RateLimit Calculation

2009-08-11 Thread shiplu
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 3:57 AM, Dewald Pretoriusdpr...@gmail.com wrote: On Aug 11, 5:53 pm, shiplu shiplu@gmail.com wrote: Scenario 1: No, you don't. Status updates are POSTs, which do not count against your 20,000 rate limit. Dewald Oops! Basic Mistake! But what about I am talking

[twitter-dev] Re: Timeouts and API Errors, Tuesday August 11th

2009-08-11 Thread Ryan Sarver
Also, please be sure to provide packet dumps and full headers where possible so we can more easily determine the source of the issue. Thanks, Ryan On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 2:00 PM, Alex Paynea...@twitter.com wrote: We're aware of these issues; sorry. Our ops team tells me that the

[twitter-dev] Re: Timeouts and API Errors, Tuesday August 11th

2009-08-11 Thread Andrew Badera
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 5:01 PM, Andrew Baderaand...@badera.us wrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 4:57 PM, Alex Paynea...@twitter.com wrote: Yes, I've just been informed that the attack has resumed, and that our service provider is putting network hardware in place to counter the attack. We're

[twitter-dev] Re: Search API Limits lowered?

2009-08-11 Thread David Fisher
I don't have a domain to point back to. I'm doing data-mining and analysis on a server that isn't public. I have set the User-Agent to something unique (I thought you were saying to change it for every request?). Yet I'm still getting rate limited and told to back off a lot. Ryan S said it might

[twitter-dev] Re: Timeouts and API Errors, Tuesday August 11th

2009-08-11 Thread Alex Payne
Just found out that our hosting provider put some hardware in place that may cause disruptions. Our operations team just spoke them, and they should be taking it down in 15 - 30 minutes. On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 14:03, Andrew Badera and...@badera.us wrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 5:01 PM,

[twitter-dev] Re: OAuth vs. Basic authentication strictly on iPhone

2009-08-11 Thread Bradley S. O'Hearne
JDG, Why would it be hosted in your app? Why can't you open Safari? The ideal usage pattern in an application is not to leave the application. Opening Safari requires exiting the current application. Opening a UIWebView within your application is the way to go. Brad On Aug 11, 2009, at

[twitter-dev] Re: Timeouts and API Errors, Tuesday August 11th

2009-08-11 Thread Dewald Pretorius
For me the API behavior is now back again to this morning, with around 2 to 5 rejections per second, and most being successful on the first or second backed-off retry. Dewald On Aug 11, 6:22 pm, Alex Payne a...@twitter.com wrote: Just found out that our hosting provider put some hardware in

[twitter-dev] Re: PubSubHubbub and Twitter RSS

2009-08-11 Thread John Kalucki
Persistent connections for notifications certainly allay my fears around latency and throughput for well-behaved hubs. I don't see any real cost savings, other than some minor bandwidth savings on the fan-out. We'd incur significant development cost to support this alternative approach, as we've

[twitter-dev] Re: RateLimit Calculation

2009-08-11 Thread Julio Biason
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 7:01 AM, shiplushiplu@gmail.com wrote: Oops! Basic Mistake! But what about I am talking about GET requests. If you're doing a GET 3 times every hour, then it would be better not use a whitelisted IP. This way, the rate limit will count to each user, not the IP

[twitter-dev] Re: OAuth vs. Basic authentication strictly on iPhone

2009-08-11 Thread Isaiah
Why would it be hosted in your app? Why can't you open Safari? Obviously Safari is *more* trusted. But if you've already installed an untrusted app onto your machine, the untrusted app has enough power to keylog, brute force your keychain (or other password db), send personal info over

[twitter-dev] Re: PubSubHubbub and Twitter RSS

2009-08-11 Thread John Kalucki
I want to believe! If there are compelling arguments, we'll consider this deeply. So far I'm still unconvinced. The Streaming API is built only on open standards: HTTP, XML, JSON. Anyone can build a Streaming API client in a few hours of work using well worn libraries and techniques. (Only a

[twitter-dev] Re: RateLimit Calculation

2009-08-11 Thread shiplu
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 6:41 AM, Julio Biasonjulio.bia...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 7:01 AM, shiplushiplu@gmail.com wrote: Oops! Basic Mistake! But what about I am talking about GET requests. If you're doing a GET 3 times every hour, then it would be better not use a

[twitter-dev] php curl api calls no returns about 90% of the time

2009-08-11 Thread freefall
It's quite impressive but I get nothing back from most of the curl api request I make to twitter. Fully whitelisted on ip, lots of ratelimit spare, total failures from twitter all the time. A new favourite appeared today from a http://twitter.com/friends/ids/accountname.xml get: ?xml

[twitter-dev] Re: php curl api calls no returns about 90% of the time

2009-08-11 Thread Alex Payne
If you include the full headers in your response output, that would be helpful in tracking this down. On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 17:17, freefall tehgame...@googlemail.com wrote: It's quite impressive but I get nothing back from most of the curl api request I make to twitter. Fully whitelisted on

[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter Update, 8/10 noon PST

2009-08-11 Thread jim.renkel
Geometric backoffs are more generally know as exponential backoffs. If ya google that, ya get a couple of useful and interesting things: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exponential_backoff http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truncated_binary_exponential_backoff

[twitter-dev] Re: FW: Twitter is Suing me!!!

2009-08-11 Thread Cameron Kaiser
Could we please not quote the *entire* *original* *message* with every reply? -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- They told me I was gullible ... and I believed them.

[twitter-dev] Re: FW: Twitter is Suing me!!!

2009-08-11 Thread Neil Ellis
Sorry Cameron :-) it's just so easy to hit that button :-) peace Neil On 12 Aug 2009, at 04:02, Cameron Kaiser wrote: Could we please not quote the *entire* *original* *message* with every reply? -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ --

[twitter-dev] Re: FW: Twitter is Suing me!!!

2009-08-11 Thread Kevin Mesiab
The same TOS that applies to users applies to developers, along with this one: http://apiwiki.twitter.com/Terms-of-Service http://apiwiki.twitter.com/Terms-of-ServiceIf you haven't already, I encourage all developers to familiarize themselves with both. You may also, now, find more value in

[twitter-dev] Re: RateLimit Calculation

2009-08-11 Thread jim.renkel
As I've pointed out in other posts to this group, and I will be the first to acknowledge that there are conflicting opinions and facts on this, it is my understanding and experience that for GET requests that require authorization the rate limit is per user per IP address: -If *EITHER* the

[twitter-dev] Re: FW: Twitter is Suing me!!!

2009-08-11 Thread JDG
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 20:48, Dean Collins d...@cognation.net wrote: Any other developer being sued by Twitter today? I might be. Oh wait, no, I'm not, because I know the difference between a lawsuit and a cease and desist letter that enumerates all the things I'm doing that violates

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