[twitter-dev] Re: Get user email?

2009-08-12 Thread Josh Roesslein
The API does not provide access to viewing an user's email. You may update the users email if you wish via http://twitter.com/account/update_profile [1] Josh [1] http://apiwiki.twitter.com/Twitter-REST-API-Method%3A-account%C2%A0update_profile On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 12:04 AM, Almir Karic

[twitter-dev] Re: Following Churn: Specific guidance needed

2009-08-12 Thread Kevin Mesiab
Well said Shannon. -- Kevin Mesiab CEO, Mesiab Labs L.L.C. http://twitter.com/kmesiab http://mesiablabs.com http://retweet.com

[twitter-dev] Re: FW: Twitter is Suing me!!!

2009-08-12 Thread Goblin
I got a letter from a UK law firm too regarding www.twitlonger.com (which clearly doesn't use the word Twitter). They weren't too draconian in their claims. They want a disclaimer put on the site (fair enough) and for me to stop using the little blue birds (again, fair enough. This is what

[twitter-dev] Re: OAuth vs. Basic authentication strictly on iPhone

2009-08-12 Thread srikanth reddy
if you choose to run a rogue executable on your computer, it isn't the computer's fault for running it. It is the user's fault for running the executable. Exactly. It is the users fault. If all third party apps are forced to implement OAuth it would save users from this fault to some

[twitter-dev] Problem with URL format of 'favorites/create'.

2009-08-12 Thread Mariusz
Hi I am making small Twitter client in Java. Currently I make option 'farorite status' and I have a strange problem. I always use format of url like this (for example for 'follow user'): http://twitter.com/friendships/create.json?id= It works well in almost all cases. However it doesn't

[twitter-dev] how to use sessions/present

2009-08-12 Thread jirgn
i wanted to use the undocumented api-call http://twitter.com/sessions/present.json, but can´t figure out how to do it the right way. When calling this function via browser everything is allright and i get the correct result. Doing the same thing via my php backend, i always get 'false' - the

[twitter-dev] Re: how to use sessions/present

2009-08-12 Thread Abraham Williams
You can't do it from your PHP backend because your server does not have the open session with Twitter as the user. I think you are going to have to make it using JavaScript and a callback method. Abraham 2009/8/12 jirgn jirg...@googlemail.com i wanted to use the undocumented api-call

[twitter-dev] Re: System clock must be correctly set when requesting request token

2009-08-12 Thread Dheepak
http://www.linuxsa.org.au/tips/time.html On Jul 13, 3:53 pm, Hedley Robertson hedley.robert...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, this was a bit of a tricky one to figure out, one of our developers was having an issue where he would always get a 401 unauthorized from Twitter when requesting a request

[twitter-dev] Re: FW: Twitter is Suing me!!!

2009-08-12 Thread Rich
Except Twitter is encouraging the use of the word Tweet in applications, but not their brand name, Twitter. Perfectly acceptable in my personal opinion. On Aug 12, 5:13 am, jim.renkel james.ren...@gmail.com wrote: BTW, twitter is trademarking tweet as well as twitter. You have been warned!

[twitter-dev] Re: FW: Twitter is Suing me!!!

2009-08-12 Thread Andrew Badera
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 11:12 PM, Jeremy Darlingjeremy.darl...@gmail.com wrote: Funny thing about trademarking a name and trying to utilize that trademark against a URL, can't be done.  If so, MicroSoft would have nailed people left and right for infringement upon IE (can we say IE7.com and

[twitter-dev] Re: FW: Twitter is Suing me!!!

2009-08-12 Thread Andrew Badera
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 5:23 AM, Richrhyl...@gmail.com wrote: Except Twitter is encouraging the use of the word Tweet in applications, but not their brand name, Twitter. Perfectly acceptable in my personal opinion. On Aug 12, 5:13 am, jim.renkel james.ren...@gmail.com wrote: BTW, twitter

[twitter-dev] New service use Twitter oauth YouSticker.com

2009-08-12 Thread Evgeny
U can comments everything and everywhere on the web. Just left sticker :) http://yousticker.com Small intro video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsFJ2tK5XAcfeature=player_embedded and service can make crossposting in Twitter

[twitter-dev] Re: FW: Twitter is Suing me!!!

2009-08-12 Thread Rich
I'm not aware of this but this link http://blog.twitter.com/2009/07/may-tweets-be-with-you.html, published only last month says We have applied to trademark Tweet because it is clearly attached to Twitter from a brand perspective but we have no intention of going after the wonderful

[twitter-dev] Re: FW: Twitter is Suing me!!!

2009-08-12 Thread Andrew Badera
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 5:52 AM, Richrhyl...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not aware of this but this link http://blog.twitter.com/2009/07/may-tweets-be-with-you.html, published only last month says We have applied to trademark Tweet because it is clearly attached to Twitter from a brand

[twitter-dev] Re: Newbie to seek advice on the flow of a twitter app with OAuth

2009-08-12 Thread Andrew Badera
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 1:44 AM, jaikejai...@gmail.com wrote: Andrew, I can't seem to get this working and wanted to see if you would be able to shed some light... thx in my main index i created a variable: (i tried with both of these) $callback_url

[twitter-dev] Re: FW: Twitter is Suing me!!!

2009-08-12 Thread Goblin
The question is, are they going to be going after Twitteriffic, Twitterholic, Twitpic, Twitvid, Twittelator, Twitterena, Twitterfon, iTwitter etc? I admit that I was fair game having the blue birds in the backdrop (as I say, it was a stupid project that got traction and the new version is live

[twitter-dev] Re: FW: Twitter is Suing me!!!

2009-08-12 Thread Dale Merritt
What is Twitters real stance on auto following? In there API they prohibit mass following so what does that mean exactly. More than 1, 100? In my app, I had planned on integrating some meaniful auto following Dale On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 4:55 AM, Goblin stu...@abovetheinternet.org wrote: The

[twitter-dev] Re: FW: Twitter is Suing me!!!

2009-08-12 Thread Vision Jinx
FYI - mashable.com just posted a story on this here http://mashable.com/2009/08/12/twitter-not-suing-developer/ Interesting to know that if Twitter gets the trademark for Tweet also what about the apps and businesses that have been using it before the claim like TweetDeck etc etc? Seems they

[twitter-dev] Re: OAuth vs. Basic authentication strictly on iPhone

2009-08-12 Thread Cameron Kaiser
I am not aware of UIWebView and have no idea of what it does. It is, essentially, a browser object. -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- I can't complain, but

[twitter-dev] Re: FW: Twitter is Suing me!!!

2009-08-12 Thread Dale Merritt
The trademark app for Tweet could be disputed. There is a window of time in the trademark office proceedings that you can do this. I think its 60 days after the mark has been approved for publication, prior to the official registration is approved. Any app w/ Tweet in their name might band

[twitter-dev] Re: FW: Twitter is Suing me!!!

2009-08-12 Thread Dewald Pretorius
Logically, isn't it necessary that a clear and unambiguous definition of aggressive following to be publicly available before any legal action can be based on it? Just asking. Dewald

[twitter-dev] Re: FW: Twitter is Suing me!!!

2009-08-12 Thread JDG
As has been stated ad nauseum, Twitter would have a very hard time initiating legal proceedings simply because you violated the TOS. They could suspend your account, sure, but they're a private company. They could suspend your account because they didn't like the color of your shirt. On Wed, Aug

[twitter-dev] Re: FW: Twitter is Suing me!!!

2009-08-12 Thread Andrew Badera
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 9:04 AM, Dewald Pretoriusdpr...@gmail.com wrote: Logically, isn't it necessary that a clear and unambiguous definition of aggressive following to be publicly available before any legal action can be based on it? Just asking. Dewald The decision in any legal

[twitter-dev] Re: FW: Twitter is Suing me!!!

2009-08-12 Thread Duane Roelands
You're not being sued. That's a cease-and-desist letter. You're violating Twitter's trademark by selling a product with Twitter in the name. The legal precedents for this are ironclad. You can't do it. You're violating Twitters terms of service by offering a program that auto-follows

[twitter-dev] Re: FW: Twitter is Suing me!!!

2009-08-12 Thread Bill Kocik
On Aug 12, 12:27 am, Jeremy Darling jeremy.darl...@gmail.com wrote: Seems lil twitter grew up and found lawyers.  While I don't agree or like the product that Dean sells, I dis-agree more with the misuse of legal representation by a corporation even more.  I remember when MS started this

[twitter-dev] Re: FW: Twitter is Suing me!!!

2009-08-12 Thread Larry Wright
I'm not expressing an opinion on this one way or the other, but what a lot of people don't realize about US trademark law is this: Twitter doesn't have a choice in this matter. They are *required* to actively defend their trademark, or they will lose it. This is how the law works, and it's

[twitter-dev] Re: FW: Twitter is Suing me!!!

2009-08-12 Thread Dewald Pretorius
Andy, One would hope that a judge would not even hear a case that said, Defendent violated terms that he had no way of knowing exactly when and how he violated those terms. Suspending accounts based on what is a nebulous concept to the public is one thing. Even though it may not be good PR, it

[twitter-dev] Re: FW: Twitter is Suing me!!!

2009-08-12 Thread Andrew Badera
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Dewald Pretoriusdpr...@gmail.com wrote: Andy, One would hope that a judge would not even hear a case that said, Defendent violated terms that he had no way of knowing exactly when and how he violated those terms. Suspending accounts based on what is a

[twitter-dev] Re: FW: Twitter is Suing me!!!

2009-08-12 Thread David Fisher
The OP should have first gotten a lawyer to look over it, instead of freaking out hysterically here. He's not being sued. Twitter does own the name Twitter and can selectively choose to sue/CD (or not sue) anyone they like who infringes on it. You defense being other people have registered the

[twitter-dev] Re: FW: Twitter is Suing me!!!

2009-08-12 Thread Dewald Pretorius
Just thinking, I cannot recall ever having seen in the Twitter TOS where it says that it is a violation of their TOS to assist or enable others to violate their TOS. It is probably just an oversight, and it's something that should be in a Developer TOS. But, even if they did that, they would be

[twitter-dev] Re: FW: Twitter is Suing me!!!

2009-08-12 Thread Andrew Badera
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 9:43 AM, Dewald Pretoriusdpr...@gmail.com wrote: Just thinking, I cannot recall ever having seen in the Twitter TOS where it says that it is a violation of their TOS to assist or enable others to violate their TOS. It is probably just an oversight, and it's something

[twitter-dev] Re: FW: Twitter is Suing me!!!

2009-08-12 Thread Rich
As I've already said above, quoted from Twitter, they are doing it to protect their brand but are not interested in stopping people using Tweet, in fact they are actively encouraging it! On Aug 12, 1:53 pm, Dale Merritt mogul...@gmail.com wrote: The trademark app for Tweet could be disputed.

[twitter-dev] Re: FW: Twitter is Suing me!!!

2009-08-12 Thread Andrew Badera
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Bill Kocikbko...@gmail.com wrote: On Aug 12, 9:07 am, Duane Roelands duane.roela...@gmail.com wrote: It doesn't matter who else is doing it. Well, actually, it does matter. That's the thing about trademarks - you are obligated to defend them across the

[twitter-dev] Re: FW: Twitter is Suing me!!!

2009-08-12 Thread Jeremy Darling
Actually, I recall it perfectly well. MS threatened action against Mike Roe (a Canadian student as I recall) for his development company. The case was settled OUT OF COURT, with MS basically having to purchase his domain. The same could be applied to this product where Twitter can not demand

[twitter-dev] Re: FW: Twitter is Suing me!!!

2009-08-12 Thread Dean Collins
So has anyone heard from or know any of the other developers? Did they also get an email last night? twittercounter.com twitterfall.com twitter-friends.com www.twitter.ca www.tinytwitter.com www.twitterbuttons.com www.accessibletwitter.com twitterfeed.com twitterpatterns.com

[twitter-dev] Re: FW: Twitter is Suing me!!!

2009-08-12 Thread Dewald Pretorius
Now, with that kind of clause in a Developer TOS, would it mean applications will need to actively prevent users from violating Twitter TOS? For example, would Tweetie and TweetDeck then be in violation if they did not prevent users from: a) Publishing the same tweet text more than once in

[twitter-dev] Re: FW: Twitter is Suing me!!!

2009-08-12 Thread Neil Ellis
Seriously Dean I'm afraid that your application (like a mass mailer) is the kind of the thing that spammers use to fill up our followers list with a bunch of real estate agents and 'social media experts'. Mass following actually harms the community on Twitter which is the reason that you

[twitter-dev] Re: FW: Twitter is Suing me!!!

2009-08-12 Thread Duane Roelands
Are any of these developers -selling- their products? You are. Are any of these developers violating the Terms of Service? You are. Just because another website has Twitter in the name doesn't make their situation the same as yours. You made a tool for spammers. You get caught. Get over it.

Auto-following (WAS: [twitter-dev] Re: FW: Twitter is Suing me!!!)

2009-08-12 Thread Chris Babcock
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 05:17:27 -0700 Dale Merritt mogul...@gmail.com wrote: What is Twitters real stance on auto following? In there API they prohibit mass following so what does that mean exactly. More than 1, 100? In my app, I had planned on integrating some meaniful auto following I'm

[twitter-dev] Re: FW: Twitter is Suing me!!!

2009-08-12 Thread Rich
and I'm certain the reason for adding the Twitter name violation in there in addition to all the others is that they don't want their name associated with, what is effectively a Web 2.0 spamming operation. On Aug 12, 3:55 pm, Duane Roelands duane.roela...@gmail.com wrote: Are any of these

[twitter-dev] Re: FW: Twitter is Suing me!!!

2009-08-12 Thread Dean Collins
Hi Neil So i guess what Fenwick and Webb are saying is if i manually log into twitter and click to follow each of the people who just wrote about my application thats ok http://search.twitter.com/search?q=mytwitterbutler http://search.twitter.com/search?q=mytwitterbutler BUT if i use

[twitter-dev] 401 Unauthorized...

2009-08-12 Thread AccountingSoftwareGuy
Is Twitter still blocking posts to the API from non-white listed apps? Since the DDOS attack we can't seem to send any posts through the API using oAuth. Nothing in our code has changed but all was working prior to the attack. Is anyone out there havine any success sending messages with oauth

[twitter-dev] Re: 401 Unauthorized...

2009-08-12 Thread Duane Roelands
I'm seeing some app problems this morning as well. Attempting to retrieve the timeline for the authenticated user returns no statuses. On Aug 12, 11:08 am, AccountingSoftwareGuy virga.rob...@gmail.com wrote: Is Twitter still blocking posts to the API from non-white listed apps?  Since the

[twitter-dev] Trademark infringement

2009-08-12 Thread Nick Arnett
In case anybody wants some decent facts on this issue, Wikipedia has a pretty good article. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trademark_infringement I'm not a lawyer, but I published a book on IP for developers a number of years ago and learned a lot in the process. In the end, it is extraordinarily

[twitter-dev] Re: FW: Twitter is Suing me!!!

2009-08-12 Thread Charles
Has nothing to do with anything. Enforce your trademark evenly or don't enforce it at all. Selective enforcement is not allowed. On Aug 12, 10:57 am, Rich rhyl...@gmail.com wrote: and I'm certain the reason for adding the Twitter name violation in there in addition to all the others is that

[twitter-dev] Re: FW: Twitter is Suing me!!!

2009-08-12 Thread Charles
I love how in this discussion people keep trying to bring emotion and personal beliefs into a legal context. So he made a tool for spammers. What does that have to do with anything? First they came for the Spammers and I didn’t speak up, because I wasn’t a Spammer. There are two LEGAL issues

[twitter-dev] Re: FW: Twitter is Suing me!!!

2009-08-12 Thread Neil Ellis
First they came for the Spammers and I didn’t speak up, because I wasn’t a Spammer. Oh really, spammers being banned equated to the Holocuast, perspective required. On Aug 12, 10:55 am, Duane Roelands duane.roela...@gmail.com wrote: Are any of these developers -selling- their

[twitter-dev] Re: Trademark infringement

2009-08-12 Thread David Fisher
My guess is that Twitter will hold both Tweet and Twitter as IP, but allow general use of Tweet. It seems to really make sense to defend the name of their company always, and Tweet only when it is misused. -dave On Aug 12, 11:43 am, Dewald Pretorius dpr...@gmail.com wrote: Nick,

[twitter-dev] Re: Trademark infringement

2009-08-12 Thread Andrew Badera
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 12:01 PM, David Fishertib...@gmail.com wrote: My guess is that Twitter will hold both Tweet and Twitter as IP, but allow general use of Tweet. It seems to really make sense to defend the name of their company always, and Tweet only when it is misused. -dave Twitter

[twitter-dev] Re: Trademark infringement

2009-08-12 Thread Dewald Pretorius
Nick, TweetLater.com has been using tweet as a verb since April 2008. Dewald On Aug 12, 12:21 pm, Nick Arnett nick.arn...@gmail.com wrote: In case anybody wants some decent facts on this issue, Wikipedia has a pretty good article. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trademark_infringement I'm

[twitter-dev] Re: FW: Twitter is Suing me!!!

2009-08-12 Thread Neil Ellis
I pity the fool who wakes up to this thread in the morning :-)

[twitter-dev] Re: FW: Twitter is Suing me!!!

2009-08-12 Thread Dossy Shiobara
On 8/12/09 10:14 AM, Dean Collins wrote: So has anyone heard from or know any of the other developers? Did they also get an email last night? IANAL, but, I think the horse has already left the barn for Twitter. Unless someone is building a short-message service called Twitter it's hard to

[twitter-dev] Re: FW: Twitter is Suing me!!!

2009-08-12 Thread Neil Ellis
Hi Dean Well yes. It's like saying if I send one email that's okay but if I bulk email 100 people then it's regarded as wrong. Yes I'm afraid it is. You see from a users point of view, receiving lots of follower notifications from people who aren't interested in you drowns out the

[twitter-dev] Re: FW: Twitter is Suing me!!!

2009-08-12 Thread Goblin
Here's a thought, if Twitter has allowed a specific site to have their application name added to the posted from list, is that tacit permission to use the name? They've been happy to show messages as posted from Twitteriffic, which uses their name and, it could be argued, have explicitly allowed

[twitter-dev] Re: OAuth vs. Basic authentication strictly on iPhone

2009-08-12 Thread Zac Bowling
Pictures in email signatures is obnoxious and annoying. Zac Bowling On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Bradley S. O'Hearnebrad.ohea...@gmail.com wrote: Alex, Thank you for the information -- that does give me a much better idea of the helpful utility of OAuth within the Twitter ecosystem.

[twitter-dev] Re: FW: Twitter is Suing me!!!

2009-08-12 Thread Dewald Pretorius
I believe that threatening with legal action was the secondary choice for Twitter. The first choice would have been simply blackholing the IP address of Dean's application. However, that's impossible because it's a .Net app that makes calls from each user's IP address, much like Tweetie and

[twitter-dev] Re: FW: Twitter is Suing me!!!

2009-08-12 Thread Bob Fishel
Oh come on, you're just being disingenous now. First they came for the pedophiles First they came for the muderers Today's society is to worried about offending someone to acknowledge the fact that YES there are univseral rights and universal wrongs. That is not to say that there isn't a

[twitter-dev] Re: FW: Twitter is Suing me!!!

2009-08-12 Thread Dewald Pretorius
Bob, Perhaps I'm being daft, but how can someone following you be spam or wrong, regardless of whether it is manual or auto follow? If you don't follow them, you don't see their tweets, and they cannot DM you. In other words, what does it matter if 50,000 undesirable accounts follow you,

[twitter-dev] Re: FW: Twitter is Suing me!!!

2009-08-12 Thread Scott Haneda
It may get even harder and open the door to an already hot topic with T.W.I.T. (The Week In Tech) which is a show by Leo Laporte. I believe this show pre-dates the use of twit, and nay pre-date Twitter. I seem to recall at some point Leo Laporte would not even use Twitter as a result of

[twitter-dev] Re: FW: Twitter is Suing me!!!

2009-08-12 Thread Neil Ellis
Dewald Honest question honest answer If someone follows me, I'd like to find out about them and see if I'd like to follow them, I'd like to consider becoming friends with this person. How can I do that if 80% of my follows are Real Estate Agents. It wastes my time, it's annoying

[twitter-dev] Re: FW: Twitter is Suing me!!!

2009-08-12 Thread Neil Ellis
All this stuff about following being equated to spamming is nonsense. really, glad you cleared that up ;-)

[twitter-dev] Re: FW: Twitter is Suing me!!!

2009-08-12 Thread Abraham Williams
Me :( 2009/8/12 Neil Ellis neilellis1...@googlemail.com I pity the fool who wakes up to this thread in the morning :-) -- Abraham Williams | Community Evangelist | http://web608.org Hacker | http://abrah.am | http://twitter.com/abraham Project | http://fireeagle.labs.poseurtech.com This

[twitter-dev] Re: FW: Twitter is Suing me!!!

2009-08-12 Thread Neil Ellis
Good morning Abraham ;-) On 12 Aug 2009, at 18:20, Abraham Williams wrote: Me :( 2009/8/12 Neil Ellis neilellis1...@googlemail.com I pity the fool who wakes up to this thread in the morning :-) -- Abraham Williams | Community Evangelist | http://web608.org Hacker | http://abrah.am |

[twitter-dev] Re: FW: Twitter is Suing me!!!

2009-08-12 Thread Zac Bowling
Apparently you fail to recall the MikeRoweSoft.com case. The deal with MikeRoweSoft is a different issue then this one. Mike Rowe was perfectly fine in his use. However when Microsoft sent him a CD and said they would pay $ Zac Bowling

[twitter-dev] Re: FW: Twitter is Suing me!!!

2009-08-12 Thread Scott Haneda
I don't know how we get to the point of meaningful auto following. That seems hard to define. If I post a tweet mentioning photography I get 5-10 new followers in a few minutes. Use the word cock or pussy and the auto follow rate is higher. Hash tags are vulnerable here as well. In

[twitter-dev] Re: FW: Twitter is Suing me!!!

2009-08-12 Thread Scott Haneda
The second you can play drinking games based on how many times a company is mentioned on local news; I think that companies ability to be clear and unambiguous becomes as hard as not getting hammered in 5 minutes of watching the news. -- Scott Iphone says hello. On Aug 12, 2009, at 6:04

[twitter-dev] Re: FW: Twitter is Suing me!!!

2009-08-12 Thread Zac Bowling
Apparently you fail to recall the MikeRoweSoft.com case. The deal with MikeRoweSoft is a different issue then this one. Mike Rowe was perfectly fine in his use. However when Microsoft sent him a CD and said they would pay $100 (IIRC) for his domain. His mistake was saying yah, maybe for a

[twitter-dev] Re: FW: Twitter is Suing me!!!

2009-08-12 Thread Scott Haneda
I was always under the impression trademarks came down to a reasonable expectation that users could be confused as to which was the original name. In the example of the Edge iPhone game, he was called out against using Edge as a name since there was a shady software development house

[twitter-dev] Re: Trademark infringement

2009-08-12 Thread shiplu
Tweet is already a verb. See http://www.answers.com/topic/tweet I am not an English speaker. But see the output of the following command in your linux distro. $ look tweet tweet tweeted tweeter tweeter's tweeters tweeting tweets How can it become IP ?? -- A K M Mokaddim http://talk.cmyweb.net

[twitter-dev] Re: Newbie to seek advice on the flow of a twitter app with OAuth

2009-08-12 Thread Abraham Williams
Are you using my PHP library? It does not have oauth_callback support yet. Abraham 2009/8/11 jaike jai...@gmail.com Andrew, I can't seem to get this working and wanted to see if you would be able to shed some light... thx in my main index i created a variable: (i tried with both of

[twitter-dev] Re: Trademark infringement

2009-08-12 Thread Josh Roesslein
I believe you can trademark common words within a specific product group. No micro blog related product could use tweet, but other non-related products would not be affected. Example: I could sell a birdfeeder called TweetFeeder since it is not related at all to twitter's usage. The reason for

[twitter-dev] Re: FW: Twitter is Suing me!!!

2009-08-12 Thread Scott Haneda
I am not a lawyer, but everything I have read about this makes the below impossible. If you have a trademark on a name, you MUST protect it. Failure to protect it, results in loss of the mark. The quote below, clearly states that Twitter is not going to protect this mark. That being

[twitter-dev] Re: FW: Twitter is Suing me!!!

2009-08-12 Thread avail4one
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Scott Haneda talkli...@newgeo.com wrote: I am not a lawyer, but everything I have read about this makes the below impossible. If you have a trademark on a name, you MUST protect it. Failure to protect it, results in loss of the mark. The quote below,

[twitter-dev] Re: FW: Twitter is Suing me!!!

2009-08-12 Thread Scott Haneda
Others use your following and follower list as a way to bridge new connections to interesting people. If I am interested in Person X, I can look at who is following him, and know that others are probably of like minds. I can dig into their list of followers and following, and build

[twitter-dev] Re: FW: Twitter is Suing me!!!

2009-08-12 Thread Dossy Shiobara
On 8/12/09 12:50 PM, Bob Fishel wrote: As another extreme example: Datamining Myspace (if it's possible I've never worked with it) for 12 year olds names and addresses etc... COULD have a purposeful use in advertising but if your $12 product is being used by 99% of people to find children to

[twitter-dev] In case you have not heard, Ashton Kutcher made twitter famous

2009-08-12 Thread Scott Haneda
This is a little OT, and while somewhat tongue in cheek, I thought it amusing, just for the utter inaccuracy of it, as well as how some peoples minds works: Suffer through the ad, and go to 20:00 in the video http://www.hulu.com/watch/89201/late-night-with-jimmy-fallon-tue-aug-11-2009

[twitter-dev] Re: FW: Twitter is Suing me!!!

2009-08-12 Thread Adam Cloud
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Dewald Pretorius dpr...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps I'm being daft, but how can someone following you be spam or wrong, regardless of whether it is manual or auto follow? It can be spam if you had your account sent to auto-notify your phone or inbox when

[twitter-dev] Re: FW: Twitter is Suing me!!!

2009-08-12 Thread Dewald Pretorius
Adam, It may be an irritation and it may cost you money, but it is NOT spam. You opted in to receive the notifications on your phone, and hence it is NOT spam. Dewald On Aug 12, 3:46 pm, Adam Cloud cloudy...@gmail.com wrote: It can be spam if you had your account sent to auto-notify your

[twitter-dev] Re: FW: Twitter is Suing me!!!

2009-08-12 Thread owkaye
I surely hope people would not judge me based on who is following me. They won't unless they are stupid. After all, Twitter gives you no way to control who follows you, and most people understand this. Followers do no, zero, nada harm. Just let them be. Agreed. Owkaye

[twitter-dev] Re: FW: Twitter is Suing me!!!

2009-08-12 Thread owkaye
Perhaps I'm being daft, but how can someone following you be spam or wrong, regardless of whether it is manual or auto follow? It can be spam if you had your account sent to auto-notify your phone or inbox when someone follows you. You're wrong. SPAM only exists when you do NOT ask for

[twitter-dev] Re: FW: Twitter is Suing me!!!

2009-08-12 Thread Adam Cloud
**sigh** Dewald, on a technicality, you're completely right. We did opt in. It was originally a convenience to opt int, so you knew you were being followed. However since the count of bots has increased, it's now an inconvenience to constantly get follow emails\texts from bots. Perhaps they could

[twitter-dev] Re: FW: Twitter is Suing me!!!

2009-08-12 Thread David Fisher
Let's not get into a semantic argument of spam. Spam, noise, trash followers, whatever you want to call them. They are all annoying and not what Twitter or most users want in their service. I'm unsure if a company HAS to pursue every trademark infringement to hold their trademark. Otherwise you

[twitter-dev] Re: FW: Twitter is Suing me!!!

2009-08-12 Thread Dewald Pretorius
Adam, I know this is off the topic of the thread, but along the same vein, this whole notion that someone can spam one via DMs is absolutely bloody bullshit. By virtue of how Twitter works, when you follow someone, you grant that person permission to DM you. They can send you the biggest load

[twitter-dev] Re: FW: Twitter is Suing me!!!

2009-08-12 Thread Dewald Pretorius
Scott, Personally I think that is a mutilation of the use and purpose of Twitter. I surely hope people would not judge me based on who is following me. The only way one can maintain a clean list of people who follow you is to block those whom you don't want as followers. It is going to cause

[twitter-dev] Re: In case you have not heard, Ashton Kutcher made twitter famous

2009-08-12 Thread Michael Ivey
You should use Twitpay. -- ivey On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Scott Haneda talkli...@newgeo.com wrote: This is a little OT, and while somewhat tongue in cheek, I thought it amusing, just for the utter inaccuracy of it, as well as how some peoples minds works: Suffer through the ad,

[twitter-dev] Re: FW: Twitter is Suing me!!!

2009-08-12 Thread owkaye
I surely hope people would not judge me based on who is following me. They won't unless they are stupid. After all, Twitter gives you no way to control who follows you, and most people understand this. sure they do. it's called blocking. every time a pain in the ass porn bot or

[twitter-dev] Re: FW: Twitter is Suing me!!!

2009-08-12 Thread Dewald Pretorius
But let me immediately add, that is on a technical definition of spam. I am fully aware that most people would label as spam any DM that they do not like. On Aug 12, 4:03 pm, Dewald Pretorius dpr...@gmail.com wrote: Adam, I know this is off the topic of the thread, but along the same vein,

[twitter-dev] Re: FW: Twitter is Suing me!!!

2009-08-12 Thread Scott Haneda
I used to ass well, this does not work well when number grow. On Aug 12, 2009, at 11:54 AM, JDG wrote: sure they do. it's called blocking. every time a pain in the ass porn bot or social media expert following 100x more people than follow them follows me, i block them. then they can't

[twitter-dev] Re: FW: Twitter is Suing me!!!

2009-08-12 Thread Adam Cloud
@Thread, They're not going to be able to force dean to transfer his domain to them. His domain name isn't confusing, as twitter.com as well established. He also has a legitimate claim to the domain, regardless of how legitimate the service that serves as that claim may be. Perhaps they should go

[twitter-dev] Re: FW: Twitter is Suing me!!!

2009-08-12 Thread Dewald Pretorius
Note to self: Before painting, first pinpoint all the corners in the room.

[twitter-dev] Re: FW: Twitter is Suing me!!!

2009-08-12 Thread Scott Haneda
On Aug 12, 2009, at 11:42 AM, Dewald Pretorius wrote: Personally I think that is a mutilation of the use and purpose of Twitter. I surely hope people would not judge me based on who is following me. I would not judge you. No, I never take it that far. However, consider if a politician

[twitter-dev] Re: 401 Unauthorized...

2009-08-12 Thread Alex Payne
To the best of my knowledge, we're not doing any unusual blocking. Rate limits are as they have been. On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 08:08, AccountingSoftwareGuy virga.rob...@gmail.com wrote: Is Twitter still blocking posts to the API from non-white listed apps? Since the DDOS attack we can't seem

[twitter-dev] Re: I need a twitter this button for my website

2009-08-12 Thread ian_scho
For example,http://twitter.com/home?status=Your%20Text -M Thanks for the example, it works great. The above will show a new status like: * user_name Your Text * less than 5 seconds ago from web For purely aesthetics reasonsIs it possable to change the from web part when we generate these

[twitter-dev] Friends timeline integration in My Opera latest activities

2009-08-12 Thread Cosimo
Hi there, just a quick note to say that at My Opera (http://my.opera.com) we developed and sent live an integration with Twitter that allows our users to see their friends timeline in their latest activities stream on My Opera. The number of active users is not so high, and we cache twitter API

[twitter-dev] Following a large number of users

2009-08-12 Thread murphy
We are building a suite of applications for Facebook Pages and one of the features is integration of user's twitter status updates into their facebook page feed. Thus the need to get a lot of users' twitter statuses at reasonable intervals. Looking at the API documentation there seems to be 3

[twitter-dev] user_timeline oddity (199 is not 200)

2009-08-12 Thread Alison W
I'm retrieving a user's timeline. 'http://twitter.com/statuses/user_timeline.json?user_id='.$twitter_id.'count=200' is working fine, but with an oddity. Without a 'page=n' at the end the request for 200 entries only returns 199. With a 'page=m' at the end I get a full 200 entries. Given that

[twitter-dev] Query on the status of the Tweets Posted

2009-08-12 Thread mike chavan
Hi, I have a query regarding the tweets posted from an API. when the tweets are posted from my site it shows From API, Instead, I need it to be from web or my website name. For Instance: The below is one of my tweet Why we should be grateful for climate change. Watch to the end. Frightening6:58

[twitter-dev] After authorizing an application...

2009-08-12 Thread Rabbit
After authorizing an application, Twitter redirects me to a page that tells me it's going to redirect me back to the application, but instead redirects me back to the authorization page. I have triple-checked that my Twitter application's callback URL is properly set, and that the actual

[twitter-dev] Rate Limit Change?

2009-08-12 Thread Waldron Faulkner
Getting same response to my rate limit requests (http://twitter.com/ account/rate_limit_status.format), for both Account and IP. I think I missed something. I used to have two different, independent numbers for my account and IP rate limits (including different reset times). That is, I would

[twitter-dev] Re: I need a twitter this button for my website

2009-08-12 Thread JDG
No. You have to develop an OAuth application to change the source. On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 04:04, ian_scho ian.s...@gmail.com wrote: For example,http://twitter.com/home?status=Your%20Text -M Thanks for the example, it works great. The above will show a new status like: * user_name

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