Re: Request for testing data from Twitter (Request / suggestion for offical WADL and WSDL)

2008-10-10 Thread jim.renkel
Lukas, Thank you for the pointer to and the effort put into creating the WADL and WSDL. I'm new to the group, and to Twitter for that matter, but I'm somewhat surprised that there aren't an official WADL and WSDL for the service. Or any other complete specification that I can find. Am I missing

Re: Opinions wanted: a more RESTful way to update your status

2008-10-14 Thread jim.renkel
I too like Joel's idea. Jim Renkel On Oct 14, 2:58 pm, Vinuth Madinur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +1 to what Joel said. On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 12:37 AM, jstrellner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally I've always liked URI's that can be broken into name/value pairs.  In this case, I would

Re: Problem with replying to messages

2008-10-14 Thread jim.renkel
others I am on or maintain). -- Ed Finklerhttp://funkatron.com AIM: funka7ron ICQ: 3922133 Skype: funka7ron On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 8:05 PM, jim.renkel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've tried replying to several messages in the twitter API discussion threads, get a reply that the post

Re: Request for testing data from Twitter (Request / suggestion for offical WADL and WSDL)

2008-10-14 Thread jim.renkel
, 2008 at 8:14 PM, jim.renkel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lukas, Thank you for the pointer to and the effort put into creating the WADL and WSDL. I'm new to the group, and to Twitter for that matter, but I'm somewhat surprised that there aren't an official WADL and WSDL for the service

[twitter-dev] Re: Reserved usernames

2009-03-17 Thread jim.renkel
Richard, I think the problem you're trying to solve here is: given a URL of the form http://twitter.com/xxx, is xxx a valid twitter username? (At least that's a problem that I'm trying to solve for an application I'm developing.). A static list of such xxx's, although interesting, can't be

[twitter-dev] Re: Purposed method: friendships/show

2009-06-09 Thread jim.renkel
It seems from the examples, but not explicitly stated anywhere, that the values of the following and followed_by items are booleans, implying that a user either is or is not following another user. While at first blush that seems true, I think in reality the situation is a little more

[twitter-dev] Re: Purposed method: friendships/show

2009-06-10 Thread jim.renkel
, 2009 at 4:29 PM, jim.renkel james.ren...@gmail.com wrote: It seems from the examples, but not explicitly stated anywhere, that the values of the following and followed_by items are booleans, implying that a user either is or is not following another user. While at first blush that seems

[twitter-dev] Re: Updating the APIs authentication limiting policy

2009-07-22 Thread jim.renkel
My concern with this proposal is that it opens up denials of service, not to twitter.com, but to associated sites such as twitpic, or my site twxlate, among others For example, Lance Armstrong is a heavy user of twitpic. It is very easy for anyone to find Lance's twitter ID (@lancearmstrong),

[twitter-dev] Re: API limit confusion

2009-07-23 Thread jim.renkel
My experience with this is, I think, a little bit different than what you describe. It appears to me that each user of a white-listed site gets 20k requests per hour, independent of any other users of that site or any other uses of the twitter API at other sites by that user. I didn't think

[twitter-dev] Re: Updating the APIs authentication limiting policy

2009-07-23 Thread jim.renkel
Owkaye, Thanks for the comment and suggestion. The problem with implementing this locally at associated web sites rather than centrally at twitter is that: - each site would have to implement it separately; and - users would have to sign up and create a private ID at each site they use. That

[twitter-dev] Re: Rate limit question (again/followup) 20k user or ip?

2009-08-10 Thread jim.renkel
Dewald, Respectfully, I must (now) disagree that rate limiting should not be per user, i.e., that it *SHOULD* be per user based. When my site, twxlate.com, was white-listed and I saw how the white- listing worked, namely that for authenticated requests each user of each white-listed IP address

[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter Update, 8/10 noon PST

2009-08-10 Thread jim.renkel
Yup, when you do back-offs, ya can't do them deterministically, ya gotta do them for a random amount, generally uniformly distributed between some upper and lower bounds. It's the bounds that increase geometrically or exponentially, up to some limit, but the each back-off should be random

[twitter-dev] Re: Rate limit question (again/followup) 20k user or ip?

2009-08-10 Thread jim.renkel
then? Either way, I agree that we now need a very clear affirmation from twitter as to the policy. I sure hope I don't have to eat my words! :-) Jim On Aug 10, 9:08 pm, Dewald Pretorius dpr...@gmail.com wrote: On Aug 10, 11:02 pm, jim.renkel james.ren...@gmail.com wrote: My logic is now: Ifratelimiting

[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter Update, 8/10 noon PST

2009-08-11 Thread jim.renkel
, jim.renkel james.ren...@gmail.com wrote: Yup, when you doback-offs, ya can't do them deterministically, ya gotta do them for a random amount, generally uniformly distributed between some upper and lower bounds. It's the bounds that increase geometrically or exponentially, up to some limit

[twitter-dev] Re: RateLimit Calculation

2009-08-11 Thread jim.renkel
As I've pointed out in other posts to this group, and I will be the first to acknowledge that there are conflicting opinions and facts on this, it is my understanding and experience that for GET requests that require authorization the rate limit is per user per IP address: -If *EITHER* the

[twitter-dev] Re: FW: Twitter is Suing me!!!

2009-08-11 Thread jim.renkel
An interesting implication is buried in all of this. FACT: http://apiwiki.twitter.com/Terms-of-Service states: Please give us a nod in your app, perhaps by including one of these stylish Powered by Twitter badges, which I read as If ya use the API you must acknowledge twitter. FACT: The letter

[twitter-dev] Re: FW: Twitter is Suing me!!!

2009-08-11 Thread jim.renkel
to do, perhaps not too well, is point out that the API TOS may need to be revised to say that developers may use twitter's trademarks, but only in approved ways. BTW, twitter is trademarking tweet as well as twitter. You have been warned! :-) Jim On Aug 11, 10:50 pm, jim.renkel james.ren

[twitter-dev] Re: FW: Twitter is Suing me!!!

2009-08-13 Thread jim.renkel
IANAL, but I don't think all is doom and gloom, or at least not as doomy and goomy as previous posts to this thread (Including one of mine, if it is not read as tongue-in-cheek, as intended) portray. Yes, if you have a trademark, you have to aggressively defend it or risk losing it. No,

[twitter-dev] Re: Rate Limiting Question

2009-08-13 Thread jim.renkel
Just to make things crystal clear, it should be stated that the 20k rate limits apply only to GET requests to the so-called REST-API. Other request types (I.e., POST) and / or other APIs (I.e., search, streaming) have other rate limits. Jim Renkel On Aug 13, 3:58 pm, Chad Etzel c...@twitter.com

[twitter-dev] Re: Early developer preview: Retweeting API

2009-08-17 Thread jim.renkel
I have both practical and philosophical concerns and questions with this proposal. Since I'm a little late in commenting on this, some of these have already been raised. Where I know that is the case, I'll keep it short, but include it to show my support (or not) of the issue. This post contains

[twitter-dev] Re: Early developer preview: Retweeting API

2009-08-17 Thread jim.renkel
This post, containing philosophical issues with the proposed retweet API, is the promised companion to my post containing practical issues. I realize this retweeting API and UI are probably a fait a complis (sp?), modulo addressing practical concerns that I and others have raised, but I'll throw

[twitter-dev] Re: Early developer preview: Retweeting API

2009-08-17 Thread jim.renkel
: jim.renkel wrote: 7. If retweets and status updates are numbered from the same sequence of IDs, then presumably statuses/destroy can be used to delete a retweet. If retweets and status updates have separate ID sequences, then I don't see any way to delete a retweet. I think the ability

[twitter-dev] Re: Early developer preview: Retweeting API

2009-08-18 Thread jim.renkel
Marcel: thank you for the quick response to my questions. Not surprisingly, your answers have raised a couple of more questions. :-) 1. What happens if I give a retweet id number to the status/show method? An error? The retweeted status message is returned along with information about all of

[twitter-dev] Re: Early developer preview: Retweeting API

2009-08-19 Thread jim.renkel
On Aug 18, 7:35 pm, jim.renkel james.ren...@gmail.com wrote: Marcel: thank you for the quick response to my questions. Not surprisingly, your answers have raised a couple of more questions. :-) 1. What happens if I give aretweetid number to the status/show method? An error? The retweeted

[twitter-dev] Re: help retrieving tweets from other users!

2009-08-20 Thread jim.renkel
Yes, the *per request* limit is 200, but using the page parameter you can retrieve up to the last 3200 status updates. See http://apiwiki.twitter.com/Things-Every-Developer-Should-Know#6Therearepaginationlimits for more information. I've implemented and tested this in my site

[twitter-dev] Re: help retrieving tweets from other users!

2009-08-20 Thread jim.renkel
=raashidbhat... On Aug 20, 9:29 am, jim.renkel james.ren...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, the *per request* limit is 200, but using the page parameter you can retrieve up to the last 3200 status updates. Seehttp://apiwiki.twitter.com/Things-Every-Developer-Should-Know#6Therea... for more information

[twitter-dev] Re: Developer Preview: Geolocation API

2009-08-20 Thread jim.renkel
Um, I don't see any way for a user to turn the geo_enabled attribute on and off. Oversight, I hope? Jim On Aug 20, 4:18 pm, Joel Strellner j...@twitturly.com wrote: Hi Ryan, Will this data be available in the streaming API too? -Joel On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 2:11 PM, @epc

[twitter-dev] Re: Developer Preview: Geolocation API

2009-08-22 Thread jim.renkel
Is there any possibility of a test site, with these API response changes, being made available before the changes are introduced to the real site? This would allow us to test our sites and applications against the test site and fix any bugs and bombs before users would otherwise experience them

[twitter-dev] Re: I can't use OAuth and I want to apply source(from[myApp]) [And more!!!]

2009-08-22 Thread jim.renkel
I have a similar, perhaps broader, issue and a suggestion for a solution. My problem is that my site, http://twxlate.com, supports 40+ languages for its user interface, not just the two supported by twitter.com. By that I mean that the user interface is available in 40+ languages, not just that

[twitter-dev] Re: Stop playing around with Source parameters

2009-08-26 Thread jim.renkel
Hmm, using some command line test programs I've developed, I'm still getting 'rel=nofollow'. For example: -- Public timeline 20 statusses Status 0: from HandsomeSmokes, 35229362, Mula Smokes , Brooklyn

[twitter-dev] Re: Pass credentials to browser

2009-08-26 Thread jim.renkel
Fortunately, when I tried that it didn't work. Jim On Aug 26, 11:29 am, JDG ghil...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah there is, albeit not a very nice one: You can dohttp://user:p...@site/ On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 09:24, Josh Roesslein jroessl...@gmail.com wrote: How is that scrapping? He is just

[twitter-dev] Re: New ReTweet API

2009-09-03 Thread jim.renkel
I asked this, and similar but more detailed questions, in my Aug 18, 7:35 pm post to this thread: http://groups.google.com/group/twitter-development-talk/browse_thread/thread/1e07e332ec3d449d/2d10a6a22e55133e?lnk=gstq=ReTweet+API#2d10a6a22e55133e but, unfortunately, have not yet received an

[twitter-dev] Re: if you will be using the Geolocation API ...

2009-09-09 Thread jim.renkel
Raffi, I fully understand the concern about privacy. To that end, here's something you may want to consider: Have application / web-site over-rides of the geo-code enable be another option on OAuth. This way a user can control the creation of geo-coding in their tweets on a finer grain basis.

[twitter-dev] Kudos to Matthias Kaeppler for signpost Open Authentication Java library

2009-09-13 Thread jim.renkel
My website (http://twxlate.com) now supports Open Authentication with twitter, and it was way easier than I expected, thanks to the signpost library from Matthias Kaeppler. It took me longer to convert the code I already had for Basic Authentication to Apache Http Components 4.x than it did to

[twitter-dev] questions on statuses/friends, statuses/followers, and blocks/blocking method

2009-09-18 Thread jim.renkel
The blocks/blocking method appears to be similar to the statuses/ friends and statuses/followers methods, but I believe the documentation is incomplete for all three. According to the API spec, each call to statuses/friends and statuses/ followers returns a page of up to 100 users (and their

[twitter-dev] Re: Can we update geo_enabled field in account profile via API ?

2009-09-29 Thread jim.renkel
I have suggested previously that the capability of an application to geo-code a users tweets and the capability of an application to opt-in to geo-coding for a user be made OAuthorizable. The application would request these capabilities when registering. If twitter didn't trust the application,

[twitter-dev] Question about longevity of geo-coded tweets

2009-09-29 Thread jim.renkel
I just noticed this in the API wiki, under the statuses/update method: Currently, all geolocated information will be removed after seven days. Two questions: 1. What exactly will be removed: the geocoding attached to the tweet? Or the whole tweet? 2. Why? I.e., why remove the geocoding or

[twitter-dev] Re: Question about longevity of geo-coded tweets

2009-09-29 Thread jim.renkel
As an alternative to a hard coded 7 days for the interval to the removal of geocoding information from a tweet, I suggest that an optional expires parameter be added to the statuses/update method. The value of this parameter would give the number of days between the tweet creation and when the

[twitter-dev] 3200 users limit gone for cursorized statuses/friends and statuses/followers methods?

2009-09-29 Thread jim.renkel
the screen names, ya get almost everything twitter knows about the user, including their current status! What more could you want! :-) Jim Renkel On Sep 29, 12:40 pm, jim.renkel james.ren...@gmail.com wrote: In working with the new cursorized statuses/friends and statuses/ followers methods, I