Re: [twitter-dev] Re: API HTTP Post statuses/update.xml

[Eric Mortensen]

Thanks. Sounds good. How about this to bake your noodle. Not to be a dead
horse.  But, looking here  it
appears as though the statuses/update does not have a rate limit, other than
the 1000 limit for the day that applies regardless which i have not hit.
 Figure it all seems confusing.  Still appears that I should not even have
an hourly limit with this api only the daily 1000.  I guess rules of thumb
although I would like to have not gotten rate limited until a higher number
than the ~150 because of to much at one time.  So the 150 is only for GET
not POST.  POST is what I do.  So it looks like the 1000 is what I do hit
and something that governs that limit seems to have a condition that states
that if there is a lot of statuses/update within a certain time period flag
the account with this rate limit for the next hour or so.

On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 4:59 PM, natefanaro  wrote:

> From personal experience the limit is around 150 per hour. That number
> has been raised/lowered in the past and yes the error message is
> misleading. It is possible that the 150 per hour is just a hard limit
> and 1000 per day is a policy limit. Either way if you can technically
> post 150 an hour that's as many as you're going to be able to do.
> Unless you present a very very good case to Twitter I don't believe
> this limit can be raised.
>
> I know the link Matt gave has some solid numbers but I wouldn't expect
> any more detail than that. It's been mentioned in this group before
> that exact numbers can't be given about some limits. They can change
> at any time and spammers could use that info to fly under the spam
> team's radar.
>
> On Jul 29, 3:50 pm, Eric Mortensen  wrote:
> > Why not? If Twitter states I can send 150 an hour or 1000 a day I should
> be
> > able to.  Not my rules its twitters. So I guess it needs to be written
> > somewhere that 42 per hour is the limit.  I am just trying to understand
> why
> > it appears that I am hitting a limit when i am only doing what twitter
> > apparently allows.  The limit I see is possibly the number of messages
> sent
> > at one time and twitter can't handle it and throws the error I have been
> > receiving.  So if that exists than I understand.  I just need to know
> where
> > it is stated.  The error message appears to wrong as well since I can
> still
> > send tweets and it has been a couple hours later.  Then I can tell the
> > program manager that this is why we can't send this many messages because
> of
> > this limit.  Maybe what will help is a link stating that there are
> > protections that prevent a certain number of updates/tweets happening at
> > once.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Matt Harris  >wrote:
> >
> > > Why are you sending so many Tweets? It sounds like you are being
> restricted
> > > because you are sending too many per hour. The limit of updates per day
> > > exists but there are protections to prevent all those updates happening
> at
> > > once. I'm not familiar with the code that handles the measure windows
> or
> > > what the limits are but consider that 1000 tweets per day is approx 42
> per
> > > hour.
> >
> > > Matt
> >
> > > On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 8:59 AM, Eric Mortensen  >wrote:
> >
> > >> For instance, set up the my database to create 200 tweets to post to a
> > >> account. It ran at 11:49 AM EST.  I noticed that 127 tweets were
> posted and
> > >> the remaining got kicked with the error response. Not sure if there is
> a
> > >> limit of 127 I thought it was 150 limit per hour.  This also does not
> hit
> > >> the 1000 daily limit since it was only 200 tweets.  I will try this
> again in
> > >> about 1 hour.  I should be able to start tweeting again.  Let me know
> what
> > >> you think?
> >
> > >> On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Eric Mortensen  >wrote:
> >
> > >>> But, It appears did not hit a 1000 update limit since after an hour
> and
> > >>> can start updates again.  That why it appears to be an hourly limit.
>  Not to
> > >>> mention when this started I did not even have a 1000 tweets total on
> the
> > >>> account.  That is why it can't be the 1000 a day limit. There is
> should be
> > >>> another reason for this.
> >
> > >>> On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 6:56 PM, Matt Harris <
> thematthar...@twitter.com>wrote:
> >
> >  Hey Eric,
> >
> >  That error is the Twitter Limits kicking in saying there are too
> many
> >  status updates being posted by the account. This isn't an API rate
> limit but
> >  a natural limit which applies to all of Twitter. A user may not
> Twitter more
> >  than 1000 updates a day (this includes retweets).
> >
> >  More information on these limits are explained on the page I linked
> to
> >  before:  http://support.twitter.com/forums/10711/entries/15364
> >
> >  Hope that clarifies the what is happening.
> >  Matt
> >
> >  On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Eric Mortensen <
> emort...@gmail.com>wrote:
> 

[twitter-dev] Re: API HTTP Post statuses/update.xml

[natefanaro]

>From personal experience the limit is around 150 per hour. That number
has been raised/lowered in the past and yes the error message is
misleading. It is possible that the 150 per hour is just a hard limit
and 1000 per day is a policy limit. Either way if you can technically
post 150 an hour that's as many as you're going to be able to do.
Unless you present a very very good case to Twitter I don't believe
this limit can be raised.

I know the link Matt gave has some solid numbers but I wouldn't expect
any more detail than that. It's been mentioned in this group before
that exact numbers can't be given about some limits. They can change
at any time and spammers could use that info to fly under the spam
team's radar.

On Jul 29, 3:50 pm, Eric Mortensen  wrote:
> Why not? If Twitter states I can send 150 an hour or 1000 a day I should be
> able to.  Not my rules its twitters. So I guess it needs to be written
> somewhere that 42 per hour is the limit.  I am just trying to understand why
> it appears that I am hitting a limit when i am only doing what twitter
> apparently allows.  The limit I see is possibly the number of messages sent
> at one time and twitter can't handle it and throws the error I have been
> receiving.  So if that exists than I understand.  I just need to know where
> it is stated.  The error message appears to wrong as well since I can still
> send tweets and it has been a couple hours later.  Then I can tell the
> program manager that this is why we can't send this many messages because of
> this limit.  Maybe what will help is a link stating that there are
> protections that prevent a certain number of updates/tweets happening at
> once.
>
> Thanks
>
> On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Matt Harris wrote:
>
> > Why are you sending so many Tweets? It sounds like you are being restricted
> > because you are sending too many per hour. The limit of updates per day
> > exists but there are protections to prevent all those updates happening at
> > once. I'm not familiar with the code that handles the measure windows or
> > what the limits are but consider that 1000 tweets per day is approx 42 per
> > hour.
>
> > Matt
>
> > On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 8:59 AM, Eric Mortensen wrote:
>
> >> For instance, set up the my database to create 200 tweets to post to a
> >> account. It ran at 11:49 AM EST.  I noticed that 127 tweets were posted and
> >> the remaining got kicked with the error response. Not sure if there is a
> >> limit of 127 I thought it was 150 limit per hour.  This also does not hit
> >> the 1000 daily limit since it was only 200 tweets.  I will try this again 
> >> in
> >> about 1 hour.  I should be able to start tweeting again.  Let me know what
> >> you think?
>
> >> On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Eric Mortensen wrote:
>
> >>> But, It appears did not hit a 1000 update limit since after an hour and
> >>> can start updates again.  That why it appears to be an hourly limit.  Not 
> >>> to
> >>> mention when this started I did not even have a 1000 tweets total on the
> >>> account.  That is why it can't be the 1000 a day limit. There is should be
> >>> another reason for this.
>
> >>> On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 6:56 PM, Matt Harris 
> >>> wrote:
>
>  Hey Eric,
>
>  That error is the Twitter Limits kicking in saying there are too many
>  status updates being posted by the account. This isn't an API rate limit 
>  but
>  a natural limit which applies to all of Twitter. A user may not Twitter 
>  more
>  than 1000 updates a day (this includes retweets).
>
>  More information on these limits are explained on the page I linked to
>  before:  http://support.twitter.com/forums/10711/entries/15364
>
>  Hope that clarifies the what is happening.
>  Matt
>
>  On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Eric Mortensen 
>  wrote:
>
> > Here is a response:
> > 
> > 
> >   User is over daily status update limit.
> >   /1/statuses/update.xml
> > 
>
> > On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 5:41 PM, Matt Harris <
> > thematthar...@twitter.com> wrote:
>
> >> Hey Eric,
>
> >> Sorry that help article didn't answer your question. Can you provide
> >> the actual HTTP request being made and the HTTP response you get back? 
> >> We're
> >> interested in the response body content in particular.
>
> >> Also, remember we disable basic authentication on August 16th so you
> >> want to switch to that method of authentication now.
>
> >> Matt
>
> >> On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 12:46 PM, Eric Mortensen 
> >> wrote:
>
> >>> Unfortunately not.  Do you have anything else that might explain it?
>
> >>> On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Matt Harris <
> >>> thematthar...@twitter.com> wrote:
>
>  Hi Eric,
>
>  In addition to the API Rate Limits there are general usage limits
>  which apply to all of Twitter, including the website. These limits 
>  restrict
>  various actions includi