[twitter-dev] Re: Deleting a Retweeted Tweet
I think the extra meta data the retweet API brings is a good addition. Currently you have to use up some of your 140 chars for the retweet heading + username (Rt @whoever ...). So you might get stuck having to truncate the original tweet. With the retweet API you no longer need to include that in your tweet and can retweet the full original tweet. c) The inability to modify or add to the tweet text that you are retweeting. I'm not sure I like the idea of modifying what the original author tweeted then referencing it as what they said. I would like the ability to put my own comment describing why I am retweets this tweet. This could be done by just posting a second tweet with the reply parameter pointing at the retweet. Josh
[twitter-dev] Re: Deleting a Retweeted Tweet
With the current way RT works (without the RT API) and at least as of a month ago, making RTs a reply makes it limited to people who follow both the sender and the original author (since it's a reply). This greatly diminishes the point of retweeting and was the reason why I stopped setting the reply to ID for RTs in SimplyTweet. what? Every time my app submits a tweet with the reply id set, that limits the people who can see it? Yes. I confimed this was intended behaviour with Alex a while back. -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- How are you gentlemen? All your base are belong to us! -
[twitter-dev] Re: Deleting a Retweeted Tweet
Boy, this concerns me. People definitely need to be able to add their own comments to the RT. And removing the retweets if someone deletes the original tweet?! No way. Once it's retweeted, that retweet belongs to the retweeter and must stay. I think it violates social media principles to delete them. On Sep 24, 8:55 am, Joseph Cheek jos...@cheek.com wrote: ouch! deleting tweet IDs in my messages ASAP... Joseph Cheek jos...@cheek.com,www.cheek.com twitter:http://twitter.com/cheekdotcom Cameron Kaiser wrote: With the current way RT works (without the RT API) and at least as of a month ago, making RTs a reply makes it limited to people who follow both the sender and the original author (since it's a reply). This greatly diminishes the point of retweeting and was the reason why I stopped setting the reply to ID for RTs in SimplyTweet. what? Every time my app submits a tweet with the reply id set, that limits the people who can see it? Yes. I confimed this was intended behaviour with Alex a while back.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -
[twitter-dev] Re: Deleting a Retweeted Tweet
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 12:50 PM, Neicole neic...@trustneicole.com wrote: Boy, this concerns me. People definitely need to be able to add their own comments to the RT. No they don't. If they want to comment on it, let them write a comment and post an URL to the original message. If you could add a comment to an RT and someone favorites that, who does the favorite go to? This way the recipient is clear: it should go to the person who originally said it. And removing the retweets if someone deletes the original tweet?! No way. Once it's retweeted, that retweet belongs to the retweeter and must stay. If you want to own something, come up with your own words. I think it violates social media principles to delete them. Fortunately Twitter doesn't think you own the right to control someone else's words just because you repeat them. Personally I've never really understood 99% of the RTs, especially when someone with 50 followers RTs something that someone with 600k followers said, but that's also beside the point.
[twitter-dev] Re: Deleting a Retweeted Tweet
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Joseph Cheek jos...@cheek.com wrote: what? Every time my app submits a tweet with the reply id set, that limits the people who can see it? Were you not around for The Great @Reply Upheaval of 2009? ouch! deleting tweet IDs in my messages ASAP... As long as you understand that means a) people are going to see @replies to people they do NOT follow, which is NOT what the vast majority of Twitter users wanted; and b) this will break any app which tries to thread conversations in Twitter, making it impossible for people to see which message it was in reply to. Dropping the in_reply_to would be like replying to an email sent to a discussion list, changing the Subject, and not quoting any of the message you are replying to.
[twitter-dev] Re: Deleting a Retweeted Tweet
Now does this deletion occur recursively including retweets of retweets? Let's say Bob retweets John and Mike retweets Bob's retweets. Will Both John and Mike retweets be deleted if John original tweet is deleted or just Bob retweet? I'm not sure I like the idea of the delete of retweets if the original tweet is deleted. Unless there is a good reason for doing so (the tweet is spreading a bad link that causes harm, etc) the retweets should be treated as a regular tweet and left alone. Josh On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 7:45 PM, Marcel Molina mar...@twitter.com wrote: If the original retweet is deleted its retweets will also disappear. On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 3:56 PM, Dewald Pretorius dpr...@gmail.com wrote: With the new retweeting, what happens with retweets if the original tweet is deleted, or the author's account is closed or suspended? Do all the retweets of that tweet also just disappear with it? Dewald -- Marcel Molina Twitter Platform Team http://twitter.com/noradio
[twitter-dev] Re: Deleting a Retweeted Tweet
I definitely do not like the fact the a deletion of a tweet also deletes the retweets. It means someone else's actions can subtract content from my time line and completely negate an action that I performed on my account, namely a retweet. To be very honest, I think Twitter is oiling a wheel that did not squeak and is fixing something that was not broken. Three things I do not like about the retweet system: a) The deletions, of course. b) The fact that the original poster's mugshot is shown against the retweet, with the retweeter being attributed in the source area, instead of the other way around. c) The inability to modify or add to the tweet text that you are retweeting. The old/current retweeting method is/was not broken. Dewald On Sep 21, 9:45 pm, Marcel Molina mar...@twitter.com wrote: If the original retweet is deleted its retweets will also disappear. On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 3:56 PM, Dewald Pretorius dpr...@gmail.com wrote: With the new retweeting, what happens with retweets if the original tweet is deleted, or the author's account is closed or suspended? Do all the retweets of that tweet also just disappear with it? Dewald -- Marcel Molina Twitter Platform Teamhttp://twitter.com/noradio
[twitter-dev] Re: Deleting a Retweeted Tweet
b) Completely agree c) I thought the reason for even implementing this despite the fact that most 3rd party clients already handle retweets by creation of a new tweet, was to allow text that's being sent by 100's 1000's and so on to be stored in a single location to save on database space as well as to allow for quicker retrieval of the tweet by allowing for more specific caching. Again, that was a thought, since i dont actually know :)
[twitter-dev] Re: Deleting a Retweeted Tweet
I think that's the point. They can always just do a manual retweet of a tweet. People aren't given the undo button for rumors and leaked info in real life, but we're not in real life :D On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 8:21 PM, Cameron Kaiser spec...@floodgap.comwrote: If the original retweet is deleted its retweets will also disappear. I don't know if I like that. Yes, it might save the original tweeter some embarrassment, but sometimes it's useful to make a tweet survive. Imagine a political gaffe that could be withdrawn instantly and everything that referenced it. -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- The best of all: God is with us. -- John Wesley
[twitter-dev] Re: Deleting a Retweeted Tweet
I think that's the point. They can always just do a manual retweet of a tweet. Of course. That brings us back to the whole question of what purpose the new retweet system serves if the old manual system will still suffice ;-) -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- The steady state of disks is full. -- Ken Thompson -
[twitter-dev] Re: Deleting a Retweeted Tweet
If the original retweet is deleted its retweets will also disappear. On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 3:56 PM, Dewald Pretorius dpr...@gmail.com wrote: With the new retweeting, what happens with retweets if the original tweet is deleted, or the author's account is closed or suspended? Do all the retweets of that tweet also just disappear with it? Dewald -- Marcel Molina Twitter Platform Team http://twitter.com/noradio
[twitter-dev] Re: Deleting a Retweeted Tweet
If the original retweet is deleted its retweets will also disappear. I don't know if I like that. Yes, it might save the original tweeter some embarrassment, but sometimes it's useful to make a tweet survive. Imagine a political gaffe that could be withdrawn instantly and everything that referenced it. -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- The best of all: God is with us. -- John Wesley
