[twitter-dev] Re: I can't use OAuth and I want to apply source(from[myApp]) [And more!!!]
I have a similar, perhaps broader, issue and a suggestion for a solution. My problem is that my site, http://twxlate.com, supports 40+ languages for its user interface, not just the two supported by twitter.com. By that I mean that the user interface is available in 40+ languages, not just that it can handle information obtained from twitter that could be in any one of the 40+ languages. The site currently supports Basic Authentication, with the prompts in one of the 40+ languages of the user's choosing. It works quite nicely, thank you, for user's that are comfortable in giving the site their user id and passwords. When I add support for OAuth, which I am doing, I can present the link to twitter's OAuth page in that language of the user's choosing. But the OAuth page itself is only available in two languages. This could result in a roadblock to users that are not fluent in either of those two languages using my site. Especially when twitter turns off Basic Authentication sometime in the (hopefully distant :-) ) future. My suggestion for a fix to this (and other related problems) is to add a method to the API that requires only Basic Authentication and that returns the same information as the OAuth callback (i.e., consumer secret) just as if the authenticated user had gone to the OAuth page and approved the application to access twitter on its behalf. My rational for this is as follows: if the user was comfortable, for whatever reason, with giving the information necessary to authenticate them (i.e, user id and password) to my site and twitter accepts it on a request by request basis with Basic Authentication now, why should they not continue to accept it in the future? If twitter wants to do away with Basic Authentication on a request by request basis and require OAuth preauthorization for API requests, why should they not accept a Basic Authorization "bridge" into OAuth for users that are comfortable, for whatever reason, with giving the necessary information to the application that will access twitter on their behalf? BTW, this solution would also solve the much discussed problems of client applications, especially mobile device applications, that have difficulty getting back and forth to the twitter OAuth page because of, e.g., limited device functionality. Comment welcome and definitely expected on this one! :-) Jim Renkel P.S.: How do users that aren't fluent in English or Japanese get twitter accounts in the first place? I'll leave a proposal for that to another day, another post. On Aug 22, 12:40 am, bang wrote: > I'm the builder of Twitese (http://twitese.appspot.com/), a chinese > web client for Twitter. I know that if a new web appwantto show from > [myApp], the only way is touseOAuth, but in china that's infeasible, > because twitter has been block in china, chinese people can not access > twitter.com touseOAuth. So Ican'tuseOAuth. The only way to login > isuseHTTP Basic, as the result, statuses post from Twitese just show > "from web". So Iwanttoapplyasourcefor my Twitese, is that > possible?
[twitter-dev] Re: I can't use OAuth and I want to apply source(from[myApp])
User would log in to Twitese, which would do all its work through a proxy (or set of proxies) based outside the US which would handle all the Twitter traffic -- you'd never actually have to access the twitter site. On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 09:14, bang wrote: > > yes, I can access twitter.com with proxy, but the users of Twitese > couldn't access, that's the problem. > One of the most useful feature of Twitese is made Chinese people use > Twitter without proxy > > On Aug 22, 10:10 pm, JDG wrote: > > you could speak with a proxy outside of china, which could do the OAuth > for > > you > > > > On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 23:40, bang wrote: > > > > > I'm the builder of Twitese (http://twitese.appspot.com/), a chinese > > > web client for Twitter. I know that if a new web app want to show from > > > [myApp], the only way is to use OAuth, but in china that's infeasible, > > > because twitter has been block in china, chinese people can not access > > > twitter.com to use OAuth. So I can't use OAuth. The only way to login > > > is use HTTP Basic, as the result, statuses post from Twitese just show > > > "from web". So I want to apply a source for my Twitese, is that > > > possible? > > > > -- > > Internets. Serious business. > -- Internets. Serious business.
[twitter-dev] Re: I can't use OAuth and I want to apply source(from[myApp])
yes, I can access twitter.com with proxy, but the users of Twitese couldn't access, that's the problem. One of the most useful feature of Twitese is made Chinese people use Twitter without proxy On Aug 22, 10:10 pm, JDG wrote: > you could speak with a proxy outside of china, which could do the OAuth for > you > > On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 23:40, bang wrote: > > > I'm the builder of Twitese (http://twitese.appspot.com/), a chinese > > web client for Twitter. I know that if a new web app want to show from > > [myApp], the only way is to use OAuth, but in china that's infeasible, > > because twitter has been block in china, chinese people can not access > > twitter.com to use OAuth. So I can't use OAuth. The only way to login > > is use HTTP Basic, as the result, statuses post from Twitese just show > > "from web". So I want to apply a source for my Twitese, is that > > possible? > > -- > Internets. Serious business.
[twitter-dev] Re: I can't use OAuth and I want to apply source(from[myApp])
Well even with a proxy the users of the app would still need to access twitter.com. Unless twitter makes an exception here I don't see any other way of setting a custom source. It's a shame china is blocking twitter, but I'd imagine they would probably end up blocking your site soon if it became popular. Best of luck. On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 9:10 AM, JDG wrote: > you could speak with a proxy outside of china, which could do the OAuth for > you > > > On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 23:40, bang wrote: > >> >> I'm the builder of Twitese (http://twitese.appspot.com/), a chinese >> web client for Twitter. I know that if a new web app want to show from >> [myApp], the only way is to use OAuth, but in china that's infeasible, >> because twitter has been block in china, chinese people can not access >> twitter.com to use OAuth. So I can't use OAuth. The only way to login >> is use HTTP Basic, as the result, statuses post from Twitese just show >> "from web". So I want to apply a source for my Twitese, is that >> possible? >> > > > > -- > Internets. Serious business. > -- Josh
[twitter-dev] Re: I can't use OAuth and I want to apply source(from[myApp])
you could speak with a proxy outside of china, which could do the OAuth for you On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 23:40, bang wrote: > > I'm the builder of Twitese (http://twitese.appspot.com/), a chinese > web client for Twitter. I know that if a new web app want to show from > [myApp], the only way is to use OAuth, but in china that's infeasible, > because twitter has been block in china, chinese people can not access > twitter.com to use OAuth. So I can't use OAuth. The only way to login > is use HTTP Basic, as the result, statuses post from Twitese just show > "from web". So I want to apply a source for my Twitese, is that > possible? > -- Internets. Serious business.
