[twitter-dev] Re: User Stream's API usage
Being able to retrieve a list of unfollows a user performed since some point in time would be hugely valuable for anyone trying to maintain an up-to-date record of a user's connections without regularly having to refetch all the ids. Is there any way this could be accomplished, perhaps as a REST endpoint? On Apr 21, 5:00 pm, Mark McBride mmcbr...@twitter.com wrote: We likely won't send down the unfollows in the short term, for reasons outlined previously. It's not that we won't *ever* do it, but it's delicate. On the user profile changes, that does seem like a good idea. No promises, but I'll look at what we can do. The highest priorities we have right now are 1) Getting the formatting of messages locked down 2) Getting list activity in (lists created/deleted/modified, users added to lists, etc.) ---Mark http://twitter.com/mccv On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Cameron Kaiser spec...@floodgap.com wrote: Also, unfollows should be treated the same as follows. I know its sad when an unfollow happens, but this is important information too. I disagree. I think unfollows should be totally without penalty, and making them visible/exposed could depending on the situation assign them a very heavy social penalty. Qwitter comes to mind. -- personal:http://www.cameronkaiser.com/-- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems *www.floodgap.com* ckai...@floodgap.com -- EH! STEVE! --- -- Subscription settings:http://groups.google.com/group/twitter-development-talk/subscribe?hl=en
Re: [twitter-dev] Re: User Stream's API usage
The utility of various use cases has to be balanced with the overall Twitter experience that affects every Twitter user. I'd guess that the product team is generally going to bias away from exposing unfollows to the population at large, while not restricting unfollow discovery from motivated parties. Also, the product team will, just as in any company, always bias towards building features that affect the population at large. So, these features fall into the null intersection of these two disjoint sets. Given competing priorities, little is likely to be done here unless there was a huge efficiency gain to be had somewhere... -John Kalucki http://twitter.com/jkalucki Infrastructure, Twitter Inc. On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 8:39 AM, Orian Marx (@orian) or...@orianmarx.com wrote: Being able to retrieve a list of unfollows a user performed since some point in time would be hugely valuable for anyone trying to maintain an up-to-date record of a user's connections without regularly having to refetch all the ids. Is there any way this could be accomplished, perhaps as a REST endpoint? On Apr 21, 5:00 pm, Mark McBride mmcbr...@twitter.com wrote: We likely won't send down the unfollows in the short term, for reasons outlined previously. It's not that we won't *ever* do it, but it's delicate. On the user profile changes, that does seem like a good idea. No promises, but I'll look at what we can do. The highest priorities we have right now are 1) Getting the formatting of messages locked down 2) Getting list activity in (lists created/deleted/modified, users added to lists, etc.) ---Mark http://twitter.com/mccv On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Cameron Kaiser spec...@floodgap.com wrote: Also, unfollows should be treated the same as follows. I know its sad when an unfollow happens, but this is important information too. I disagree. I think unfollows should be totally without penalty, and making them visible/exposed could depending on the situation assign them a very heavy social penalty. Qwitter comes to mind. -- personal:http://www.cameronkaiser.com/-- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems *www.floodgap.com* ckai...@floodgap.com -- EH! STEVE! --- -- Subscription settings:http://groups.google.com/group/twitter-development-talk/subscribe?hl=en
[twitter-dev] Re: User Stream's API usage
I would like to request the addition of another piece of information
to the user stream: user profile changes. Anytime the user changes any
part of their profile data, it would be helpful to stream that change.
Also will there be any way to consume user streams for multiple users?
Thanks,
Jonathon Hill
Company52
http://company52.com
@compwright
On Apr 15, 7:46 pm, Dewald Pretorius dpr...@gmail.com wrote:
John,
I know it is still some ways off into the future, but would you
consider segmenting out the areas ofuserstreams that don't have
privacy implications, to make those parts of the stream available to
services as a higher priority compared with the rest?
For me, social graph changes are the biggest pain point in terms of
processing and delays (and in some cases impracticality) in providing
services to users.
I can imagine that there will be scalability issues, because a service
will have to be able to subscribe to the streams of hundreds of
thousands or more users.
Nonetheless, consideration will be much appreciated.
On Apr 15, 8:32 pm, John Kalucki j...@twitter.com wrote:
Once the conference is over, we'll open the preview up to developers
everywhere. A few more hours to go...
-John Kaluckihttp://twitter.com/jkalucki
Infrastructure, Twitter Inc.
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Isaiah Carew isa...@me.com wrote:
Any chance on getting access to a beta of these from outside chirp? I had
to come home this afternoon and didn't get to play too much while i was
there, but would be really interested in playing more. I understand it's
not ready for roll out. Just looking to start the development process.
isaiah
http://twitter.com/isaiah
On Apr 14, 2010, at 9:26 PM, John Kalucki wrote:
I should have encouraged folks to understand theStreamingAPI first. You
can read up on all the details here:
http://apiwiki.twitter.com/Streaming-API-Documentation
But, for a prototype, just dive right in.
-John
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 9:15 PM, Mark McBride mmcbr...@twitter.comwrote:
Some sample APIs...
curl
-uyouruser:yourpasshttp://chirpstream.twitter.com/2b/user.jsohttp://chirpstream.twitter.com/2b/user.json
n
Will give you a stream of your home timeline, social activity from your
friends, and direct messages.
curl -uyouruser:yourpass
http://chirpstream.twitter.com/2b/user.jsohttp://chirpstream.twitter.com/2b/user.json
n?track=#chirp
Will give you all of the above, plus any tweets matching #chirp
Does that clear it up? If not, I'm currently near The Coop.
---Mark
http://twitter.com/mccv
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 6:37 PM, Kovas Boguts
kovas.bog...@gmail.comwrote:
Hi,
Is there any description of how to use this? I don't understand how to
use track with this or what is generally available for hack day. Thanks!
On Apr 14, 2010, at 4:17 PM, John Kalucki j...@twitter.com wrote:
Email me your account name. You are in, but not getting data. Also, is
this account following anyone?
Typos by iPhone.
On Apr 14, 2010, at 4:11 PM, Jud jvale...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm in the chrip conference IP address range, but
http://chirpstream.twitter.com/2b/user.jsonusageisn't clear.
- the follow predicate in a POST doesn't work (should it?)
- track as a predicate gets accepted, but no data comes through (I get
a single '{friends:[]}', but that's it)
- am I supposed to be tracking userids or names or keywords?
is the resource simply not turned on until later at/on the hackathon's
network?
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Re: [twitter-dev] Re: User Stream's API usage
I second this.
Also, unfollows should be treated the same as follows. I know its sad
when an unfollow happens, but this is important information too.
Basically I would expect the data in the user stream to mirror what is
available by repeatedly scraping the REST API for updates. I guess one
missing piece there would be changes to Lists being sent in the stream
as well.
That said I think what is currently in the user stream is the most
important essential info, so good job there.
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 7:23 AM, Jonathon Hill jhill9...@gmail.com wrote:
I would like to request the addition of another piece of information
to the user stream: user profile changes. Anytime the user changes any
part of their profile data, it would be helpful to stream that change.
Also will there be any way to consume user streams for multiple users?
Thanks,
Jonathon Hill
Company52
http://company52.com
@compwright
On Apr 15, 7:46 pm, Dewald Pretorius dpr...@gmail.com wrote:
John,
I know it is still some ways off into the future, but would you
consider segmenting out the areas ofuserstreams that don't have
privacy implications, to make those parts of the stream available to
services as a higher priority compared with the rest?
For me, social graph changes are the biggest pain point in terms of
processing and delays (and in some cases impracticality) in providing
services to users.
I can imagine that there will be scalability issues, because a service
will have to be able to subscribe to the streams of hundreds of
thousands or more users.
Nonetheless, consideration will be much appreciated.
On Apr 15, 8:32 pm, John Kalucki j...@twitter.com wrote:
Once the conference is over, we'll open the preview up to developers
everywhere. A few more hours to go...
-John Kaluckihttp://twitter.com/jkalucki
Infrastructure, Twitter Inc.
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Isaiah Carew isa...@me.com wrote:
Any chance on getting access to a beta of these from outside chirp? I
had
to come home this afternoon and didn't get to play too much while i was
there, but would be really interested in playing more. I understand it's
not ready for roll out. Just looking to start the development process.
isaiah
http://twitter.com/isaiah
On Apr 14, 2010, at 9:26 PM, John Kalucki wrote:
I should have encouraged folks to understand theStreamingAPI first. You
can read up on all the details here:
http://apiwiki.twitter.com/Streaming-API-Documentation
But, for a prototype, just dive right in.
-John
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 9:15 PM, Mark McBride
mmcbr...@twitter.comwrote:
Some sample APIs...
curl
-uyouruser:yourpasshttp://chirpstream.twitter.com/2b/user.jsohttp://chirpstream.twitter.com/2b/user.json
n
Will give you a stream of your home timeline, social activity from your
friends, and direct messages.
curl -uyouruser:yourpass
http://chirpstream.twitter.com/2b/user.jsohttp://chirpstream.twitter.com/2b/user.json
n?track=#chirp
Will give you all of the above, plus any tweets matching #chirp
Does that clear it up? If not, I'm currently near The Coop.
---Mark
http://twitter.com/mccv
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 6:37 PM, Kovas Boguts
kovas.bog...@gmail.comwrote:
Hi,
Is there any description of how to use this? I don't understand how to
use track with this or what is generally available for hack day.
Thanks!
On Apr 14, 2010, at 4:17 PM, John Kalucki j...@twitter.com wrote:
Email me your account name. You are in, but not getting data. Also, is
this account following anyone?
Typos by iPhone.
On Apr 14, 2010, at 4:11 PM, Jud jvale...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm in the chrip conference IP address range, but
http://chirpstream.twitter.com/2b/user.jsonusageisn't clear.
- the follow predicate in a POST doesn't work (should it?)
- track as a predicate gets accepted, but no data comes through (I
get
a single '{friends:[]}', but that's it)
- am I supposed to be tracking userids or names or keywords?
is the resource simply not turned on until later at/on the
hackathon's
network?
--
To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.- Hide quoted
text -
- Show quoted text -
Re: [twitter-dev] Re: User Stream's API usage
Also, unfollows should be treated the same as follows. I know its sad when an unfollow happens, but this is important information too. I disagree. I think unfollows should be totally without penalty, and making them visible/exposed could depending on the situation assign them a very heavy social penalty. Qwitter comes to mind. -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- EH! STEVE! --- -- Subscription settings: http://groups.google.com/group/twitter-development-talk/subscribe?hl=en
Re: [twitter-dev] Re: User Stream's API usage
We likely won't send down the unfollows in the short term, for reasons outlined previously. It's not that we won't *ever* do it, but it's delicate. On the user profile changes, that does seem like a good idea. No promises, but I'll look at what we can do. The highest priorities we have right now are 1) Getting the formatting of messages locked down 2) Getting list activity in (lists created/deleted/modified, users added to lists, etc.) ---Mark http://twitter.com/mccv On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Cameron Kaiser spec...@floodgap.com wrote: Also, unfollows should be treated the same as follows. I know its sad when an unfollow happens, but this is important information too. I disagree. I think unfollows should be totally without penalty, and making them visible/exposed could depending on the situation assign them a very heavy social penalty. Qwitter comes to mind. -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- EH! STEVE! --- -- Subscription settings: http://groups.google.com/group/twitter-development-talk/subscribe?hl=en
[twitter-dev] Re: User Stream's API usage
What's wrong with Qwitter? I don't get it. Jonathon Hill On Apr 21, 4:30 pm, Cameron Kaiser spec...@floodgap.com wrote: Also, unfollows should be treated the same as follows. I know its sad when an unfollow happens, but this is important information too. I disagree. I think unfollows should be totally without penalty, and making them visible/exposed could depending on the situation assign them a very heavy social penalty. Qwitter comes to mind. -- personal:http://www.cameronkaiser.com/-- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems *www.floodgap.com* ckai...@floodgap.com -- EH! STEVE! --- -- Subscription settings:http://groups.google.com/group/twitter-development-talk/subscribe?hl=en
Re: [twitter-dev] Re: User Stream's API usage
Also, unfollows should be treated the same as follows. I know its sad when an unfollow happens, but this is important information too. I disagree. I think unfollows should be totally without penalty, and making them visible/exposed could depending on the situation assign them a very heavy social penalty. Qwitter comes to mind. What's wrong with Qwitter? I don't get it. YOU BASTARD HOW DARE YOU UNFOLLOW ME YOU REALLY THINK THAT OF ME YOU CAN GO F etc. Some people take it personally. Qwitter makes it easy to know who left, and for those kinds of people, they don't respond well to it. I think it's a depth best left unplumbed. -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- They told me I was gullible ... and I believed them. --- -- Subscription settings: http://groups.google.com/group/twitter-development-talk/subscribe?hl=en
Re: [twitter-dev] Re: User Stream's API usage
I actually had one time where someone interesting that I wanted to follow unfollowed me and when I noticed because of @unfollowr I started following them and they followed me back. :) On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 19:10, Cameron Kaiser spec...@floodgap.com wrote: Also, unfollows should be treated the same as follows. I know its sad when an unfollow happens, but this is important information too. I disagree. I think unfollows should be totally without penalty, and making them visible/exposed could depending on the situation assign them a very heavy social penalty. Qwitter comes to mind. What's wrong with Qwitter? I don't get it. YOU BASTARD HOW DARE YOU UNFOLLOW ME YOU REALLY THINK THAT OF ME YOU CAN GO F etc. Some people take it personally. Qwitter makes it easy to know who left, and for those kinds of people, they don't respond well to it. I think it's a depth best left unplumbed. -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- They told me I was gullible ... and I believed them. --- -- Subscription settings: http://groups.google.com/group/twitter-development-talk/subscribe?hl=en -- Abraham Williams | Developer for hire | http://abrah.am @abraham | http://projects.abrah.am | http://blog.abrah.am This email is: [ ] shareable [x] ask first [ ] private.
[twitter-dev] Re: User Stream's API usage
John,
I know it is still some ways off into the future, but would you
consider segmenting out the areas of user streams that don't have
privacy implications, to make those parts of the stream available to
services as a higher priority compared with the rest?
For me, social graph changes are the biggest pain point in terms of
processing and delays (and in some cases impracticality) in providing
services to users.
I can imagine that there will be scalability issues, because a service
will have to be able to subscribe to the streams of hundreds of
thousands or more users.
Nonetheless, consideration will be much appreciated.
On Apr 15, 8:32 pm, John Kalucki j...@twitter.com wrote:
Once the conference is over, we'll open the preview up to developers
everywhere. A few more hours to go...
-John Kaluckihttp://twitter.com/jkalucki
Infrastructure, Twitter Inc.
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Isaiah Carew isa...@me.com wrote:
Any chance on getting access to a beta of these from outside chirp? I had
to come home this afternoon and didn't get to play too much while i was
there, but would be really interested in playing more. I understand it's
not ready for roll out. Just looking to start the development process.
isaiah
http://twitter.com/isaiah
On Apr 14, 2010, at 9:26 PM, John Kalucki wrote:
I should have encouraged folks to understand the Streaming API first. You
can read up on all the details here:
http://apiwiki.twitter.com/Streaming-API-Documentation
But, for a prototype, just dive right in.
-John
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 9:15 PM, Mark McBride mmcbr...@twitter.comwrote:
Some sample APIs...
curl
-uyouruser:yourpasshttp://chirpstream.twitter.com/2b/user.jsohttp://chirpstream.twitter.com/2b/user.json
n
Will give you a stream of your home timeline, social activity from your
friends, and direct messages.
curl -uyouruser:yourpass
http://chirpstream.twitter.com/2b/user.jsohttp://chirpstream.twitter.com/2b/user.json
n?track=#chirp
Will give you all of the above, plus any tweets matching #chirp
Does that clear it up? If not, I'm currently near The Coop.
---Mark
http://twitter.com/mccv
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 6:37 PM, Kovas Boguts
kovas.bog...@gmail.comwrote:
Hi,
Is there any description of how to use this? I don't understand how to
use track with this or what is generally available for hack day. Thanks!
On Apr 14, 2010, at 4:17 PM, John Kalucki j...@twitter.com wrote:
Email me your account name. You are in, but not getting data. Also, is
this account following anyone?
Typos by iPhone.
On Apr 14, 2010, at 4:11 PM, Jud jvale...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm in the chrip conference IP address range, but
http://chirpstream.twitter.com/2b/user.jsonusage isn't clear.
- the follow predicate in a POST doesn't work (should it?)
- track as a predicate gets accepted, but no data comes through (I get
a single '{friends:[]}', but that's it)
- am I supposed to be tracking userids or names or keywords?
is the resource simply not turned on until later at/on the hackathon's
network?
--
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[twitter-dev] Re: User Stream's API usage
On Apr 14, 7:17 pm, John Kalucki j...@twitter.com wrote: Email me your account name. done You are in, but not getting data. Also, is this account following anyone? it is not -- To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: [twitter-dev] Re: User Stream's API usage
If you aren't following anyone, and aren't tracking any terms, there's nothing to see, other than actions that occur on your account. So, if another account favorites this account's tweets, you'll see that, for example, or if another account follows your account, etc. Add some followings and reconnect to get something more interesting. -John Kalucki http://twitter.com/jkalucki Infrastructure, Twitter Inc. On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Jud jvale...@gmail.com wrote: On Apr 14, 7:17 pm, John Kalucki j...@twitter.com wrote: Email me your account name. done You are in, but not getting data. Also, is this account following anyone? it is not -- To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
