[twitter-dev] Re: oAuth Authenticate vs. Authorize (force_login)

2009-12-29 Thread Aaron Rankin
Does authenticate actually authorize the app to perform operations
on behalf of the user? My understanding is the user must first
authorize the app and then the app can send them through
authenticate in the future as a login check. If the user never
approves the app in an authorize operation, I don't think the app
has the right to perform and twitter operations on behalf of the user.

On Dec 29, 1:44 pm, Andy Freeman ana...@earthlink.net wrote:
  Nice =https://twitter.com/oauth/authenticate?force_login=true?{signed
  args} this stuff is working very well for me;) Thank you for your
  hint.

 While that works, I think that it shouldn't.

 (1) I don't think that it's a legal url because it has two '?'s.
 (2) force_login=true isn't part of the signed arguments so it should
 be rejected.  (The whole point of signing is to block man-in-the-
 middle attacks that alter arguments.)

 I haven't tried including force_login=true in the signed arguments.
 Are you saying that it doesn't work?  If so, I'd say that that's a
 bug, as is the above.

 Thanks,
 -andy

 On Dec 28, 9:41 pm, el moro axel.sachm...@googlemail.com wrote:

  Nice =https://twitter.com/oauth/authenticate?force_login=true?{signed
  args} this stuff is working very well for me;) Thank you for your
  hint.

  Axel

  On 29 Dez., 03:21, Andy Freeman ana...@earthlink.net wrote:

The difference (to my understanding) is that Authenticate does not
authorize the app.

   Huh?

   Whether I use authorize or authenticate, my app can tweet etc on the
   user's behalf.

   What, exactly, do you think that authenticate and authorize do?  I
   think that both can give my application a token that I can use to take
   actions on the user's behalf.  I think that both do some sort of login
   or check before doing so.

   The difference that I see is in how twitter presents its questions
   regarding the account that is allowing my application to do its thing.

   That, and the bit that authenticate leaves folks logged in to twitter.

   On Dec 28, 5:27 pm, Justyn justyn.how...@gmail.com wrote:

The difference (to my understanding) is that Authenticate does not
authorize the app. We need to have the app authorized but want to give
the user the chance to choose which account to login with (and
Authorize).

Ideally, twitter state would not be effected, and user could authorize
an app with desired account (regardless of session) without clicking
sign out.

Justyn

On Dec 28, 5:36 pm, Abraham Williams 4bra...@gmail.com wrote:

 That is true. Authenticate currently leaves the user logged in.

 I would prefer that get fixed rather then adding force_login to 
 authorize as
 I view leaving users logged in as a security risk. Apparently Twitter 
 does
 not:

http://code.google.com/p/twitter-api/issues/detail?id=1070

 On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 17:13, Andy Freeman ana...@earthlink.net 
 wrote:
   Then use authenticate. It accomplishes the same effect of 
   authorize.

  Does it?  My notes say that authenticate leaves the user logged into
  twitter if they weren't before and that authorize doesn't.

  For my purposes, I'd like to force the user to specify their twitter
  account and password even if they're already logged in and not 
  change
  their login state (as far as twitter is concerned) at all.

  I can imagine folks who'd like to allow users to quickly authorize 
  the
  use of the logged in account (if any)

  I can't imagine anyone who'd want to change the user's logged in
  state.

  On Dec 27, 6:08 pm, Abraham Williams 4bra...@gmail.com wrote:
   Then use authenticate. It accomplishes the same effect of 
   authorize.

   On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 17:42, Justyn justyn.how...@gmail.com 
   wrote:
Thanks Abraham - I understand this is the current limitation, 
however
I think there is a need for the foce_login to be available with 
the
authorize function. The authorize landing page is confusing to 
users
who want to sign-in with an account that is different from their
latest session. The sign-out option is not obvious to users. 
This is
based on user feedback, and I don't think we're the only ones 
having
this issue.

On Dec 27, 3:39 pm, Abraham Williams 4bra...@gmail.com wrote:
 force_login=true only works onhttps://
  twitter.com/oauth/authenticatenot
 onhttps://twitter.com/oauth/authorize.

 On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 23:23, el moro 
 axel.sachm...@googlemail.com

wrote:
  Hi, i'd like to use force_login too in my new Rails 
  application.
  This
  parameter seems to be buggy. For me it' s not working too.

  On 24 Dez., 05:18, Justyn justyn.how...@gmail.com wrote:
   Hi guys - just wanted to make sure this stayed on the 
   

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: oAuth Authenticate vs. Authorize (force_login)

2009-12-29 Thread Abraham Williams
@andy: oauth/authenticate is not signed other then with SSL. You are just
passing the request token to Twitter.

@aaron: authenticate and authorize both result in access tokens that allow
you to act on behalf of the user. The first time a user goes through
authenticate they authorize the application.


On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 14:16, Aaron Rankin aran...@gmail.com wrote:

 Does authenticate actually authorize the app to perform operations
 on behalf of the user? My understanding is the user must first
 authorize the app and then the app can send them through
 authenticate in the future as a login check. If the user never
 approves the app in an authorize operation, I don't think the app
 has the right to perform and twitter operations on behalf of the user.

 On Dec 29, 1:44 pm, Andy Freeman ana...@earthlink.net wrote:
   Nice =https://twitter.com/oauth/authenticate?force_login=true?{signed
   args} this stuff is working very well for me;) Thank you for your
   hint.
 
  While that works, I think that it shouldn't.
 
  (1) I don't think that it's a legal url because it has two '?'s.
  (2) force_login=true isn't part of the signed arguments so it should
  be rejected.  (The whole point of signing is to block man-in-the-
  middle attacks that alter arguments.)
 
  I haven't tried including force_login=true in the signed arguments.
  Are you saying that it doesn't work?  If so, I'd say that that's a
  bug, as is the above.
 
  Thanks,
  -andy
 
  On Dec 28, 9:41 pm, el moro axel.sachm...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
   Nice =https://twitter.com/oauth/authenticate?force_login=true?{signed
   args} this stuff is working very well for me;) Thank you for your
   hint.
 
   Axel
 
   On 29 Dez., 03:21, Andy Freeman ana...@earthlink.net wrote:
 
 The difference (to my understanding) is that Authenticate does not
 authorize the app.
 
Huh?
 
Whether I use authorize or authenticate, my app can tweet etc on the
user's behalf.
 
What, exactly, do you think that authenticate and authorize do?  I
think that both can give my application a token that I can use to
 take
actions on the user's behalf.  I think that both do some sort of
 login
or check before doing so.
 
The difference that I see is in how twitter presents its questions
regarding the account that is allowing my application to do its
 thing.
 
That, and the bit that authenticate leaves folks logged in to
 twitter.
 
On Dec 28, 5:27 pm, Justyn justyn.how...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 The difference (to my understanding) is that Authenticate does not
 authorize the app. We need to have the app authorized but want to
 give
 the user the chance to choose which account to login with (and
 Authorize).
 
 Ideally, twitter state would not be effected, and user could
 authorize
 an app with desired account (regardless of session) without
 clicking
 sign out.
 
 Justyn
 
 On Dec 28, 5:36 pm, Abraham Williams 4bra...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  That is true. Authenticate currently leaves the user logged in.
 
  I would prefer that get fixed rather then adding force_login to
 authorize as
  I view leaving users logged in as a security risk. Apparently
 Twitter does
  not:
 
 http://code.google.com/p/twitter-api/issues/detail?id=1070
 
  On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 17:13, Andy Freeman 
 ana...@earthlink.net wrote:
Then use authenticate. It accomplishes the same effect of
 authorize.
 
   Does it?  My notes say that authenticate leaves the user logged
 into
   twitter if they weren't before and that authorize doesn't.
 
   For my purposes, I'd like to force the user to specify their
 twitter
   account and password even if they're already logged in and not
 change
   their login state (as far as twitter is concerned) at all.
 
   I can imagine folks who'd like to allow users to quickly
 authorize the
   use of the logged in account (if any)
 
   I can't imagine anyone who'd want to change the user's logged
 in
   state.
 
   On Dec 27, 6:08 pm, Abraham Williams 4bra...@gmail.com
 wrote:
Then use authenticate. It accomplishes the same effect of
 authorize.
 
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 17:42, Justyn 
 justyn.how...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks Abraham - I understand this is the current
 limitation, however
 I think there is a need for the foce_login to be available
 with the
 authorize function. The authorize landing page is confusing
 to users
 who want to sign-in with an account that is different from
 their
 latest session. The sign-out option is not obvious to
 users. This is
 based on user feedback, and I don't think we're the only
 ones having
 this issue.
 
 On Dec 27, 3:39 pm, Abraham Williams 4bra...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  force_login=true only works onhttps://
   twitter.com/oauth/authenticatenot
  onhttps://twitter.com/oauth/authorize.
 
  

[twitter-dev] Re: oAuth Authenticate vs. Authorize (force_login)

2009-12-28 Thread Andy Freeman
 Then use authenticate. It accomplishes the same effect of authorize.

Does it?  My notes say that authenticate leaves the user logged into
twitter if they weren't before and that authorize doesn't.

For my purposes, I'd like to force the user to specify their twitter
account and password even if they're already logged in and not change
their login state (as far as twitter is concerned) at all.

I can imagine folks who'd like to allow users to quickly authorize the
use of the logged in account (if any)

I can't imagine anyone who'd want to change the user's logged in
state.

On Dec 27, 6:08 pm, Abraham Williams 4bra...@gmail.com wrote:
 Then use authenticate. It accomplishes the same effect of authorize.





 On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 17:42, Justyn justyn.how...@gmail.com wrote:
  Thanks Abraham - I understand this is the current limitation, however
  I think there is a need for the foce_login to be available with the
  authorize function. The authorize landing page is confusing to users
  who want to sign-in with an account that is different from their
  latest session. The sign-out option is not obvious to users. This is
  based on user feedback, and I don't think we're the only ones having
  this issue.

  On Dec 27, 3:39 pm, Abraham Williams 4bra...@gmail.com wrote:
   force_login=true only works onhttps://twitter.com/oauth/authenticatenot
   onhttps://twitter.com/oauth/authorize.

   On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 23:23, el moro axel.sachm...@googlemail.com
  wrote:
Hi, i'd like to use force_login too in my new Rails application. This
parameter seems to be buggy. For me it' s not working too.

On 24 Dez., 05:18, Justyn justyn.how...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi guys - just wanted to make sure this stayed on the radar. I
  imagine
 others would like to use force_login for the Authorize function?

 On Dec 22, 4:46 pm, Justyn justyn.how...@gmail.com wrote:

  We've found it necessary to use the force_login method for
  Authorize
  because of the confusion many users have with the splash page shown
  on
  Authorize (many times they want to authorize a different account
  than
  their latest session), however Authorize does not support
  force_login.

  Is there a way around this, or can we get a version of authorize
  that
  bypasses the sign-out link to get the full credential input for
  our
  users?

  Many users have trouble with this.

  Thanks in advance!

  Justyn

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[twitter-dev] Re: oAuth Authenticate vs. Authorize (force_login)

2009-12-28 Thread Andy Freeman
 Then use authenticate. It accomplishes the same effect of authorize.


Does it?  My notes say that authenticate leaves the user logged into
twitter if they weren't before and that authorize doesn't.

For my purposes, I'd like to force the user to specify their twitter
account and password even if they're already logged in and not change
their login state (as far as twitter is concerned) at all.


I can imagine folks who'd like to allow users to quickly authorize
the
use of the logged in account (if any)


I can't imagine anyone who'd want to change the user's logged in
state.

Then again, my notes also say that 
onhttps://twitter.com/oauth/authenticate?force_login=true?{signed
args} works.

On Dec 27, 6:08 pm, Abraham Williams 4bra...@gmail.com wrote:
 Then use authenticate. It accomplishes the same effect of authorize.





 On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 17:42, Justyn justyn.how...@gmail.com wrote:
  Thanks Abraham - I understand this is the current limitation, however
  I think there is a need for the foce_login to be available with the
  authorize function. The authorize landing page is confusing to users
  who want to sign-in with an account that is different from their
  latest session. The sign-out option is not obvious to users. This is
  based on user feedback, and I don't think we're the only ones having
  this issue.

  On Dec 27, 3:39 pm, Abraham Williams 4bra...@gmail.com wrote:
   force_login=true only works onhttps://twitter.com/oauth/authenticatenot
   onhttps://twitter.com/oauth/authorize.

   On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 23:23, el moro axel.sachm...@googlemail.com
  wrote:
Hi, i'd like to use force_login too in my new Rails application. This
parameter seems to be buggy. For me it' s not working too.

On 24 Dez., 05:18, Justyn justyn.how...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi guys - just wanted to make sure this stayed on the radar. I
  imagine
 others would like to use force_login for the Authorize function?

 On Dec 22, 4:46 pm, Justyn justyn.how...@gmail.com wrote:

  We've found it necessary to use the force_login method for
  Authorize
  because of the confusion many users have with the splash page shown
  on
  Authorize (many times they want to authorize a different account
  than
  their latest session), however Authorize does not support
  force_login.

  Is there a way around this, or can we get a version of authorize
  that
  bypasses the sign-out link to get the full credential input for
  our
  users?

  Many users have trouble with this.

  Thanks in advance!

  Justyn

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Re: [twitter-dev] Re: oAuth Authenticate vs. Authorize (force_login)

2009-12-28 Thread Abraham Williams
That is true. Authenticate currently leaves the user logged in.

I would prefer that get fixed rather then adding force_login to authorize as
I view leaving users logged in as a security risk. Apparently Twitter does
not:

http://code.google.com/p/twitter-api/issues/detail?id=1070

On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 17:13, Andy Freeman ana...@earthlink.net wrote:

  Then use authenticate. It accomplishes the same effect of authorize.

 Does it?  My notes say that authenticate leaves the user logged into
 twitter if they weren't before and that authorize doesn't.

 For my purposes, I'd like to force the user to specify their twitter
 account and password even if they're already logged in and not change
 their login state (as far as twitter is concerned) at all.

 I can imagine folks who'd like to allow users to quickly authorize the
 use of the logged in account (if any)

 I can't imagine anyone who'd want to change the user's logged in
 state.

 On Dec 27, 6:08 pm, Abraham Williams 4bra...@gmail.com wrote:
  Then use authenticate. It accomplishes the same effect of authorize.
 
 
 
 
 
  On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 17:42, Justyn justyn.how...@gmail.com wrote:
   Thanks Abraham - I understand this is the current limitation, however
   I think there is a need for the foce_login to be available with the
   authorize function. The authorize landing page is confusing to users
   who want to sign-in with an account that is different from their
   latest session. The sign-out option is not obvious to users. This is
   based on user feedback, and I don't think we're the only ones having
   this issue.
 
   On Dec 27, 3:39 pm, Abraham Williams 4bra...@gmail.com wrote:
force_login=true only works onhttps://
 twitter.com/oauth/authenticatenot
onhttps://twitter.com/oauth/authorize.
 
On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 23:23, el moro axel.sachm...@googlemail.com
 
   wrote:
 Hi, i'd like to use force_login too in my new Rails application.
 This
 parameter seems to be buggy. For me it' s not working too.
 
 On 24 Dez., 05:18, Justyn justyn.how...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi guys - just wanted to make sure this stayed on the radar. I
   imagine
  others would like to use force_login for the Authorize function?
 
  On Dec 22, 4:46 pm, Justyn justyn.how...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   We've found it necessary to use the force_login method for
   Authorize
   because of the confusion many users have with the splash page
 shown
   on
   Authorize (many times they want to authorize a different
 account
   than
   their latest session), however Authorize does not support
   force_login.
 
   Is there a way around this, or can we get a version of
 authorize
   that
   bypasses the sign-out link to get the full credential input
 for
   our
   users?
 
   Many users have trouble with this.
 
   Thanks in advance!
 
   Justyn
 
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[twitter-dev] Re: oAuth Authenticate vs. Authorize (force_login)

2009-12-28 Thread Justyn
The difference (to my understanding) is that Authenticate does not
authorize the app. We need to have the app authorized but want to give
the user the chance to choose which account to login with (and
Authorize).

Ideally, twitter state would not be effected, and user could authorize
an app with desired account (regardless of session) without clicking
sign out.

Justyn

On Dec 28, 5:36 pm, Abraham Williams 4bra...@gmail.com wrote:
 That is true. Authenticate currently leaves the user logged in.

 I would prefer that get fixed rather then adding force_login to authorize as
 I view leaving users logged in as a security risk. Apparently Twitter does
 not:

 http://code.google.com/p/twitter-api/issues/detail?id=1070



 On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 17:13, Andy Freeman ana...@earthlink.net wrote:
   Then use authenticate. It accomplishes the same effect of authorize.

  Does it?  My notes say that authenticate leaves the user logged into
  twitter if they weren't before and that authorize doesn't.

  For my purposes, I'd like to force the user to specify their twitter
  account and password even if they're already logged in and not change
  their login state (as far as twitter is concerned) at all.

  I can imagine folks who'd like to allow users to quickly authorize the
  use of the logged in account (if any)

  I can't imagine anyone who'd want to change the user's logged in
  state.

  On Dec 27, 6:08 pm, Abraham Williams 4bra...@gmail.com wrote:
   Then use authenticate. It accomplishes the same effect of authorize.

   On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 17:42, Justyn justyn.how...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks Abraham - I understand this is the current limitation, however
I think there is a need for the foce_login to be available with the
authorize function. The authorize landing page is confusing to users
who want to sign-in with an account that is different from their
latest session. The sign-out option is not obvious to users. This is
based on user feedback, and I don't think we're the only ones having
this issue.

On Dec 27, 3:39 pm, Abraham Williams 4bra...@gmail.com wrote:
 force_login=true only works onhttps://
  twitter.com/oauth/authenticatenot
 onhttps://twitter.com/oauth/authorize.

 On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 23:23, el moro axel.sachm...@googlemail.com

wrote:
  Hi, i'd like to use force_login too in my new Rails application.
  This
  parameter seems to be buggy. For me it' s not working too.

  On 24 Dez., 05:18, Justyn justyn.how...@gmail.com wrote:
   Hi guys - just wanted to make sure this stayed on the radar. I
imagine
   others would like to use force_login for the Authorize function?

   On Dec 22, 4:46 pm, Justyn justyn.how...@gmail.com wrote:

We've found it necessary to use the force_login method for
Authorize
because of the confusion many users have with the splash page
  shown
on
Authorize (many times they want to authorize a different
  account
than
their latest session), however Authorize does not support
force_login.

Is there a way around this, or can we get a version of
  authorize
that
bypasses the sign-out link to get the full credential input
  for
our
users?

Many users have trouble with this.

Thanks in advance!

Justyn

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[twitter-dev] Re: oAuth Authenticate vs. Authorize (force_login)

2009-12-28 Thread Andy Freeman
 The difference (to my understanding) is that Authenticate does not
 authorize the app.

Huh?

Whether I use authorize or authenticate, my app can tweet etc on the
user's behalf.

What, exactly, do you think that authenticate and authorize do?  I
think that both can give my application a token that I can use to take
actions on the user's behalf.  I think that both do some sort of login
or check before doing so.

The difference that I see is in how twitter presents its questions
regarding the account that is allowing my application to do its thing.

That, and the bit that authenticate leaves folks logged in to twitter.


On Dec 28, 5:27 pm, Justyn justyn.how...@gmail.com wrote:
 The difference (to my understanding) is that Authenticate does not
 authorize the app. We need to have the app authorized but want to give
 the user the chance to choose which account to login with (and
 Authorize).

 Ideally, twitter state would not be effected, and user could authorize
 an app with desired account (regardless of session) without clicking
 sign out.

 Justyn

 On Dec 28, 5:36 pm, Abraham Williams 4bra...@gmail.com wrote:



  That is true. Authenticate currently leaves the user logged in.

  I would prefer that get fixed rather then adding force_login to authorize as
  I view leaving users logged in as a security risk. Apparently Twitter does
  not:

 http://code.google.com/p/twitter-api/issues/detail?id=1070

  On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 17:13, Andy Freeman ana...@earthlink.net wrote:
Then use authenticate. It accomplishes the same effect of authorize.

   Does it?  My notes say that authenticate leaves the user logged into
   twitter if they weren't before and that authorize doesn't.

   For my purposes, I'd like to force the user to specify their twitter
   account and password even if they're already logged in and not change
   their login state (as far as twitter is concerned) at all.

   I can imagine folks who'd like to allow users to quickly authorize the
   use of the logged in account (if any)

   I can't imagine anyone who'd want to change the user's logged in
   state.

   On Dec 27, 6:08 pm, Abraham Williams 4bra...@gmail.com wrote:
Then use authenticate. It accomplishes the same effect of authorize.

On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 17:42, Justyn justyn.how...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks Abraham - I understand this is the current limitation, however
 I think there is a need for the foce_login to be available with the
 authorize function. The authorize landing page is confusing to users
 who want to sign-in with an account that is different from their
 latest session. The sign-out option is not obvious to users. This is
 based on user feedback, and I don't think we're the only ones having
 this issue.

 On Dec 27, 3:39 pm, Abraham Williams 4bra...@gmail.com wrote:
  force_login=true only works onhttps://
   twitter.com/oauth/authenticatenot
  onhttps://twitter.com/oauth/authorize.

  On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 23:23, el moro axel.sachm...@googlemail.com

 wrote:
   Hi, i'd like to use force_login too in my new Rails application.
   This
   parameter seems to be buggy. For me it' s not working too.

   On 24 Dez., 05:18, Justyn justyn.how...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi guys - just wanted to make sure this stayed on the radar. I
 imagine
others would like to use force_login for the Authorize function?

On Dec 22, 4:46 pm, Justyn justyn.how...@gmail.com wrote:

 We've found it necessary to use the force_login method for
 Authorize
 because of the confusion many users have with the splash page
   shown
 on
 Authorize (many times they want to authorize a different
   account
 than
 their latest session), however Authorize does not support
 force_login.

 Is there a way around this, or can we get a version of
   authorize
 that
 bypasses the sign-out link to get the full credential input
   for
 our
 users?

 Many users have trouble with this.

 Thanks in advance!

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[twitter-dev] Re: oAuth Authenticate vs. Authorize (force_login)

2009-12-27 Thread el moro
Hi, i'd like to use force_login too in my new Rails application. This
parameter seems to be buggy. For me it' s not working too.


On 24 Dez., 05:18, Justyn justyn.how...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi guys - just wanted to make sure this stayed on the radar. I imagine
 others would like to use force_login for the Authorize function?

 On Dec 22, 4:46 pm, Justyn justyn.how...@gmail.com wrote:



  We've found it necessary to use the force_login method for Authorize
  because of the confusion many users have with the splash page shown on
  Authorize (many times they want to authorize a different account than
  their latest session), however Authorize does not support force_login.

  Is there a way around this, or can we get a version of authorize that
  bypasses the sign-out link to get the full credential input for our
  users?

  Many users have trouble with this.

  Thanks in advance!

  Justyn


Re: [twitter-dev] Re: oAuth Authenticate vs. Authorize (force_login)

2009-12-27 Thread Abraham Williams
force_login=true only works on https://twitter.com/oauth/authenticate not
on https://twitter.com/oauth/authorize.

On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 23:23, el moro axel.sachm...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi, i'd like to use force_login too in my new Rails application. This
 parameter seems to be buggy. For me it' s not working too.


 On 24 Dez., 05:18, Justyn justyn.how...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi guys - just wanted to make sure this stayed on the radar. I imagine
  others would like to use force_login for the Authorize function?
 
  On Dec 22, 4:46 pm, Justyn justyn.how...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
   We've found it necessary to use the force_login method for Authorize
   because of the confusion many users have with the splash page shown on
   Authorize (many times they want to authorize a different account than
   their latest session), however Authorize does not support force_login.
 
   Is there a way around this, or can we get a version of authorize that
   bypasses the sign-out link to get the full credential input for our
   users?
 
   Many users have trouble with this.
 
   Thanks in advance!
 
   Justyn




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[twitter-dev] Re: oAuth Authenticate vs. Authorize (force_login)

2009-12-27 Thread Justyn
Thanks Abraham - I understand this is the current limitation, however
I think there is a need for the foce_login to be available with the
authorize function. The authorize landing page is confusing to users
who want to sign-in with an account that is different from their
latest session. The sign-out option is not obvious to users. This is
based on user feedback, and I don't think we're the only ones having
this issue.

On Dec 27, 3:39 pm, Abraham Williams 4bra...@gmail.com wrote:
 force_login=true only works onhttps://twitter.com/oauth/authenticatenot
 onhttps://twitter.com/oauth/authorize.



 On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 23:23, el moro axel.sachm...@googlemail.com wrote:
  Hi, i'd like to use force_login too in my new Rails application. This
  parameter seems to be buggy. For me it' s not working too.

  On 24 Dez., 05:18, Justyn justyn.how...@gmail.com wrote:
   Hi guys - just wanted to make sure this stayed on the radar. I imagine
   others would like to use force_login for the Authorize function?

   On Dec 22, 4:46 pm, Justyn justyn.how...@gmail.com wrote:

We've found it necessary to use the force_login method for Authorize
because of the confusion many users have with the splash page shown on
Authorize (many times they want to authorize a different account than
their latest session), however Authorize does not support force_login.

Is there a way around this, or can we get a version of authorize that
bypasses the sign-out link to get the full credential input for our
users?

Many users have trouble with this.

Thanks in advance!

Justyn

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Re: [twitter-dev] Re: oAuth Authenticate vs. Authorize (force_login)

2009-12-27 Thread Abraham Williams
Then use authenticate. It accomplishes the same effect of authorize.

On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 17:42, Justyn justyn.how...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks Abraham - I understand this is the current limitation, however
 I think there is a need for the foce_login to be available with the
 authorize function. The authorize landing page is confusing to users
 who want to sign-in with an account that is different from their
 latest session. The sign-out option is not obvious to users. This is
 based on user feedback, and I don't think we're the only ones having
 this issue.

 On Dec 27, 3:39 pm, Abraham Williams 4bra...@gmail.com wrote:
  force_login=true only works onhttps://twitter.com/oauth/authenticatenot
  onhttps://twitter.com/oauth/authorize.
 
 
 
  On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 23:23, el moro axel.sachm...@googlemail.com
 wrote:
   Hi, i'd like to use force_login too in my new Rails application. This
   parameter seems to be buggy. For me it' s not working too.
 
   On 24 Dez., 05:18, Justyn justyn.how...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi guys - just wanted to make sure this stayed on the radar. I
 imagine
others would like to use force_login for the Authorize function?
 
On Dec 22, 4:46 pm, Justyn justyn.how...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 We've found it necessary to use the force_login method for
 Authorize
 because of the confusion many users have with the splash page shown
 on
 Authorize (many times they want to authorize a different account
 than
 their latest session), however Authorize does not support
 force_login.
 
 Is there a way around this, or can we get a version of authorize
 that
 bypasses the sign-out link to get the full credential input for
 our
 users?
 
 Many users have trouble with this.
 
 Thanks in advance!
 
 Justyn
 
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[twitter-dev] Re: oAuth Authenticate vs. Authorize (force_login)

2009-12-23 Thread Justyn
Hi guys - just wanted to make sure this stayed on the radar. I imagine
others would like to use force_login for the Authorize function?

On Dec 22, 4:46 pm, Justyn justyn.how...@gmail.com wrote:
 We've found it necessary to use the force_login method for Authorize
 because of the confusion many users have with the splash page shown on
 Authorize (many times they want to authorize a different account than
 their latest session), however Authorize does not support force_login.

 Is there a way around this, or can we get a version of authorize that
 bypasses the sign-out link to get the full credential input for our
 users?

 Many users have trouble with this.

 Thanks in advance!

 Justyn