Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Basic Auth Deprecation

2010-04-30 Thread Clint Shryock
See Twurl: http://thechangelog.com/post/536535280/twurl-oauth-enabled-curl-for-the-twitter-api and http://github.com/marcel/twurl +Clint On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 9:47 PM, mcfnord mcfn...@gmail.com wrote: I think I know the answer to this question (YES), but I wanna clarify: Everywhere in the

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Basic Auth Deprecation

2010-04-17 Thread Lil Peck
On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 8:09 AM, sdesapio sdesa...@gmail.com wrote: Classic ASP VBScript OAuth library and example project: http://scottdesapio.com/VBScriptOAuth/ :) My hero! (Although I am still waiting for Twitter to complete its 2 legged oauth.) -- Subscription settings:

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Basic Auth Deprecation

2010-04-17 Thread Raffi Krikorian
this is part of the oauth rewrite that we mentioned at chirp - we hope to be rolling it out soon. On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 7:17 AM, Lil Peck lilp...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 8:09 AM, sdesapio sdesa...@gmail.com wrote: Classic ASP VBScript OAuth library and example project:

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Basic Auth Deprecation

2010-04-14 Thread Raffi Krikorian
marcel (@noradio) and i have been working on http://github.com/marcel/twurl -- there is definitely some work that needs to be done, but we're getting close. On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 9:01 PM, TJ Luoma luo...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 7:35 PM, Raffi Krikorian ra...@twitter.com

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Basic Auth Deprecation

2010-04-14 Thread Raffi Krikorian
in my ideal world, nobody would have access to a user's password except twitter.com -- oauth provides a framework so end applications are not storing the actual password. people are notoriously bad with using the same password on lots of different sites. additionally, oauth provides twitter

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Basic Auth Deprecation

2010-04-14 Thread znmeb
- Raffi Krikorian ra...@twitter.com wrote: in my ideal world, nobody would have access to a user's password except twitter.com -- oauth provides a framework so end applications are not storing the actual password. people are notoriously bad with using the same password on lots of

RE: [twitter-dev] Re: Basic Auth Deprecation

2010-04-14 Thread Dean Collins
-dev] Re: Basic Auth Deprecation in my ideal world, nobody would have access to a user's password except twitter.com -- oauth provides a framework so end applications are not storing the actual password. people are notoriously bad with using the same password on lots of different sites

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Basic Auth Deprecation

2010-04-14 Thread Cameron Kaiser
Why are you Twitter guys pushing xAuth so hard? Even for new desktop clients? Instead of recommending a proper oAuth flow with PIN or such? I understood its main purpose is to help legacy clients with transition, and new clients should do proper oAuth. I can tell you that there are many

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Basic Auth Deprecation

2010-04-14 Thread Dan Checkoway
*Subject:* Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Basic Auth Deprecation in my ideal world, nobody would have access to a user's password except twitter.com -- oauth provides a framework so end applications are not storing the actual password. people are notoriously bad with using the same password on lots

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Basic Auth Deprecation

2010-04-14 Thread TJ Luoma
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 8:39 AM, Dean #39;at#39; Cognation dot Net d...@cognation.net wrote: But why is oauth better than basic for a desktop client? i understand it for the webapps but on a desktop client whats the point? Basically you are saying the desktop end user cant be trusted? Sorry

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Basic Auth Deprecation

2010-04-14 Thread Raffi Krikorian
-development-t...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Raffi Krikorian *Sent:* Wednesday, April 14, 2010 8:59 AM *To:* twitter-development-talk@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Basic Auth Deprecation in my ideal world, nobody would have access to a user's password except twitter.com

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Basic Auth Deprecation

2010-04-14 Thread Raffi Krikorian
i would love it to :P On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 6:18 AM, zn...@comcast.net wrote: - Raffi Krikorian ra...@twitter.com wrote: in my ideal world, nobody would have access to a user's password except twitter.com -- oauth provides a framework so end applications are not storing the actual

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Basic Auth Deprecation

2010-04-14 Thread Raffi Krikorian
we developed xauth specifically for that - mobile and desktop clients were complaining about usability problems when they have to bounce their users to a web browser. i'm well aware of the implications about xauth, and have blogged about it here:

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Basic Auth Deprecation

2010-04-14 Thread Raffi Krikorian
xauth is definitely useful for the browserless case. On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 6:33 AM, Cameron Kaiser spec...@floodgap.comwrote: Why are you Twitter guys pushing xAuth so hard? Even for new desktop clients? Instead of recommending a proper oAuth flow with PIN or such? I understood its main

RE: [twitter-dev] Re: Basic Auth Deprecation

2010-04-14 Thread Dean Collins
[mailto:twitter-development-t...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Raffi Krikorian Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 10:08 AM To: twitter-development-talk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Basic Auth Deprecation again - overly dramatic. everything i said above still stands - it provides

RE: [twitter-dev] Re: Basic Auth Deprecation

2010-04-14 Thread Brian Smith
Subject: Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Basic Auth Deprecation we developed xauth specifically for that - mobile and desktop clients were complaining about usability problems when they have to bounce their users to a web browser. i'm well aware of the implications about xauth, and have blogged about

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Basic Auth Deprecation

2010-04-14 Thread DeWitt Clinton
@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Basic Auth Deprecation in my ideal world, nobody would have access to a user's password except twitter.com -- oauth provides a framework so end applications are not storing the actual password. people are notoriously bad with using the same password

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Basic Auth Deprecation

2010-04-14 Thread TvvitterBug by Applgasm-Apps
OAuth was intended to facilitate inter-platform user account access without requiring actual usernames or passwords to be exchanged. This would allow platforms such as Twitter, Facebook, TwitPic, etc. to access each others user accounts while maintaining the privacy of that user's access

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Basic Auth Deprecation

2010-04-14 Thread Raffi Krikorian
We're getting ready to release a few changes to our oauth implementation that will allow two legged oauth for public methods. On Apr 14, 2010, at 9:16 AM, Lil Peck lilp...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 11:01 PM, TJ Luoma luo...@gmail.com wrote: I'm still unclear what people

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Basic Auth Deprecation

2010-04-14 Thread Josh Roesslein
I am all for oAuth replacing basic, but one of the remaining issues is consumer keys. With 1.0 signing is required thus requiring distributing keys with your application. We all know this is pretty unsafe since any hacker could yank them out. oAuth 2.0 does seem to solve a lot of the issues

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Basic Auth Deprecation

2010-04-14 Thread Raffi Krikorian
yes, it could be a problem - however, there are known solutions to obfuscating and keeping your consumer key secret. not perfect, but pretty good. maybe we can start a discussion around this? people are going to need to start to move towards this method, and we are here to help you if you need

preserving consumer key secrecy (was: Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Basic Auth Deprecation)

2010-04-14 Thread John SJ Anderson
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 18:26, Raffi Krikorian ra...@twitter.com wrote: yes, it could be a problem - however, there are known solutions to obfuscating and keeping your consumer key secret.  not perfect, but pretty good.  maybe we can start a discussion around this? What's the known solution

Re: preserving consumer key secrecy (was: Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Basic Auth Deprecation)

2010-04-14 Thread Cameron Kaiser
yes, it could be a problem - however, there are known solutions to obfuscating and keeping your consumer key secret. __not perfect, but pretty good. __maybe we can start a discussion around this? What's the known solution for an open-source Web-based application that I want to distribute

Re: preserving consumer key secrecy (was: Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Basic Auth Deprecation)

2010-04-14 Thread Abraham Williams
Why not just distribute a key with it? The worst that happens is someone uses it in their app and it gets disabled and some people get pissed off at you. I have yet to hear of this happening to a Twitter application. If someone abuses your key and Twitter does not handle the situation well I will

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Basic Auth Deprecation

2010-04-13 Thread Raffi Krikorian
we'll make sure to message it long before hand! On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Dewald Pretorius dpr...@gmail.com wrote: Could you please announce the hard turn off date somewhere on one of your Twitter blogs about a month ahead of time, so that we all have an official source to point our

RE: [twitter-dev] Re: Basic Auth Deprecation

2010-04-13 Thread Dean Collins
Just so I understand this, applications running on the desktop will still work correct? Basic functionality is only being turned off for web apps correct? It's not like desktop apps will have to start using oauth. Cheers, Dean -Original Message- From:

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Basic Auth Deprecation

2010-04-13 Thread TJ Luoma
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 7:35 PM, Raffi Krikorian ra...@twitter.com wrote: we'll make sure to message it long before hand! I'm still unclear what people who use 'curl' will do after basic auth is deprecated. Is there an OAuth for the commandline? If so: pointers, please. TjL

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Basic Auth Deprecation in June

2010-01-18 Thread ryan alford
yes, it's official. The depreciation of Basic Auth will start in June. Ryan On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Hwee-Boon Yar hweeb...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks. Hope it's not official. I don't remember reading anything like that on the 2 lists. -- Hwee-Boon On Jan 18, 7:01 pm, Rich

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Basic Auth Deprecation in June

2010-01-18 Thread Cameron Kaiser
Thanks. Hope it's not official. I don't remember reading anything like that on the 2 lists. No, it wasn't posted here at the time. I insert a fairly loud *ahem* to ensure such things are posted here also in the future. -- personal:

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Basic Auth Deprecation in June

2010-01-18 Thread Raffi Krikorian
we have a command line tool that acts exactly like curl but does all the oauth signatures transparently to the end user (the user simply needs to register the keys with the tool). this way people who rely on the ability to use curl to interact with the API (such as scripts, etc.) can still do so.

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Basic Auth Deprecation in June

2010-01-18 Thread TJ Luoma
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 12:48 PM, Raffi Krikorian ra...@twitter.com wrote: we have a command line tool that acts exactly like curl but does all the oauth signatures transparently to the end user (the user simply needs to register the keys with the tool).  this way people who rely on the ability

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Basic Auth Deprecation in June

2010-01-14 Thread Cameron Kaiser
Thanks for your reply! Couldn't I just save the access token in a database and use it later? Yup. Many, if not most, applications do just that. -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com *