Re: [twitter-dev] Re: What Is The Status of Twitter OAuth?
I never knew that asking questions would be considered whining. Twitter has never officially stated that OAuth is in production like they announce other features (like Lists). Now they seem to be telling developers to start moving to OAuth. You state to don't use it. It doesn't look like we will have much of a choice soon. Twitter is recommending third-parties move to OAuth. Looks like it won't be long before basic auth is depreciated. On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Duane Roelands duane.roela...@gmail.comwrote: Use it or don't, and own your decision. It works. It's stable. It's more secure than Basic Auth. It's what Twitter wants you to use. What's the problem here? So tired of OAuth whining. If Twitter OAuth is stable enough for Twitter to recommend that that all third-party applications connect through OAuth connection, then move it out of beta and into production mode, and announce it as such. If not, then don't make that recommendation.
Re: [twitter-dev] Re: What Is The Status of Twitter OAuth?
OAuth is still in beta so when something goes wrong Twitter can fly the *beta* flag. (Thanks Google) On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 09:30, ryan alford ryanalford...@gmail.com wrote: I never knew that asking questions would be considered whining. Twitter has never officially stated that OAuth is in production like they announce other features (like Lists). Now they seem to be telling developers to start moving to OAuth. You state to don't use it. It doesn't look like we will have much of a choice soon. Twitter is recommending third-parties move to OAuth. Looks like it won't be long before basic auth is depreciated. On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Duane Roelands duane.roela...@gmail.comwrote: Use it or don't, and own your decision. It works. It's stable. It's more secure than Basic Auth. It's what Twitter wants you to use. What's the problem here? So tired of OAuth whining. If Twitter OAuth is stable enough for Twitter to recommend that that all third-party applications connect through OAuth connection, then move it out of beta and into production mode, and announce it as such. If not, then don't make that recommendation. -- Abraham Williams | Community Evangelist | http://web608.org Hacker | http://abrah.am | http://twitter.com/abraham Project | Awesome Lists | http://twitterli.st This email is: [ ] blogable [x] ask first [ ] private. Sent from Madison, WI, United States
Re: [twitter-dev] Re: What Is The Status of Twitter OAuth?
Yeah I understand your caution Dewald. It's not fun running into issues you have no control over and then taking the blame from you users. I would say begin implementing OAuth support in your product in prep for the depreciation of basic auth. Maybe even offer a hybrid approach where you support both basic and oauth. Then users can pick which one they prefer (stability vs security). Also you get time to test your oauth code before basic auth dies. Best of luck, Josh On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Dewald Pretorius dpr...@gmail.com wrote: Switching to OAuth is not a trivial issue for me. I will need to get more than 160,000 Twitter accounts switched over from Basic Auth to OAuth. That's why I will only do it on a stable production-level Twitter OAuth. I'm not going to inundate myself with user support requests because of Twitter OAuth beta issues. On Dec 1, 11:41 am, Abraham Williams 4bra...@gmail.com wrote: OAuth is still in beta so when something goes wrong Twitter can fly the *beta* flag. (Thanks Google) On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 09:30, ryan alford ryanalford...@gmail.com wrote: I never knew that asking questions would be considered whining. Twitter has never officially stated that OAuth is in production like they announce other features (like Lists). Now they seem to be telling developers to start moving to OAuth. You state to don't use it. It doesn't look like we will have much of a choice soon. Twitter is recommending third-parties move to OAuth. Looks like it won't be long before basic auth is depreciated. On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Duane Roelands duane.roela...@gmail.comwrote: Use it or don't, and own your decision. It works. It's stable. It's more secure than Basic Auth. It's what Twitter wants you to use. What's the problem here? So tired of OAuth whining. If Twitter OAuth is stable enough for Twitter to recommend that that all third-party applications connect through OAuth connection, then move it out of beta and into production mode, and announce it as such. If not, then don't make that recommendation. -- Abraham Williams | Community Evangelist |http://web608.org Hacker |http://abrah.am|http://twitter.com/abraham Project | Awesome Lists |http://twitterli.st This email is: [ ] blogable [x] ask first [ ] private. Sent from Madison, WI, United States
Re: [twitter-dev] Re: What Is The Status of Twitter OAuth?
I was not aware oauth was still considered beta. It has been live for months now and seems to be in stable condition. So it should be fine for production use. Josh On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Dewald Pretorius dpr...@gmail.com wrote: JDG, you're talking apples and oranges. If Twitter OAuth is stable enough for Twitter to recommend that that all third-party applications connect through OAuth connection, then move it out of beta and into production mode, and announce it as such. If not, then don't make that recommendation. On Nov 30, 3:10 pm, JDG ghil...@gmail.com wrote: Did you not use gmail till it went out of beta too? :) On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 11:27, Dewald Pretorius dpr...@gmail.com wrote: Last information I've seen said that Twitter OAuth is in public beta, if I remember correctly. Has that status changed, as in, has OAuth been moved out of beta and into production? The reason I ask is I notice on help.twitter.com that all Twitter users are now essentially being advised to distrust applications that use Basic Auth. The page also says, We recommend that all third-party applications connect through OAuth connection, as described above. [1] How can you say that if OAuth is not yet in stable production mode?? Dewald [1]http://help.twitter.com/forums/10711/entries/76052 -- Internets. Serious business.
