Re: [twsocket] OT: Open source model

2005-10-19 Thread Arno Garrels
Fastream Technologies wrote:
 Hello Francois,
 
 I wonder how your open-source business model is going? 

At first ICS is not open source.

 I mean financially
 is it satisfying? If I can convince me and my partner, we may consider
 releasing the source code of our web/ftp server as well
 (http://www.fastream.com/netfileserver.htm), that's why I am asking.

Code that is published as/in ICS was mostly contributed because the authors
would have written it anyway and they decided to give it away as freeware
under the license of ICS. The principle is simple, if you use ICS in your
applications, you should make your own improvements or bugfixes public.
If you do not it's your turn, but then you are not belonging to the
people who are interested in moving this project forward.
(not everything in the world is a business model!)  

 
 Best Regards,
 
 SubZ
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Re: [twsocket] OT: Open source model

2005-10-19 Thread DZ-Jay
Arno Garrels wrote:
 Code that is published as/in ICS was mostly contributed because the authors
 would have written it anyway and they decided to give it away as freeware
 under the license of ICS. The principle is simple, if you use ICS in your
 applications, you should make your own improvements or bugfixes public.
 If you do not it's your turn, but then you are not belonging to the
 people who are interested in moving this project forward.
 (not everything in the world is a business model!)  

Arno,
Although I agree with your philosophy, I believe that he was referring 
to Francois himself releasing ICS as open source.  Although I'm sure 
that only Francois can answer that question, I think that it is 
appropriate to make a few important distinctions:

1. ICS is not open source as in Open Source Software, i.e. it does not 
adhere to any of the OSS licenses.  It is freeware (or more specific, 
postcard-ware :), that Francois happens to offer with source.  He 
reserves the right at any time to stop this and to prevent anybody else 
from distributing the source.  As a matter of fact, Francois does not 
currently give permission to distribute ICS source by anybody except him.

2. Francois does not generate money from ICS; as far as I know, he 
originally made money from the MidWare components, which were the 
commercial, industrial-strength components.  He gave ICS away in return 
for a postcard, but he wasn't expecting to make a business model out of it.

dZ.
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Re: [twsocket] OT: Open source model

2005-10-19 Thread Francois PIETTE
 I wonder how your open-source business model is going? 

Well, thank you.
My freeware (This is slightly different than OpenSource) make 
me known and I get business because I am known. 
With the internet, the world is a village.

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