Re: [twsocket] SVN update notifications

2011-02-18 Thread RTT

On 17-02-2011 18:50, Angus Robertson - Magenta Systems Ltd wrote:

Nothing mine, but a rapid Google search reveals this two
  http://www.lakraven.com/delphi-stuff/ttwitter/

which use the Indy HTTP component, not ICS.
It's a complex component, not trivial to convert to ICS.
I'm already tweeting from the sample application included with this 
TTwitter component (even Unicode messages, something not possible with 
the original), and without any Indy dependency. All replaced by ICS 
equivalents. ;)

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Re: [twsocket] SVN update notifications

2011-02-17 Thread RTT

On 17-02-2011 15:17, Francois PIETTE wrote:
Depending on the number of interested peoples, we will either send 
individual emails or use another mailing list. 

How about an RSS feed and a Twitter ICSSVN account? :-)
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Re: [twsocket] SVN update notifications

2011-02-17 Thread Fastream Technologies
I would like to get those news in my inbox.

Regards,

SubZero
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 5:17 PM, Francois PIETTE
francois.pie...@skynet.bewrote:

 Hi Evryone !

 As you know, ICS source code is available on a version control system
 repository (Subversion).
 This system is used by the development team to update the source files more
 or less in real time.

 Each time a change is done on the repository, we have the opportunity to
 send an email notification to interested peoples.

 The question is: Who is interested in receiving those notifications ?

 Why would you receive the notifications ? Just to know what change has been
 commited to the repository almost as soon as it is. Without this
 notification, you would have to use svn client to see the change log.

 Depending on the number of interested peoples, we will either send
 individual emails or use another mailing list.
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 The author of the freeware Internet Component Suite (ICS)
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Re: [twsocket] SVN update notifications

2011-02-17 Thread Anton S.
I think another maillist would be fine bacause you won't have to maintain an 
actual list of people interested in notifications.
RSS would be good too.

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Re: [twsocket] SVN update notifications

2011-02-17 Thread Arno Garrels
- Original Message - 
From: Anton S. an...@rambler.ru
To: twsocket@elists.org
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 6:00 PM
Subject: Re: [twsocket] SVN update notifications


I think another maillist would be fine bacause you won't have to maintain an 
actual list of people interested in notifications.
 RSS would be good too.

Since we already have an internal e-mail notification sent to TeamICS
members (based on TSmtpCli) it would be easy to send another copy to
some mailing list.

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Re: [twsocket] SVN update notifications

2011-02-17 Thread RTT

On 17-02-2011 17:18, Arno Garrels wrote:

Since we already have an internal e-mail notification sent to TeamICS
members (based on TSmtpCli) it would be easy to send another copy to
some mailing list.
How about upgrade that program to add a new entry to a RSS feed, and 
post a new Twitter message? Old mailing list are good, but ther's no 
assurance the message will arrive to all users e-mail box.

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Re: [twsocket] SVN update notifications

2011-02-17 Thread Angus Robertson - Magenta Systems Ltd
 How about upgrade that program to add a new entry to a RSS feed, 
 and post a new Twitter message? Old mailing list are good, but 
 ther's no assurance the message will arrive to all users e-mail box.

Because ICS does not have Twitter or RSS components!  

Or are you offering to contribute them? 

Angus

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Re: [twsocket] SVN update notifications

2011-02-17 Thread Arno Garrels

- Original Message - 
From: RTT p...@sapo.pt
To: ICS support mailing twsocket@elists.org
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 6:27 PM
Subject: Re: [twsocket] SVN update notifications


 On 17-02-2011 17:18, Arno Garrels wrote:
 Since we already have an internal e-mail notification sent to TeamICS
 members (based on TSmtpCli) it would be easy to send another copy to
 some mailing list.
 How about upgrade that program to add a new entry to a RSS feed, and 
 post a new Twitter message? Old mailing list are good, but ther's no 
 assurance the message will arrive to all users e-mail box.

Well, if somebody wants to support social networks or RSS feeds she
has to implement that herself. I'm conservative, in such a way that I use 
NNTP or mailing lists exclusively. This webstuff is just stealing my
time.

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Re: [twsocket] SVN update notifications

2011-02-17 Thread RTT



Because ICS does not have Twitter or RSS components!

Or are you offering to contribute them?


Nothing mine, but a rapid Google search reveals this two
http://www.lakraven.com/delphi-stuff/ttwitter/
http://sourceforge.net/projects/simplerss/
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Re: [twsocket] SVN update notifications

2011-02-17 Thread RTT

On 17-02-2011 17:38, Angus Robertson - Magenta Systems Ltd wrote:

Or are you offering to contribute them?
The Twitter component could be provided by brian - , that the other day 
asked in this list about passing OAuth parameters in the request header.

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Re: [twsocket] SVN update notifications

2011-02-17 Thread Angus Robertson - Magenta Systems Ltd
 Nothing mine, but a rapid Google search reveals this two
 http://www.lakraven.com/delphi-stuff/ttwitter/

which use the Indy HTTP component, not ICS.  
It's a complex component, not trivial to convert to ICS.  

 http://sourceforge.net/projects/simplerss/

also use Indy HTTP, a complex XML project. 

Angus

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Re: [twsocket] SVN update notifications

2011-02-17 Thread Maurizio Lotauro
Scrive Francois PIETTE francois.pie...@skynet.be:

[...]

 Depending on the number of interested peoples, we will either send 
 individual emails or use another mailing list.

Wasn't there already an announce mailing list?


Bye, Maurizio.


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Re: [twsocket] SVN update notifications

2011-02-17 Thread RTT

On 17-02-2011 18:50, Angus Robertson - Magenta Systems Ltd wrote:

Nothing mine, but a rapid Google search reveals this two
http://www.lakraven.com/delphi-stuff/ttwitter/

which use the Indy HTTP component, not ICS.
It's a complex component, not trivial to convert to ICS.


http://sourceforge.net/projects/simplerss/

also use Indy HTTP, a complex XML project.



This only proves that, probably, the ICS project needs more exposition, 
and the new webstuff's, IMHO, can help.
The eminent goal, subject of this thread, is how to communicate SVN 
updates to users.
This components, even if not ICS based, can help to upgrade the email 
applications used by the TeamICS.
Or there are any problem in the usage of Indy components, mixed with ICS 
components? It's an internal application after all.

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Re: [twsocket] SVN update notifications

2011-02-17 Thread Francois PIETTE

Since we already have an internal e-mail notification sent to TeamICS
members (based on TSmtpCli) it would be easy to send another copy to
some mailing list.


How about upgrade that program to add a new entry to a RSS feed, and post 
a new Twitter message?


That would of course be nice. But this require a lot of work to create the 
software to do that, and then to maintain it in operation. I don't think we 
have the resources to do that.


Old mailing list are good, but ther's no assurance the message will arrive 
to all users e-mail box.


No more no less that tweet or RSS.
The mailing list is really very reliable so far as is email. Everybody 
depends on email today so it has to be reliable anyway.


What would be really interesting is to find someone wanting to write a 
program, using ICS components, creating new one if required, which would 
serve as a gateway. That program shall use the POP3 component to receive 
emails from a given email account somewhere, retrieve messages posted by the 
SVN emailer and blash it to tweeter, RSS, FaceBook and LinkedIn. That guy 
should also have a server to make the gateway running and have some spare 
time to operate it properly.


That would be very nice :-)

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Re: [twsocket] SVN update notifications

2011-02-17 Thread Francois PIETTE

Depending on the number of interested peoples, we will either send
individual emails or use another mailing list.


Wasn't there already an announce mailing list?


Yes, but svn notification would generate information not useful for announce 
subscribers, imo.

I think not much people will ask to receive the notifications.

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Re: [twsocket] SVN update notifications

2011-02-17 Thread RTT

On 17-02-2011 18:50, Angus Robertson - Magenta Systems Ltd wrote:

  http://sourceforge.net/projects/simplerss/

also use Indy HTTP, a complex XML project.
In this case the Indy stuff is used only to format datetime values, very 
easy to replace.
There is also an TIdHTTP component, used only in the LoadFromHTTP 
method, not really needed and easily replaceable by the ICS THttpCli.


Using the bellow function, updating a local rss.xml file from that 
TeamICS e-mail client is as easy as this:


   if PostToRssFeed.checked and
   AddEntryToRSSFeed('c:\path\to\the\local\rss.xml', 'email.subject',
   'email.message', 'http://url/to/the/update') then
   begin
   //upload updated c:\path\to\the\rss.xml file online
   end;

- Global FormatSettings, related to DateTime format, should also be set 
to English defaults, if Windows regional settings are different.


- The local feed file can be started by grabbing an online feed, fill 
the header fields with relevant ICS info, and removing all the 
item/item items.


rss feed specifications
http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/rss/rss.html



uses
SimpleRSS, SimpleRSSTypes;

function AddEntryToRSSFeed(const aRSSFilename, aTitle, aDescription, 
aLink: string): boolean;

var
  SimpleRSS: TSimpleRSS;
begin
  result := false;
  SimpleRSS := TSimpleRSS.Create(nil);
  try
SimpleRSS.LoadFromFile(aRSSFilename);
with SimpleRSS.Items.Add do
begin
  Title := aTitle;
  Description := aDescription;
  Link := aLink;
  GUID.Include := true;
  PubDate.DateTime := now;
end;
SimpleRSS.GenerateXML;
SimpleRSS.SaveToFile(aRSSFilename);
result := true;
  finally
SimpleRSS.free;
  end;
end;
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Re: [twsocket] SVN update notifications

2011-02-17 Thread Mohit Sindhwani

My recommendation would be a separate list.

Best Regards,
Mohit.
17/2/2011 | 11:26 PM.

On 17/2/2011 11:17 PM, Francois PIETTE wrote:

Hi Evryone !

As you know, ICS source code is available on a version control system 
repository (Subversion).
This system is used by the development team to update the source files 
more or less in real time.


Each time a change is done on the repository, we have the opportunity 
to send an email notification to interested peoples.


The question is: Who is interested in receiving those notifications ?

Why would you receive the notifications ? Just to know what change has 
been commited to the repository almost as soon as it is. Without this 
notification, you would have to use svn client to see the change log.


Depending on the number of interested peoples, we will either send 
individual emails or use another mailing list.

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Re: [twsocket] SVN update notifications

2011-02-17 Thread Angus Robertson - Magenta Systems Ltd
 This components, even if not ICS based, can help to upgrade the 
 email applications used by the TeamICS.
 Or there are any problem in the usage of Indy components, mixed 
 with ICS components? It's an internal application after all.

The SVN hook emailer is an internal application, written by Arno two
years ago, that meets the needs of TeamICS and can easily support extra
mailings.  A new mailing list has little admin effort, except for bounced
emails.   

I agree ICS Twitter or RSS components would be useful for ICS. Everyone
here is a volunteer and such components usually only get written (or
converted) when there is a commercial need for them, and they are then
(usually) made available to others ICS users for free.  

Testing is also very important, and time consuming.  I personally don't
use Twitter, RSS or LinkedIn, so any such project has a major learning
curve.  I've been using the same 'social networking' site for over 25
years, and don't see a need for others - CIX. 

Angus


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