Re: [twsocket] finding a local domain
Hello Francois, I would say: install a DNS server. There are free one. A customar of me found another solution. He did not wanted to install a DNS server (donno wy), but added an entry in the RAS dialup settings for a local domain. This works also, the SMTP server got a 'domain not found' from the ISP DNS server, then tryed to connect with the RAS settings, witch sayed it was a local IP on the LAN. --- Rgds, Wilfried [TeamICS] http://www.overbyte.be/eng/overbyte/teamics.html http://www.mestdagh.biz Saturday, October 15, 2005, 17:15, Francois PIETTE wrote: Maybe the only workaround is write a DNS server ? I would say: install a DNS server. There are free one. Of course you may write one using ICS. Probably a lot of work. Or can you specify in windows several DNS servers? Yes, you can specify several. Go to your network properties, select IP protocol, select properties, select advanced, select DNS. You have the parameters. You can setup several DNS servers and other options. Contribute to the SSL Effort. Visit http://www.overbyte.be/eng/ssl.html -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] The author for the freeware multi-tier middleware MidWare The author of the freeware Internet Component Suite (ICS) http://www.overbyte.be - Original Message - From: Wilfried Mestdagh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ICS support mailing twsocket@elists.org Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 5:00 PM Subject: Re: [twsocket] finding a local domain Hello Francois, The problem is an MX query problem, isn't it ? Yes. Until now I delivered the server only to customars who have their own DNS server. I tell them to add an entry in the hosts file of the machine of their mail server with the IP address of my server pointing to the new domain, and to add an MX record with this domain to their DNS server. No problem until now. No I have 2 without DNS server, dont know if their is a workaround :( Maybe again example to clarify: suppose my LAN. I have no NT server here, only workstations, so also not a DNS server. I called my workgroup 'wilfried.internal', run an SMTP server on a machine called 'mail'. On another machine called 'sms' I run the other mail server. I make an entry in the host file of 'mail' 'sms.wilfried.internal' with the IP of machine 'sms'. Now I want the mail server (on machine 'mail') to have mail for @sms.wilfried.internal delivered to the smtp server 'sms.wilfried.internal'. I use now Hermes to test this, but the MX problem is 'the' problem, it can never find the 'sms.wilfried.internal' domain :( Unles there is some workaround. Maybe the only workaround is write a DNS server ? If this is the only workaroun then should this one be also a DNS client to lookup in the other DNS server(s) ? Or can you specify in windows several DNS servers? Because then it is probably a more simple server... Sorry I'm not an IT guy so I dont know very mutch about this stuff :( --- Rgds, Wilfried http://www.mestdagh.biz -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] finding a local domain
Hello, I think you can implement a UDP-broadcast based protocol for finding neighboring machines inside your LAN. If a machine responds to a broadcast packet, then it is alive and present. Best Regards, SZ - Original Message - From: Wilfried Mestdagh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ICS support mailing twsocket@elists.org Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 12:49 PM Subject: [twsocket] finding a local domain Hello, Is it possible to find a local domain without a DNS server ? I give example: I have written (with ICS of course :) an SMTP server but difference is that there are not email clients connect to but mobile GSM. The SMS mail server runs on a particular machine, and that IP address is added into the DNS server. For the local SMTP mail server there is no problem to find in that case. But what if there is no local DNS server ? Is it then possible for the mail server to find for a particular domain the machine where the other srever is running on ? Any idea's ? -- Rgds, Wilfried http://www.mestdagh.biz -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] finding a local domain
Wilfried Mestdagh wrote: Hello, You missed the point, or I explained bad :( I try again: Is it possible for a mail server (like Microsoft Echange) to find another mail server on LAN for a certain domain only, if there is no local DNS server? What kind of domains are you talking about, M$-domains? BTW: Exchange must not run SMTP to work. --- Rgds, Wilfried http://www.mestdagh.biz Saturday, October 15, 2005, 11:54, Fastream Technologies wrote: Hello, I think you can implement a UDP-broadcast based protocol for finding neighboring machines inside your LAN. If a machine responds to a broadcast packet, then it is alive and present. Best Regards, SZ - Original Message - From: Wilfried Mestdagh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ICS support mailing twsocket@elists.org Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 12:49 PM Subject: [twsocket] finding a local domain Hello, Is it possible to find a local domain without a DNS server ? I give example: I have written (with ICS of course :) an SMTP server but difference is that there are not email clients connect to but mobile GSM. The SMS mail server runs on a particular machine, and that IP address is added into the DNS server. For the local SMTP mail server there is no problem to find in that case. But what if there is no local DNS server ? Is it then possible for the mail server to find for a particular domain the machine where the other srever is running on ? Any idea's ? -- Rgds, Wilfried http://www.mestdagh.biz -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] finding a local domain
Hello, If you need to use domains in a LAN with no DNS server, you can try dynamic DNS providers such as dyndns.org or no-ip.com. These can point a virtual IP to a dynamic DNS. Regards, SubZ - Original Message - From: Wilfried Mestdagh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ICS support mailing twsocket@elists.org Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 1:05 PM Subject: Re: [twsocket] finding a local domain Hello, You missed the point, or I explained bad :( I try again: Is it possible for a mail server (like Microsoft Echange) to find another mail server on LAN for a certain domain only, if there is no local DNS server? --- Rgds, Wilfried http://www.mestdagh.biz Saturday, October 15, 2005, 11:54, Fastream Technologies wrote: Hello, I think you can implement a UDP-broadcast based protocol for finding neighboring machines inside your LAN. If a machine responds to a broadcast packet, then it is alive and present. Best Regards, SZ - Original Message - From: Wilfried Mestdagh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ICS support mailing twsocket@elists.org Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 12:49 PM Subject: [twsocket] finding a local domain Hello, Is it possible to find a local domain without a DNS server ? I give example: I have written (with ICS of course :) an SMTP server but difference is that there are not email clients connect to but mobile GSM. The SMS mail server runs on a particular machine, and that IP address is added into the DNS server. For the local SMTP mail server there is no problem to find in that case. But what if there is no local DNS server ? Is it then possible for the mail server to find for a particular domain the machine where the other srever is running on ? Any idea's ? -- Rgds, Wilfried http://www.mestdagh.biz -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] finding a local domain
Hello Francois, The problem is an MX query problem, isn't it ? Yes. Until now I delivered the server only to customars who have their own DNS server. I tell them to add an entry in the hosts file of the machine of their mail server with the IP address of my server pointing to the new domain, and to add an MX record with this domain to their DNS server. No problem until now. No I have 2 without DNS server, dont know if their is a workaround :( Maybe again example to clarify: suppose my LAN. I have no NT server here, only workstations, so also not a DNS server. I called my workgroup 'wilfried.internal', run an SMTP server on a machine called 'mail'. On another machine called 'sms' I run the other mail server. I make an entry in the host file of 'mail' 'sms.wilfried.internal' with the IP of machine 'sms'. Now I want the mail server (on machine 'mail') to have mail for @sms.wilfried.internal delivered to the smtp server 'sms.wilfried.internal'. I use now Hermes to test this, but the MX problem is 'the' problem, it can never find the 'sms.wilfried.internal' domain :( Unles there is some workaround. Maybe the only workaround is write a DNS server ? If this is the only workaroun then should this one be also a DNS client to lookup in the other DNS server(s) ? Or can you specify in windows several DNS servers? Because then it is probably a more simple server... Sorry I'm not an IT guy so I dont know very mutch about this stuff :( --- Rgds, Wilfried http://www.mestdagh.biz -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] finding a local domain
Maybe the only workaround is write a DNS server ? I would say: install a DNS server. There are free one. Of course you may write one using ICS. Probably a lot of work. Or can you specify in windows several DNS servers? Yes, you can specify several. Go to your network properties, select IP protocol, select properties, select advanced, select DNS. You have the parameters. You can setup several DNS servers and other options. Contribute to the SSL Effort. Visit http://www.overbyte.be/eng/ssl.html -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] The author for the freeware multi-tier middleware MidWare The author of the freeware Internet Component Suite (ICS) http://www.overbyte.be - Original Message - From: Wilfried Mestdagh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ICS support mailing twsocket@elists.org Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 5:00 PM Subject: Re: [twsocket] finding a local domain Hello Francois, The problem is an MX query problem, isn't it ? Yes. Until now I delivered the server only to customars who have their own DNS server. I tell them to add an entry in the hosts file of the machine of their mail server with the IP address of my server pointing to the new domain, and to add an MX record with this domain to their DNS server. No problem until now. No I have 2 without DNS server, dont know if their is a workaround :( Maybe again example to clarify: suppose my LAN. I have no NT server here, only workstations, so also not a DNS server. I called my workgroup 'wilfried.internal', run an SMTP server on a machine called 'mail'. On another machine called 'sms' I run the other mail server. I make an entry in the host file of 'mail' 'sms.wilfried.internal' with the IP of machine 'sms'. Now I want the mail server (on machine 'mail') to have mail for @sms.wilfried.internal delivered to the smtp server 'sms.wilfried.internal'. I use now Hermes to test this, but the MX problem is 'the' problem, it can never find the 'sms.wilfried.internal' domain :( Unles there is some workaround. Maybe the only workaround is write a DNS server ? If this is the only workaroun then should this one be also a DNS client to lookup in the other DNS server(s) ? Or can you specify in windows several DNS servers? Because then it is probably a more simple server... Sorry I'm not an IT guy so I dont know very mutch about this stuff :( --- Rgds, Wilfried http://www.mestdagh.biz -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] finding a local domain
Francois PIETTE wrote: Maybe the only workaround is write a DNS server ? I would say: install a DNS server. There are free one. Of course you may write one using ICS. Probably a lot of work. Or can you specify in windows several DNS servers? Yes, you can specify several. Go to your network properties, select IP protocol, select properties, select advanced, select DNS. You have the parameters. You can setup several DNS servers and other options. For instance: http://www.hanewin.de/dns-e.htm -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] finding a local domain
Hello SubZ, If you need to use domains in a LAN with no DNS server, you can try dynamic DNS providers such as dyndns.org or no-ip.com. These can point a virtual IP to a dynamic DNS. But not MX record to a private IP :( Their forms just does not accept it. --- Rgds, Wilfried http://www.mestdagh.biz -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] finding a local domain
Hello Arno, Forget it, it is shareware. Could not find a freeware one also. I really thought this would be a sooo simple to solve problem :( --- Rgds, Wilfried http://www.mestdagh.biz -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] finding a local domain
Wilfried Mestdagh wrote: Hello Arno, Forget it, it is shareware. Could not find a freeware one also. I really thought this would be a sooo simple to solve problem :( Probably overkill for your customers? http://posadis.sourceforge.net/posadis/ -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] finding a local domain
I used sheerdns before. Very easy to set up. Works with cygwin dll. Wilfried Mestdagh wrote: Hello Arno, Forget it, it is shareware. Could not find a freeware one also. I really thought this would be a sooo simple to solve problem :( Probably overkill for your customers? http://posadis.sourceforge.net/posadis/ -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] finding a local domain
Could not find a freeware one also. I used this one in the past: http://www.isc.org/index.pl?/sw/bind/ It free under the BSD license. Contribute to the SSL Effort. Visit http://www.overbyte.be/eng/ssl.html -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] The author for the freeware multi-tier middleware MidWare The author of the freeware Internet Component Suite (ICS) http://www.overbyte.be -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] finding a local domain
Hello Francois, I would say: install a DNS server. There are free one. Thanks, I think this is only solution. Thanks to all for advice . --- Rgds, Wilfried [TeamICS] http://www.mestdagh.biz -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
