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Dear list,
types-list moderator here: I have received a request to close this thread
for further discussion, for the reason that continued discussions can cause
pain to some of our colleagues. I have not made any
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To other members of the TYPES list,
I would like to bring to your attention that I have learned that this has been
subject to an editorial style of moderation, so there may be people whose
points of view have not been
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Yes, there was an academic boycott on South Africa. And the general
consensus in retrospect by scholars of South Africa is that it accomplished
nothing beyond sanctions except for "sending a message," and again at the
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It appears that ETAPS has taken down this policy, along with a related
statement that was formerly on the Programme page:
"By virtue of participating at ETAPS'22, each participating scientist
explicitly condemns the war
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I find this decision by ETAPS shocking. I was considering attending ETAPS
2022, and I will not go.
I view scientific research as a universal pursuit of knowledge in the
benefit of humankind. We are funded by nations,
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I looked for more sources on the examples of Ricardo and Phil.
- The 2013 NASA event is described in the following press articles:
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To add to Ricardo's examples, during Apartheid, there was an academic
boycott of South Africa as part of a larger cultural boycott, similar to
the cultural boycott of Russia we see beginning today. This included not
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German scientists were banned from conferences after the First World War.
Chinese scientists (even those working/studying at the USA) were banned
from attending a NASA conference in 2013.
El mar., 8 de marzo de 2022
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Do people know of any precedent of a conference forbidding people working
in a certain country to attend?
(Of course, on a regular basis we hold conferences in countries that make
it difficult for some of our colleagues
Krishnaswami
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Subject: Re: [TYPES] ETAPS bars Russian researchers from attending
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I agree this is a bad move. Ever since JetBrains' statement against the
Russian invasion of Ukraine, I've been
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Dear Neel,
There are many Russians (such as Jetbrains corporation) who have taken
the serious personal risk of publically opposing the war, and barring
them from our conferences due to their nationality feels wrong
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Neel, thank you for bringing this to the community's attention. I think this is
terrible --- and it shows the way that certain European conference organizers
divide up imperialist wars of aggression and colonization
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Dear all,
I fully agree with you, Neel.
The Russian regime started this war, not these researchers. This is the kind of
sanction that will primarily hit the wrong people.
If financial sanctions make it harder for
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I agree this is a bad move. Ever since JetBrains' statement against the
Russian invasion of Ukraine, I've been proud to continue to collaborate
with them. Furthermore, discrimination based on national origin is against
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The ETAPS website (https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.etaps.org__;!!IBzWLUs!HUevd2N5Ms-2WYC1sMdH93ef4xxRy4BjZ9KD0I8SPwLGGpv-Rk7u_Emgl9qMMyLGK4ex90o0Cm0$ ) has the following text on its
front page:
The ETAPS
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