Re: [U-Boot] What if ATF can be part of U-Boot source, like SPL?

2019-09-05 Thread André Przywara
On Thu, 5 Sep 2019 14:26:41 +0200 Marek Vasut wrote: Hi, > On 9/5/19 2:54 AM, André Przywara wrote: > > On 04/09/2019 18:56, Marek Vasut wrote: > >> On 9/4/19 7:32 PM, Andre Przywara wrote: > I have been avoiding this thread but today I attended a talk on ATF > and ARM's approach

Re: [U-Boot] What if ATF can be part of U-Boot source, like SPL?

2019-09-05 Thread Marek Vasut
On 9/5/19 2:54 AM, André Przywara wrote: > On 04/09/2019 18:56, Marek Vasut wrote: >> On 9/4/19 7:32 PM, Andre Przywara wrote: > > Hi Marek, Hi, I have been avoiding this thread but today I attended a talk on ATF and ARM's approach in general. ARM seems to be moving towards an

Re: [U-Boot] What if ATF can be part of U-Boot source, like SPL?

2019-09-04 Thread Matteo Carlini
Hi Simon and all, > I have been avoiding this thread but today I attended a talk on ATF and > ARM's approach in general. For the benefits of others, that was me talking at the OSFC conference (video and slides should appear soon here:

Re: [U-Boot] What if ATF can be part of U-Boot source, like SPL?

2019-09-04 Thread André Przywara
On 04/09/2019 18:56, Marek Vasut wrote: > On 9/4/19 7:32 PM, Andre Przywara wrote: Hi Marek, >>> I have been avoiding this thread but today I attended a talk on ATF >>> and ARM's approach in general. ARM seems to be moving towards an >>> approach of providing increasingly complex source code to

Re: [U-Boot] What if ATF can be part of U-Boot source, like SPL?

2019-09-04 Thread Tom Rini
On Wed, Sep 04, 2019 at 11:51:41AM +0900, Masahiro Yamada wrote: > On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 11:20 PM Marek Vasut wrote: > > > > On 6/30/19 4:17 PM, Tom Rini wrote: > > > On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 04:03:52PM +0200, Marek Vasut wrote: > > >> On 6/30/19 3:57 PM, Tom Rini wrote: > > >>> On Sat, Jun 29,

Re: [U-Boot] What if ATF can be part of U-Boot source, like SPL?

2019-09-04 Thread Marek Vasut
On 9/4/19 7:32 PM, Andre Przywara wrote: [...] >> I have been avoiding this thread but today I attended a talk on ATF >> and ARM's approach in general. ARM seems to be moving towards an >> approach of providing increasingly complex source code to add more >> layers of security software to fully

Re: [U-Boot] What if ATF can be part of U-Boot source, like SPL?

2019-09-04 Thread Andre Przywara
On Tue, 3 Sep 2019 19:17:14 -0700 Simon Glass wrote: Hi Simon, > On Tue, 2 Jul 2019 at 11:42, Marek Vasut wrote: > > > > On 6/30/19 3:38 AM, André Przywara wrote: > > > On 30/06/2019 00:03, Marek Vasut wrote: > > > > > > Marek, > > > > > > you seem to be quite defensive in your answer > >

Re: [U-Boot] What if ATF can be part of U-Boot source, like SPL?

2019-09-03 Thread Masahiro Yamada
On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 11:20 PM Marek Vasut wrote: > > On 6/30/19 4:17 PM, Tom Rini wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 04:03:52PM +0200, Marek Vasut wrote: > >> On 6/30/19 3:57 PM, Tom Rini wrote: > >>> On Sat, Jun 29, 2019 at 08:32:00PM +0530, Jagan Teki wrote: > >>> > In terms of code

Re: [U-Boot] What if ATF can be part of U-Boot source, like SPL?

2019-09-03 Thread Simon Glass
Hi, On Tue, 2 Jul 2019 at 11:42, Marek Vasut wrote: > > On 6/30/19 3:38 AM, André Przywara wrote: > > On 30/06/2019 00:03, Marek Vasut wrote: > > > > Marek, > > > > you seem to be quite defensive in your answer > > I am just correcting the mistakes I perceive in the previous email. > > >, but I

Re: [U-Boot] What if ATF can be part of U-Boot source, like SPL?

2019-07-02 Thread Marek Vasut
On 6/30/19 3:38 AM, André Przywara wrote: > On 30/06/2019 00:03, Marek Vasut wrote: > > Marek, > > you seem to be quite defensive in your answer I am just correcting the mistakes I perceive in the previous email. >, but I was just talking > against merging ATF into U-Boot, not against U-Boot -

Re: [U-Boot] What if ATF can be part of U-Boot source, like SPL?

2019-06-30 Thread Marek Vasut
On 6/30/19 4:29 PM, Tom Rini wrote: > On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 04:20:41PM +0200, Marek Vasut wrote: >> On 6/30/19 4:17 PM, Tom Rini wrote: >>> On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 04:03:52PM +0200, Marek Vasut wrote: On 6/30/19 3:57 PM, Tom Rini wrote: > On Sat, Jun 29, 2019 at 08:32:00PM +0530, Jagan

Re: [U-Boot] What if ATF can be part of U-Boot source, like SPL?

2019-06-30 Thread Tom Rini
On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 04:20:41PM +0200, Marek Vasut wrote: > On 6/30/19 4:17 PM, Tom Rini wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 04:03:52PM +0200, Marek Vasut wrote: > >> On 6/30/19 3:57 PM, Tom Rini wrote: > >>> On Sat, Jun 29, 2019 at 08:32:00PM +0530, Jagan Teki wrote: > >>> > In terms of

Re: [U-Boot] What if ATF can be part of U-Boot source, like SPL?

2019-06-30 Thread Marek Vasut
On 6/30/19 4:17 PM, Tom Rini wrote: > On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 04:03:52PM +0200, Marek Vasut wrote: >> On 6/30/19 3:57 PM, Tom Rini wrote: >>> On Sat, Jun 29, 2019 at 08:32:00PM +0530, Jagan Teki wrote: >>> In terms of code maintenance and development feasibility it is always a better

Re: [U-Boot] What if ATF can be part of U-Boot source, like SPL?

2019-06-30 Thread Tom Rini
On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 04:03:52PM +0200, Marek Vasut wrote: > On 6/30/19 3:57 PM, Tom Rini wrote: > > On Sat, Jun 29, 2019 at 08:32:00PM +0530, Jagan Teki wrote: > > > >> In terms of code maintenance and development feasibility it is always > >> a better approach to have out-of-tree code or

Re: [U-Boot] What if ATF can be part of U-Boot source, like SPL?

2019-06-30 Thread Michael Nazzareno Trimarchi
On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 4:03 PM Marek Vasut wrote: > > On 6/30/19 3:57 PM, Tom Rini wrote: > > On Sat, Jun 29, 2019 at 08:32:00PM +0530, Jagan Teki wrote: > > > >> In terms of code maintenance and development feasibility it is always > >> a better approach to have out-of-tree code or binary to be

Re: [U-Boot] What if ATF can be part of U-Boot source, like SPL?

2019-06-30 Thread Marek Vasut
On 6/30/19 3:57 PM, Tom Rini wrote: > On Sat, Jun 29, 2019 at 08:32:00PM +0530, Jagan Teki wrote: > >> In terms of code maintenance and development feasibility it is always >> a better approach to have out-of-tree code or binary to be part of >> in-house source tree. >> >> This is what exactly it

Re: [U-Boot] What if ATF can be part of U-Boot source, like SPL?

2019-06-30 Thread Tom Rini
On Sat, Jun 29, 2019 at 08:32:00PM +0530, Jagan Teki wrote: > In terms of code maintenance and development feasibility it is always > a better approach to have out-of-tree code or binary to be part of > in-house source tree. > > This is what exactly it was done for SPL, if I'm not wrong. So can

Re: [U-Boot] What if ATF can be part of U-Boot source, like SPL?

2019-06-30 Thread Wolfgang Denk
Dear Jagan, In message you wrote: > In terms of code maintenance and development feasibility it is always > a better approach to have out-of-tree code or binary to be part of > in-house source tree. > > This is what exactly it was done for SPL, if I'm not wrong. So can we > do the same thing

Re: [U-Boot] What if ATF can be part of U-Boot source, like SPL?

2019-06-29 Thread André Przywara
On 30/06/2019 00:03, Marek Vasut wrote: Marek, you seem to be quite defensive in your answer, but I was just talking against merging ATF into U-Boot, not against U-Boot - I think we agree on this. I don't think there is much of a point in comparing ATF and U-Boot, as the two do not compete

Re: [U-Boot] What if ATF can be part of U-Boot source, like SPL?

2019-06-29 Thread Marek Vasut
On 6/29/19 8:49 PM, André Przywara wrote: > On 29/06/2019 16:02, Jagan Teki wrote: >> In terms of code maintenance and development feasibility it is always >> a better approach to have out-of-tree code or binary to be part of >> in-house source tree. > > I am not sure this is really true. If I

Re: [U-Boot] What if ATF can be part of U-Boot source, like SPL?

2019-06-29 Thread André Przywara
On 29/06/2019 16:02, Jagan Teki wrote: > In terms of code maintenance and development feasibility it is always > a better approach to have out-of-tree code or binary to be part of > in-house source tree. I am not sure this is really true. If I get you right, you want to mirror and sync the ATF

Re: [U-Boot] What if ATF can be part of U-Boot source, like SPL?

2019-06-29 Thread Marek Vasut
On 6/29/19 5:02 PM, Jagan Teki wrote: > In terms of code maintenance and development feasibility it is always > a better approach to have out-of-tree code or binary to be part of > in-house source tree. You are free to do so locally, but following this train of thought would possibly lead to

Re: [U-Boot] What if ATF can be part of U-Boot source, like SPL?

2019-06-29 Thread Mark Kettenis
> From: Jagan Teki > Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2019 20:32:00 +0530 > > In terms of code maintenance and development feasibility it is always > a better approach to have out-of-tree code or binary to be part of > in-house source tree. I disagree. This strategy often leads to diverging codebases where

[U-Boot] What if ATF can be part of U-Boot source, like SPL?

2019-06-29 Thread Jagan Teki
In terms of code maintenance and development feasibility it is always a better approach to have out-of-tree code or binary to be part of in-house source tree. This is what exactly it was done for SPL, if I'm not wrong. So can we do the same thing for ATF on ARM64 SoCs? We are using ATF (on