Re: [U-Boot] [PATCH v10 4/4] common: Generic firmware loader for file system

2018-03-15 Thread Tom Rini
On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 07:18:20AM +, Chee, Tien Fong wrote:
> On Thu, 2018-03-08 at 14:04 -0700, Simon Glass wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > On 7 March 2018 at 22:03, Chee, Tien Fong 
> > wrote:
> > > 
> > > On Tue, 2018-03-06 at 10:51 -0700, Simon Glass wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Hi,
> > > > 
> > > > On 5 March 2018 at 02:43,   wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > From: Tien Fong Chee 
> > > > > 
> > > > > This is file system generic loader which can be used to load
> > > > > the file image from the storage into target such as memory.
> > > > > The consumer driver would then use this loader to program
> > > > > whatever,
> > > > > ie. the FPGA device.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Signed-off-by: Tien Fong Chee 
> > > > > Reviewed-by: Lothar Waßmann 
> > > > > ---
> > > > >  common/Kconfig |  10 ++
> > > > >  common/Makefile|   1 +
> > > > >  common/fs_loader.c | 353
> > > > > +
> > > > >  doc/README.firmware_loader |  86 +++
> > > > >  include/fs_loader.h|  28 
> > > > >  5 files changed, 478 insertions(+)
> > > > >  create mode 100644 common/fs_loader.c
> > > > >  create mode 100644 doc/README.firmware_loader
> > > > >  create mode 100644 include/fs_loader.h
> > > > This looks fine as a concept but I am not keen on the
> > > > implementation.
> > > > 
> > > This patchset has been going through many rounds and a lot of time
> > > spending in review, and it is already working and being tested. I
> > > still
> > > have a lot subsequent patches pending on this patchset. I would
> > > suggest
> > > to accept this patchset, then we can enhance it to driver model in
> > > later.
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 1. It should use driver model (only) in U-Boot proper. If there
> > > > is
> > > > some SPL problem then add a specific function or feature for SPL.
> > > We can doing this in later since it is require sometime to figure
> > > out
> > > and testing.
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 2. It should not be necessary ti manually init subsystems -
> > > > driver
> > > > model does this for you
> > > This is for initializing storage driver in very early SPL, where
> > > loading from storage to configure some critical HW need to done
> > > first.
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 3. You can use the uclass name to find things
> > > Yeah, once it is converted to driver model, we can use the uclass
> > > for
> > > searching HW info in DTS.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Please let me know if you need more info.
> > Well I'm still not keen on this. Are you planning to do the
> > conversion? It seems like a lot of work for someone else to do.
> > 
> Okay, i will try to convert it into driver model.

Thanks!

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Re: [U-Boot] [PATCH v10 4/4] common: Generic firmware loader for file system

2018-03-15 Thread Chee, Tien Fong
On Thu, 2018-03-08 at 14:04 -0700, Simon Glass wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On 7 March 2018 at 22:03, Chee, Tien Fong 
> wrote:
> > 
> > On Tue, 2018-03-06 at 10:51 -0700, Simon Glass wrote:
> > > 
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > On 5 March 2018 at 02:43,   wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > From: Tien Fong Chee 
> > > > 
> > > > This is file system generic loader which can be used to load
> > > > the file image from the storage into target such as memory.
> > > > The consumer driver would then use this loader to program
> > > > whatever,
> > > > ie. the FPGA device.
> > > > 
> > > > Signed-off-by: Tien Fong Chee 
> > > > Reviewed-by: Lothar Waßmann 
> > > > ---
> > > >  common/Kconfig |  10 ++
> > > >  common/Makefile|   1 +
> > > >  common/fs_loader.c | 353
> > > > +
> > > >  doc/README.firmware_loader |  86 +++
> > > >  include/fs_loader.h|  28 
> > > >  5 files changed, 478 insertions(+)
> > > >  create mode 100644 common/fs_loader.c
> > > >  create mode 100644 doc/README.firmware_loader
> > > >  create mode 100644 include/fs_loader.h
> > > This looks fine as a concept but I am not keen on the
> > > implementation.
> > > 
> > This patchset has been going through many rounds and a lot of time
> > spending in review, and it is already working and being tested. I
> > still
> > have a lot subsequent patches pending on this patchset. I would
> > suggest
> > to accept this patchset, then we can enhance it to driver model in
> > later.
> > 
> > > 
> > > 1. It should use driver model (only) in U-Boot proper. If there
> > > is
> > > some SPL problem then add a specific function or feature for SPL.
> > We can doing this in later since it is require sometime to figure
> > out
> > and testing.
> > 
> > > 
> > > 2. It should not be necessary ti manually init subsystems -
> > > driver
> > > model does this for you
> > This is for initializing storage driver in very early SPL, where
> > loading from storage to configure some critical HW need to done
> > first.
> > 
> > > 
> > > 3. You can use the uclass name to find things
> > Yeah, once it is converted to driver model, we can use the uclass
> > for
> > searching HW info in DTS.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Please let me know if you need more info.
> Well I'm still not keen on this. Are you planning to do the
> conversion? It seems like a lot of work for someone else to do.
> 
Okay, i will try to convert it into driver model.

> Regards,
> Simon
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Re: [U-Boot] [PATCH v10 4/4] common: Generic firmware loader for file system

2018-03-08 Thread Wolfgang Denk
Dear Tien Fong,

In message <1520485397.10181.12.ca...@intel.com> you wrote:
>
> > This looks fine as a concept but I am not keen on the implementation.
> > 
> This patchset has been going through many rounds and a lot of time
> spending in review, and it is already working and being tested. I still

That's life

> have a lot subsequent patches pending on this patchset. I would suggest
> to accept this patchset, then we can enhance it to driver model in
> later.

No.  The usual approach is to _first_ clean up the code, _before_ it
gets added.  there have been just too many cases that interest in
cleaning up disappeared quickly once the unclean version was pulled
into mainline.

> > 1. It should use driver model (only) in U-Boot proper. If there is
> > some SPL problem then add a specific function or feature for SPL.
> We can doing this in later since it is require sometime to figure out
> and testing.

We can also do it now, and that is better.

> > 2. It should not be necessary ti manually init subsystems - driver
> > model does this for you
> This is for initializing storage driver in very early SPL, where
> loading from storage to configure some critical HW need to done first.

The key problem is that your approach does not scale.  We had the
same discussion elsewhere.

> > 3. You can use the uclass name to find things
> Yeah, once it is converted to driver model, we can use the uclass for
> searching HW info in DTS.

Then please convert it.

Thanks.

Best regards,

Wolfgang Denk

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I read part of it all the way through.
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Re: [U-Boot] [PATCH v10 4/4] common: Generic firmware loader for file system

2018-03-08 Thread Simon Glass
Hi,

On 7 March 2018 at 22:03, Chee, Tien Fong  wrote:
> On Tue, 2018-03-06 at 10:51 -0700, Simon Glass wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 5 March 2018 at 02:43,   wrote:
>> >
>> > From: Tien Fong Chee 
>> >
>> > This is file system generic loader which can be used to load
>> > the file image from the storage into target such as memory.
>> > The consumer driver would then use this loader to program whatever,
>> > ie. the FPGA device.
>> >
>> > Signed-off-by: Tien Fong Chee 
>> > Reviewed-by: Lothar Waßmann 
>> > ---
>> >  common/Kconfig |  10 ++
>> >  common/Makefile|   1 +
>> >  common/fs_loader.c | 353
>> > +
>> >  doc/README.firmware_loader |  86 +++
>> >  include/fs_loader.h|  28 
>> >  5 files changed, 478 insertions(+)
>> >  create mode 100644 common/fs_loader.c
>> >  create mode 100644 doc/README.firmware_loader
>> >  create mode 100644 include/fs_loader.h
>> This looks fine as a concept but I am not keen on the implementation.
>>
> This patchset has been going through many rounds and a lot of time
> spending in review, and it is already working and being tested. I still
> have a lot subsequent patches pending on this patchset. I would suggest
> to accept this patchset, then we can enhance it to driver model in
> later.
>
>> 1. It should use driver model (only) in U-Boot proper. If there is
>> some SPL problem then add a specific function or feature for SPL.
> We can doing this in later since it is require sometime to figure out
> and testing.
>
>> 2. It should not be necessary ti manually init subsystems - driver
>> model does this for you
> This is for initializing storage driver in very early SPL, where
> loading from storage to configure some critical HW need to done first.
>
>> 3. You can use the uclass name to find things
> Yeah, once it is converted to driver model, we can use the uclass for
> searching HW info in DTS.
>>
>> Please let me know if you need more info.

Well I'm still not keen on this. Are you planning to do the
conversion? It seems like a lot of work for someone else to do.

Regards,
Simon
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Re: [U-Boot] [PATCH v10 4/4] common: Generic firmware loader for file system

2018-03-07 Thread Chee, Tien Fong
On Tue, 2018-03-06 at 10:51 -0700, Simon Glass wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On 5 March 2018 at 02:43,   wrote:
> > 
> > From: Tien Fong Chee 
> > 
> > This is file system generic loader which can be used to load
> > the file image from the storage into target such as memory.
> > The consumer driver would then use this loader to program whatever,
> > ie. the FPGA device.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Tien Fong Chee 
> > Reviewed-by: Lothar Waßmann 
> > ---
> >  common/Kconfig |  10 ++
> >  common/Makefile|   1 +
> >  common/fs_loader.c | 353
> > +
> >  doc/README.firmware_loader |  86 +++
> >  include/fs_loader.h|  28 
> >  5 files changed, 478 insertions(+)
> >  create mode 100644 common/fs_loader.c
> >  create mode 100644 doc/README.firmware_loader
> >  create mode 100644 include/fs_loader.h
> This looks fine as a concept but I am not keen on the implementation.
> 
This patchset has been going through many rounds and a lot of time
spending in review, and it is already working and being tested. I still
have a lot subsequent patches pending on this patchset. I would suggest
to accept this patchset, then we can enhance it to driver model in
later.

> 1. It should use driver model (only) in U-Boot proper. If there is
> some SPL problem then add a specific function or feature for SPL.
We can doing this in later since it is require sometime to figure out
and testing.

> 2. It should not be necessary ti manually init subsystems - driver
> model does this for you
This is for initializing storage driver in very early SPL, where
loading from storage to configure some critical HW need to done first.

> 3. You can use the uclass name to find things
Yeah, once it is converted to driver model, we can use the uclass for
searching HW info in DTS.
> 
> Please let me know if you need more info.
> 
> Regards,
> Simon
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Re: [U-Boot] [PATCH v10 4/4] common: Generic firmware loader for file system

2018-03-06 Thread Simon Glass
Hi,

On 5 March 2018 at 02:43,   wrote:
> From: Tien Fong Chee 
>
> This is file system generic loader which can be used to load
> the file image from the storage into target such as memory.
> The consumer driver would then use this loader to program whatever,
> ie. the FPGA device.
>
> Signed-off-by: Tien Fong Chee 
> Reviewed-by: Lothar Waßmann 
> ---
>  common/Kconfig |  10 ++
>  common/Makefile|   1 +
>  common/fs_loader.c | 353 
> +
>  doc/README.firmware_loader |  86 +++
>  include/fs_loader.h|  28 
>  5 files changed, 478 insertions(+)
>  create mode 100644 common/fs_loader.c
>  create mode 100644 doc/README.firmware_loader
>  create mode 100644 include/fs_loader.h

This looks fine as a concept but I am not keen on the implementation.

1. It should use driver model (only) in U-Boot proper. If there is
some SPL problem then add a specific function or feature for SPL.
2. It should not be necessary ti manually init subsystems - driver
model does this for you
3. You can use the uclass name to find things

Please let me know if you need more info.

Regards,
Simon
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