[U2] Anti-fraud software

2013-08-01 Thread Jerry Banker
Are any of you using some sort of anti-fraud software? If so, what? Did you 
build it yourself or is there a software package out there that will work with 
UniVerse.  
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Re: [U2] Anti-fraud software

2013-08-01 Thread Jerry Banker
Software written in UniVerse that monitors anti-fraud activity or even software 
that is built outside of UniVerse that can monitor anti-fraud activity inside.

 From: br...@brianleach.co.uk
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 19:09:24 +0100
 Subject: Re: [U2] Anti-fraud software
 
 Jerry
 
 Do you mean
 
 Software written in UniVerse that monitors anti-fraud activity
 
 Or
 
 Software written to prevent fraudulent use of a UniVerse application?
 
 Brian
 
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 Sent: 01 August 2013 17:54
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 Subject: [U2] Anti-fraud software
 
 Are any of you using some sort of anti-fraud software? If so, what? Did you
 build it yourself or is there a software package out there that will work
 with UniVerse.  
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Re: [U2] Anti-fraud software

2013-08-01 Thread Jerry Banker
We are a billing and collections company, as you can imagine we sometimes have 
fraudulent claims. We want to monitor fraudulent behavior by various parties 
that use our service to prevent our becoming a party to it. We already have 
means of controlling access to our software.
 From: 3xk547...@sneakemail.com
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 11:28:18 -0700
 Subject: Re: [U2] Anti-fraud software
 
  From: Jerry Banker 
  Are any of you using some sort of anti-fraud software? If so, what?
 Did
  you build it yourself or is there a software package out there that
 will
  work with UniVerse.
 
 Could you be more specific?
 
 If you're talking about protecting your BASIC apps in the field, I can
 describe how our Nebula RD products are activated and protected.
 Comments and suggestions are welcome from our colleagues here.
 
 In summary, I have a security mechanism which I've considered offering
 as a separate product. The user sends a key request and we return a
 key which locks the product to the specific system over a limited or
 infinite period of time. It's evolved in response to changing
 environments, and now works with all MV platforms and versions, OS's
 and OS versions, can be used with different company products, and keys
 to specific product versions. I can provide more info on request.
 
 Tony Gravagno 
 Nebula Research and Development   
 TG@ remove.pleaseNebula-RnD.com   
 
 
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Re: [U2] History of Prime Information

2013-04-29 Thread Jerry Banker
Prime Information was originally developed by Devcom I'm not sure what the name 
was at that time but I do know that Prime Computers bought them out and bought 
the rights from Pick to develop independently. Prime became a database 
powerhouse with the product at one time encompassing almost 50% of the database 
business in the US. From what I heard Vmark was a group of users of Prime 
Information that decided to go UNIX so they developed UniVerse borrowing much 
of the expertise from Prime to build a product that would ride on UNIX instead 
of Primos, Prime's operating system. They even took over some of the offices 
that Prime had on Speen Street. When Prime went under, don't ask why, at the 
end of the 80's, early 90's, Vmark bought Prime Information.
 

 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 From: wjhon...@aol.com
 Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 12:03:37 -0400
 Subject: Re: [U2] History of Prime Information
 
 What is the origin of Prime Information?
 How did that come about?
 
 The histories I've seen so far about Prime focus almost exclusively in the 
 hardware.  Who developed Information ? Why did they make it Pick like ?  
 Where did they go ?
 
 
  
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[U2] UniVerse on a Windows Virtual Server

2012-11-21 Thread Jerry Banker




We have two virtual servers with UniVerse on them, one for testing and another 
for development both used just for that purpose and not tuned for production. 
We are thinking of going virtual with our production environment. We are using 
Windows as the operating system and don't plan on switching.I've been asked to 
get opinions from the users group from people that have gone into using 
virtualization with their production environment.What are the pro's and 
con's?Any suggestions on how to set the systems up?We have less than 75 users 
with device licenses using the apps on a regular basis, plus web users.Our 
current UV release is 10.3.3 32 bit on Windows 2008 sp2 64 bit, should we 
switch to a more current version and/or 64 bit Universe?Any experiences would 
be helpful. 

Thank you,

Jerry Banker

Sr Software Engineer

T  800.233.8483  |  F
573.374.9972  |  WWW.AFFILIATED.ORG

  
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[U2] XML and UV

2011-10-14 Thread Jerry Banker

I've been looking through the documentation that comes with UniVerse trying to 
find a subroutine that can be used in a UniBasic program that will take an XML 
document, in any of the many ways of formatting XML, and return the file, 
field, and data. Do you have to build a program to do this for each file you 
recieve or is there a built in subroutine that will parse any document and give 
you the data you need.
 
Jerry 
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[U2] Shards

2011-07-14 Thread Jerry Banker




Strange I was reading this article on sharding 
(http://technoroy.blogspot.com/2008/07/shard-database-design.html) and I 
starting thinking as I read. We can do this in UniBasic using UniVerse and 
distributed files, what's the big deal. Granted I may not be as up on this as 
some of the newbees but I have a few years of decyphering technical newspeak 
and it looks like some of the things that a shard is, is already being done 
in U2. Distributed files, where you can set up tables to be accessed separately 
or together, has been around since PI days. Like data, being stored together 
with a single read and single write is a mainstay of any of the Pick databases. 
Jerry  
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[U2] Windows DFS Replication

2011-06-27 Thread Jerry Banker

Is anyone using Windows DFS Replication with UniVerse on Windows Server 2008?
 
Jerry 
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[U2] UV spooler daemon not responding.

2008-03-17 Thread Jerry Banker
UV 10.2.4 Linux AS release 3 Kernel 2.4.21-15.EL x86_64



For some unknown reason when trying to mount a form on a printer my
system will hang. The only way to get it un-hung is to stop the spooler
and restart it. Sometimes the form requested shows that it has been
mounted sometimes and at other times it has not. Sometimes the printer
has been deactivated and the only way to reactivate it is to stop and
restart the spooler again because the option for activating an
individual printer also hangs. I get the following message in the
err.log file.



usa: no response from daemon Date:  03/17/2008 11:03:33



I have another system that is set up almost identical, except it has UV
10.1.12, and it works fine.



Any ideas?



Jerry Banker

Senior Programmer Analyst

IBM Certified Solutions Expert

Affiliated Acceptance Corp

Sunrise Beach, MO

1-800-233-8483

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RE: [U2] UV spooler daemon not responding. [not-secure]

2008-03-17 Thread Jerry Banker
Anybody know if this is available for download? We never received the
10.2 version of this because we bought a 5 user workgroup edition for
our test system and what we received was 10.2.4. Our main system is
still on 10.1.12 server edition. The only thing I've found available on
the web is a windows personal edition version of 10.2.8.

Jerry Banker


 -Original Message-
 From: Hennessey, Mark F. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 2:50 PM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: RE: [U2] UV spooler daemon not responding. [not-secure]
 
 Jerry:
 
 snip
 UV 10.2.4 Linux AS release 3 Kernel 2.4.21-15.EL x86_64
 
 For some unknown reason when trying to mount a form on a printer my
 system will hang. The only way to get it un-hung is to stop the
spooler
 and restart it.
 
 /snip
 
 Ahh.. the USA bug... From an e-mail I got from IBM some months ago:
 
 ... between UniVerse 10.2.1 and 10.2.5, usa would hang when any
 parameters were sent to it.  This is fixed in UniVerse 10.2.6 and
 higher.
 There is a workaround for this problem.  It is to use the usa
 executable
 from UniVerse 10.2.0. ...
 
 If you can get the 10.2.0 file copy it to /.uvhome/bin, then copy it
to
 usm and usp... And as quick as Robert is your mother's brother, you'll
 be up and running.
 
 
 
 
 Mark Hennessey
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RE: [U2] Indexes

2008-03-14 Thread Jerry Banker
Keep it simple! In a program you can use SELECTINDEX and from a command
line use SELECT with the SAVING UNIQUE keywords.

Jerry Banker

 -Original Message-
 From: Scott Ballinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 9:22 AM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: Re: [U2] Indexes
 
 There is no function like the T correlative to translate to an indexed
 file
 from a dict item, so you will need to do in BASIC as an I-type. The
 command
 is BSCAN, e,g.
 
 BSCAN BVAL,ID.LIST FROM FV,ID USING FIELDNAME ELSE BVAL = 
 
 ID.LIST contains an AM delimited list of keys to records in file FV
 than
 match ID in FIELDNAME.
 BVAL  is the value of the indexed attribute that matches ID. If there
 was no
 match, then BVAL will be the next indexed value past ID, so I always
 test if
 BVAL = ID.
 FV is the open file variable to the indexed file.
 ID is the value you are searching for in the indexed FIELDNAME.
 FIELDNAME is the name of the indexed fields in FV (e.g. CREATE.INDEX
 MYFILE
 FIELDNAME).
 
 A BY SEQ clause is optional, SEQ is either A or D for ascending
 or
 descending, (ascending is the default).
 
 See HELP BASIC BSCAN
 
 I usually loop on BSCAN until BVAL NE ID. I am not sure if that is
 always
 necessary.
 
 I use I-types that incorporate BSCAN to return values from indexed
 files all
 the time. It works great.
 
 /Scott Ballinger
 Pareto Corporation
 Edmonds WA USA
 206 713 6006
 
 
 On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 3:03 AM, Dennis Bartlett
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  My dumb question for the day (just cant remember how to... and the
  manual's
  example is too simplistic...)
 
  How do I programmatically get an index value out,
  eg
  I have a STOCK file, and a REPAIRS file. Whoever designed this needs
 their
  head read, but the repairs file only has the stock code as a
 reference in
  the record. I have indexed the repair file on stock code, and need
to
  create
  a report on the stock file of how many items are under repair.
 
  1. UniverseBASIC code?
 
  2. is this possible from an Itype?
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RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-11 Thread Jerry Banker
Does that mean he's going to have to do it with one hand tied behind his
back? :-) Sorry Kevin I just had to do it.

Jerry Banker

 -Original Message-
 From: Kevin King [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 9:40 PM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: Re: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case
 
 Bill... I never meant to imply that a) I was offended, b) that I'm
 somehow
 any better than anyone else on this list, or c) that I'm a slow
typist.
 I
 actually went through typing in high school (a most traumatic story)
 and got
 reasonably good at touch typing in college until an accident left me
 without
 use of my right arm/hand for several weeks.  And what language was I
 fully
 ensconced in at the time?  COBOL!  Can you believe it, I had to type
 something like 4000 lines of COBOL with my left hand only.  Since then
 my
 right hand has been effectively useless for typing (with the exception
 of my
 thumb) but for some reason I can still whip out the letters - as long
 as I
 don't have to shift! :-)
 
 Understanding that this is largely a moot/preference issue, and
without
 the
 pretense of better (in terms of personnel) I would still be
 interested in
 some kind of fun challenge to better understand others' perspectives
on
 this
 issue.  We might not actually achieve anything but the consumption of
 copious volumes of cold beverages, but even if that's all there is to
 it,
 there's still entertainment value there!
 
 -K
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RE: [U2] [UV] odd write failure in 10.2.7

2008-03-11 Thread Jerry Banker
No index?

Jerry Banker


 -Original Message-
 From: John Hester [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 11:56 AM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: RE: [U2] [UV] odd write failure in 10.2.7
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin King
  Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 7:45 PM
  To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
  Subject: Re: [U2] [UV] odd write failure in 10.2.7
 
  Any triggers on the file?
 
 Nope, no triggers.
 
 -John
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RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-10 Thread Jerry Banker
I started to write this many times and each time it went against what my
Mama always said, If you can't say anything nice then don't say
anything at all. Yes, I know that was also said it Bambi but it was
around long before the movie. Mixed case programming is a relatively new
way of programming and if you have had any time in the business you
would realize this. Yes most programmers didn't learn typing because
during the years when we went to school very few straight males took
typing. Personally I think you should be thankful that those bumbling
two finger geeks created the language that puts bread on your table.

Jerry Banker


 -Original Message-
 From: Bill Haskett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 4:31 PM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case
 
 Kevin:
 
 I'm sorry to say, on this rare occasion I disagree with your
 assessment.
 
 First, anyone who learned to type has no problem with the [Shift] key
 being used.  In
 fact, those who've learned to type often type words instead of letters
 so there is
 nothing efficient in saving the [Shift] keystroke; to be honest,
it's
 usually a
 problem not to include the key as part of the overall typing
framework.
 I often
 laugh when I see C code because I know it was designed by geeks who
 couldn't type
 and are, ultimately, two finger peckers.  :-)
 
 To those who say they don't have time to learn how to type I say they
 have an
 obligation to learn to use the tools of their trade.  Do accountants
 not know how
 to use a 10-Key?  Do doctors not know how to use a stethoscope?  Do
 carpenters not
 know how to use a plane?  Of course they know how to use them!
 
 With that said, let's look at some of the major aggravations of this
 case issue.
 Most of us, not all but most, have multiple windows open when we work.
 We may have a
 web browser open, or an email client, a word processor, a spreadsheet,
 or other
 applications.  All of these applications, and I mean all of them,
 expect [Caps
 Lock] to be off (in fact, so does Unix)!  When we move our focus to a
 U2 window we
 have to turn that darned function back on.  When we go back to one of
 the other
 applications we end up typing cAPS lOCK all the time.  This is so
 true that even
 when we watch demonstrations, where U2 is in the mix, we see the
 demonstrator having
 the same problem over, and over, and over (like switching back to U2
 from another
 window to enter a TCL command, then backspacing over the typed in
 command to change
 it to upper case).  For those who spend the majority of their time in
 the U2
 environment, [Caps Lock] is probably set to on.  However, for most of
 the rest of us
 it's a colossal aggravation, over, and over, and over.
 
 U2 (UV much more than UD) has come up with some partial solutions to
 this casing
 issue (because they recognize the error of their ways but it's too
much
 trouble to
 fix it).  UD is tough at ECL because case makes a big difference in an
 ECL verb.
 Having an ECL shell processor that can upper-case all commands doesn't
 quite work in
 UD when one wants to use a lower case ECL verb.  With case
sensitivity,
 it's clear
 there is a difference between the variable CUSTOMER.REC and
 Customer.Rec.  I'm not at
 all convinced those who've thought this through really would create
one
 variable
 CUSTOMER.REC and another variable Customer.Rec.  Yet, again,
upper-
 casing
 forces everyone to work around its serious limitations.  The only
 place where I've
 found case to be important, other than in MV, is in command line
 options in Unix
 (here we run into those two finger geeks again).  :-)
 
 Upper case is an anachronism and should be treated as such rather than
 defended.  It
 is unwieldy for far too many and, in fact, interferes with efficient
 typing at every
 turn.  Forcing people to use [Caps Lock] in U2 while all other used
 applications
 require [Caps Lock] to be off is a egalitarian ruse for autocracy.
:-)
 
 This is, of course, IMHO...
 
 Bill
 
 
 
   _
 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-u2-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Kevin King
 Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 9:39 AM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: Re: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case
 
 
 
 I am admittedly a dinosaur of the upper-case bent with U2.  Before I
 put on
 my flame suit, hear me out..
 
 We developers type thousands - possibly even millions - of characters
 of
 code per year   To press the letter R with caps lock on or off is
 only one
 keypress - keeping in mind the state of the cApS LocK.  To type READU
 then
 is only 5.  ReadU however, is 7 - an increase of 40%.  Now, assuming
 that a
 typical program is 4000 characters, there's a potential of an
 additional
 1000+ shift keypresses just to maintain case.  Meaningless, you say?
 Everything we do takes an investment of time, and even a fraction of a
 second can turn into a significant investment when multiplied times
 millions

RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-10 Thread Jerry Banker
If you ever want a scare then go through the programs in the Universe BP
file. Some are upper case program lines with mixed case comments and
prompts, the way I prefer it, some are all lower case, some are mixed
case, and some are a mixture of all types. In the latter it appears that
whomever was programming at the time picked their preferred case. So it
appears not only we mere mortals have a problem deciding what standard
to use.
My problem with mixed case in a program is not necessarily a reading
issue but a search issue. Let's take the example of the variable var,
if you use all caps it is easy to find, search on VAR. You can do the
same thing if you have all lower case but then the programming doesn't
stand out from the comments or the prompts. If you program in mixed
(camel) case then you would have to start looking for VAR, VAr,
VaR, Var, vAR, vAr, vaR, and var, I know that no one would
use a three letter variable in this way but it is possible and this is
just a three letter variable. You can see what happens if you use a
longer variable or command or by throwing in numbers and special
characters. It explodes exponentially.

Jerry Banker

 -Original Message-
 From: Kevin King [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 10:36 AM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: Re: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case
 
 I understand your point Brian. So what do we do with the situation
 where
 upper case is actually more readable to me and yet less readable to
 you?
 How do we rationalize such a dichotomy?
 
 -K
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RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-10 Thread Jerry Banker
I was not trying to offend anyone with that remark but back in the day
typing was something that girls took and boys took shop. It was a fact
not an accusation. Although I think it would have been a great asset for
me today at the time it was hard enough trying to get through all of the
social pressures without creating an additional one of my own making.
Social norms change and today both genders do and should learn how to
type because most of the kids will go into office jobs. Back then most
men were likely to end up tightening a nut and bolt.

Jerry Banker


 -Original Message-
 From: Eric Armstrong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 3:15 PM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case
 
 Along with Robert I also took Typing (along with football, tennis,
 soccer)
 in High School and am glad I did.
 
 Eric
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Robert Houben [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 10:24 AM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case
 
 
 BTW, to the comment about straight guys not taking typing:  I know
that
 they
 didn't usually, but when I was in high school back in the plasticine
 epoch
 (right after the Pleistocene epoch), a bunch of my friends and I took
 typing
 because we thought it would be an easy course (and there were girls in
 it!)
 Given my career, it was one of the most useful courses I took in High
 School
 - one of the few, in fact, where I can say that I still clearly reap
 the
 benefits of it every day!
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RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-10 Thread Jerry Banker
You should have seen what happened when my daughter decided to take Auto
Shop. The instructors blood pressure must have nearly doubled when he
found out he had a girl in his class. And that was just 8 years ago.

Jerry Banker


 -Original Message-
 From: Robert Houben [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 4:54 PM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case
 
 No offence taken.  I got your point.  I was just pointing out that
some
 boys saw benefits courses like typing! :)  I think we took it for
 reasons that were a bit unusual, but it sure worked out in the long
 run!
 
 BTW, my sister was the first girl to break into shop along with a
 friend of hers at our high school.  We really broke the mold...
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-u2-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry Banker
 Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 1:59 PM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case
 
 I was not trying to offend anyone with that remark but back in the day
 typing was something that girls took and boys took shop. It was a fact
 not an accusation. Although I think it would have been a great asset
 for
 me today at the time it was hard enough trying to get through all of
 the
 social pressures without creating an additional one of my own making.
 Social norms change and today both genders do and should learn how to
 type because most of the kids will go into office jobs. Back then most
 men were likely to end up tightening a nut and bolt.
 
 Jerry Banker
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Eric Armstrong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 3:15 PM
  To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
  Subject: RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case
 
  Along with Robert I also took Typing (along with football, tennis,
  soccer)
  in High School and am glad I did.
 
  Eric
 
 
  -Original Message-
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  Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 10:24 AM
  To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
  Subject: RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case
 
 
  BTW, to the comment about straight guys not taking typing:  I know
 that
  they
  didn't usually, but when I was in high school back in the plasticine
  epoch
  (right after the Pleistocene epoch), a bunch of my friends and I
took
  typing
  because we thought it would be an easy course (and there were girls
 in
  it!)
  Given my career, it was one of the most useful courses I took in
High
  School
  - one of the few, in fact, where I can say that I still clearly reap
  the
  benefits of it every day!
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RE: [U2] INCLUDE weirdo

2008-03-07 Thread Jerry Banker
All I can say is, you must have a lot of free time. I sometimes have
three or four projects going at the same time while also making bug
fixes, helping users, managing the database, making minor changes to
programs, and helping to train a new programmer. Some of our code is
close to 20 years old. When I find free time to work on an older program
I might get enough time to restructure the goto's out of it and I feel
like I've accomplished something. There are three of us now, at one time
we had 5.

Jerry Banker

 -Original Message-
 From: Rex Gozar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 8:16 AM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: Re: [U2] INCLUDE weirdo
 
 Dennis,
 
 I've started to document the steps I've taken to cleanup bad code.
You
 or anyone else interested can read them at:
 
 http://www.pickwiki.com/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Project_Cleansweep
 
 I'm not done since there is a lot to cover.  I hope to add more over
 the
 next few weeks.
 
 rex
 
 Dennis Bartlett wrote:
  Welll
 
  I use Notepad++ to edit, on a LIVE system, making every error
 instantly
  visible in 11 branches across a 300km range...
 
  yes, of course I'm using version control, its called panic 101,
aka
 The
  Fire Station...
 
 
  Rex Gozar WROTE:
 
  You ARE using source code control tools (i.e. not home grown
 procedures),
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RE: [U2] INCLUDE weirdo

2008-03-07 Thread Jerry Banker
Or listening to the core play their favorite song on the transistor
radio placed on top of the memory subsystem. :)

Jerry Banker


 -Original Message-
 From: Tim Stokes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 2:47 PM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: RE: [U2] INCLUDE weirdo
 
 We must remember that programming and computers in general has changed
 much since the beginning.
 How many remember punch cards.
 
 Can programmers today relate to a time when programmers submitted
there
 code to be placed on punched cards?
 
 How about a half a day turnaround to see if your program compiled? And
 the fun task of reading core dumps.
 
 There are many factors to consider.
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RE: [U2] Estimating Timelines

2008-03-07 Thread Jerry Banker
Analysis, design, and testing always take longer than programming. Even
with a code change of one line you may take a lot of time analyzing the
problem and the best way to fix it.

Jerry Banker


 -Original Message-
 From: John Rodgers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 4:01 PM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: [U2] Estimating Timelines
 
 Snipped from Louie's contribution on the Include Wierdness
 
 - I have noticed that some programmers inflate their estimates by
 10
   times, just so they will look good finishing early.  We have to
 beaccurate, without lying.
 
 
 Speaking for myself, this is usually necessary because today's
 applications are so complex that all the dependencies are impossible
to
 forecast.
 
 It is not a question of lying - it is a question of trying to
 anticipate
 the worst case.
 The first estimate you give is the only one that management (your
 customers)  will ever remember. You can explain the changed
 circumstances until you are blue in the face - it makes no difference.
 The customer cannot see the issues. You are late in delivering.
 
 
 A good example just occurred today.
 
 Set up a control flag for particular function.
 
 Easy enough - we already have a screen for these things - just add one
 field
 Should be about an hour. Tops. No big deal.
 
 Add the field and test it.
 SB+ spits it back at me with a matrix out of range error.
 
 These are linked screens - we are on the fifth screen.
 I smell a big problem.
 
 I create a sixth screen and put the field on that additional screen.
 Now I get a different (more informative) message. Too many fields on
 linked screens.
 
 As I suspected - we have hit the limit of this arrangement. We are on
 an
 old version.
 
 Now I have to totally re-design this set of screens.
 With Page forward and back keys
 Don't forget the Inquiry mode - How do I make those use the same
screen
 defns?
 Make sure it functions exactly as it did before - it does not want
to
 because the sub-screens are a different herd of cats.
 
 Now, how much time should I have estimated for this task?
 And this is not unusual.
 
 Does anyone out there have any thoughts on THIS issue?
 I think it (estimating timelines) is one of the more difficult tasks
we
 face. Especially when interfacing to an existing mature application.
 Coding is the easy part of this job.
 
 
 Cheers
 
 
 JR
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 John Rodgers
 
 Masonite International
 
 Tel:  (813) 2612396 ext 3036
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RE: [U2] INCLUDE weirdo

2008-03-05 Thread Jerry Banker
Dianne is correct. Your code looks like it was built by a CASE tool.

Jerry Banker


 -Original Message-
 From: Dianne Ackerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 9:28 AM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: Re: [U2] INCLUDE weirdo
 
 Whatever salary you're making, it's not enough! :)
 -Dianne
 
 Dennis Bartlett wrote:
 
 Currently the system uses the following coding structure:
 
 OPEN 'HPMAST.FILE' TO F1 ELSE STOP
 OPEN 'HPCONTRACT' TO F2 ELSE STOP
 OPEN 'HPTRANS.FILE' TO F3 ELSE STOP
 READ F1R FROM F1, KEY THEN...
 READ F2R FROM F2, KEY THEN...
 READ F3R FROM F3, KEY THEN...
 F1R36,X = F2R13 / F3R82 * F1R8 + F3R43
 
 Just understanding the code takes a lot of backwards and forwards
thru
 code.
 
 This wouldn't be so bad if they had at least standardised of F1
always
 being
 HPMAST, but they didn't, so the next program does this
 
 OPEN 'HPCONTRACT' TO F1 ELSE STOP
 OPEN 'HPTRANS.FILE' TO F2 ELSE STOP
 OPEN 'HPMAST.FILE' TO F3 ELSE STOP
 READ F1R FROM F1, KEY THEN...
 READ F2R FROM F2, KEY THEN...
 READ F3R FROM F3, KEY THEN...
 F1R36,X = F2R13 / F3R82 * F1R8 + F3R43
 
 The formula at the bottom looks identical to the formula above but
 it's a
 totally different file / field combo. Multiply this by around 1700
 programs
 and you begin to get a sense of what I face. If a program hits a file
 or
 record error it simply stops with no feedback to the user that the
 update is
 complete. Data integrity is an illusion.
 
 The system has been migrated from Pick, but without all the code
being
 converted. As a result one has to try compile with a PICK compile,
and
 if
 that fails, try a universe style compile. The dictionaries for the
 most part
 contain only F1, F2, F3 with the heading correct some of the time,
and
 fields in use that do not appear in the dictionaries.
 
 Thus far I have started changing code to always open HPMAST to
 F.HPMAST, and
 to always read HPMAST into HPMAST.R. Code takes on a whole new
meaning
 when
 you know what file you're working with.
 
 An additional swing is that every summary total is always calculated
-
 nothing is stored. This means that every program that ever displays
 ARREARS
 for example has the code to calculate arrears in it. That makes 200
 separate
 routines with the exact same code in it, just with differing file
 variables
 (ie not a simple swap out).
 
 The code needs to be changed, errors need to be trapped, and
 duplicated code
 weeded out but the time to rewrite complete code doesn't exist. Using
 included code allows me (the only full time programmer) to phase in
 the
 changes as time permits.
 
 The idea is to phase the new code into the system as and when a
 program is
 modified. Most programs create qpointers to the various (15)
branches,
 then
 open the the qpointed files. The method of doing this varies
 considerably
 from program to program, with a bewildering array of possible file
 handles -
 my plan is to create ideal code for opening, reading, writing
files,
 stored in SNIPPETS.
 
 I have started converting the opens to a standard, eg F.HPMAST, and
 read a
 standard record, eg HPMAST.R. Keys variables are set to a standard to
 allow
 the use of INCLUDES. Standardises READ includes, WRITE includes all
 preset
 with error trapping code.
 
 The theory behind the includes thing is that one can still produce a
 full
 listing of the code to debug if required. One can change just a read
 and
 write in a program without having to get involved in other files in
 the
 routine (really messy but allows the process to start and proceed on
a
 very
 part time basis).
 
 Recompiling everything is far less tiring than trying to concentrate
 and not
 leave out code whilst being moved from fire to fire, besides which
 having it
 all in SNIPPETS allows me to get it right in one place and know that
 correction is being filtered into the whole system by a simple
 recompile.
 
 
 
 Adrian Womack wrote:
 
 
 
 Does anyone else think it's bad practice to have code in INCLUDES?
 Surely it would be much better to have the INITIATE.FEEDBACK 
 GIVE.FEEDBACK routines written as subroutines, and then simply call
 them
 from the appropriate spots.
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RE: [U2] Color Laser PCL

2008-02-26 Thread Jerry Banker
Have you also checked that the driver is in raw mode?

Jerry Banker

 -Original Message-
 From: Bob Rasmussen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 12:44 PM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: Re: [U2] Color Laser PCL
 
 On Sat, 23 Feb 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I have posted this in CDP once and got the enclosed answer.
  According to the manual that was quoted, it should be working, but
  it is not. I am using a Dell 3110cn Color laser printer. We are
  printing from Universe with a Windows 2003 server using the windows
  generic text driver. I do get output, but it's always in gray
scale.
  Never in color. Note: when I print the windows test page from
  another pc using the dell drivers, it's in color, so color does
  work. Just not from the PCL below. Any Ideas would be most
 appreciated.
  Here is the program was provided by Frank Winans from CDP.
  Thanks in advance.
  equ ESC to CHAR(27), CBLK to 0, CRED  to 1, CGRN to 2
  equ CYEL to 3, CBLU to 4, CMGN to 5, CCYN TO 6, CWHT TO 7
  EQU ESC TO CHAR(27)
  PRINTER ON
  PRINT ESC:*r3U:  ;* set up an rgb type 8-color palette
  PRINT ESC:*v:CRED:S:
  PRINT Red  :
  PRINT ESC:*v:CBLU:S:
  PRINT Blue :
  PRINT ESC:*v:CBLK:S:
  PRINT  black
  PRINTER OFF
 
 In cases such as this, it is a good idea to divide the process into
 steps,
 and see which step has the problem. For instance, configure your
 printer
 driver to print to file, then run the program, then examine the file
 produced to see it it contains what you expect it to contain. Then
send
 it
 to the printer.
 
 Because I have an HP Color LaserJet 4550 PCL printer (and I'm a nice
 guy),
 I created a file that had those escape sequences (not using Pick, just
 a
 low-level editor), and ran it out to my printer. It printed each word
 in
 the proper color. So that says the code sequence is right, for an
 actual
 PCL printer.
 
 Email me privately if you'd like my test file.
 
 Also, it's possible that there is a problem in using the Generic
 driver.
 Try a different driver.
 
 But consider this: you can spend a LOT of time hand-writing PCL
 sequences.
 If you value your time, you might use a tool to make this easier. With
 our
 Print Wizard product, you could generate the following print data:
 
 =
 PWMLBODYPRE
 FONT color=redRed
 FONT color=blueBlue
 FONT color=blackBlack
 =
 
 ...and pass it to Print Wizard, which will render the intended output
 on
 ANY printer with a proper Windows driver.
 
 If you think this looks like HTML, that is intentional. We mimic HTML
 in
 many ways, but also include tags for barcodes, paper sizes,
 orientation,
 overlays, etc.
 
 Details on our web site.
 
 Regards,
 Bob Rasmussen,   President,   Rasmussen Software, Inc.
 
 personal e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  company e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   voice: (US) 503-624-0360 (9:00-6:00 Pacific Time)
 fax: (US) 503-624-0760
 web: http://www.anzio.com
  street address: Rasmussen Software, Inc.
  10240 SW Nimbus, Suite L9
  Portland, OR  97223  USA
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RE: [U2] Web Developer Needed Full Time ***REVISED***

2008-02-08 Thread Jerry Banker
Surprisingly New Mexico is only two ahead of New York (23) which most
people consider to be all pavement. They never get north of the heal of
the boot.

Jerry Banker

 -Original Message-
 From: Doug Chanco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 9:44 AM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: RE: [U2] Web Developer Needed Full Time ***REVISED***
 
 I see this a goofy Friday (which is good, I needed the laughs)
 
 Thanks all!
 
 dougc
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Louie
 Bergsagel
 Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 8:52 PM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: Re: [U2] Web Developer Needed Full Time ***REVISED***
 
 New Mexico?  Try Texas, Nebraska and Kansas are the top 3.  New Mexico
 is #
 21.
 
 I was surprised to see Montana at only #13.
 
 Minnesota has more cattle than Montana.  I'm surprised they don't all
 fall
 in the 14,000 lakes.
 
 http://www.cattlerange.com/cattle-graphs/all-cattle-numbers.html
 
 
 On Feb 7, 2008 4:32 PM, Allen E. Elwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I saw penn, and figured it must be a cow penn, and ergo...new
  mexicoBrilliant
 
  ;)
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Larry
Hiscock
  Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 15:26
  To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
  Subject: RE: [U2] Web Developer Needed Full Time ***REVISED***
 
 
  Hmmm ... University of PENNSYLVANIA ... Must be in ... NEW MEXICO?
 ;-)
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glen
 Batchelor
  Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 2:17 PM
  To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
  Subject: RE: [U2] Web Developer Needed Full Time ***REVISED***
 
  Can you at least put the state in which the position is in?
  Country/state/city would be ideal.
 
  
  Glen Batchelor
  IT Director
  All-Spec Industries
   phone: (910) 332-0424
fax: (910) 763-5664
  E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web: http://www.all-spec.com
   Blog: http://blog.all-spec.com
  
 
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-u2-
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mathew Varghese
   Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 4:44 PM
   To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
   Subject: [U2] Web Developer Needed Full Time ***REVISED***
  
    Please disregard initial posting for job# 080123810
 description
   and requirements *
  
   Title
   PROGRAMMER ANALYST SR
  
   School Name
   University of Pennsylvania School of Veterinary Medicine (58)
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astrology
 look
 respectable.
 
  --
 John
 Kenneth Galbraith
 
 
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RE: [U2] Web Developer Needed Full Time ***REVISED*** [not-secure]

2008-02-08 Thread Jerry Banker
New Jersey is the most populous state (more people per square mile) in
the country which could be the reason why there is no room for cows.
Massachusetts isn't far behind it. 

Jerry Banker

 -Original Message-
 From: Larry Hiscock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 4:06 PM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: RE: [U2] Web Developer Needed Full Time ***REVISED*** [not-
 secure]
 
 Actually, they do :-)  There is a large working cattle ranch on the
 slopes
 of Haleakala in Maui, named, not unsurprisingly, Haleakala Ranch.
 
 Larry Hiscock
 Western Computer Services
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hennessey,
 Mark F.
 Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 10:25 AM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: RE: [U2] Web Developer Needed Full Time ***REVISED*** [not-
 secure]
 
 snip
 
 Surprisingly New Mexico is only two ahead of New York (23) which most
 people
 consider to be all pavement. They never get north of the heal of the
 boot.
 
 /snip
 
 Not as surprised as I was to see Connecticut ahead of states like Mass
 and
 NJ...
 
 Yet Hawaii is ranked 42? What, do they let them graze on the
volcanoes?
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RE: [U2] Totaling an Oconv'd DICT column

2008-02-05 Thread Jerry Banker
Both D10.OCONV and AR.TOT.USD.FRGN are using D10 which is already
converted.

Jerry Banker

 -Original Message-
 From: Baker Hughes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 1:07 PM
 To: 'u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org'
 Subject: [U2] Totaling an Oconv'd DICT column
 
 Hey,
 
 UV 10.2 / PIOPEN Flavor
 
 I'm trying to resolve an erratic issue with totaling on some reports,
 where it runs the column out to 9 decimals.
 
 It only happens when we apply the 'MD2' conversion with an OCONV,
 rather than using the Conv field in the DICT item.
 And, it does not happen consistently.
 
 Why, then, do it this way? Because we must decide whether to present a
 foreign currency amount, or a USD amount.
 We store the foreign currency amount in its output format, but USD in
 its internal format.
 Our accountants want the AR Amount to appear in the same column,
 regardless of currency code.
 
 Consider the DICTs:
 
 This is what formerly appeared on reports, before handling other
 currencies:
 
 Top of D10 in DICT CRJ, 6 lines, 51 characters.
 001: D ACCOUNTS RECEIVABLE AMOUNT
 002: 10
 003: MD2
 004: A/R-TOTAL
 005: 10R
 006: S
 Bottom.
 
 For diagnostic purposes only, to demonstrate there is no embedded
 decimal in the data:
 
 Top of D10.RAW in DICT CRJ, 6 lines, 52 characters.
 001: D AR AMT WITH NO (02/04/08,RBH)
 002: 10
 003:
 004: AR-TOT RAW
 005: 10R
 006: S
 Bottom.
 
 A simple form of the actual OCONV, without the conditional IF:
 
 Top of D10.OCONV in DICT CRJ, 20 lines, 542 characters.
 001: I AR AMT - Oconv'd (2/5/8, rbh)
 002: OCONV(D10,MD2)
 003:
 004: AR-TOT OCONV
 005: 16R
 006: S
 
 What is used now in the report; We present field 10 if USD, or field
26
 (already converted) otherwise:
 
 Top of AR.TOT.USD.FRGN in DICT CRJ, 20 lines, 1,407 characters.
 001: I ACCOUNTS RECEIVABLE AMOUNT USD / FGRN (JMK, 15 MAR 2007)
 002: IF D22 = USD OR D22 =  THEN OCONV(D10,MD2) ELSE D26
 003:
 004: A/R-TOTAL
 005: 10R
 006: S
 
 Top of D26 in DICT CRJ, 6 lines, 57 characters.
 001: D FOREIGN ACCOUNTS RECEIVABLE AMOUNT
 002: 26
 003:
 004: A/R-TOTAL
 005: 10R
 006: S
 Bottom.
 
 The output:
 
 LIST CRJ TOTAL D10 TOTAL D10.RAW TOTAL D10.OCONV TOTAL AR.TOT.USD.FRGN
 TOTAL D26 ID.SUP  DET.SUP
 
 A/R-TOTAL.AR-TOT RAWAR-TOT OCONVA/R-TOTAL.   A/R-TOTAL
 
 ======
==
 nn86.5nn8655nn86.5499989nn49.8
35.64
 5   399989
 
 Beaucoup records listed.
 
 [actual figures masked]
 
 Thanks for any insights offered, or diagnostic steps.
 
 -Baker
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RE: [U2] copying files in Unix from one IBM AIX computer to another IBM AIX computer

2008-02-04 Thread Jerry Banker
I tried suspend the other day and was surprised to find that if you
suspended the database while a lock was present it preserved the lock
making it stop a copy waiting for the lock to be released. This is on UV
10.1.12. So I'm not surprised that it could cause other problems. You
need to get everyone to stop updating and releasing all locks before
setting the suspend.

Jerry Banker


 -Original Message-
 From: Louie Bergsagel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 2:56 PM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: [U2] copying files in Unix from one IBM AIX computer to
 another IBM AIX computer
 
 I'm trying to copy UniVerse files (all types) from one computer to
 another
 using an NFS mount and the Unix cp command, but am getting damaged
 files
 because they are in use.  They are large files, between 4 and 22 gigs,
 some
 hashed, some dynamic, some directories.
 
 I tried to suspend UniVerse and then copy one file or directory, then
 unsuspend, but that hasn't helped.
 
 I am wondering if I need to pause a minute or so between the suspend
 (uv
 -admin -L) and the copy?  In other words, is suspend immediate, or
does
 it
 finish all the current writes and then pause?
 
 -- Louie in Seattle
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[U2] RE: [U2C] U2UG Elections...

2008-02-01 Thread Jerry Banker
I also will add that you have to be logged in as a registered user to
vote.

Jerry Banker

 -Original Message-
 From: Brian Leach [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 9:39 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [U2C] U2UG Elections...
 
 Bill et al
 
 Front page now reads 'please follow the Elections link (under
 Membership)...'
 
 :)
 
 Brian
 
 
  -Original Message-
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  Brutzman, Bill
  Sent: 01 February 2008 15:22
  To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
  Subject: RE: [U2C] U2UG Elections...
 
  After an agonizing search, I was able to find the link on the
  left under
 
   \\ Membership
\ U2UG Elections.
 
  --Bill
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  Brian Leach
  Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 9:04 AM
  To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [U2C] U2UG Elections...
 
 
  Calling all U2UG Members on this list...
 
  You should have received today an email with voting
  instructions to elect the new U2UG Board members for 2008.
 
  If not, and you're one of the 400 mail delivery failures
  cluttering my Inbox, you are still eligible to vote!
 
  Just find a few minutes over the next week to sign into
  www.u2ug.org and hit the Elections link.
  You'll find candidate biographies and voting form waiting.
  You can change your mind, too, right up to the end of the
  ballot on 10th February.
 
  We have a strong slate of candidates willing to represent you
  and to carry on the exciting work of the U2UG, so make your
  vote count.
  After all, it's probably the only really important election
  this year and unlike most others, it shouldn't cost you a penny!
 
  (and please check the email address on your user profile..)
 
  Thanks
 
  Brian
  
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RE: [U2] by.exp when

2008-01-30 Thread Jerry Banker
Try selecting without the BY.EXP.

Jerry Banker


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 8:48 AM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: [U2] by.exp when
 
 Yes, sorry make that
 001 D
 002 1
 003, 004 blank
 005 10R
 006 M
 
 And it still doesn't work.
 
 - Original Message -
 From: DAWES, Ray
 Date: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 9:07 am
 Subject: RE: [U2] by.exp when
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 
  Surely field 2 of the dictionary should have the location in the
  file -
  a number.
 
 
  Ray Dawes
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roger
  GlenfieldSent: 30 January 2008 12:29
  To: u2
  Subject: [U2] by.exp when
 
  Universe version 9.5
  Prime Flavor
  Dictionary
  CHARGE.CODE
  001 D
  002, 003, 004 blank
  005 10R
  006 M
 
  SORT FILE BY.EXP CHARGE.CODE WHEN CHARGE.CODE EQ 01 finds zero
  recordsand there are lots of records where one of the multi-
  values = 01
 
  I've also tried the old Pick flavor
  SORT FILE BY.EXP CHARGE.CODE EQ 01 without any luck.
 
  Any other thoughts or does Prime flavor Retrieve just not deal with
  by.exp like the Pick  Ideal versions?
 
  Thanks all.
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RE: [U2] [uvrestore] - help with a couple errors..

2008-01-30 Thread Jerry Banker
The uvrestore uses the pathname in the backup when it tries to restore
the backup so what you are probably seeing are the errors produced when
it can't find the directory on the new system and you don't have full
access to create them. It would be better, if you are changing the
location, to save the file with a path that is relative to where you are
and not from the root (on Unix it would be ./chris).

Jerry Banker

 -Original Message-
 From: LuckY07 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 2:03 PM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: [U2] [uvrestore] - help with a couple errors..
 
 I am trying to test the uvbackup/uvrestore and I can build the backup
 image
 using:
 
 path = %path%;c:\IBM\UV\bin
 uvbackup -f -v -s c:\BACKUP\backuptest\backup.log -walk c:\CHRIS 
 c:\BACKUP\backuptest\backup.dat
 
 I am trying to restore this image to a BLANK region/account and get a
 couple
 errors/warnings:
 
 WARNING: Error encountered creating file 'c:\ROGER/CHRISREPORT'.
  Parent directory does not exist or privileges are not
 sufficient
  for creating path to file.  File not restored.
  Restoring c:\ROGER/CHRISSECURITY (10:59:26)
 WARNING: Unable to write block at address 0x800.
 WARNING: Unable to complete group update operation!   The current
group
 may
  be incomplete or corrupted and should be examined by the
 'fixtool'
  utility.  Further operations to this file may be
questionable!
 
  Enter 'C' to retry gaining exclusive group lock.  Any other
 key
 will
  SKIP the restoration of THIS group AND the remainder of the
 file:Unable to write item MTN.

---
 ---
 Restoring c:\ROGER/CHRISVOC (10:59:26)
 WARNING: Error encountered creating file 'c:\ROGER/CHRISVOC'.
  Parent directory does not exist or privileges are not
 sufficient
  for creating path to file.  File not restored.
 WARNING: Error encountered creating file 'c:\ROGER/I_AGE01/INDEX.000'.
  Parent directory does not exist or privileges are not
 sufficient
  for creating path to file.  File not restored.
  Restoring c:\ROGER/I_AGE01/INDEX.001 (11:02:42)

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[U2] IBM increasing work force for U2

2008-01-25 Thread Jerry Banker
Has anyone noticed that IMB is increasing their number technical
marketing IT specialists for U2? A good, very good, sign.



http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/job-search?locations=industry=kw=Universe+Uni
data





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RE: [U2] Problems with disconnects - telnet

2008-01-23 Thread Jerry Banker
If you are using Accuterm, do you have keep alive set? That's on the
connection tab under the Advanced button.

Jerry Banker


 -Original Message-
 From: Gabriel Green [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 9:06 AM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: Re: [U2] Problems with disconnects - telnet
 
 I'll print out the manpage.  vt100, unfortunately, is not an option;
we
 need
 ADDS Viewpoint A2 Enhanced emulation that AccuTerm does.  Now, I have
 (without involving screen) proxied telnet sessions by setting the TERM
 variable to addsvp and the enhanced mode (if I recall correctly)
worked
 fine
 in AccuTerm.
 
 This will be an interesting project, indeed.  Thanks for your help.  I
 will
 probably create a demo account when I have time and see what I can do
 to
 make this work.
 
 Gabe
 
 On Jan 23, 2008 5:20 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hi Gabe,
 
  We are using screen (version 4.0.2) on Unix to ensure that we have
no
  disconnected sessions. We are only using it on our development
 machine for
  the moment but intend to roll it out to production pretty soon.
 
  In the unix profile for the user we check to see if there is any
 active
  screen session by doing a screen -ls - this will only display
 sessions for
  that user. If there is a disconnected session the profile attaches
to
 that
  session otherwise it creates a new one.
 
  It works well - even repaints the window when the user reattaches.
  However, note that the only terminal emulation it supports is vt100.
 You
  may also need to change the default command escape sequence (ctrl-a
 takes
  you to the screen command line where the user can do all sorts of
 damage),
  but all of that is pretty well documented in the man pages.
 
  cheers,
 
  asvin
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 23/01/2008 03:27:31:
 
   Hi all,
  
   Back in the mvBASE days, a telnet disconnect would allow an
 interactive
   user's activities to continue.  UV is smarter than this,
however,
 and
  is
   quick to get rid of disconnected users.  At least, it does not
 behave in
  the
   same way.
  
   What I would like to know is if there are facilities within UV to
 allow
  this
   sort of behavior.
  
   One scenario I dreamed up involved using the UNIX utility screen
 (which
  has
   been ported to Windows with cygwin).  The issue would be tying
 screen
   sessions to existing telnet sessions and incorporating security so
 that
  we
   do not have people resuming one another's screen sessions.  Has
 anyone
   attempted this?  Or is there a third party tool to do this?
  
   The key thing is: as much transparency to the end user as
possible.
 The
   tools we have available on the client side are AccuTerm 2K2; and
UV
  (running
   on various flavors of Windows 2000-2003) on our servers.  If
screen
 is a
   potential solution, the cygwin layer could be installed.
  
   The reason I ask is because disconnects - which we have some
 control
  over;
   but often is left to the whims of customer infrastructure, can
 cause
  garbed
   up transactions; which gives us untold headaches.
  
   Ideas, anyone?  We wouldn't go back to mvBASE if our lives
depended
 on
  it;
   but we do need to solve the disconnect issues for our customers
who
  refuse
   to pay for high quality data connections to our servers and the
  associated
   equipment.
  
   Thanks much,
   Gabe
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RE: [U2] UniDK

2008-01-22 Thread Jerry Banker
http://www14.software.ibm.com/webapp/download/search.jsp?go=yrs=u2trial
s

Jerry Banker

 -Original Message-
 From: gerry-u2ug [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 8:03 AM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: [U2] UniDK
 
 Brain freeze - can someone provide a link to the latest UniDK ?
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RE: [U2] universe errors

2008-01-17 Thread Jerry Banker
Those options are not available on the 10.1 and 10.2 we are running,
what are they suppose to do?

Jerry Banker
Senior Programmer Analyst
IBM Certified Solutions Expert
Affiliated Acceptance Corp
Sunrise Beach, MO
1-800-233-8483
www.affiliated.org

 -Original Message-
 From: Ray Wurlod [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 8:25 PM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: Re: [U2] universe errors
 
 What do you get back from uv -admin -info and uv -admin -lic_report
 (1) when UniVerse is stopped?
 (2) when UniVerse is running?
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Doug Chanco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
  Subject: [U2] universe errors
  Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 16:07:45 -0500
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RE: [U2] UV SEARCH Bug?

2008-01-17 Thread Jerry Banker
My guess would be that when a search is performed on a type 1 file,
without a select list, it reads the file names and some may have been
split by the name truncation used with type 1 files. With an active
select list the search routine probably uses the select list which has
the full concatenated name. A type 19 file wouldn't have the same
problem because it does not split the long names.

Jerry Banker
Senior Programmer Analyst
IBM Certified Solutions Expert
Affiliated Acceptance Corp
Sunrise Beach, MO
1-800-233-8483
www.affiliated.org


 -Original Message-
 From: Kevin King [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 5:42 PM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: [U2] UV SEARCH Bug?
 
 I am working on a UV 10.2 system and the BP file is a Type 1.  SEARCH
 BP and then entering a string that is known to be in the records
 returns erroneous results.  For example:
 
  SEARCH BP
 STRING: KK
 STRING: cr
 
 5 record(s) selected to SELECT list #0.
 
 CLEARSELECT
 SELECT list number 0 cleared.
 
 SELECT BP
 
 935 record(s) selected to SELECT list #0.
  SEARCH BP
 STRING: KK
 STRING: cr
 
 48 record(s) selected to SELECT list #0.
 
 
 Why would the SEARCH with no active list return 5 but the SEARCH with
 the active list returned 48 items?  Copying the records to a type 19
 file, the SEARCH works fine on the type 19 file.  It only seems to be
 with the type 1.  Any clues?
 
 -Kevin
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[U2] Sun Equipment

2008-01-15 Thread Jerry Banker
We have the following system we are no longer using and would like to
know if anyone would like to have it.

It was running when we unplugged it 6 months ago and if you're willing
to pay the shipping or haul it off then it's yours.



Sun Ultra Enterprise 450



4 - 400 MHZ RISC Processors

2 - SCSI Disc Controllers

8 - 36GB SCSI Disc Drives

2 - 18GB SCSI Disc Drives

1 - Gbit Ethernet Card

1 - 100Mbit Ethernet Internal

1 - Keyboard Model Type 6 w/mouse

1 - Keyboard Model Type 5c w/mouse

1 - Monitor Model CHB7727L

1 - Monitor Model 447

2 - GB memory

Solaris 8 installed (you will have to re-license it)



The amount of memory probably increased since the purchase but I'm not
sure how much.



If you are interested then call Jeff Runnels, at the number below or
send him an email at:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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RE: [U2] Universe 10.1 Itype possible parsing problem

2008-01-10 Thread Jerry Banker
More than likely it has a lot to do with using reference variables.

Jerry Banker
Sr Programmer Analyst
IBM Certified Solutions Expert
Affiliated Acceptance Corp
Sunrise Beach, MO
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www.affiliated.org
 -Original Message-
 From: john reid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 8:10 AM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: Re: [U2] Universe 10.1 Itype possible parsing problem
 
 Not to prod an already dead one, but the same problems occur using
 comparisons on outcomes or '@' items.  For example:
 SOME PROCESS; IF @1= 5...
 yields an incorrect result by my testing.
 j
 
 
 On 1/9/08, Jerry Banker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Chuck,
  Thanks for verifying it. Also thanks for letting me know about the
 DLIST
  command I was wondering if there was a way to look at an I-
 descriptor.
 
  Jerry Banker
  Sr Programmer Analyst
  IBM Certified Solutions Expert
  Affiliated Acceptance Corp
  Sunrise Beach, MO
  1-800-233-8483
  www.affiliated.org
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Geoffrey Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 6:14 PM
   To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
   Subject: Re: [U2] Universe 10.1 Itype possible parsing problem
  
   I would think that honoring a reasonable order of operations when
   parsing would resolve this.  The extraction operator should
 certainly
  be
   higher priority than comparison.
  
   In fact, it works correctly in a BASIC program (UV 10.1.8).  I
  compiled
   and ran the following:
  
   0001: XX=
   0002: XX1=5
   0003: XX2=X
   0004: IF XX1=5 THEN CRT YES ELSE CRT NO
  
   It returned YES as expected.  If it suffered from the same
  affliction,
   it should have returned NO as (XX1) is not = 5.
  
   Therefore, it would seem that the parser for the I-Types is, as
   originally suggested, broken, or, more specifically, is not
 consistent
   with the BASIC compiler.
  
   I confess, however, that I have not verified the alleged I-type
  behavior
   on my system.
  
  
   Jerry Banker wrote:
  
   I have to add that this is just the reason why I stress using
 spaces
   between signs, variables, Boolean operators, and a liberal use of
   parentheses.
   
   
   
   -Original Message-
   From: Jerry Banker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 4:46 PM
   To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
   Subject: RE: [U2] Universe 10.1 Itype possible parsing problem
   
   What it is doing is evaluating as:
   If @record is less than 3 is greater-than or equal to @record6
  then
   
   
   1
   
   
   else -1
   Or
   In other words:
   If 0 is greater-than or equal to 20071217:224240 then 1 else -1
   
   
   
   -Original Message-
   From: john reid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 3:57 PM
   To: list
   Subject: [U2] Universe 10.1 Itype possible parsing problem
   
   In the following query, a file is listed with two identical
 itypes,
   save for field 2 spacing, as shown below. Fields 3 and 6 are
all
   
   
   equal
   
   
   in the query shown.
   
   The difference is that there is no space between the  and = .
 This
   appears to yield wrong results, the bad one being shown as
field
 2
   (all minus ones) in the query.
   Anyone seen this?
   john
   field 3  field 6
   1-1 20071217:224240 20071217:224240
   1-1 20071218:165115 20071218:165115
   1-1 20071217:211056 20071217:211056
   1-1 20071218:105346 20071218:105346
   
   --
   IF @RECORD3 = @RECORD6 THEN 1 ELSE -1
   IF @RECORD3= @RECORD6 THEN 1 ELSE -1
   john
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RE: [U2] Universe 10.1 Itype possible parsing problem

2008-01-09 Thread Jerry Banker
Chuck,
Thanks for verifying it. Also thanks for letting me know about the DLIST
command I was wondering if there was a way to look at an I-descriptor.

Jerry Banker
Sr Programmer Analyst
IBM Certified Solutions Expert
Affiliated Acceptance Corp
Sunrise Beach, MO
1-800-233-8483
www.affiliated.org

 -Original Message-
 From: Geoffrey Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 6:14 PM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: Re: [U2] Universe 10.1 Itype possible parsing problem
 
 I would think that honoring a reasonable order of operations when
 parsing would resolve this.  The extraction operator should certainly
be
 higher priority than comparison.
 
 In fact, it works correctly in a BASIC program (UV 10.1.8).  I
compiled
 and ran the following:
 
 0001: XX=
 0002: XX1=5
 0003: XX2=X
 0004: IF XX1=5 THEN CRT YES ELSE CRT NO
 
 It returned YES as expected.  If it suffered from the same
affliction,
 it should have returned NO as (XX1) is not = 5.
 
 Therefore, it would seem that the parser for the I-Types is, as
 originally suggested, broken, or, more specifically, is not consistent
 with the BASIC compiler.
 
 I confess, however, that I have not verified the alleged I-type
behavior
 on my system.
 
 
 Jerry Banker wrote:
 
 I have to add that this is just the reason why I stress using spaces
 between signs, variables, Boolean operators, and a liberal use of
 parentheses.
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jerry Banker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 4:46 PM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: RE: [U2] Universe 10.1 Itype possible parsing problem
 
 What it is doing is evaluating as:
 If @record is less than 3 is greater-than or equal to @record6
then
 
 
 1
 
 
 else -1
 Or
 In other words:
 If 0 is greater-than or equal to 20071217:224240 then 1 else -1
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: john reid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 3:57 PM
 To: list
 Subject: [U2] Universe 10.1 Itype possible parsing problem
 
 In the following query, a file is listed with two identical itypes,
 save for field 2 spacing, as shown below. Fields 3 and 6 are all
 
 
 equal
 
 
 in the query shown.
 
 The difference is that there is no space between the  and = . This
 appears to yield wrong results, the bad one being shown as field 2
 (all minus ones) in the query.
 Anyone seen this?
 john
 field 3  field 6
 1-1 20071217:224240 20071217:224240
 1-1 20071218:165115 20071218:165115
 1-1 20071217:211056 20071217:211056
 1-1 20071218:105346 20071218:105346
 
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RE: [U2] Universe 10.1 Itype possible parsing problem

2008-01-08 Thread Jerry Banker
What it is doing is evaluating as:
If @record is less than 3 is greater-than or equal to @record6 then 1
else -1
Or
In other words:
If 0 is greater-than or equal to 20071217:224240 then 1 else -1

 -Original Message-
 From: john reid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 3:57 PM
 To: list
 Subject: [U2] Universe 10.1 Itype possible parsing problem
 
 In the following query, a file is listed with two identical itypes,
 save for field 2 spacing, as shown below. Fields 3 and 6 are all equal
 in the query shown.
 
 The difference is that there is no space between the  and = . This
 appears to yield wrong results, the bad one being shown as field 2
 (all minus ones) in the query.
 Anyone seen this?
 john
 field 3  field 6
 1-1 20071217:224240 20071217:224240
 1-1 20071218:165115 20071218:165115
 1-1 20071217:211056 20071217:211056
 1-1 20071218:105346 20071218:105346
 
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 IF @RECORD3 = @RECORD6 THEN 1 ELSE -1
 IF @RECORD3= @RECORD6 THEN 1 ELSE -1
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RE: [U2] Universe 10.1 Itype possible parsing problem

2008-01-08 Thread Jerry Banker
I have to add that this is just the reason why I stress using spaces
between signs, variables, Boolean operators, and a liberal use of
parentheses.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jerry Banker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 4:46 PM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: RE: [U2] Universe 10.1 Itype possible parsing problem
 
 What it is doing is evaluating as:
 If @record is less than 3 is greater-than or equal to @record6 then
1
 else -1
 Or
 In other words:
 If 0 is greater-than or equal to 20071217:224240 then 1 else -1
 
  -Original Message-
  From: john reid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 3:57 PM
  To: list
  Subject: [U2] Universe 10.1 Itype possible parsing problem
 
  In the following query, a file is listed with two identical itypes,
  save for field 2 spacing, as shown below. Fields 3 and 6 are all
equal
  in the query shown.
 
  The difference is that there is no space between the  and = . This
  appears to yield wrong results, the bad one being shown as field 2
  (all minus ones) in the query.
  Anyone seen this?
  john
  field 3  field 6
  1-1 20071217:224240 20071217:224240
  1-1 20071218:165115 20071218:165115
  1-1 20071217:211056 20071217:211056
  1-1 20071218:105346 20071218:105346
 
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  IF @RECORD3= @RECORD6 THEN 1 ELSE -1
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RE: [U2] cron/printer memory segment removed message

2008-01-07 Thread Jerry Banker
Doug,
What it is doing is a good thing and is alerting you to a problem you
are obviously having. It's cleaning up the memory segment that was left
by an aborted process. If you continue to get these messages on a
regular basis then you should look into what is running that is aborting
prematurely, possibly running out of disk or memory.
Jerry

 -Original Message-
 From: Doug Chanco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 12:11 PM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: [U2] cron/printer memory segment removed message
 
 Hey all,
 
  It is possible to NOT have universe (I assume its universe)
 generate the
 
 
 
 PRINTER memory segment removed
 
 
 
 
 
 message?  Root (and yes I know its bad but its how they have always
done
 things here, which I am slowly trying to change) gets a lot of these
 message from cron
 
 
 
 thanks,
 
 
 
 dougc
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[U2] list vs. email

2008-01-02 Thread Jerry Banker
Maybe you didn't get my last message. It doesn't matter around here if a
forum is better or not, the PHB's will not allow the users to surf the
net even to get email. At one time I was registered on this list as my
personal hotmail account but I had to stop using it because they blocked
access to hotmail. I also have accounts at yahoo and my space but those
are or were blocked so I have to use my business email account to keep
from having it blocked. The only other way would be to only look at the
questions and responses from home afterhours; in that case I would be an
observer and not a participant. Personally I like to think on occasion I
have helped someone on this list instead of just gathering the knowledge
of these fine people without giving anything back.

Jerry Banker
Sr Programmer Analyst
Affiliated Acceptance Corp
Sunrise Beach, MO
1-800-233-8483
www.affiliated.org
 -Original Message-
 From: Symeon Breen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 4:00 AM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: RE: [U2] testing
 
 I donbt understand how reading a forum is any different to reading an
email ?? -
 except that the date/time order is always correct and it does not clog
your mail, and
 you get dozens of forum style benefits which of course you do not have
to take as it
 then implies spending time on that darn web thing ?  - Infact it takes
me longer with
 the email list as I have to do my own housekeeping and setup my mail
client to place
 all the mails in a separate folder and then go through and delete the
emails etc. On a
 forum I just go to it, look at what has changed since I last logged in
and come away
 again all happy and relaxed.
 
 The reason why we all use the list is because everyone is on here, I
use the forum as
 well but no one is on there so it is pointless. The point is if we all
used a forum (the
 existing one or a new one) we would get certain things that people
complain about
 fixed like the time lag - which gets me on virtually every post.
 
 
 Rgds
 Symeon.
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-u2-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony W. Youngman
 Sent: 30 December 2007 23:34
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: Re: [U2] testing
 
 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bill Haskett
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
 Wol:
 
 I just don't get this attitude.  Why is it necessary to pick up our
toys and go home?
 To say, if you don't do things my way I'm quitting the team?  There
are too many
 postings that forswear any solution that doesn't result in a
complicated mess of
 things.
 
 I don't use forums. I read this mailing list in my spare time, or
snatch
 moments at work. I find forums time-consuming, and a pain, and I have
 better things to do with my time (like working :-)
 
 At the end of the day, all too often I find that the web is a solution
 in search of a problem. It's the wrong tool for many jobs, and imho
this
 is one of those situations.
 
 I rest my case with the fact that other people have pointed out -
there
 ARE fora out there, including those on u2ug. Why are the fora unused
 while the mailing list carries on regardless? I put it to you - the
 reason is that most people worth listening to prefer a mailing list.
 
 Cheers,
 Wol
 --
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the
 thimble. 'What *is* he?' said Magrat. 'They're gnomes,' said Nanny.
The man
 lowered the thimble. 'Pictsies!' Carpe Jugulum, Terry Pratchett 1998
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RE: [U2] testing

2007-12-31 Thread Jerry Banker
We have no discrimination around here, if a site is blocked for one it
is blocked for all, including the person blocking it. If you came in
here on a contract you would be treated the same way. Since you would be
on contract I would be surprised if you had any internet access at all.

Jerry Banker
Sr Programmer Analyst
Affiliated Acceptance Corp
Sunrise Beach, MO
1-800-233-8483
www.affiliated.org

 -Original Message-
 From: MAJ Programming [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 9:48 AM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: Re: [U2] testing
 
 Anthony:
 
 Then I must not understand what a 'forum' is.
 
 I use the Raining Data forum http://forums.rainingdata.com/ all the
time
 (some say too much).
 
 This page has the RD 'products' (D3 NT, D3 Aix, D3 Linux, MvBase etc)
neatly
 illustrated like a table of contents and shows the latest posting.
 
 Clicking on a 'product' will give you a listing of the topics within.
It
 also shows you the technical announcements and any other top-down
 information.
 
 Within the topics themselves, you can see the different topics with
the
 originator, number of views and replies and the time/date of the
latest
 reply.
 
 This forum is spared a bunch of the static that an email forum offers.
There
 are no redundant posts, no comments about trimming extraneous email
content,
 no 'Fred is out of the office problems, etc. The topics may take a
 non-related tangent but not as pervasive as on the U2 one.
 
 By seeing the latest date for each thread, you can quickly see if the
thread
 interests you and if the reply is considered 'new'.
 
 As one who participates on both, the RD one more organized. Ask TonyG.
He's
 quite visible on both as well.
 
 While this forum is web-based and an email forum is not, I don't buy
the
 argument that employers (clients) prevent internet access by their
employees
 as a reason to not participate.
 
 Many of my clients have baracuda or other content blocking firewalls
etc
 that I simply am not restricted with. I am considered middle to upper
 management by all of my clients as well as many 'employee' programmers
 should be. We are not the low man on the office totem pole.
 
 I've got some clients that sharpen their pencil more than most that
allow me
 full access to the internet despite instituting strong-armed policies
about
 employees mis-using the internet on company time. It's a trust thing.
I'm a
 huge ebay participant and would not dare be caught doing ANYTHING with
ebay
 at a client's site on their dime.
 
 My 1 cent
 Mark Johnson
 - Original Message -
 From: Anthony W. Youngman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 6:33 PM
 Subject: Re: [U2] testing
 
 
  In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bill Haskett
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
  Wol:
  
  I just don't get this attitude.  Why is it necessary to pick up our
toys
 and go home?
  To say, if you don't do things my way I'm quitting the team?
There are
 too many
  postings that forswear any solution that doesn't result in a
complicated
 mess of
  things.
 
  I don't use forums. I read this mailing list in my spare time, or
snatch
  moments at work. I find forums time-consuming, and a pain, and I
have
  better things to do with my time (like working :-)
 
  At the end of the day, all too often I find that the web is a
solution
  in search of a problem. It's the wrong tool for many jobs, and imho
this
  is one of those situations.
 
  I rest my case with the fact that other people have pointed out -
there
  ARE fora out there, including those on u2ug. Why are the fora unused
  while the mailing list carries on regardless? I put it to you - the
  reason is that most people worth listening to prefer a mailing list.
 
  Cheers,
  Wol
  --
  Anthony W. Youngman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  'Yings, yow graley yin! Suz ae rikt dheu,' said the blue man, taking
the
  thimble. 'What *is* he?' said Magrat. 'They're gnomes,' said Nanny.
The
 man
  lowered the thimble. 'Pictsies!' Carpe Jugulum, Terry Pratchett 1998
  Visit the MaVerick web-site - http://www.maverick-dbms.org Open
Source
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RE: Re[2]: [U2] testing

2007-12-28 Thread Jerry Banker
There are forums on the u2ug website if you want to use them. If you
changed this list into a forum that would be just one more site my
employer would ban us from so you would loose several people from here.
We're not allowed to surf the net all day at work. Email they won't stop
because we use it in our business so this is the best form for us. Yes,
I could sign up from home but then you would only hear from me after
hours and not necessarily when you need the information.

Jerry Banker
Sr Programmer Analyst
Affiliated Acceptance Corp
Sunrise Beach, MO
1-800-233-8483
www.affiliated.org

 -Original Message-
 From: Symeon Breen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 3:54 AM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: RE: Re[2]: [U2] testing
 
 Which brings me round to my pet hate again - this is an amail list -
why is it an email
 list, forums are just so much easier all round.
 
 
 Symeon.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-u2-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MAJ Programming
 Sent: 28 December 2007 03:56
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: Re: Re[2]: [U2] testing
 
 Like many on this forum, I get around 80 emails a day. They are sorted
by
 date/time and if I read a u2-post on the email at 2:00 pm that says
What is
 1+1?, I may react and reply to it without reading the answer on the
3:00pm
 email (and 3:05 and 3:10 and 3:15 etc). I may have gotten some ebay
emails
 at 2:05, some enhancement emails at 2:10, an offer to help a rich
African
 dignatary at 2:15, etc etc.
 
 Part of the volume are the excessive answers. On the D3 forum
(available
 anywhere and not just on an email client), you can see the date of the
last
 post to a thread. Plus, you will see the complete thread's content, no
more,
 no less.
 
 So when someone earlier replies to the question What is 1+1, you can
see
 if someone else responded with 2.
 
 My 1+1 cents
 Mark Johnson
 - Original Message -
 From: David Tod Sigafoos [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: MAJ Programming u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 11:36 AM
 Subject: Re[2]: [U2] testing
 
 
  MAJ,
 
  Of course a simpler method would to be for users to use a email
client
  that can perform threading .. even may web based ones can do that
 
  Of course if people don't read first nothing can help
 
  DSig
 
  Monday, December 24, 2007, 10:28:42 AM, you wrote:
 
  MP Perhaps this is why this forum may like a single thread  method
(like
  MP Raining Data's D3, Mvbase etc).
 
  MP 5 of the responses were identical to the Phantom on Universe
question
 and
  MP PH answer.
 
  MP Had the first reply said PH, the other four would have already
seen
 PH
  MP and not bothered. This ain't a quiz and with everyone complainig
about
  MP bandwidth, cycles and extraneous email clutter, this would be a
great
 step
  MP in the reduction of all
 
  MP Have a Merry Christmas.
 
  MP My 1 cent
  MP Mark Johnson
  MP - Original Message -
  MP From: Perry Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  MP To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
  MP Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 12:56 PM
  MP Subject: Re: [U2] testing
 
 
   Output is saved to the PH file. Include the SQUAWK keyword in
your
  MP PHANTOM
   command to get the specific item I'd
  
   Perry
  
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   Subject: RE: [U2] testing
  
   A wonderous and happy holidays to all!
  
   If anyone happens to be reading this list , I do have one
universe
   phantom question
  
   Is there anyway to see what a phantom did?  At my last job there
was a
   way to see phantom output (it wrote to a phantom log file, if you
   started the phantom with logging)
  
   Hopefully there is something similar in universe (10.1)
  
   Thanks,
  
   Dougc
  
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RE: [U2] U2 forum

2007-12-28 Thread Jerry Banker
Before setting up your own I think you should probably check out how
well the existing forums are doing. Evidently they are alive and well
but strange that I hardly ever get a posting sent to me from there.

Jerry Banker
Sr Programmer Analyst
Affiliated Acceptance Corp
Sunrise Beach, MO
1-800-233-8483
www.affiliated.org

 -Original Message-
 From: Doug Chanco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 10:22 AM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: [U2] U2 forum
 
 I am willing but if the website already has a forum why reinvent on
 google groups?  But if we wanted to do it I am certainly willing,
while
 I am still getting back to speed on universe, forums and such I can
 handle with ease and it be honest I have a pitiful life and the would
 give me something to do with my FREE TIME and FREE COMPUTER RESOURCES
 
 Dougc
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brenda Price
 Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 9:52 AM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: RE: Re[2]: [U2] testing
 
 I am sure our host would be happy to allow someone else to put in
their
 FREE TIME and FREE COMPUTER RESOURCES to do this.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Doug Chanco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 7:11 AM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: RE: Re[2]: [U2] testing
 
 So why don't we create one on google groups?  jBASE did (now they are
 much smaller than U2) but they moved over everyone rather easily and
now
 users on that list have 2 choices, email or view the google groups web
 page (I personally prefer email)
 
 dougc
 
 -Original Message-
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Symeon Breen
 Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 4:54 AM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: RE: Re[2]: [U2] testing
 
 Which brings me round to my pet hate again - this is an amail list -
why
 is it an email list, forums are just so much easier all round.
 
 
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RE: [U2] IBM web site

2007-12-20 Thread Jerry Banker
I found them in both the a-z listing and products by category Data
Servers (Database Management Systems) where were you looking.

Jerry Banker
Sr Programmer Analyst
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Sunrise Beach, MO
1-800-233-8483
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 -Original Message-
 From: Martin Phillips [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 10:01 AM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: [U2] IBM web site
 
 Hopefully nothing sinister here but has anyone else noticed that the
U2
 products appear to have vanished from IBM's product list on their web
site.
 Support and training are still available but I cannot find any
reference in
 the areas one would visit as a prospective purchaser.
 
 Added to the absence of IBM from the latest published list of
exhibitors at
 the 2008 Spectrum conference, this gives what is hopefully the wrong
 impression.
 
 Meanwhile, to answer the question I was trying to resolve, does anyone
have
 an up to date end user price for UniVerse?
 
 
 Martin Phillips
 Ladybridge Systems Ltd
 17b Coldstream Lane, Hardingstone, Northampton, NN4 6DB
 +44-(0)1604-709200
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RE: [U2] sigh phantom ?

2007-12-13 Thread Jerry Banker
Are you talking about that Motif menu that pops up when you login to the
uv account? It's been around for ages and doesn't seem that difficult to
follow.

Jerry Banker
Sr Programmer Analyst
Affiliated Acceptance Corp
Sunrise Beach, MO
1-800-233-8483
www.affiliated.org
 -Original Message-
 From: Hona, David S [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:26 AM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: RE: [U2] sigh phantom ?
 
 Doug
 
 I guess you're talking about U2 Internals type knowledge - what's
hidden
 under the covers, behind those fancy GUI interfaces? The kinda stuff
you
 can automate and interface your application to make it 'smart' -
 especially for monitoring or  reporting-type stuff?
 
 Just ask and someone will tell you what you need to know...lots of
 knowledge here. I'm sure someone will recommend the UniVerse Internals
 class from IBM. :)
 
 Regards
 David
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doug Chanco
 Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 8:36 AM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: RE: [U2] sigh phantom ?
 
 Thanks to everyone who replied!
 
 On a slightly different subject
 
 I downloaded the UniVerse Online Library, I have been going through it
 but what's unsettling is that almost all the admin docs refer to
 administering universe with some windows GUI tool (uniadmin)  what I
 cannot seem to find are any references to administering universe
WITHOUT
 uniadmin, surely there are people administering universe (on unix
 systems) without uniadmin
 
 I was hoping to find a doc that detailed things that Phil pointed out
,
 but so far all I can find are ways to administer universe using
uniadmin
 
 
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RE: [U2] sigh phantom ?

2007-12-13 Thread Jerry Banker
Seems to me the uniadmin is nothing but a java front end to many of the
routines listed on the Motif menu in the uv account. It may contain a
few extra things but not many.

Jerry Banker
Sr Programmer Analyst
Affiliated Acceptance Corp
Sunrise Beach, MO
1-800-233-8483
www.affiliated.org

 -Original Message-
 From: Doug Chanco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 9:07 AM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: RE: [U2] sigh phantom ?
 
 No,
I downloaded the ibm universe online library but all the admin docs
 refer to doing admin stuff using uniadmin
 
 Dougc
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry Banker
 Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 8:47 AM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: RE: [U2] sigh phantom ?
 
 Are you talking about that Motif menu that pops up when you login to
the
 uv account? It's been around for ages and doesn't seem that difficult
to
 follow.
 
 Jerry Banker
 Sr Programmer Analyst
 Affiliated Acceptance Corp
 Sunrise Beach, MO
 1-800-233-8483
 www.affiliated.org
  -Original Message-
  From: Hona, David S [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:26 AM
  To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
  Subject: RE: [U2] sigh phantom ?
 
  Doug
 
  I guess you're talking about U2 Internals type knowledge - what's
 hidden
  under the covers, behind those fancy GUI interfaces? The kinda stuff
 you
  can automate and interface your application to make it 'smart' -
  especially for monitoring or  reporting-type stuff?
 
  Just ask and someone will tell you what you need to know...lots of
  knowledge here. I'm sure someone will recommend the UniVerse
Internals
  class from IBM. :)
 
  Regards
  David
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doug Chanco
  Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 8:36 AM
  To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
  Subject: RE: [U2] sigh phantom ?
 
  Thanks to everyone who replied!
 
  On a slightly different subject
 
  I downloaded the UniVerse Online Library, I have been going through
it
  but what's unsettling is that almost all the admin docs refer to
  administering universe with some windows GUI tool (uniadmin)  what I
  cannot seem to find are any references to administering universe
 WITHOUT
  uniadmin, surely there are people administering universe (on unix
  systems) without uniadmin
 
  I was hoping to find a doc that detailed things that Phil pointed
out
 ,
  but so far all I can find are ways to administer universe using
 uniadmin
 
 
  Dougc
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RE: IBM DOCS was: RE: [U2] sigh phantom ?

2007-12-13 Thread Jerry Banker
It may be evil and ugly but there have been times when I couldn't get
through to use the uniadmin (unirpc was down, you can start it from the
motif menu and for obvious reasons you can't from uniadmin) so it's been
a blessing.

Jerry Banker
Sr Programmer Analyst
Affiliated Acceptance Corp
Sunrise Beach, MO
1-800-233-8483
www.affiliated.org

 -Original Message-
 From: Jeff Schasny [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 12:43 PM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: Re: IBM DOCS was: RE: [U2] sigh phantom ?
 
 I don't understand. Why don't you just use Uniadmin?  I not sure if
the
 old motif (Agh) stuff even exists any more. Besides it was pretty
 much evil and ugly anyway.
 
 Doug Chanco wrote:
  I downloaded the library set from there already (but thanks) its
just that most of
 the admin sections deal with using uniadmin (see below for an example)
 
 
 
  Administering UniVerse Files
 
  To administer UniVerse files, choose File Tool from the UniAdmin
menu. The File
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Tool window appears, as shown in the following example:
 
  The tasks you can perform from this window include:
 
  t Listing all files in all UniVerse accounts
 
  t Listing file properties and statistics
 
  t Running file diagnostics
 
  t Repairing damaged files
 
 
 
  What if I donbt have or donbt want to use uniadmin, so far I have
not been able
 to find anything that covers the same topics WIHTOUT using uniadmin
 
 
 
  Dougc
 
 
 
 
 
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  Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 11:08 AM
  To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
  Subject: RE: [U2] sigh phantom ?
 
 
 
  http://www-306.ibm.com/software/data/u2/pubs/library/
 
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RE: [U2] anyone seen this error before?

2007-12-13 Thread Jerry Banker
Unauthorized access to the tmp directory would be my first guess. The
next would be that the select file was not created in the tmp directory
because it ran out of room.

Jerry Banker
Sr Programmer Analyst
Affiliated Acceptance Corp
Sunrise Beach, MO
1-800-233-8483
www.affiliated.org

 -Original Message-
 From: Doug Chanco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 2:49 PM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: [U2] anyone seen this error before?
 
 We have a cron job that is having the below error, anyone have any
 ideas/suggestions/thoughts on what might be the issue and/or where I
can
 start looking?
 
 
 
 I am going to look at the basic code and go from there
 
 
 
 
 
 136550 record(s) selected to SELECT list #0.
 
 
 
 A fatal error has occurred in UniVerse.
 
 Unable to re-open operating system file 
 
 Error code   2
 
 
 
 Thanks!
 
 
 
 dougc
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RE: [U2] sigh phantom ?

2007-12-12 Thread Jerry Banker
Phantoms are listed at the end with a hex port number.

Jerry Banker
Sr Programmer Analyst
Affiliated Acceptance Corp
Sunrise Beach, MO
1-800-233-8483
www.affiliated.org

 -Original Message-
 From: Doug Chanco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 11:56 AM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: [U2] sigh phantom ?
 
 Sigh I feel like such a newbie but anyway is there a way to using
 PORT.STATUS to tell if a process is a phantom process?  If it wasn't
for
 the fact that I called my program FTP.PHANTOM ftp://ftp.phantom/  I
 never know it's a phantom process.
 
 
 
 All phantom process in jBASE are given port numbers above 10,000 so
it's
 very easy to tell a phantom process by it's port number
 
 
 
 
 
 I won't say jBASE does  .. anymore but assume that
 
 
 
 :-)
 
 
 
 PORT.STATUS output:
 
 
 
 24998  chando  0xACEB9E59  RUN TEST FTP.PHANTOM [ FTP.PHANTOM @
 0x38
 ]
 
 
 
 Any insight on what the text in brackets means?
 
 
 
 [ FTP.PHANTOM @ 0x38 ]
 
 
 
 Thanks everyone
 
 
 
 dougc
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RE: [U2] RE: Universe Replication

2007-12-11 Thread Jerry Banker
Is there a replication system that does replicate all file types? Seems
to me that not replicating all file types would be a major problem,
seeing as many people use type 1/19 files for a variety of reasons.

Jerry Banker
Sr Programmer Analyst
Affiliated Acceptance Corp
Sunrise Beach, MO
1-800-233-8483
www.affiliated.org

snip
 That said, we would have the same limitation on type 1/19 files on
*NIX
 platforms, though I can see a fairly straight forward solution on
 windows that would work with updates from anywhere.
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RE: [U2] [UV] server-side ODBC question

2007-12-11 Thread Jerry Banker
Have you checked Ontario Systems? www.ontariosystems.com
They use Cache. I can't say how their new stuff works because we have
one of their products that is about 15 years old. However, we are still
supported, which says a lot for a company.

Jerry Banker
Sr Programmer Analyst
Affiliated Acceptance Corp
Sunrise Beach, MO
1-800-233-8483
www.affiliated.org

 -Original Message-
 From: John Hester [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 7:24 PM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: [U2] [UV] server-side ODBC question
 
 We're evaluating phone systems and need to access our UV customer data
 for call routing.  One of the systems (Vertical Televantage) can only
 communicate with other databases via ODBC.  In this scenario, UV would
 need to be the ODBC server and Televantage the client.  Caller ID
would
 be passed to UV, and it would return back whatever customer data we
 might want to use to route to the appropriate call center agent.
 
 Back around '03 I explored something similar with our SQL Server based
 CRM application and ended up making UV the ODBC client instead.  Seems
 like I couldn't find a way to go the other direction except via a
 desktop VB app - not in the background as a service.  I did
successfully
 connected to UV as an ODBC server from Excel some years back, but
again,
 that was via the desktop.  I also remember setting up a separate
 SQL-ized UV account and Q-pointers back to my Pick flavor account's
data
 to make that work.  That was on a different platform and version of
UV,
 though.
 
 Has anyone done something similar using ODBC and UV as the ODBC
server?
 Does what I remember about the process still hold true, or am I
 completely off base?
 
 Thanks,
 John
 
 John Hester
 System  Network Administrator
 Momentum Group
 (949) 833-8886 x623
 http://www.themomgroup.com
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RE: [U2] UV Printer file size limit reached

2007-12-10 Thread Jerry Banker
I dusted of the brain cells and remembered that the problem was due to
not having enough tmp space available. I haven't had the problem since I
moved to a tmp directory on a larger drive.

Jerry Banker
Sr Programmer Analyst
Affiliated Acceptance Corp
Sunrise Beach, MO
1-800-233-8483
www.affiliated.org
 -Original Message-
 From: Boydell, Stuart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 2:30 AM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: re: [U2] UV Printer file size limit reached
 
 Did anyone find out what was happening with this?
 We have just done an upgrade and I now have a UO.Net process that
 generates the same error message.
 The process uses a UniCommand to generate a large XML file which is
 being dragged across to a SQL box.
 UV 10.2.4/AIX - previously working on 10.0.7 - similar workspace and
 /tmp  UVTEMP
 I will try using the UniXML objects but in the interim wondered if
there
 was a reason.
 
 Cheers,
 Stuart Boydell
 
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 Today I came across an error I've never had before. While updating a
 field on all of the records of a file (approximately 400,000) I
received
 the error below and the program halted in the debugger. I wasn't
running
 the program in the debugger. This is happening on our test system
that's
 running Red Hat Linux AS 3 and UniVerse 10.2.4. The program I am
running
 is a short program that reads each record, it gets from a select list,
 and substitutes the value in a field with another value then writes
the
 record back out. No big whoop. It runs without any errors on our live
 system running the same Linux version but on 10.1.12 of UniVerse. The
 config on both systems is set up the same, or at least the same config
 directives that are on both systems. The test version is a 5 user
 workgroup version and the live system is a 117 user enterprise
version,
 if that makes a difference. This has happened more than once on more
 than one file. The first time I was able to do a 'C' when the debugger
 prompt showed up but the second time it quit the session before I
could
 continue it.
 
 
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RE: [U2] [UV] Paragraph

2007-12-07 Thread Jerry Banker
Use the  syntax.
A,F(filename,recordname,attribute,value,subvalue),variablename
Look it up in the online help under ...

Jerry Banker
Sr Programmer Analyst
Affiliated Acceptance Corp
Sunrise Beach, MO
1-800-233-8483
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 Subject: [U2] [UV] Paragraph
 
 Is there a way to read from a file from within a Paragraph ?I
know
 you could do it from the old  Procs, but unfortunately I need to
execute
 this from Paragraphs.
 
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 PNY Technologies, Inc.
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 (973)  515 - 9700  ext 5327
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RE: [U2] LIST.READU

2007-12-07 Thread Jerry Banker
On the UniVerse system the SYS.CTL and LOCK.FILE do not exist are they
in Unidata? We use a program that was built by Charlie Noah that uses a
file that contains tables that equate system and inode numbers to file
names. You probably know him from the jbase lists. I would rather he
send it than myself because mine has been modified over the years to
reflect the systems that we have been on.

Jerry Banker
Sr Programmer Analyst
Affiliated Acceptance Corp
Sunrise Beach, MO
1-800-233-8483
www.affiliated.org

 -Original Message-
 From: Brutzman, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 11:24 AM
 To: 'u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org'
 Subject: RE: [U2] LIST.READU
 
 Here is a little program called UNLOCK.ME.  I hope that it is of some
use.
 
 --Bill
 
 *-
 
   clear
 
   prompt ''
 
   open 'SYS.CTL'to  F.SYS.CTL else  null
   open 'LOCK.FILE'  to  F.LOCK.FILE   else  null
 

*---

 --
 First.Screen:
 
   crt @(-1)
 
   execute 'LIST LOCK.FILE user*port FILE.ID FILE.KEY DATE TIME ID.SUP'
 
   crt
   crt '  _  '
   crt ' / \ '
   crt ' \  UnLock.Me  / '
   crt '  \___/ '
 
   crt
   crt ' user.to.clear  all  x ': ; input login.name
 
   login.name = downcase(login.name)
 
   begin case
 case login.name = 'x'   ;  go The.End
 case login.name = '';  crt @(-1)  ;  sleep  ;  go
First.Screen
 case login.name = 'all' ;  go Contact.Screen
   end   case
 

*---

 ---
 Get.User.Nbr:
 
   crt
   crt '  portx ':;  input User.Nbr
 
   User.Nbr = downcase(User.Nbr)
 
   begin case
 case User.Nbr = 'all' ;  null
 case User.Nbr = 'x'   ;  go The.End
 case User.Nbr  0 ;  go First.Screen
 case User.Nbr  45;  go First.Screen
 case 1;  go Get.User.Nbr
   end   case
 

*---

 ---
 Contact.Screen:
 
   crt '
---'
   crt '   please contact' : login.name : '  asking if ok
to
 clear'
   crt
   crt '   continue ? yes ': ; input Ans
   crt
 
   Ans = downcase(Ans)
 
   begin case
 case Ans = 'yes'   ;  go Begin.Clearing:
 case 1 ;  go The.End
   end   case
 

*---

 
 Begin.Clearing:
 
   crt @(-1)
   crt @(1,11):'Clearing... ':
 
   begin case
 case login.name = 'all'  ;  Cmd = 'SELECT LOCK.FILE ';
 
 case User.Nbr   = 'all'  ;  Cmd = 'SELECT LOCK.FILE WITH PORT
LIKE
 ':login.name:'*...'
 case 1   ;  Cmd = 'SELECT LOCK.FILE WITH PORT
= '
 :login.name:*:User.Nbr:' '
   end   case
 
   execute Cmd
 
   EOJ = 0
   Record.Count = 0
 
   loop
 readnext ID else EOJ = 1 UNTIL EOJ = 1 do
 
   delete F.LOCK.FILE,ID
   Record.Count = Record.Count + 1
 
   crt @(10,18):'Locks cleared ':Record.Count
   crt @(10,19):'Record ':ID:' cleared.'
 
   repeat
 
   crt
   crt
   crt 'Program completed.   []' :; input Ans
   crt
   crt
 

*---

 ---
 The.End:
 
   crt @(-1)
 
 END
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Doug Chanco
 Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 11:44 AM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: [U2] LIST.READU
 
 
 Hello all,
 
  I am back in the universe world after working in jBASE for many
 years now, is there a better tool than LIST.READU to show the locking
 table? (similar to jBASE SHOW-ITEM-LOCKS which is pretty awesome)
 
 
 
 It shows record locks BUT not what file the lock is on ... I am
 still learning our system and seeing a lock like 123456789 does not
 tell me anything about what file the lock is on, I suppose I might be
 able to figure out something with the inode but still ..
 
 
 
 Active Record Locks:
 
 Device Inode  Netnode Userno  Lmode   Pid Login Id
 Item-ID.
 
 30801944464960142  10 RU 59788 1267316151029
 
 30801943389200142  12 RU 59788 1267316151029
 
 
 
 Is anyone aware of a better tool?
 
 
 
 Thanks
 
 
 
 Dougc
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RE: [U2] Recall Question

2007-12-06 Thread Jerry Banker
In some flavors the BREAK.ON feature is different from others. In some
BREAK.ON 'O' field works, in others it has to be BREAK.ON field 'O'.

Jerry Banker
Sr Programmer Analyst
Affiliated Acceptance Corp
Sunrise Beach, MO
1-800-233-8483
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 -Original Message-
 From: Ron Hutchings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 1:29 PM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: [U2] Recall Question
 
 .L RELLEVEL
 
  RELLEVEL
 001 X
 002 10.0.11
 003 PICK
 004 PICK.FORMAT
 005 10.0.11
 
 Running Universe the BREAK.ON 'O' feature gives me an error message.
Any
 insight on this?  I am guessing it is because of the pick format.
 
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RE: [U2] A few simple questions

2007-12-06 Thread Jerry Banker
When your Universe was installed more than likely the installer picked
root as the administrator.

Jerry Banker
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Affiliated Acceptance Corp
Sunrise Beach, MO
1-800-233-8483
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 -Original Message-
 From: Oaks, Harold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 3:15 PM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: [U2] A few simple questions
 
 I am a fairly new Universe user.  We are running on hpux 10.2
 
 I have several questions, but only one here-
 
 I know the MASTER OFF command can be used to log out a user, i.e.
 MASTER OFF 132 logs off user 132.   The on-line help says one must
be
 a Universe Administrator to run this command, and be in the home
account
 for Universe.   However, in ...ibm/uv/bin the file 'master' which is
 executed by this command has owner root and permissions are set to
 rwx--.  In other words, only root can execute this command on our
 system and logging in as uvadm is not good enough.  Is this typical
for
 you Universe users?  Or did you change the permissions on this
 executable?  Is there some other way uvadm can log out users?
 
 
 Harold D. Oaks
 Sr. Analyst/Programmer
 Office of the Budget and Information Systems
 Clark County, Washington
 ph: (360) 397-6121 x4132
 fax: (360) 397-2342
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RE: [U2] To Ad or Not to Ad

2007-12-05 Thread Jerry Banker
I tend to agree with Brian. If it is an outright advertisement then mark
it as an AD but if you just happen to sell a product I wouldn't expect
to see an ad reference in the subject line when helping someone out.
After all I don't think anyone on this list wants to see an AD reference
every time Wally or Stephen helps someone out.
Maybe a signature block is all that is necessary.

Jerry Banker
Sr Programmer Analyst
Affiliated Acceptance Corp
Sunrise Beach, MO
1-800-233-8483
www.affiliated.org

 -Original Message-
 From: Brian Leach [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 8:08 AM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: RE: [U2] To Ad or Not to Ad
 
 Susan
 
 What brilliant marketing there. I'm truly in awe! grin
 
 Seriously though of course, you're right. It is a difficult line...
 
 For example, someone may ask 'I need to do [blah]'.
 I may respond, 'Well, there is a free utility you can download from my
 website that does [blah]'.
 
 Now if the utility is free, and I'm answering a question, and I'm not
 looking to profit, I'm not marketing.
 But visiting the website necessarily means being confronted by other
stuff
 that isn't free.
 And what about those who don't want to spend any money, don't want to
see
 any ads, but do want free stuff?
 (Hey now, THAT sounds like the MV community...)
 
 So I would put my 2c on - posts that are primarily intended to be
adverts
 for products should be so marked. Where they are primarily intended to
offer
 assistance - like Tony's in this case - we should leave it up to the
 conscience of the poster. After all, having [AD] is not a slur - some
people
 might even *miss* the advert otherwise...
 
 Brian
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RE: [U2] Accessing the OS

2007-12-05 Thread Jerry Banker
This is only in Unidata.

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 -Original Message-
 From: gmatton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 3:28 PM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: RE: [U2] Accessing the OS
 
 You can use PCPERFORM from BASIC as well.
 
 syntax is ..
 
 PCPERFORM your OS command here surrounded by quotes
 
 gm
 
 
 -Original Message-
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jeff Schasny
 Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 3:38 PM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: Re: [U2] Accessing the OS
 
 
 SH
 For example
 SH -c  ls -al
 
 Brutzman, Bill wrote:
  From a UniBasic green-screen application (using Dynamic Connect),
what
 BASIC
  command(s) allow the programmer to execute an Unix command (with
 parameters)
  such that something like a SendMail command could be handled.
 
  We have UniVerse and HP-Ux.
 
  --Bill
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RE: [U2] To Ad or Not to Ad

2007-12-04 Thread Jerry Banker
Tony,
It does make it rather difficult when perhaps the fix to a person's
problem does lie in a product that just happens to be sold by the
answerer. I, personally, liked your little demo and showed it to a few
people out here. Was it an ad? That's questionable because it does
contain advertising material but also some good instruction.
I know when someone sends a blatant ad or not so I can delete it if I
wish. However, sometimes I find a little nugget of information I was
looking for even in the ads.
I expect them on a list like this where you have a variety of users that
also build products for sale.
Jerry

 -Original Message-
 From: Tony G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 3:22 PM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: [U2] To Ad or Not to Ad
 
  From: Charles Barouch in the SOAP discussion
  Tony,
   Please use [AD] brackets [/AD] when
  referring to information on a product which you make or sell.
 
 Chuck - I didn't reference a product I make or sell.  I pointed to my
web
 site where someone can find helpful and context-relevant information.
 
 I believe you've made and honest error and I'm sure your eyes read
UO.NET
 and your mind said ...(the other one)
 
 That said, this is the gorilla in the room and I'd like to discuss it.
I'm
 getting real tired of this notion that every time a non-end-user makes
a
 post that it's an ad, whether it says so or not.  And our moderators
are
 now jumping a little too quickly in a noble effort to keep the peace.
 
 I can self-moderate and be judicious about flagging my postings as I
hope
 others do as well.  But I'm not going to flag every post and I don't
like
 the idea that I or anyone else here should be paranoid when carrying
on a
 discussion because of some underlying implication that we're trying to
sell
 something.
 
 Please keep an eye on my blog. It just occurred to me that I wrote an
 article on this topic a while back and never posted it.  It's time.
 
 My best,
 Tony Gravagno
 Nebula Research and Development
 TG@ removethisNebula-RnD.com /blog
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RE: [U2] Standards [was:OCONV Extraction Question - Good Practice]

2007-11-28 Thread Jerry Banker
Very good analogy and I agree with you.

 -Original Message-
 From: MAJ Programming [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 12:06 AM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: Re: [U2] Standards [was:OCONV Extraction Question - Good
Practice]
 
 Standards vs Styles.
 
 I think Standards are top-down delivered entities in the language from
the
 database providers, ie IBM, Raining Data etc. It's the syntax of
commands.
 
 Styles are the localized adaptations of the commands, combined for a
 consistency. They should not extend beyond the horizon of the programs
that
 the 'stylists' have control over.
 
 Thus, we can share 'styles' and even vote on them. But we all can
choose to
 pick and choose which ones we feel are better suited for use within
our own
 horizons.
 
 IBM and RD give us programmers the same box of crayons respectively.
It's up
 to us to draw with them.
 
 Mark Johnson
 - Original Message -
 From: Boydell, Stuart [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 9:27 PM
 Subject: RE: [U2] Standards [was:OCONV Extraction Question - Good
Practice]
 
 
  Colin,
  excuse my top-posting - I'm using Outlook.
 
  Lol. Well it was supposed to be rhetorical and I wasn't expecting a
  response but since you have; may I cast an opinion that boiling down
a
  definition of good code to being efficient and maintainable and
  calling it a standard is an oversimplification and well, plain
  dangerous.
 
  Of course code should try to exhibit both qualities but, as you
point
  out, they're value calls and aren't measurable by themselves.
Standards
  should always be concrete. Possibly like: Always use a matching
'END'
  clause after an 'IF/THEN' construct regardless of the number of
  statements (eg no single-line IF/THEN conditionals). It's a
concrete
  rule and it can be justified because it makes code 'look' consistent
and
  that's something which helps errors to stand out. It's also no less
  efficient at runtime to use IF/THEN/END than a single line IF/THEN
for a
  condition with only one statement to be performed. (Whether a shop
would
  actually choose that as a real standard is not the point in this
  example).
 
  Among other qualities of 'good' code, I would say - Does it also
perform
  its function? Obvious to say but does code always handle potential
  errors? something which I see very little of in certain areas of
  standard pick code. This can make code quite convoluted... using
  READU/LOCKED/ON ERROR/ELSE, BEGIN/END TRANSACTION etc. Possibly
  overengineered, inefficient, even ugly. But is a program performing
its
  function if say, an update gets a ledger out of balance because it
  doesn't handle a lock, or an out of sync update anomaly correctly.
There
  is the real risk of costly repercussions to the business. I'm sure
  everyone has seen examples of programs that only blind luck keeps
  running in production.
 
  On the no need to look in a manual therefore it must be
maintainable
  mantra. A hypothetical if you will: You're in a U2 only shop working
on
  a testing the values of a dynamic array variable. Would you a) use a
  DCOUNT(), FOR/NEXT construct and call IF/THEN multiple times or b)
use a
  single IFS() vector function? (leaving aside REMOVE() for the
moment)
  can you tell me which construct you'd use measured against
efficient
  and maintainable?
 
  I'd look at it in light of the efficient and maintainable
standard
  and say: The single IFS() function is an order of magnitude simpler
and
  quanta more efficient than the DCOUNT/FOR/IF/THEN/NEXT. In my mind
  something which is a simple, single statement is more maintainable
than
  a multi line/multi statement construct. So for my money, it's a lay
  down misere I'd use the IFS().
 
  However, IFS() isn't used very often in code I've seen. Do you still
  give in to your standard and use the IFS()? You could make an
assumption
  about the maintenance programmer coming after you. Will they look at
  IFS(), suddenly go very pale, panic, run screaming out of the room
  crying 'heresy' and never code again? Or do you give them a smidgeon
of
  credit, that though they have never seen IFS() before, they can open
one
  of the dusty, paper manuals that's been propping up a shelf for the
past
  20 years and read the explanation of IFS() and work it out (Of
course,
  they could then refactor it back to a FOR/IF/THEN/NEXT construct
because
  they're being paid by the hour).
 
  It's a curly path and I reckon that unless you have concrete
statement
  which says - never use or always use vector functions - it's a
  guideline not a standard.
 
  Cheers,
  Stuart
 
 
  -Original Message-
   Good code. What (TF) is that and how does that relate to a
  statements
   inclusion in a manual or not?
   Explain yourself and - the rules for you are - don't peek in a
   dictionary or use an electronic grammar or spell checker. ;-)
   Stuart Boydell
  
  
  Hi Stuart.
  
  

RE: [U2][UV] PE Edition Telnet Service Won't Start

2007-11-28 Thread Jerry Banker
Your license has probably expired. Load a new one.

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 Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 7:48 AM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: [U2][UV] PE Edition Telnet Service Won't Start
 
 I'm having some trouble getting my UniVerse 10.2 PE (Windows) telnet
 service to start.  The last time I used it several months ago it
worked
 just fine.  Now when I try to start it I get this in the event log...
 
 Event Type:   Error
 Event Source: IBM UniVerse
 Event Category:   None
 Event ID: 1004
 Date: 11/28/2007
 Time: 8:40:30 AM
 User: N/A
 Computer: LS031
 Description:
 UniVerse error: Unable to bind socket to telnet port 23. It may be
used
 by other application. WSA error: 10038.
 
 Running an open ports utility I see nothing bound to port 23.  The
 Windows telnet service is disabled.  I have uninstalled and
re-installed
 UniVerse and still have had no success.
 
 Has anyone any suggestions?
 
 Thanks.
 
 Perry Taylor
 ZirMed
 
 
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RE: [U2][UV] PE Edition Telnet Service Won't Start

2007-11-28 Thread Jerry Banker
Actually Missouri was originally part of the Louisiana Territory which
did encompass part of present day Texas (Amarillo to Texarkana).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:National-atlas-1970-1810-loupurchase.
png

 -Original Message-
 From: Baker Hughes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 9:32 AM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: RE: [U2][UV] PE Edition Telnet Service Won't Start
 
 We recently resolved this error for a TEXMUG member - in this case it
 was some Verizon wireless software that had a ghost bind on port 23.
It
 didn't show as bound anywhere but when that software was un-installed
 telnet to UV began working.
 
 Perry, Brenda,
 If you want to read the whole thread, connect to
 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/texas_mug/
 I'll extend a courtesy membership to you (Missouri is Texas Area,
isn't
 it?)
 
 -Baker
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RE: [U2] Time Travel

2007-11-27 Thread Jerry Banker
I've got absolutely nothing against Australians as a matter of fact I
admire them. If the way they are presented to us back here is correct,
they remind me of the way people were in this country fifth years ago
but with some added technology. People that believe in life, liberty,
and the pursuit of happiness, are willing to die to defend it, and to
defend their country. Not a bunch of complainers that can find nothing
better to do than to complain about their email coming in an hour
instead of minutes when it could have come from the other side of the
world.
Let the flames begin.
Jerry

 -Original Message-
 From: Ross Ferris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 4:54 PM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: RE: [U2] Time Travel
 
 C'mmon Jerry ... what have you got against Australians  and
besides,
 if it WAS located on this side of the Pacific Ditch, based on current
 performance, you would see DAYS between posts, because it typically
 takes an hour or two before I see posts too
 
 Ross Ferris
 Stamina Software
 Visage  Better by Design!
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-u2-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry Banker
 Sent: Tuesday, 27 November 2007 6:33 AM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: RE: [U2] Time Travel
 
 I thought that the list server was located in Australia but when I
 looked it up in whois it shows up in Florida and administered by
Donald
 Verhagen!?
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 10:56 AM
  To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
  Subject: RE: [U2] Time Travel
 
  I have to add my two bits. Okay, I don't 'have' to...
 
  I use the exact same email group software (majordomo 1.94.5) on my
 'home'
  system with over 7000 subscribers to over 180 different email
groups.
 Our
  groups never see the delays the members of this group see, so with
 all
 due
  respect, there's something different happening that's causing the
 lags. We
  often see as many as 200 emails a second going out of our server,
 which is
  an 800mghz PIII with 120GB disk, no mirroring (I know, bad idea)
and
  running fedora core 4 (old...). Our group members get their emails
 back
  within seconds, literally. I send an email to this group, and it
 sometimes
  takes an hour or so before I see it come back to me. I send an
email
 to
  one of my groups at home, and I get it back within seconds.
 
  Now then, with that said, I've also added bulk_mailer to my email
 group
  server so maybe that speeds things up a great deal. I don't know. I
 did it
  so I would quit getting the annoying 'too many email connections
from
 your
  server' errors I see from aol, hotmail, msn, yahoo, netscape,
 netzero,
  juno, gmail, . . . ad infinitum of the 'big' email hosts.
 
  My point? none really, other than to show that Charles' nice
 numerically
  explained _time travel_ doesn't match my real-life experience with
my
 own
  majordomo server...
 
  I don't know why, they just aren't the same.
 
  Karl
 
  quote who=Symeon Breen
   Or upgrade to a forum based group - just my standard gripe about
 email
   lists   ;)
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Moderator
   Sent: 26 November 2007 06:03
   To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
   Subject: [U2] Time Travel
  
   To fix this problem, you'd have to
   redesign the methods under which the internet manages and routes
 mail.
  
   - Charles Barouch, Moderator
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RE: [U2] Good Practice?

2007-11-27 Thread Jerry Banker
Maybe your email Nazi isn't releasing your email until he's read it all?
:-) 

 -Original Message-
 From: MAJ Programming [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 5:21 PM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: Re: [U2] Good Practice?
 
 Again, your response is out of sequence as so is mine. I see the back
 slashes today but replied yesterday.
 Maybe the forum is a better idea.
 Mark Johnson
 - Original Message -
 From: Jerry Banker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 8:40 AM
 Subject: RE: [U2] Good Practice?
 
 
  In the case he used it will not show a false positive because he
  enclosed the F200.SCHEME.CODE in \.
 
   -Original Message-
   From: MAJ Programming [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 10:03 PM
   To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
   Subject: Re: [U2] Good Practice?
  
   I find this kind of evolved junk a lot. There's one caveat that
you
  should
   include:
  
   TEST = '\AF1\CK1\CK2\H\LHC\MP\NU1\NU2\TK1\TK2\'
   CONVERT \ TO CHAR(254) IN TEST
   LOCATE F200.SCHEME.CODE IN TEST SETTING FOUND THEN
 ELSE
  
   While actual mileage may differ, when having a lookup table and
using
  INDEX,
   the value of F200.SCHEME.CODE of CK will trigger a false positive.
  
   I like to boil down complex boolean expressions into readable
words as
  well.
   Somehow causes clarity, especially with very verbose variable
names.
  
   MJ
   - Original Message -
   From: Keith Johnson (DSLWN) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
   Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 3:52 PM
   Subject: [U2] Good Practice?
  
  
Here's an example of how I rewrote some code.
   
Old version
284: * IF F200.SCHEME.CODE = CK1 OR F200.SCHEME.CODE =
  CK2
OR F200.SCHEME.CODE = NU1 OR F200.SCHEME.CODE = NU2 OR
F200.SCHEME.CODE = TK1 OR F200.SCHEME.CODE = TK2 OR
   F200.SCHEME.CODE
= GS1 OR F200.SCHEME.CODE = JM OR F200.SCHEME.CODE = MP3
 OR
F200.SCHEME.CODE = LHC OR F200.CALC.CODE = H OR
   F500.S91.ANNUITY.SEQ
+ 0 = 2 OR F500.S48.ANNUITY.SEQ + 0 = 2 OR F200.SCHEME.CODE =
  AF1
   OR
F200.SCHEME.CODE = MP THEN; *002
285:  IF F200.SCHEME.CODE = CK1 OR F200.SCHEME.CODE =
  CK2 OR
F200.SCHEME.CODE = NU1 OR F200.SCHEME.CODE = NU2 OR
   F200.SCHEME.CODE
= TK1 OR F200.SCHEME.CODE = TK2 OR F200.SCHEME.CODE = LHC
 OR
F200.CALC.CODE = H OR F500.S91.ANNUITY.SEQ + 0 = 2 OR
F500.S48.ANNUITY.SEQ + 0 = 2 OR F200.SCHEME.CODE = MP OR
F200.SCHEME.CODE = AF1 THEN ; *002*003
   
New version
261:  THAT = @TRUE
262: *TEST =
   '\AF1\CK1\CK2\GS1\H\JM\LHC\MP\MP3\NU1\NU2\TK1\TK2\'
263:  TEST = '\AF1\CK1\CK2\H\LHC\MP\NU1\NU2\TK1\TK2\'
264:  IF INDEX(TEST,'\':F200.SCHEME.CODE:'\',1) THEN
THAT =
@FALSE
265:
266:  IF F500.S91.ANNUITY.SEQ + 0 GE 2 THEN THAT =
@FALSE
267:  IF F500.S48.ANNUITY.SEQ + 0 GE 2 THEN THAT =
@FALSE
   
I think the new version is easier to maintain (well I would say
  that),
but the code itself is more complex; which is rather
interesting.
   
   
Regards, Keith
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RE: [U2] Good Practice?

2007-11-26 Thread Jerry Banker
In the case he used it will not show a false positive because he
enclosed the F200.SCHEME.CODE in \.

 -Original Message-
 From: MAJ Programming [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 10:03 PM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: Re: [U2] Good Practice?
 
 I find this kind of evolved junk a lot. There's one caveat that you
should
 include:
 
 TEST = '\AF1\CK1\CK2\H\LHC\MP\NU1\NU2\TK1\TK2\'
 CONVERT \ TO CHAR(254) IN TEST
 LOCATE F200.SCHEME.CODE IN TEST SETTING FOUND THEN ELSE
 
 While actual mileage may differ, when having a lookup table and using
INDEX,
 the value of F200.SCHEME.CODE of CK will trigger a false positive.
 
 I like to boil down complex boolean expressions into readable words as
well.
 Somehow causes clarity, especially with very verbose variable names.
 
 MJ
 - Original Message -
 From: Keith Johnson (DSLWN) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 3:52 PM
 Subject: [U2] Good Practice?
 
 
  Here's an example of how I rewrote some code.
 
  Old version
  284: * IF F200.SCHEME.CODE = CK1 OR F200.SCHEME.CODE =
CK2
  OR F200.SCHEME.CODE = NU1 OR F200.SCHEME.CODE = NU2 OR
  F200.SCHEME.CODE = TK1 OR F200.SCHEME.CODE = TK2 OR
 F200.SCHEME.CODE
  = GS1 OR F200.SCHEME.CODE = JM OR F200.SCHEME.CODE = MP3 OR
  F200.SCHEME.CODE = LHC OR F200.CALC.CODE = H OR
 F500.S91.ANNUITY.SEQ
  + 0 = 2 OR F500.S48.ANNUITY.SEQ + 0 = 2 OR F200.SCHEME.CODE =
AF1
 OR
  F200.SCHEME.CODE = MP THEN; *002
  285:  IF F200.SCHEME.CODE = CK1 OR F200.SCHEME.CODE =
CK2 OR
  F200.SCHEME.CODE = NU1 OR F200.SCHEME.CODE = NU2 OR
 F200.SCHEME.CODE
  = TK1 OR F200.SCHEME.CODE = TK2 OR F200.SCHEME.CODE = LHC OR
  F200.CALC.CODE = H OR F500.S91.ANNUITY.SEQ + 0 = 2 OR
  F500.S48.ANNUITY.SEQ + 0 = 2 OR F200.SCHEME.CODE = MP OR
  F200.SCHEME.CODE = AF1 THEN ; *002*003
 
  New version
  261:  THAT = @TRUE
  262: *TEST =
 '\AF1\CK1\CK2\GS1\H\JM\LHC\MP\MP3\NU1\NU2\TK1\TK2\'
  263:  TEST = '\AF1\CK1\CK2\H\LHC\MP\NU1\NU2\TK1\TK2\'
  264:  IF INDEX(TEST,'\':F200.SCHEME.CODE:'\',1) THEN THAT =
  @FALSE
  265:
  266:  IF F500.S91.ANNUITY.SEQ + 0 GE 2 THEN THAT = @FALSE
  267:  IF F500.S48.ANNUITY.SEQ + 0 GE 2 THEN THAT = @FALSE
 
  I think the new version is easier to maintain (well I would say
that),
  but the code itself is more complex; which is rather interesting.
 
 
  Regards, Keith
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RE: [U2] U2 Silliness from a vendor

2007-11-26 Thread Jerry Banker
Unless you are running RFS, no, there are not any. However if you are
they should be on a separate mount. Some may think you need them but
from my experience the database is so robust it has never been
necessary. Of course I've never run the database on MS.
Jerry

 -Original Message-
 From: Jeffrey Butera [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 8:02 AM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: [U2] U2 Silliness from a vendor
 
 We've been having performance problems as of late which have been
tracked down
 to disk IO.  When I was talking with our hardware vendor, he had one
of his
 Sun techs with him where we had the following exchange:
 
 Sun tech: Because of the inherent difference of random and sequential
you want
 to ensure your archive/redo logs are on a different mount then your
database
 files.
 
 Me: Oh - we're not on Oracle.
 
 Sun tech: Whatever the database, you've got archive/redo logs.
 
 If we're not using RFS, can someone confirm that Unidata really
doesn't have
 archive/redo logs - or am I just clueless.  I've been wrong before...
 
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RE: [U2] Time Travel

2007-11-26 Thread Jerry Banker
I thought that the list server was located in Australia but when I
looked it up in whois it shows up in Florida and administered by Donald
Verhagen!?

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 10:56 AM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: RE: [U2] Time Travel
 
 I have to add my two bits. Okay, I don't 'have' to...
 
 I use the exact same email group software (majordomo 1.94.5) on my
'home'
 system with over 7000 subscribers to over 180 different email groups.
Our
 groups never see the delays the members of this group see, so with all
due
 respect, there's something different happening that's causing the
lags. We
 often see as many as 200 emails a second going out of our server,
which is
 an 800mghz PIII with 120GB disk, no mirroring (I know, bad idea) and
 running fedora core 4 (old...). Our group members get their emails
back
 within seconds, literally. I send an email to this group, and it
sometimes
 takes an hour or so before I see it come back to me. I send an email
to
 one of my groups at home, and I get it back within seconds.
 
 Now then, with that said, I've also added bulk_mailer to my email
group
 server so maybe that speeds things up a great deal. I don't know. I
did it
 so I would quit getting the annoying 'too many email connections from
your
 server' errors I see from aol, hotmail, msn, yahoo, netscape, netzero,
 juno, gmail, . . . ad infinitum of the 'big' email hosts.
 
 My point? none really, other than to show that Charles' nice
numerically
 explained _time travel_ doesn't match my real-life experience with my
own
 majordomo server...
 
 I don't know why, they just aren't the same.
 
 Karl
 
 quote who=Symeon Breen
  Or upgrade to a forum based group - just my standard gripe about
email
  lists   ;)
 
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  To fix this problem, you'd have to
  redesign the methods under which the internet manages and routes
mail.
 
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RE: RE: [U2] OCONV Extraction Question - Good Practice

2007-11-23 Thread Jerry Banker
I felt the same way with that part of the test. I have never seen a need
for some of the conversion codes described because there is usually
something less obscure and more descriptive (English like) that can be
used. Now for some programmers the formats and conversions in the test
may be used but I have worked for companies in manufacturing, education,
banking, and accounting and some of the conversions in the test I would
never and have never used.
Jerry

 -Original Message-
 From: Colin Jennings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 9:01 AM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: Re: RE: [U2] OCONV Extraction Question - Good Practice
 
  Go to http://www-03.ibm.com/certify/tests/test_index_bd.shtml#0
 
  If you look down the page you will see the list of certifications
IBM
  has available for U2, just under the Informix certifications, there
are
  6, 5 for UniData and UniVerse Administration and 1 for U2 Family
  Application Development.  The certification testing was free if you
  attended one of the U2 Universities and took the tests there.
 
 
  Brenda Price
 
 
 I did the exams at the recent U2U in London and I have to say that the
 conversions contained in the Family Application Development test were
some
 of the worst examples of code I have ever seen.  Obviously they're
possible,
 but I think I'd consider sacking any programmer that used them!!
 
 Colin.
 (well and truly certified)
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RE: [U2] OCONV Extraction Question - Good Practice

2007-11-23 Thread Jerry Banker
IBM Certified Solutions Expert U2 Family Applications Development
(passed it twice for good measure), IBM Certified Solutions Expert U2
UniVerse V9.6 Administrator for Unix and Windows, and IBM Certified
Solutions Expert U2 UniVerse V10.1 Administrator. You can take the tests
at the U2U or the conferences free of charge. Otherwise, I believe they
are available at any time for a charge.

Jerry

 -Original Message-
 From: MAJ Programming [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 11:49 PM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: Re: [U2] OCONV Extraction Question - Good Practice
 
 Considering the garbage I've inherited, I feel that I've made many
previous
 expressions more concise and direct.
 
 Oh yeah, what Certification ? If any exists, I haven't stumbled upon
it.
 
 Mark Johnson
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RE: [U2] OCONV Extraction Question - Good Practice

2007-11-20 Thread Jerry Banker
I don't like it. I've been in the language for over 25 years and have
passed the certification a couple of times and when I looked at this I
was scratching my head for a while. Obviously you know what you are
doing but what is going to happen with the next programmer when you
retire.

-Original Message-
From: MAJ Programming [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 11:12 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] OCONV Extraction Question - Good Practice

Oddly enough, to make things more interesting, I would have coded it
this
way:

CRT VAR1R0#6: :VAR2/100R2#10: :VAR3/1R4#14

Less typing. For output, the only time I use OCONV is a MTx time
conversion or if the value isn't justified and I want the all the
decimals.
I use DATE()D2/ beaucoups of times.
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RE: [U2] OT: Email encryption

2007-11-16 Thread Jerry Banker
Brenda,
If I'm not mistaken Outlook has an encryption feature built into it.
Jerry

-Original Message-
From: Brenda Price [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 10:27 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] OT: Email encryption

We sometimes have to email csv files with sensitive information to our
clients.  Right now we are just setting a password to the zipped files.
We really need to encrypt either the whole email or just the attached
files.  We are using Microsoft Outlook.



Any ideas?



Brenda L Price

Senior Programmer Analyst

Affiliated Acceptance Corporation

Sunrise Beach, MO

(800)233-8483
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RE: [U2] U2 University San Francisco

2007-11-14 Thread Jerry Banker
Bruce,
I should also add that you don't have to stick to one track. Also, if
you decide that what is being covered is not what you expected you can
switch to another session. Or use that time to get certified. They also
have a free limited range wireless connection if you need to stay in
touch with the home fires during the breaks.
Jerry

-Original Message-
From: Bruce Gauthier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 10:52 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] U2 University San Francisco

Hello Susan,

I am enrolled for U2 University as a first time attendee.

On two separate occasions, I asked IBM Teach if it is required to sign
up for individual sessions (on each of the three tracks) in advance.  I
received two different answers: yes, and no.

Since I have not found any place on-line to sign-up for the individual
sessions, I assume that the sessions are held on a first come, first
serve basis.

If that is the case, can you tell me whether or not full class
sessions are an issue?  Do I need to arrive to the sessions early to
ensure my place?

Thank you.

Bruce Gauthier
I.S. Analyst
County of Nevada

 Susan Joslyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/31/2007 5:03 AM 
I'll be there!  

Nancy, If you are on the fence about whether it is a worthwhile
investment,
I would certainly encourage you.  I have picked up a number of tidbits
that
are helping me EVERY DAY, not even to mention the really interesting
high-brow stuff about efficiency and disaster recovery and then the
help-me-plan-for-the-future stuff of seeing what's coming next.  Putting
faces on names is a bonus, too.  Getting a chance to be HEARD, that one
gets
a gold star.

These are incredibly informative and educational sessions on a wide
variety
of topics all crammed into a very affordable three days.  Everyone I've
talked to at them has said the same thing.  

See ya there.
Susan Joslyn
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RE: [U2] U2 University San Francisco

2007-11-14 Thread Jerry Banker
I attended the one in Denver and there was no signup for any of the
classes just go where your interests lie. Unless the rooms are really
small, or the session is of great interest, I doubt if you will have
trouble getting to go to any of the classes. Some of the classes of
greater interest are duplicated so if you want to go to more than one
class at a particular time check the schedule, there may be one of the
classes repeated later in the week. Also don't forget to take advantage
of the certification tests.
Jerry

-Original Message-
From: Bruce Gauthier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 10:52 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] U2 University San Francisco

Hello Susan,

I am enrolled for U2 University as a first time attendee.

On two separate occasions, I asked IBM Teach if it is required to sign
up for individual sessions (on each of the three tracks) in advance.  I
received two different answers: yes, and no.

Since I have not found any place on-line to sign-up for the individual
sessions, I assume that the sessions are held on a first come, first
serve basis.

If that is the case, can you tell me whether or not full class
sessions are an issue?  Do I need to arrive to the sessions early to
ensure my place?

Thank you.

Bruce Gauthier
I.S. Analyst
County of Nevada

 Susan Joslyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/31/2007 5:03 AM 
I'll be there!  

Nancy, If you are on the fence about whether it is a worthwhile
investment,
I would certainly encourage you.  I have picked up a number of tidbits
that
are helping me EVERY DAY, not even to mention the really interesting
high-brow stuff about efficiency and disaster recovery and then the
help-me-plan-for-the-future stuff of seeing what's coming next.  Putting
faces on names is a bonus, too.  Getting a chance to be HEARD, that one
gets
a gold star.

These are incredibly informative and educational sessions on a wide
variety
of topics all crammed into a very affordable three days.  Everyone I've
talked to at them has said the same thing.  

See ya there.
Susan Joslyn
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[U2] Putting Universe on a SAN

2007-11-09 Thread Jerry Banker
I know I saw some information on this list about not putting Universe on
a SAN. Does anyone have that information readily available? Does anyone
know if the problems they were having were fixed or could be fixed? We
are thinking of putting our Universe data accounts, not the runtime, on
a SAN and using replication to another SAN off site. There will be other
databases on the SAN, FoxPro and SQL Server, Will this cause a problem?
Are any of you doing this? What kind of results are you getting? UV is
on Red Hat the others are on Windows will that be a problem?



Jerry
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RE: [U2] Putting Universe on a SAN

2007-11-09 Thread Jerry Banker
They're talking about mounting the SAN through a fiber channel instead
of NFS or Samba. Will the same problem apply.

-Original Message-
From: Richard Nuckolls [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 3:13 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] Putting Universe on a SAN

re SAN's and Universe:

DELETE.FILE and RESIZE.FILE will not work on dynamic files that are  
NFS mounted. (Universe keeps the DATA.30 file open while trying to  
delete the enclosing directory.  This will fail on an nfs mounted  
directory.) Override the VOC entry with your own version.

Do not access a snapshot of a file from the same mount as the  
original.  At least on NetApps, the inode of the snapshot will  be  
the same as the inode of the original.  Universe will confuse the data.

Besides the usual caveats about making sure that a single machine  
controls locks for any given file, it is also worthwhile to keep the  
NFS under a set folders(4-6 or so) and then give each of these  
folders its own mount point on the host machine. Effectively creating  
multiple devices under UV.

Of course: do not try this without a good UPS.  Most SAN's have one  
built in too.

Corruption of a group is still possible, but our experience has been  
good.

My advice would be to replicate snapshots rather than live data  
(Unless you are using Uv Replication).  With snapshots, you can  
temporarily suspend IO, take a snapshot, and continue.

If you are doing live replication at the SAN level, then a major  
problem (an errant DELETE.FILE, for instance) will be replicated on  
your backup SAN.  Also, suspending IO will avoid catching files in  
transitional states.

Good Luck!

-Rick Nuckolls
Lynden, Inc

On Nov 9, 2007, at 11:01 AM, Jerry Banker wrote:

  Does anyone know if the problems they were having were fixed or  
 could be fixed?

Not at 10.2.2 for those mentioned above.  I have not used Uv Data  
Replication.
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RE: [U2] UV - 10.2.2 [not-secure]

2007-11-07 Thread Jerry Banker
We have this problem at 10.2.4 on Red Hat too.

-Original Message-
From: Hennessey, Mark F. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 10:33 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] UV - 10.2.2 [not-secure]

snip
usa, usm, usp (all the same executable) hang when trying certain
operations.  They problem evidently started with  10.2.1, and fixed at
10.2.6 (not available for Solaris yet)

usa -o -pr0

for instance.  Note that uvadmin, the admin menu, etc all execute these
and will hang when disabling printers or changing forms.  They actually
take the appropriate action, it is just that you have to break or or
kill the task.

The IBM solution seems to be to wait until you open a case, and then
send out a copy of usa rev 10.2.0, which works with 10.2.2 usd.  I
wasted a few hours trying to figure out what I'd done wrong with the
spooler in our upgrade.

The release notes for 10.2.6 are available for some platforms from the
TechConnect availability matrix.  Too bad I did not think of that first.

/snip

This was the problem to I was referring to   I was lucky, in
response to another issue I was told about this problem... Sort of an
Oh, by the way   

This is one of those things that drive me nuts. Try searching the
knowledge base for this problem... Depending on what you enter for
search criteria you get nothing, or a guide to installing UV/NET on
Unix. 
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RE: [U2] sorting by last mv

2007-11-06 Thread Jerry Banker
@RECORDattribute, DCOUNT(@RECORDattribute,@VM)

-Original Message-
From: c callahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 4:41 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] sorting by last mv

I am running UNIDATA and I am looking for help in creating a DICT item
to
determine the last mv value in an attribute.  The attribute contains
submit
dates and are in ascending order.  I need to sort a the file by the most
recent submit date  which is the last date in the attribute. I can get
the
first multi-value (date) with no trouble but I need the LAST muti-value
date.  Is my only option to call a subroutine?

Christine Callahan
Callahan Associates
941-778-0823
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: [U2] curious EQUATE issue - SOLVED Just want to know if anyone understands WHY?

2007-10-24 Thread Jerry Banker
Bill,
So what you are saying is that it is bad usage of the equate statement
even though it can be done. I agree and the '=' is used more often for
this type of equation. However, this program was created 15 years ago
(long before I started here) and had been working fine until the code
was changed with the variable being inserted instead of the raw
character causing us to wonder about why. The program is back to the way
it was and is working fine. We just thought we could get an explanation
from someone on the list as to why it made a difference and maybe let
some of you all out there know to watch out for these little quirks of
the language.
Jerry

-Original Message-
From: Bill Haskett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 9:11 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] curious EQUATE issue - SOLVED Just want to know if
anyone understands WHY?

Jerry:

I hate to mention the obvious, but one should not equate anything unless
they intend
both sides of the equate to change when either variable changes.  For
instance,

DIM MYREC(30)
EQUATE MYREC.DATE TO MYREC(1)
EQUATE MYREC.NAME TO MYREC(2)
--etc--

Thus, whenever MYREC changes, due to a new record read, so does
MYREC.DATE, etc.
Alternatively, you simply have to alter MYREC.DATE to make sure the
MYREC record has
been changed too.  To fix the problems you've encountered try:

VALID.CC.TYPES = 'A':@VM:'B':@VM:'D':@VM:'M':@VM:'S':@VM:'V'
VALID.CC.NAMES = 'American Express':@VM:'Carte Blanche':@VM:'Diners
Club':@VM:'Mastercard':@VM:'Discover':@VM:'Visa'
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RE: [U2] curious EQUATE issue - SOLVED Just want to know if anyone understands WHY?

2007-10-23 Thread Jerry Banker
We are running in Reality flavor on UniVerse 10.2.4 and Red Hat Linux AS3. Here 
is a test of the code using the two forms of LOCATE:

  EQU VALID.CC.TYPES TO 'A':@VM:'B':@VM:'D':@VM:'M':@VM:'S':@VM:'V'
  EQU VALID.CC.NAMES TO 'American Express':@VM:'Carte Blanche':@VM:'Diners 
Club':@VM:'Mastercard':@VM:'Discover':@VM:'Visa'

  EQU VALID.CC.TYPES2 TO 'A]B]D]M]S]V'
  EQU VALID.CC.NAMES2 TO 'American Express]Carte Blanche]Diners 
Club]Mastercard]Discover]Visa'

  CC.ACCT.TYPE = 'A'

  CRT 'Equate with @VM: ':VALID.CC.TYPES
  CRT 'Equate with @VM: ':VALID.CC.NAMES
  CRT
  CRT 'Equate with `253: ':VALID.CC.TYPES2
  CRT 'Equate with `253: ':VALID.CC.NAMES2
  CRT
  CRT 'Account type: ':CC.ACCT.TYPE
  CRT
  CRT 'FIRST WAY'
  LOCATE(CC.ACCT.TYPE, VALID.CC.TYPES, 1 ; CC.PTR) THEN
 CRT 'Account name: ':VALID.CC.NAMES1,CC.PTR
  END ELSE
 CRT 'Account name: NOT FOUND'
  END
  CRT 'Position: ':CC.PTR
  CRT
  CRT 'SECOND WAY'
  LOCATE CC.ACCT.TYPE IN VALID.CC.TYPES1 SETTING CC.PTR THEN
 CRT 'Account name: ':VALID.CC.NAMES1,CC.PTR
  END ELSE
 CRT 'Account name: NOT FOUND'
  END
  CRT 'Position: ':CC.PTR
  CRT
  CRT 'THIRD WAY'
  LOCATE(CC.ACCT.TYPE, VALID.CC.TYPES2, 1 ; CC.PTR) THEN
 CRT 'Account name: ':VALID.CC.NAMES21,CC.PTR
  END ELSE
 CRT 'Account name: NOT FOUND'
  END
  CRT 'Position: ':CC.PTR
  CRT
  CRT 'FOURTH WAY'
  LOCATE CC.ACCT.TYPE IN VALID.CC.TYPES21 SETTING CC.PTR THEN
 CRT 'Account name: ':VALID.CC.NAMES21,CC.PTR
  END ELSE
 CRT 'Account name: NOT FOUND'
  END
  CRT 'Position: ':CC.PTR

  END

And here are the results when you run the test program.

Equate with @VM: A}B}D}M}S}V
Equate with @VM: American Express}Carte Blanche}Diners 
Club}Mastercard}Discover}Visa

Equate with `253: A}B}D}M}S}V
Equate with `253: American Express}Carte Blanche}Diners 
Club}Mastercard}Discover}Visa

Account type: A

FIRST WAY
Account name: American Express}Carte Blanche}Diners 
Club}Mastercard}Discover}Visa
Position: 1

SECOND WAY
Account name: NOT FOUND
Position: 2

THIRD WAY
Account name: American Express
Position: 1

FOURTH WAY
Account name: American Express
Position: 1
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RE: [U2] Fastest Bi-Directional data transfer btwn MV and non MV dbms

2007-10-23 Thread Jerry Banker
Not likely, Baker Hughes has been in the PICK arena for many moons and
is one of the founders of the Texas users group.

-Original Message-
From: Jeff Schasny [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

humorIs it just me or does it smell like troll in here all of a 
sudden/humor
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RE: [U2] Indexing Optimization

2007-10-22 Thread Jerry Banker
Isn't that true only when using 'AND' with the 'WITH' phrase? Using 'OR'
would have to use the whole index/selection again.

-Original Message-
From: Ray Wurlod [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 11:30 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] Indexing  Optimization

One of the rules for UniVerse to use an index is that the restriction
occurs in the first WITH phrase.  The reasoning is that the majority of
records to be excluded will have been excluded by the first WITH clause,
and that therefore the second WITH clause need only examine the record
selected by the first WITH clause.
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RE: [U2] ReadListAsStringArray Returns Nothing

2007-10-19 Thread Jerry Banker
I couldn't find this function in any of the docs, is it a Unidata
function?


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Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 11:34 AM
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Subject: RE: [U2] ReadListAsStringArray Returns Nothing
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RE: [U2] Over-coming EDitor shortcomings

2007-10-16 Thread Jerry Banker
From what I can see this is technical discussion about interfacing with
U2.

-Original Message-
From: Timothy Snyder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 10:08 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] Over-coming EDitor shortcomings

This is shifting into a less technical zone, so I am going to ask
you 

 to move it to community.

Also, *Please, Please, Please* remember to trim quotes when 
 responding. 

Apparently people are filtering out messages from the moderator, because

this topic won't die and people insist on including the entire posting 
history with each message.  Maybe if it comes from somebody besides the 
moderator they'll see it.

Tim Snyder
Consulting I/T Specialist
U2 Lab Services
Information Management, IBM Software Group
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RE: [U2] Over-coming EDitor shortcomings

2007-10-16 Thread Jerry Banker
Some of us work for a living glancing at the emails offering help if we
can. In our haste we sometimes don't notice that the email has grown in
size. This is also one reason that I don't like in-line remarks. If I
don't see what they want at the top I delete it.
Jerry

-Original Message-
From: Timothy Snyder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 3:33 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] Over-coming EDitor shortcomings

 From what I can see this is technical discussion about interfacing
with
 U2.

OK - granted.  But what about over-quoting?  People are reminded about 
this on a regular basis, and sometimes a special mention is made, as in 
this case.  Still they continue to include the entire history.

Tim Snyder
Consulting I/T Specialist
U2 Lab Services
Information Management, IBM Software Group
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RE: [U2] select statement with single quotes

2007-10-15 Thread Jerry Banker
It doesn't matter if you follow the guidelines of the US Postal Service.
They prefer that all punctuation be removed and that you use all
capitalized letters. If you follow those guidelines in storing your data
then no conversion is necessary and everybody is happy.

-Original Message-
From: Kevin King [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 1:01 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] select statement with single quotes

Glen pretty well made my point.  The ` is a grave, not an apostrophe.
Bill,
I'm not sure what exactly you mean; technically the ' is the apostrophe
AND
also single quote.   In fact, apostrophe is the proper name, single
quote is
merely convenient vernacular.
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RE: [U2] Over-coming EDitor shortcomings

2007-10-15 Thread Jerry Banker
JVC invented the VHS format.

-Original Message-
From: MAJ Programming [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 8:07 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] Over-coming EDitor shortcomings

By toy it means that it has less credibility? Please explain.

I'll borrow a video reference that endorses both sides of the unix/MS
desktop debate. In the 1970's, Sony invented the Beta format for video
tape
and Panasonic (et al) invented the VHS (Video Home System). VHS won the
popularity contest yet all along Beta was the better technology. (Oddly
snip
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RE: [U2] Over-coming EDitor shortcomings

2007-10-12 Thread Jerry Banker
I created a pre-store, a few years back, that does something similar
thing in the regular editor. I think we were still on UV 7.4 at the
time.
ED ED FIB
6 lines long.

: P
0001: EPre-stored Command saved at 16:50:53 24 JUN 1998
0002: FORMAT
0003: SAVE
0004: XEQ DECATALOG @FILE @ID
0005: XEQ BASIC @FILE @ID
0006: XEQ CATALOG @FILE @ID
Bottom at line 6.

So when in the regular editor all you have to do is type in: .X FIB
Which is a few more key strokes but less than all of the commands.
I didn't want to do the run because most of the development at the time
was done on a live system. But you could add: XEQ @FILE @ID or XEQ @ID
after the last line and save it as FIBR to do as you are doing.
Jerry

-Original Message-
From: Baker Hughes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 8:40 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] Over-coming EDitor shortcomings

/snip
 FIX
0001 PA
0002 FORMAT BP I2,Enter BP item
0003 ED BP I2,Enter BP item
0004 HUSH ON
0005 DELETE BP.O I2,Enter BP item
0006 HUSH OFF
0007 BASIC BP I2,Enter BP item

My 2 bits on this topic.

Karl

snip\

Which is why I like the AE [alternate] editor.

Once you've executed a format command in your logon session, you simply
type 'FOR' at any time the rest of the day, in any edit session, to
format with the same parameters.

FOR -I3 -M3 [Indention of 3, margin of 3]

BTW, If you're chasing a pesky bug that's hidden in a 14 tier nested
LOOP,IF,CASE,Whatever then use this:
'FOR -TRACE'  it will put pipes in for you where we used to draw lines
with our ruler to trace the logical flow.

Then when your done and want to compile:

'FIBR' will file it, compile it, and run it [don't get to habitual with
the 'R' if your in a sub].

The AE invoked compiler removes the old source when it starts, that way
if the compile produces no object, it doesn't run the old object code.
At least this is the behavior on UV 10 or higher.
 

356:
357:IF HOLD # '' AND NOT(ALARM) THEN
*--: FOR -I3 -M3
Margin=3, Indentation=3, -incase
!!
*--: FOR
Margin=3, Indentation=3, -incase
!!
*--: FIB
Filed DOE.WRITE.SUB.F1675 in file BHB.
Compiling: Source = '/system1/dev.programs/BHB/DOE.WRITE.SUB.F1675',
Object = '/system1/dev.programs/BHB.O/DOE.WRITE.SUB.F1675'

***
000671

Compilation Complete.

Of course, you could stack the FORmat command and the FIBR command into
a saved prestore that you recall when you begin your edit session, but
that's another subject.

FWIW,
-Baker
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RE: [U2] select statement with single quotes

2007-10-12 Thread Jerry Banker
Have you tried using the LIKE option?

SELECT CUSTOMER WITH NAME LIKE ...'...


-Original Message-
From: Charlie Rubeor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 10:21 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] select statement with single quotes

Unidata 6.1, this statement fails.

:SELECT CUSTOMER WITH NAME = [']
missing quote:...'''...
.
.
.

There are no indices on the file and it is not only related to the 
CUSTOMER file.  Any filename and field will result in the same error 
message.  For example, 

SELECT VENDOR WITH ADDRESS = [']

results in the same message.  Is this a known issue?  More importantly,
is 
there an option or setting that I can change to fix it?

--
Charlie Rubeor
Senior Database Administrator
Wiremold/Legrand
60 Woodlawn Street
West Hartford, CT  06110
Tel: 860-233-6251 x3498
Fax: 860-523-3690
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RE: [U2] I *was* Going to the New York U2U Class...

2007-10-12 Thread Jerry Banker
Have they got a definition of what is considered work? Anybody that
attends a convention for their company is usually getting paid while
there so I guess it would be considered working there. Or, would it?

What do you expect from a state that would support Hillary for congress
or anything?

-Original Message-
From: David Wolverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 9:49 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] I *was* Going to the New York U2U Class...

That's why I called -- it appears to be a TERRIBLY written rule/law --
CNA
is who notified me of it, and if you read the 'Comp Blogs' it IS causing
them to lose business.  It wasn't well thought out it appears.  As long
as
you're not 'working' there, you're OK, or if your carrier by default
gives
you some sort of NY rider.  I'd have to add a full policy in my case, or
any
issue I had there that would be 'Comp-able' would be denied everywhere
-- by
CNA locally and by New York - both because I didn't have the right
coverage.
So - not worth the risk or buying a policy since I don't normally have
work
there anyway.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry Banker
 Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 9:26 AM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: RE: [U2] I *was* Going to the New York U2U Class...
 
 I think I would recheck that. If it is true that would stop 
 New York's convention business completely and I don't think 
 that would be what they would want.
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RE: [U2] I *was* Going to the New York U2U Class...

2007-10-12 Thread Jerry Banker
I think I would recheck that. If it is true that would stop New York's
convention business completely and I don't think that would be what they
would want.

-Original Message-
From: David Wolverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 9:05 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] I *was* Going to the New York U2U Class...

But I just found out that if any Employee is 'working' in New York, you
have
to have a New York Workers Comp policy.

This is a new ruling, and I just called Albany compliance (866-298-7830)
to
find out if attending a conference 'counts' as employment
duties/working.
And they said yes.  

So - I for one will not be able to be attending since I'm not going to
add
New York Workers Comp to attend a conference! 

And I thought it should be 'known' that if you are attending as an
'employee' or sending an 'employee', you may want to find out if you
need to
have a New York Workers Comp policy in place.

Hope I can make the California show now!!


David W. 
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RE: [U2] UV Printer file size limit reached

2007-09-28 Thread Jerry Banker
Brian,
1. I checked the spooler this morning and one of the spooler queues was
locked up with one of those child process errors but I don't know when
that happened. I stopped and started the spooler and it cleared the
error to it. I don't know what that could possibly have to do with the
other problem though.

2. One of the first things I checked when the limit error occurred was
the lock table and it only had one lock set.

I had a wonderful day off. I spent the morning with my youngest
Granddaughter at her pre-school. I read a book to the class and got to
eat with them and play games.
Jerry

-Original Message-
From: Brian Leach [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 2:58 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] UV Printer file size limit reached

Jerry

1. Did you check in the uv spool directory to see whether UV was
creating a spool file for some unknown reason (I know your program
doesn't but that fits with the message).

2. If not, could this just be reporting the wrong error message? Is
there, for example, any chance that your program is failing to release a
lock (hey, we've all been there) and that the lock table is filling up?

Brian
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[U2] UV Printer file size limit reached

2007-09-26 Thread Jerry Banker
Today I came across an error I've never had before. While updating a
field on all of the records of a file (approximately 400,000) I received
the error below and the program halted in the debugger. I wasn't running
the program in the debugger. This is happening on our test system that's
running Red Hat Linux AS 3 and UniVerse 10.2.4. The program I am running
is a short program that reads each record, it gets from a select list,
and substitutes the value in a field with another value then writes the
record back out. No big whoop. It runs without any errors on our live
system running the same Linux version but on 10.1.12 of UniVerse. The
config on both systems is set up the same, or at least the same config
directives that are on both systems. The test version is a 5 user
workgroup version and the live system is a 117 user enterprise version,
if that makes a difference. This has happened more than once on more
than one file. The first time I was able to do a 'C' when the debugger
prompt showed up but the second time it quit the session before I could
continue it.



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RE: [U2] UV Printer file size limit reached

2007-09-26 Thread Jerry Banker
No the available space on the test system temporary directory is
196452832 K bytes as opposed to 15188328 K bytes on the live system.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 12:16 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] UV Printer file size limit reached

It is possible that it's maxing out the temp area, which is probably
defined
smaller on the test system than on the live system? 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry Banker
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 9:56 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] UV Printer file size limit reached

Today I came across an error I've never had before. While updating a
field on all of the records of a file (approximately 400,000) I received
the error below and the program halted in the debugger. I wasn't running
the program in the debugger. This is happening on our test system that's
running Red Hat Linux AS 3 and UniVerse 10.2.4. The program I am running
is a short program that reads each record, it gets from a select list,
and substitutes the value in a field with another value then writes the
record back out. No big whoop. It runs without any errors on our live
system running the same Linux version but on 10.1.12 of UniVerse. The
config on both systems is set up the same, or at least the same config
directives that are on both systems. The test version is a 5 user
workgroup version and the live system is a 117 user enterprise version,
if that makes a difference. This has happened more than once on more
than one file. The first time I was able to do a 'C' when the debugger
prompt showed up but the second time it quit the session before I could
continue it.



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RE: [U2] Universe ViewPoint A2 emulation and slave printer

2007-09-21 Thread Jerry Banker
It's all done with the ToolsSettings menu. The terminal type is tab 3 the 
Printer settings are on tab 8. Check the help screens to find out how to 
utilize the printer.

-Original Message-
From: Marcos Fogaga [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 10:13 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] Universe ViewPoint A2 emulation and slave printer

Hi,



Somebody knows how do I configure Universe do use ViewPoint A2 emulation and
also print to a slave printer (using Accuterm emulator)?



Thanks in advance!



Regards,



Marcos Fogaga
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[U2] Forum email

2007-09-20 Thread Jerry Banker
At one time I use to get forum questions as an email. What ever happened
to that?
Jerry
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RE: [U2] Unidata and Win2k3

2007-09-19 Thread Jerry Banker
Not just your vendor, IBM recommends it, the government recommends it,
PCI recommends it, etc.

-Original Message-
From: Marc Harbeson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 7:46 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] Unidata and Win2k3

Depends on what the communications environment is?

Our vendor for example recommends that the Web Portals be installed on
a separate web server because Dot Net is memory hungry.

The Web Portals use the RedBack gateway into UniData.

So I think the answer depends on what this environment is/does.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Smith, Robert
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 7:34 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] Unidata and Win2k3

Good Afternoon,

 We are presently in the process of trying to evaluate whether or not it
would
be in our best interests to locate a portion of our software
infrastructure on
a separate server and I wondered if anyone on this listserv has ever
done
anything similar. We are preparing to move to our vendors newest
software
version - Release 18 - and are concerned that the potential load on our
existing server might be problematic. Our existing production server is
also
going to be Release 18's new home. We're creating the new environment
and
maintaining the existing production environment, at the same time...on
the
same box.

 Initially, we had the option of moving our present Release 17
environment to
either a combined (both app and database on the same server) or
distributed
(not supported after 8/8/2007) configuration. From the beginning, we
planned
to be a combined environment. As other users have gone LIVE with a
combined
environment, we've started to notice that some (a few) were having load
issues. This is a condition we **really** want to avoid. After we
created a
test environment, we decided to pound on it to see what kind of results
we
would get. Unfortunately, a few times we bought the server to a virtual
standstill (this was done during the summer so our normal load was
rather
light). Through discussions with the vendor, a recommendation started to
evolve where the portion of the infrastructure that is used to handle
communications with the database, be moved to a separate server. This
communications server would be hard wired (IP to IP) to our
database/app
server and would handle all traffic between the app/web and the
database. The
thinking is that by off-loading the overhead associated with the app/web
accessing the database onto a separate box, our performance will
improve.
We've created a test communications server and are in the process of
setting
it up on our network. After further discussions today with the vendor,
we're
still not sure what type of results to expect. But mention was made that
Unidata is resource hungry (especially on Windows), and would probably
benefit
from this off-loading.

 I have found over my many years in IT that, although I may think the
issue I
am facing is completely unique, this is rarely the case. Has anyone on
the
listserv ever had to off-load an aspect of their infrastructure onto a
separate server in order to accommodate any resource issues between
their
app/web and Unidata (on Windows)? Even if you've not had to do this, are
there
any recommendations in light of the scenario I've painted above?

Thanks in advance,
Rob Smith
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RE: [U2] Telnet error 1067 in Universe PE

2007-09-19 Thread Jerry Banker
Nice site, does it let you do anything?

-Original Message-
From: Drew Henderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 2:20 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] Telnet error 1067 in Universe PE

Try the info on this link:

http://www.techsupportforum.com/networking-forum/networking-support/8406
9-udpsocket-wsa-error-10038-a.html

HTH
Drew

Baker Hughes wrote:
 Hey y'all,

 A couple of us are trying to help a new UV site nearby get a copy of
PE
 going for a development machine.

 This is the same issue that Charles B. first introduced some weeks
back.

 I took a look at the IBM Thinkpad last night. Here is the skinny.

 OS is XPpro.

 He has un-installed and re-installed PE-UV 10.2 with same results:

 UniVerse will start when machine boots, but not telnet.  When you
 attempt to start manually, you get Telnet error 1067.

 We looked in system.Ini to see if anything is actually bound to port
23
 - nothing appears to be.
 He also ran TCPview to see if anything is listening on port 23 -
 nothing.

 We thought of changing the telnet port from 23 to something else, but
 when we try to start UniAdmin we get an RPC error.
  
 He checked the windows event log and it records the UV telnet service
 not starting with an error WSA Error 10038.

 These folks are extremely happy with UniVerse and the application that
 is helping grow their business.
 PE offers the best option for their getting more familiar with UV and
 speeding future development.
 Please help.

 The right answer will make you guest of honor at the next TEXMUG
meeting
 Nov 1 (free meal!)[travel not included ;-) ]

 Sincere thanks,
 -Baker
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RE: SAPUG Meeting September 20th (was: Re: [U2] User Groups)

2007-09-17 Thread Jerry Banker
I don't know, can you? :-)

-Original Message-
From: Oaks, Harold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 11:33 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: SAPUG Meeting September 20th (was: Re: [U2] User Groups)

Larry:

Can I get authorization to attend this meeting?  The afternoon session
is at 3pm, so I would need to leave about noon driving to get there on
time.

Session cost is $35, plus mileage of course.  I could take care of my
dinner if needed.

Harold 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ross Morrissey
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 10:42 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: SAPUG Meeting September 20th (was: Re: [U2] User Groups)

Speaking of User Groups...

If you're in the Northwest, you definitely want to attend the next SAPUG
- Seattle Area Pick User Group meeting next Thursday September 20th.
We're going to hear details about the most ambitious UV project I know
of from Steve Ritchie of Market America:

Join Steve Ritchie, VP of R/D and founding member of Market America to
hear about how Universe is being in numerous unique ways to run their
company as well as their growth financially and the steady buildup of
their IT department. Steve will talk about challenges with rolling out a
truly massive UniVerse project and about how the power of UniVerse has
helped propel Market America to a billion dollar company in 5 countries.

This is the project that elicited gasps at the U2UG Meeting at last
year's Cincinnati Spectrum show.

Our afternoon session will feature a technology preview from MITS
looking at some of the technology underlying the advanced features in
the next releases of MITS Discover and MITS Report.  Special thanks to
MITS for making their expertise available and underwriting this meeting.

For details, see http://www.sapug.org and make sure to RSVP soon.

Thanks, Ross
VP Events - SAPUG
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RE: [U2] UniVerse and Shadow copy on Windows 2003

2007-09-17 Thread Jerry Banker
MASTER OFF ALL on Universe.

-Original Message-
From: Norman Morgan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 3:40 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] UniVerse and Shadow copy on Windows 2003

So, what is the best way to log users off cleanly in mass?  You
certainly can't depend on users to log off for themselves.  Asking,
begging, threateningnone of that works.  I know for certain if I log
in at 03:00, there will be 15 to 20 users still logged in, even though
the building has been empty for hours.

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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 Timothy Snyder
 Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 3:09 PM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse and Shadow copy on Windows 2003
 
  The only way to guarantee business level data integrity in
 non-transactional 
  applications is to force all users off the system briefly 
 while you do
 steps 
  1 - 3.
 
 That's a good point.  However, it's important to have a 
 controlled way to do so.  I've had people think they were 
 safe to just log everybody off. Of course, there's no way to 
 ensure you're not doing *that* in the middle of a transaction. ;-)
 
 Much worse, I've even had people with good intentions of 
 getting everybody off of the system so they could have stable 
 backups.  How did they do it? 
 With stopud -f or by doing a kill -9 on each user.  Either 
 one could create a mess at least as bad as backing up hot, 
 since processes are not terminated cleanly.  Actually, the 
 mess could be worse with the unconditional kill methods, 
 since they could result in corruption of the live database 
 files, while backing up hot only impacts the backup copy. 
 And if you do that while running RFS, head for the hills.
 
 Tim Snyder
 Consulting I/T Specialist
 U2 Lab Services
 Information Management, IBM Software Group
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