[U2] Re: U2 Users Digest V1 #550

2005-03-08 Thread trevor_allen
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[U2] I-Type and Assoc

2005-03-08 Thread Vincent MASSON
Dear all, I have a problem with an I-type used in an association. Here is my I-descriptor : SUBR('SQ_CAL_SUB','GQ.COD.TAB',@RECORD3,@MV:'|':'TMDEFN':'|':'CT.ES'); SUBR('SQ_CAL_SUB','OEM2ANSI',@1) When I use this descriptor in a select (through ODBC), I get this : [EMAIL PROTECTED]E

Re: [U2] UV Programmer/Analyst contract position

2005-03-08 Thread CWNoah2
And I wouldn't muck around in the stuff plumbers do for $120 an hour! ;^) Regards, Charlie Noah [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes: My plumber chargers 60 an hour -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mark Johnson

Re: [U2] I-Type and Assoc

2005-03-08 Thread Manu Fernandes
Re, Inside a I-Type; SUBR is called only one time. The first. You need to return a mv'ed dynamic array. That the reason why there is many functions to manage mv'ed field. Functions are usually postfixed by S like CHAR and CHARS. You must have :

RE: [U2] broken dynamic file on UDT

2005-03-08 Thread Alfke, Colin
Chuck, I feel your pain. I've spent the good part of the last two weekends fixing a similar problem. I'm not sure how big *very* large is in your world is, in mine it was about 3GB. Guide didn't find an error in the file but it would coredump when certain items were filed. Programs trying to

[U2] Unique Ids

2005-03-08 Thread dsig
I just came out of a meeting where it was stated that MV databases allow non-unique keys. Now I have been working in the VM world since 1983 and although I can remember a time when some of the implementations had 'problems' with hash and specific data in keys .. i can not think of a time when MV

RE: [U2] Unique Ids

2005-03-08 Thread Allen E. Elwood
Hi David, It ain't so Joe! All keys must be unique. If I have a record with the ID of JoeItAintSo and I try to add another record with the same key, it will just overwrite the original record. I can have JoeItAintSo, JoeItAintSo1, JoeItAintSo2, etc., that works, maybe that was what they were

RE: [U2] Unique Ids

2005-03-08 Thread Kevin King
Well certainly you have have two records with the same ID, but only if there is more than a single file in play. I can have record X in both file A and file B, but I cannot have a record with a key of X twice in file A without some file corruption. There is uniqueness within a single file, but

RE: [U2] Unique Ids

2005-03-08 Thread Kathleené M Bodine
The person who had the comment has worked in the MV world for how long. The only time I have seen this was when a file was corrupted. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 10:38 AM To: U2 Users

Re: [U2] Unique Ids

2005-03-08 Thread Susan Lynch
I don't recall an MV implementation that intentionally allowed non-unique primary keys. Were the people in the meeting thinking of secondary keys (aka indexes) in which non-unique keys are quite possible? The only other thing I can think of would be the old (and non-intentional!) problems with

RE: [U2] Unique Ids

2005-03-08 Thread Ray Wurlod
The only time I've seen duplicate key values in UniVerse files is when the file has become corrupted. I suspect that doesn't fall into the assertion made in your meeting, which is just plain wrong. Hashing algorithms wouldn't be as effective as they are if duplicate key values were allowed.

RE: [U2] Unique Ids

2005-03-08 Thread Veenhof, Peter
The only other thing I can think of, using Universe Pick flavor account, I can make a key of JOE and a key of joe which it thinks are two different records. So keys are case sensitive. That'd be the closest I can think of non-unique keys. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [U2] Unique Ids

2005-03-08 Thread Allen Egerton
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 1:37 PM I just came out of a meeting where it was stated that MV databases allow non-unique keys. snip Secondary keys perhaps, if you're considering the indexes as keys, but not the primary key. Primary keys are by definition unique.

RE: [U2] Unique Ids

2005-03-08 Thread dsig
thanks for the early replies .. it is good to know that i have not been wrong for the last 20 years g .. well at least in this instance G DSig David Tod Sigafoos SigsSolutions, Inc. Original Message Subject: RE: [U2] Unique Ids From: Allen E. Elwood [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [U2] Unique Ids

2005-03-08 Thread Marilyn Hilb
Perhaps they were referring to indexes? Such as a customer type field within the customer file. You could have customer 123 and customer 456 with the same customer type of WHL and the index on Customer Type would have WHL in there 'twice', once for each customer. Thanks, Marilyn A. Hilb

RE: [U2] Unique Ids

2005-03-08 Thread Anthony Dzikiewicz
Indexes don't have to be unique. Is that what they were referring to ? Anthony -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 1:38 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] Unique Ids I just came out of a

RE: [U2] Unique Ids

2005-03-08 Thread Marilyn Hilb
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RE: [U2] Unique Ids

2005-03-08 Thread dsig
Susan, This is the approach I took with the speaker. There was a period of time 'in the good old days' where the has could go goofy either through corruption or keys containing system delimiters .. But as the speaker (supposidly with the same term of experieince as I) was teaching the benefits

RE: [U2] Unique Ids

2005-03-08 Thread Bob Woodward
I often wonder about SQL. scratching bald spot on head BobW -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-u2- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 12:26 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] Unique Ids

RE: [U2] Unique Ids

2005-03-08 Thread Bill H.
Dave: Since D3 can be case-insensitive, it's possible to: 1) Create an item in (VOC) named Joe 2) Edit an item named JOE, which is the item Joe, and file it. So, from a certain perspective, one could say that D3 allows an item named JOE, JOe, joe, jOE, etc to share the same record key of Joe;

Re: [U2] Unique Ids

2005-03-08 Thread Susan Lynch
Aha - the 'same term of experience', but apparently not the same level of understanding! Reminds me of a description by Jane Austen of a person whose university experience had consisted of keeping the necessary number of terms, but forming no useful acquaintance there... G Susan Lynch F.W.

Re: [U2] Unique Ids

2005-03-08 Thread Jerry Banker
Now you could have a situation where you brought a part file online that had a duplicate key. - Original Message - From: Bob Woodward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 2:41 PM Subject: RE: [U2] Unique Ids I often wonder about SQL.

Re: [U2] Unique Ids

2005-03-08 Thread Craig Bennett
David, I just came out of a meeting where it was stated that MV databases allow non-unique keys. perhaps the person was refering to multivalues? If you were modelling parents and children in an SQL database you might use a PARENTS table and a CHILDREN table. Usually neither table would allow

RE: [U2] Unique Ids

2005-03-08 Thread dsig
How would you 'create' the part file to begin with having a non-unique key. If you are talking about say .. a csv file that is imported .. the csv could have duplicate keys .. but i bet after the import the 'mv' table will not have any duplicate keys. DSig David Tod Sigafoos SigsSolutions,

RE: [U2] Unique Ids

2005-03-08 Thread dsig
The actual definition (relational or sql?) requires a unique column(or set of columns). It is possible in *all* implementations to allow for this to be missing. It is frowned upon .. but it is possible. Lots of little 'features' depending on the implementation. Like languages that are 'typed'

RE: [U2] Unique Ids

2005-03-08 Thread Pingilley, Ron
David, If you added a new part to an existing distributed file, and the new part already had records in it, you could potentially have records in this new part whose item-id should be in another part based on the partitioning algorithm. Then you could create that item-id in the proper

Re: [U2] Unique Ids

2005-03-08 Thread Geoffrey Mitchell
You can do it with a Universe SQL table (Make MV values unique, that is). In traditional UV tables, however, you are correct. The uniqueness in this case is a combination of the primary key and the MV position. I would also guess that the person in question was referring to multivalues since

RE: [U2] I-Type and Assoc

2005-03-08 Thread Stevenson, Charles
Vincent, I am not sure why you get a one character answer one way and a full word the other. I assume that's either in the nature of how your SQ_CAL_SUB is written called, or from formatting applied differently in the 2 methods. I think we need more context. Manu Fernandes seems to be

RE: [U2] Unique Ids

2005-03-08 Thread dsig
Yes .. UV sql does allow that, and so does most Sql *servers* available now. In fact Oracle has an inbedded structure now. Haven't played with it .. i try to stay away from Oracle if I can. I would also guess that the person in question was referring to multivalues since traditional MV

[U2] [UV] non-numeric error after passing (ANS MATCHES '0N' ANS0)

2005-03-08 Thread Stevenson, Charles
The relevant code ( I am VERY sure source matches object): 072: BEGIN CASE 073: CASE ANS MATCHES '0N' ANS0 074: IF MITM5,ANS# THEN 075: IF MITM7,ANS# THEN GOSUB 200 ; IF ERR THEN GOTO 15 287: 200:*Subroutine For Password Check. 291: IF MITM7,ANS[1,1] = # THEN 310: IF

Re: [U2] Unique Ids

2005-03-08 Thread Jerry Banker
I'm glad I read through the rest of the messages before replying. Thank you Ron for the explanation on my behalf. - Original Message - From: Pingilley, Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 4:33 PM Subject: RE: [U2] Unique Ids David, If

Re: [U2] [UV] non-numeric error after passing (ANS MATCHES '0N' ANS0)

2005-03-08 Thread Bruce Nichol
Goo'day, Charles, At 18:25 08/03/05 -0500, you wrote: The relevant code ( I am VERY sure source matches object): 072: BEGIN CASE 073: CASE ANS MATCHES '0N' ANS0 074: IF MITM5,ANS# THEN 075: IF MITM7,ANS# THEN GOSUB 200 ; IF ERR THEN GOTO 15 287: 200:*Subroutine For Password

RE: [U2] broken dynamic file on UDT

2005-03-08 Thread Wally Terhune
I'm not familiar with the Pick(r) DUMP command, but you can peer into a group with fileview... Simple syntax: $UDTBIN/fileview -g1 VOC You can dump blocks using the -b option (useful for overflow blocks - chasing the links). Different arguments for part files in dynamic files, etc. Also - Colin

Re: [U2] [UV] non-numeric error after passing (ANS MATCHES '0N' ANS0)

2005-03-08 Thread Ezhno Cheveyo
072: BEGIN CASE 073: CASE ANS MATCHES '0N' ANS0 074: IF MITM5,ANS# THEN 075: IF MITM7,ANS# THEN GOSUB 200 ; IF I saw a case similar to this. There was this program code which was looking for an address. There was an index per building where the city code, civic number

RE: [U2] broken dynamic file on UDT

2005-03-08 Thread Alfke, Colin
Thanks Wally. I keep forgetting that I can use fileview. The good thing about UniData is that I don't need it nearly as often :-). Dump is just like a hex file viewer. Plus will follow the links backwards and forwards. Read only so not dangerous. I meant to not give quite enough details to

RE : [U2] I-Type and Assoc

2005-03-08 Thread Vincent MASSON
Hi Charles, Thanks a lot for your help and explanation. Know, I understand the use of the @MV in an I-descriptor. In my case, I can't use a BY-EXP clause because I'm working with SQL statements sent through ODBC to Universe. Finally, I made the modifications suggested by Manu Fernandes in my

[U2] Upgrading Universe to 10.1.4

2005-03-08 Thread Tim Franklin
We are in the process of upgrading a 800+ Universe system from 10.0.7 to 10.1.4, is anyone aware of any functionality that works at the previous release but no longer at the upgrade release. Many thanks, Tim Franklin --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe

RE: [U2] [UV] non-numeric error after passing (ANS MATCHES '0N' ANS0)

2005-03-08 Thread Alfke, Colin
In UniData the '.' and '-' will evaluate as numeric. You might want to check how these would fall through your logic in UniVerse. hth Colin Alfke -Original Message- From: Stevenson, Charles The relevant code ( I am VERY sure source matches

RE : [U2] Upgrading Universe to 10.1.4

2005-03-08 Thread Vincent MASSON
Hi Tim I think you'll have to reinstall ODBC drivers on each client. I don't see anything else. Best regards, Vincent MASSON Infodata Sarl Tel : (352) 33 16 48 Fax : (352) 33 75 55 -Message d'origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] De la part de Tim Franklin Envoyi

[U2] PHANTOM command

2005-03-08 Thread Tim Franklin
I believe in a previous email I have read that it is possible to specify a user name that you can supply on the command line to the PHANTOM command and this user will be used to log on to run the command. Does anyone have the details? Tim Franklin --- u2-users mailing list