Hi.
While I'm a STRONG ADVOCATE of a separate development account -- you can
"locally" catalog programs to achieve what you are after, here.

Even that is problematic though, without a separate account - because you're
in the same VOC so you do have to rename the file or the program.

What are the objections to a sensical separate development area?

Susan

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U2 Users Digest         Monday, May 26 2008         Volume 01 : Number 2224



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    RE: [U2] execute code/proc question HELP!!!!!!!!
    RE: [U2] execute code/proc question HELP!!!!!!!!
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Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 11:35:45 -0400
From: "Doug Chanco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [U2] execute code/proc question HELP!!!!!!!!

Yeah we discussed the separate account idea 9we did that at my last job)
but here its more difficult and for ,whatever> reason people are against
it <sigh>

Your other idea is not bad, but then we would have to change it in any
calling programs BUT I suppose that may be the best I can get out of
universe.

Hopefully there is some super genius lurking around that might have some
additional thoughts (I hope)

Thanks for the response

Dougc

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Subject: Re: [U2] execute code/proc question HELP!!!!!!!!

The best would be to have a development account to separate the code. 
Without that option, the easiest would be to rename the program in
DOUG.BP 
to something a bit different (I.e. DOUG.DEV).  compile and catalog the 
original DOUG in EURO.BP and DOUG.DEV in DOUG.BP.  Users could run the 
original DOUG.  When you are done fixing DOUG.DEV, copy it over DOUG in 
DOUG.BP and recompile.

Steve

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Subject: [U2] execute code/proc question HELP!!!!!!!!

> is there any way in Universe 10.x (running on AIX) to "path" how
universe 
> finds code to execute?  For example I have a program called
>
> "DOUG" in EURO.BP and copy it to DOUG.BP and compile/catalog it there,
so 
> that now the VOC entry points to DOUG.BP but I would like other users
to 
> be able to run the original version while I fix my version.
>
> For those familiar with jBASE this is easily solved by modifying each 
> users path to that they "search" for the object code in a specific
order.
> for example
>
> PATH=$PATH:/usr2/zircon/DOUG.O:/usr2/zirocn/EURO.BP.O
>
> this way it looks in DOUG.BP.O and if the object code is found
executes it 
> otherwise look in EURO.BP.O and if found there execute it.  Now all I
have 
> to do is modify other users PATH to NOT search DOUG.BP.O or move
EURO.BP.O 
> in front of DOUG.BP.O and it will find EURO.BP.O first (and stop
looking)
>
> I am hoping that there is something equivalent in universe or some way

> that I can duplicate this (I am even willing to look at doing it "with

> basic code"  if possible)
>
> ANY and ALL suggestions are welcomed!
>
> thanks
>
> dougc
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Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 17:10:38 -0400
From: "Israel, John R." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [U2] execute code/proc question HELP!!!!!!!!

Not really a lot of work.

Once your tester program is written (should not be very big), your code
would change FROM something like:
  CALL XXXX(ARG1, ARG2...)
To
  CALL VERSION.TESTER(XXXX)
  CALL @XXXX(ARG1, ARG2...)
(or something like that)

Off the top of my head, this should not be too bad.  Just make sure you
find ALL the programs that call XXXX and change them at the same time.

The one place this does NOT work well is with I-Desc because they are
hard-coded to use the name XXXX.  However, I would not worry about these
until they become an issue.  As long as you keep the limitations of this
in mind, it works amazingly well.


John Israel
Sr. Programmer/Analyst
Dayton Superior Corporation
721 Richard St.
Dayton, OH  45342
937-866-0711 x44380

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Subject: Re: [U2] execute code/proc question HELP!!!!!!!!

hmmm this is a very interesting idea ..........

thank you very much, its not as elegant as the path command but I think 
it will do what I need

but if I understand it correctly there 2 things that have to be done

1. logic added to each program for this tester subroutine
2. the program would have to have a different name from the original
program

while step one would be a lot of work, I can see it working  pretty well

once the logic is in most of the programs

thanks!

dougc

Israel, John R. wrote:
> Write a simple tester subroutine that passes the name of the
> original/standard program.
>
> This subroutine reads a control record that uses your
> user_id:"*CODETESTING" as the key (thus unique to each user).  If not
> found (which would be the case for most users), return the original
> program name.  If found, do a LOCATE in F1 for the original program
> name.  If not found, return the original program name.  If the
original
> program name IS found in F1, return the optional program name from the
> associated position in F2 (if F2 is missing, return the original pgm
> just in case).
>
> F1 = multi-valued list of original pgms
> F2 = multi-valued list of test pgms
>
> Use the @ logic for doing a dynamic call to the returned pgm name.
>
> Granted, this is a bit of work up front, but once you have this tester
> subroutine written and the coded added to your program(s), you could
> leave this test in place anywhere you want.  Add this logic as you
need
> it.  You just disable it by removing the program names from F1/F2.  If
> this control record ever becomes empty, you could even delete it.
>
> Optionally, you could do this test at login time and save the info in
> some common named variable(s).  You just need to log out/in to reset
> this stuff.
>
> I have used something like this in the past and it worked VERY well.
By
> using these control records, you can even give selected other users
> access to this program for testing before rolling it out to the rest
of
> the world.  Just remember to delete the stuff from the control
record(s)
> once you switch it over.
>
>
>
>
> John Israel
> Sr. Programmer/Analyst
> Dayton Superior Corporation
> 721 Richard St.
> Dayton, OH  45342
> 937-866-0711 x44380


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Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 13:03:46 -0600 (MDT)
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Subject: [U2] Wyse SX0 WinTerm S10 available

We are using a few thin clients, but because of our current
implementation, this model isn't suitable for our environment.

Anyone wishing to acquire it (we pay shipping) for a fair price, let me
know.

The particulars are:

Model 902105-01 purchased January of 2007, but only used an hour or so

It will use RDP (Terminal Services) or Citrix to connect to a remote host.

If you are interested, please email me privately with an offer.

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