Re: [U2] WRITE issues??

2007-05-22 Thread Ron Hutchings
] Reply-To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] WRITE issues?? Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 13:44:21 -0400 The more I think about this, I can't imagine it being a software problem or a hardware problem. It doesn't make sense

Re: [U2] WRITE issues??

2007-05-22 Thread Pamela J Robbins
Thanks everyone. I'm trying to answer all questions in the same email. We have a very old system (about 20 years). It's mostly 'vanilla' pick. We've been using UniVerse for longer than I've been working with this system (4 years). I worked with MUMPS for the previous 23 years. We don't

RE: [U2] WRITE issues??

2007-05-22 Thread Stevenson, Charles
I know you already said it's ok, but I'd double check for READs where READUs belong. Especially since you've described this as having a Pick heritage from a time when some Pick implementations and programmers did not handle locking well. One user's changes can easily wipe out another's. WRITE

RE: [U2] WRITE issues??

2007-05-22 Thread Debster
) also has the MD's created on it -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Pamela J Robbins Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 9:07 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] WRITE issues?? Thanks everyone. I'm trying to answer all questions

Re: [U2] WRITE issues??

2007-05-22 Thread Pamela J Robbins
Thanks, I've already found a few. I tested them and you're correct. I saw it happen. We're still looking for more of those. Pam Stevenson, Charles wrote: I know you already said it's ok, but I'd double check for READs where READUs belong. Especially since you've described this as having a

[U2] WRITE issues??

2007-05-21 Thread Pamela J Robbins
Has anyone seen a problem like this? The user claims they changed a record, then checked to make sure it actually changed. They find everything updated, but on checking days later, finds the data back in it's original state. We've had several claims like this over the past week and a half

Re: [U2] WRITE issues??

2007-05-21 Thread Charles Barouch
Pam, I've seen this with bad locking schemes. Does your application do real U2 locking, or is it using a custom lock scheme? Charles Barouch ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Pamela J Robbins wrote: They find everything updated, but on checking days later, finds the data back in it's original

Re: [U2] WRITE issues??

2007-05-21 Thread Pamela J Robbins
The more I think about this, I can't imagine it being a software problem or a hardware problem. It doesn't make sense. It has to be user problems. I did find a program that didn't have locks, but that's been fixed and doesn't apply here. Pamela J Robbins wrote: Has anyone seen a problem

RE: [U2] WRITE issues??

2007-05-21 Thread Mark Eastwood
I had a customer who would take their nightly backup tape and restore it to a secondary server the next day. Well, one time the operator got confused about which machine he was on, and sure enough, restored prior day's backup onto the Live system. Wonder if he's still there? Mark Has anyone

Re: [U2] WRITE issues??

2007-05-21 Thread Allen Egerton
Pamela J Robbins wrote: Has anyone seen a problem like this? The user claims they changed a record, then checked to make sure it actually changed. They find everything updated, but on checking days later, finds the data back in it's original state. We've had several claims like this over

Re: [U2] WRITE issues??

2007-05-21 Thread Pamela J Robbins
It's using READU to lock records. I did find a couple of programs without locks at all. They were the root of some of the problems. Unfortunately, when I put them in, one of the users decided to break out of the system by closing SecureCrt and caused a problem. I would like to redo the

Re: [U2] WRITE issues??

2007-05-21 Thread Pamela J Robbins
Yes, it does sound like a programmer/operations issue and we have a new user supervisor who is trying to make things more efficient. The changes could be causing some of the problems. They're good changes, but the users need to get used to them. No test system, I keep praying for one

Re: [U2] WRITE issues??

2007-05-21 Thread Jerry
been made but in actuality the array hasn't been updated. Jerry - Original Message - From: Charlie Rubeor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 1:52 PM Subject: Re: [U2] WRITE issues?? The only way that I know that this can happen is if the server

Re: [U2] WRITE issues??

2007-05-21 Thread john reid
Here 'Trigger! Sounds like it may be time for some type (really really simple) of update audit. j On 5/21/07, Pamela J Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone seen a problem like this? The user claims they changed a record, then checked to make sure it actually changed. They find

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2007-05-21 Thread colin.alfke
Warning: This message has had one or more attachments removed Warning: (not named). Warning: Please read the AngelicHost-Attachment-Warning.txt attachment(s) for more information. Ditto, I had one boss that thought he would solve some locking issues by putting a RELEASE in one of our main data