Re: [U2] global catdir question - security hole

2005-12-19 Thread Martin Phillips
My last word on this (at least for now!) You can lock down Universe so that a UniObjects developer cannot modify or delete files. If someone with a genuine commercially sensistive environment would like to give me a valid user name and password for uniObjects access to their system, I will

RE: [U2] global catdir question - security hole

2005-12-19 Thread Hona, David S
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stevenson, Charles Sent: Saturday, 17 December 2005 2:47 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] global catdir question - security hole David Wolverton As a 'security risk', has IBM explicitly been asked to fix this item and said

Re: [U2] global catdir question - security hole

2005-12-19 Thread john reid
. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stevenson, Charles Sent: Saturday, 17 December 2005 2:47 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] global catdir question - security hole David Wolverton As a 'security risk', has

RE: [U2] global catdir question - security hole

2005-12-16 Thread David Wolverton
As a 'security risk', has IBM explicitly been asked to fix this item and said they'd prefer just to leave a gaping hole? Or is it like many things, everyone knows it, but everyone thinks someone else has followed up on it, and it must just be 'the way it must be'... Remember, IBM does not

Re: [U2] global catdir question - security hole

2005-12-16 Thread Results
David, BetterBetter [EMAIL PROTECTED] will be actively back in business starting the second week in January. You could bring this to IBM through them as well. - Chuck Security Risk Barouch David Wolverton wrote: As a 'security risk', has IBM explicitly been asked to fix this item

RE: [U2] global catdir question - security hole

2005-12-16 Thread Stevenson, Charles
David Wolverton As a 'security risk', has IBM explicitly been asked to fix this item and said they'd prefer just to leave a gaping hole? Or is it like many things, everyone knows it, but everyone thinks someone else has followed up on it, and it must just be 'the way it must be'...

RE: [U2] global catdir question - security hole

2005-12-16 Thread Glenn Herbert
. __ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stevenson, Charles [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 10:47 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] global catdir question - security hole David Wolverton

Re: [U2] global catdir question - security hole

2005-12-16 Thread Martin Phillips
I think that this goes back to the issue I tried to raise a couple of months back but failed to get much interest. Imagine that I have an employee who has a valid user name and password to use my uniObjects based application. He is a knowledgeable sort of chap who goes home and uses uniObjects to

RE: [U2] global catdir question - security hole

2005-12-16 Thread Stevenson, Charles
I think you have the answer. Someone would have to gain access into your system, and having done so, what would be the point of sabotaging something within universe to do something malicious? They already have access to your system. If it's someone internal, then I would imagine your hiring

RE: [U2] global catdir question - security hole

2005-12-16 Thread Glenn Herbert
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 12:49 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] global catdir question - security hole I think that this goes back to the issue I tried to raise a couple of months back

RE: [U2] global catdir question - security hole

2005-12-16 Thread David Wolverton
PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] global catdir question - security hole Nope. I certainly agree it should be fixed. Historically, it was never high on the to-fix list, but in today's world, it certainly would be advantageous

RE: [U2] global catdir question - security hole

2005-12-16 Thread David A. Green
I'm not sure there is a security risk if your system is setup correctly. Your object code needs to be secured so that root only can update. When you run a program isn't it the sbcs (Shared Basic Code Server) that updates the run counter? And sbcs would have permissions. Can someone on the list

RE: [U2] global catdir question - security hole

2005-12-16 Thread David Jordan
@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] global catdir question - security hole I think that this goes back to the issue I tried to raise a couple of months back but failed to get much interest. Imagine that I have an employee who has a valid user name and password to use my uniObjects based

RE: [U2] global catdir question - security hole

2005-12-16 Thread Ken Wallis
David A. Green wrote: I'm not sure there is a security risk if your system is setup correctly. Your object code needs to be secured so that root only can update. When you run a program isn't it the sbcs (Shared Basic Code Server) that updates the run counter? And sbcs would have

RE: [U2] global catdir question - security hole

2005-12-15 Thread Stevenson, Charles
It is a security hole, well-known and by design. From: john reid I notice that an ls -lt in the u1 /uv /catdir directory indicates that the *PROGRAM.NAME is updated apparently each time an execution happens, at least that is what it looks like to me. Anyone know if or why that is

Re: [U2] global catdir question - security hole

2005-12-15 Thread Jerry Banker
Well if it wasn't well known it is now. - Original Message - From: Stevenson, Charles [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 9:38 AM Subject: RE: [U2] global catdir question - security hole It is a security hole, well-known and by design