For what it's worth, that's why when we recently upgraded out UniVerse /
Windows2003 Production server, I specifically said "don't get more than
4GB". To use more than that, with a 32-bit Windows platform, you need to
use the /PAE and /3GB switches. I think you may also need to use Win2K3
Enterprise or DataCenter versions. I didn't want to make our UV server
the first one in our network to be configured that way, so we 'stayed
small'

If you want to use more than 4GB RAM with Windows, you really need to go
to the Windows Server 64-bit editions, and you'd want to check the
Availability Matrix to see which releases of UD are qualified.

My $NZ0.02


Regards


Mike

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Sent: Saturday, 29 March 2008 9:31 a.m.
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Subject: RE: [U2] RE: UNIDATA 7.1 performance measures

Hi Jeff,

 We have since come to realize that the /3gig switch is not for us. What
we are trying to do is be proactive to hopefully avoid a problem
situation. Late last year we were forced to move to the latest version
of the vendor software we use. Under the previous version, our
registration process ran like a charm. It took a while for us to get to
that plateau but once we had achieved it...life was good. This new
software has a number of challenges that we've been able to address
however, this coming month will be the first time we've used it for
student registration. We only recently realized that because we are a
Win2k3 32bit client that is *not* using SQL Server, we really can't take
advantage of some of the advanced memory options available. Because of
the way Windows manages memory, we effectively only have control of
memory in the <4gig window. And to make matters worse, said 4gig window
is sub-divided between user and kernel activities. So after monitoring
system activities using RRDTOOL over a period of time, we realized that
everything we are doing on the app server is crammed into <2.5gig...this
is a 16gig box. We discovered that if our vendors' software had made use
of the AWE API that allows for better memory management, we would be in
a better position...but they don't and we're not. We have run
registration simulations and have discovered approximately when
registration will crash...but we doubt (and hope) we will ever reach
that level of activity.  

 You mentioned UD settings below. Would you mind sharing yours with us? 

Thanks,
Rob Smith
Philadelphia University    

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Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 2:22 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] RE: UNIDATA 7.1 performance measures

All the /3gig switch does for you is allow more memory to be available.
You would still need to make settings in Unidata to take advantage of
the additional memory.  Unless I'm getting the /3gig switch confused
with the SQL settings.

I'd also start with turning off hyper threading on the processors if
you're using that just to see if it helps.  Although I'm not sure if 7.1
has these kinds of problems or not.

Jeffrey Lettau
ERP Systems Manager
polkaudio


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Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 11:51 AM
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Subject: [U2] RE: UNIDATA 7.1 performance measures

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From: Smith, Robert
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 11:37 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: UNIDATA 7.1 performance measures



Good Morning,



 We are a UNIDATA shop and presently we are struggling with identifying
the best way to increase the performance level of our environment. We
presently are running UD on a Windows Enterprise server (SP2) with 16gig
of ram and 8 - 3gig processors. We have read through some MS Knowledge
Base articles that suggest a possible performance increase if we use the
/PAE and /3GB boot.ini switches. We were wondering whether anyone has
deployed these settings before and if there were any problems that
resulted...with either the OS or database.



 Does anyone have any suggestions regarding ways to increase UD
performance levels in a Win2k3 environment?



Thanks in advance,

Rob Smith

Philadelphia University
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