Re: [U2] Would anyone else like a change to *HS.UPDFINFO?

2013-05-01 Thread Brian Whitehorn
Gregor,

As a "workaround" you could perhaps setup an empty account, then set VOC 
entries to point to only the files that you're interested in, and run the 
HS.UPDATE.FILEINFO in the account and access via the HS'ed account ?

But I'd still add my +1 to your suggestion for HS.UPDATE.FILEINFO to be able to 
use a select list.

Regards,
Brian.

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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Gregor Scott
Sent: Thursday, 2 May 2013 10:34 AM
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Subject: Re: [U2] Would anyone else like a change to *HS.UPDFINFO?

That has not been our experience.

The actual workings of the program are not well explained in the UV doco. I did 
find in the UV11 UniOLEDB PDF an explanation of sorts:

* Scans the dictionaries of all nonsystem files named in the VOC, finding all 
associations and unassociated multivalued columns.
* Rewrites the file information cache (.hs_fileinfo) under the account's 
directory, based on the above dictionary information and on the contents of the 
HS_FILE_ACCESS file.

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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Schasny
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Subject: Re: [U2] Would anyone else like a change to *HS.UPDFINFO?

That would be a nice feature. I do believe that it only processes files with a 
* or *SELECT dictionary item however.


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Re: [U2] Would anyone else like a change to *HS.UPDFINFO?

2013-05-01 Thread Bill Haskett
It has always been my opinion that any TCL verb, function, or whatever 
should be able to process a select list if one is present.  All of the 
utilities I write have this capability, along with help.  :-)


Bill


- Original Message -
*From:* gregor.sc...@pentanasolutions.com
*To:* U2 Users List 
*Date:* 5/1/2013 5:34 PM
*Subject:* Re: [U2] Would anyone else like a change to *HS.UPDFINFO?

That has not been our experience.

The actual workings of the program are not well explained in the UV doco. I did 
find in the UV11 UniOLEDB PDF an explanation of sorts:

* Scans the dictionaries of all nonsystem files named in the VOC, finding all 
associations and unassociated multivalued columns.
* Rewrites the file information cache (.hs_fileinfo) under the account's 
directory, based on the above dictionary information and on the contents of the 
HS_FILE_ACCESS file.

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Sent: Thursday, 2 May 2013 1:57 AM
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Subject: Re: [U2] Would anyone else like a change to *HS.UPDFINFO?

That would be a nice feature. I do believe that it only processes files with a 
* or *SELECT dictionary item however.


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Re: [U2] Would anyone else like a change to *HS.UPDFINFO?

2013-05-01 Thread Gregor Scott
That has not been our experience.

The actual workings of the program are not well explained in the UV doco. I did 
find in the UV11 UniOLEDB PDF an explanation of sorts:

* Scans the dictionaries of all nonsystem files named in the VOC, finding all 
associations and unassociated multivalued columns.
* Rewrites the file information cache (.hs_fileinfo) under the account's 
directory, based on the above dictionary information and on the contents of the 
HS_FILE_ACCESS file.

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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Schasny
Sent: Thursday, 2 May 2013 1:57 AM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] Would anyone else like a change to *HS.UPDFINFO?

That would be a nice feature. I do believe that it only processes files with a 
* or *SELECT dictionary item however.


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Re: [U2] Would anyone else like a change to *HS.UPDFINFO?

2013-05-01 Thread Brian Whitehorn
+1

Dan, perhaps something along the lines of uservoice (www.uservoice.com) where 
"votes" and feedback can be collated might add additional value, this being a 
good example.

Regards,
Brian.

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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Gregor Scott
Sent: Wednesday, 1 May 2013 3:29 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: [U2] Would anyone else like a change to *HS.UPDFINFO?

I am trying to get Rocket to improve the behaviour of *HS.UPDFINFO to support 
active select lists so that only the files I want built into the ".hs_fileinfo" 
cache item (rather than have EVERY SINGLE F/Q-type item from the VOC included).

Support inform me that I seem to be the only person interested in such a 
change, so I thought I would at least ask the question of the U2 community.

Would anyone else find it useful to have the *HS.UPDFINFO command enhanced to 
support select lists, or have a new command created that deals with select 
lists?

Thanks

Gregor


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Re: [U2] Would anyone else like a change to *HS.UPDFINFO?

2013-05-01 Thread Allen Bell

I vote yes.

Drives me crazy how it works

AB
On 5/1/2013 10:56 AM, Jeff Schasny wrote:
That would be a nice feature. I do believe that it only processes 
files with a * or *SELECT dictionary item however.


Gregor Scott wrote:
I am trying to get Rocket to improve the behaviour of *HS.UPDFINFO to 
support active select lists so that only the files I want built into 
the ".hs_fileinfo" cache item (rather than have EVERY SINGLE F/Q-type 
item from the VOC included).


Support inform me that I seem to be the only person interested in 
such a change, so I thought I would at least ask the question of the 
U2 community.


Would anyone else find it useful to have the *HS.UPDFINFO command 
enhanced to support select lists, or have a new command created that 
deals with select lists?


Thanks

Gregor


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Re: [U2] db listings

2013-05-01 Thread Eric Neu
Hello Eric,

Thank you for contacting us. We are just generating the May update of
the ranking. It's too late to include it there, but we will definitely
have a look to include it is future updates.

best regards
Matthias

On 01.05.2013 18:56, Eric Neu wrote:
Greetings,
 
UniData and UniVerse (and the term "U2") refer to a multivalue DBMS from
Rocket Software. It would be nice to see how it ranks against the bigger
players.
 
Great site! Keep up the good work.






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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Symeon Breen
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 3:50 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] db listings

I have come across a few people recently who use this site to look at DB
popularity - should U2 (and other MV systems be on there)
http://db-engines.com/en/ranking/multivalue+dbms

 

 

 

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Re: [U2] B/ADD and Batch Strings

2013-05-01 Thread Peter S. Goldberger
Also, I am asking for some assistance. Comments like yours do nobody any 
good except maybe your ego.


Wjhonson wrote:

Aaa
Kill it!  Kill! Death die beastie

You Peter are the last person on earth to still have B/ADD used for something.
Please come into the 1970s !!

  

  

  


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To: U2 Users List 
Sent: Wed, May 1, 2013 9:08 am
Subject: [U2] B/ADD and Batch Strings


Does anyone have documentation on Batch Strings and/or the B/ADD
function used on older systems?
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Re: [U2] B/ADD and Batch Strings

2013-05-01 Thread Peter S. Goldberger
That's what I am trying to do, but need to know how the batch strings 
functioned so I can convert and eliminate. I inherited them, so I am not 
familiar with their layouts.



Wjhonson wrote:

Aaa
Kill it!  Kill! Death die beastie

You Peter are the last person on earth to still have B/ADD used for something.
Please come into the 1970s !!

  

  

  


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To: U2 Users List 
Sent: Wed, May 1, 2013 9:08 am
Subject: [U2] B/ADD and Batch Strings


Does anyone have documentation on Batch Strings and/or the B/ADD
function used on older systems?
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Re: [U2] B/ADD and Batch Strings

2013-05-01 Thread Wjhonson
Aaa
Kill it!  Kill! Death die beastie 

You Peter are the last person on earth to still have B/ADD used for something.
Please come into the 1970s !!

 

 

 

-Original Message-
From: Peter S. Goldberger 
To: U2 Users List 
Sent: Wed, May 1, 2013 9:08 am
Subject: [U2] B/ADD and Batch Strings


Does anyone have documentation on Batch Strings and/or the B/ADD 
function used on older systems?
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[U2] B/ADD and Batch Strings

2013-05-01 Thread Peter S. Goldberger
Does anyone have documentation on Batch Strings and/or the B/ADD 
function used on older systems?

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Re: [U2] Would anyone else like a change to *HS.UPDFINFO?

2013-05-01 Thread Jeff Schasny
That would be a nice feature. I do believe that it only processes files 
with a * or *SELECT dictionary item however.


Gregor Scott wrote:

I am trying to get Rocket to improve the behaviour of *HS.UPDFINFO to support active 
select lists so that only the files I want built into the ".hs_fileinfo" cache 
item (rather than have EVERY SINGLE F/Q-type item from the VOC included).

Support inform me that I seem to be the only person interested in such a 
change, so I thought I would at least ask the question of the U2 community.

Would anyone else find it useful to have the *HS.UPDFINFO command enhanced to 
support select lists, or have a new command created that deals with select 
lists?

Thanks

Gregor


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[U2] db listings

2013-05-01 Thread Symeon Breen
I have come across a few people recently who use this site to look at DB
popularity - should U2 (and other MV systems be on there)
http://db-engines.com/en/ranking/multivalue+dbms

 

 

 

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