Re: [U2] My company is complaining about the U2 emails

2004-05-15 Thread Ray Wurlod
The problem with your suggestion, Dave, is that there is no universally agreed 
standard about what constitutes acceptable language.  Given that Andra's company is in 
Texas, which is notorious for conservative thinking, I believe that phraseology that 
is both commonplace and inoffensive where I am (Australia) would be targeted by their 
email filter software.  After all, it's them that construct the list of hit words 
and phrases!
There has to be a compromise somewhere!  (I almost used b***dy h*ll, but figured that 
might offend the sensitive hearts of Andra's colleagues.)  IMHO, of course.

- Original Message -
From: Dave Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 18:15:47 -0700
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [U2] My company is complaining about the U2 emails

 How about cleaning up our mouths.
 
 Give the offending user 1 warning and remove him/her from the list on the
 2nd offense.
 
 Anyone who can not express his/her thoughts without the use of foul language
 needs to expand his/her vocabulary to be offered the privilege to
 participate with the finest group of professionals in the multivalue
 community.
 
 We can not afford to lose our best people because of the thoughtlessness of
 a few.
 
 Have a nice weekend,
 
 Dave
 
 Dave Taylor
 Sysmark Information Systems, Inc.
 49 Aspen Way
 Rolling Hills Estates, CA 90274
 800-SYSMARK (800-797-6275)
 (O) 310-544-1974
 (P) 800-339-1497
 (F) 310-377-3550
 www.sysmarkinfo.com
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Tony Gravagno [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 4:58 PM
 Subject: RE: [U2] My company is complaining about the U2 emails
 
 
  Miscellaneous suggestions that can be taken one at a time or combined:
  - Have the mail sent to some non-filtered e-mail server like hotmail and
  then have people poll that server from their normal e-mail client or a
  different one.
  - Get the digest version, zip it, then manually distribute to employees
  periodically.
  - Automate that process as a programming exercise.
  - Pay someone to write up that functionality and send digests.
  - Have someone post digests to an FTP site.
  - Write code to pre-filter mail for bad words then resend it to your U2
  developers.
  - Read mail through a web interface.
  - Educate the company IT staff on how to properly filter mail with
  combinations of keyword black lists and e-mail address white lists.
  - Get new mail filter software.
  - Get a new IT staff.
 
  HTH,
  Tony
 
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-u2-
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andra Lozzi
   Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 4:14 PM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: [U2] My company is complaining about the U2 emails
  
   I just thought I would let you know that our UniVerse Programing Team
   has been asked to quit receiving emails from this list because our
   company's email filter catches a lot of the emails for curse words.
   Grant it, some of them are relatively minor curse words but I have no
   control over what they filter. Nor, do I have control of their choice of
   filtering programs.
  
   One of our operators reviews the quarantined emails and forwards those
   that are work related.  This puts a real workload on them when a
   cursing email receives a number of responses.  We have 10 UniVerse
   programmers in our company so it can generate a lot of emails to review.
  
   I do not want to have to remove myself, or my programmers, from the list
   so I thought I would let everyone know how this is affecting the people
   at my company.
  
   Thanks for listening,
  
   Andra Lozzi
   UniVerse Programming Manager
   Software Quality Assurance Manager
   Mouser Electronics
   1000 N Main St
   Mansfield, TX 76063
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RE: [U2] My company is complaining about the U2 emails

2004-05-15 Thread Stevenson, Charles
I'll weigh in with Dan  Dave.
the language is rich.  We should be able to express ourselves without
using obviously offensive words.

 - Chuck chuck-bo-buck Banana-fana-fo-Charlie Stevenson
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RE: [U2] UniOleDB With Crystal Reports

2004-05-15 Thread Nick Southwell
According to the support case I opened it's a known bug, but with
no timescales for a fix. Hoping to move to Unidata 6 to see if
the problem is resolved. Also rewriting chunks of the code
with Raining Data's PDP product which appears to be faster
and more importantly concurrent. I realise SQL is not
a core feature of Unidata/Universe but it offers a lot
of possibilities to those of us who want systems to talk to each
other without having to skill up on UCI and C.

Oh well.

Nick
 

-Original Message-
From: Bryan Haglund [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 14 May 2004 17:01
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [U2] UniOleDB With Crystal Reports

Well, that would certainly tend to slow things down.  I wonder why they
would have set it to operate like that?

Bryan

- Original Message -
From: Nick Southwell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 2:47 AM
Subject: RE: [U2] UniOleDB With Crystal Reports


 Worth mentioning that we have implemented
 an OLEDB solution, driver version 1.4.3
 against Unidata 5.2 and have discovered that the driver is not
 capable of concurrent execution, more specifically it's the
 unirpc service which serialises all requests.

 Cheers

 Nick

 -Original Message-
 From: Bryan Haglund [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 13 May 2004 18:07
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [U2] UniOleDB With Crystal Reports

 Eric,

 The first thing you need to do is to add your specific OLE connection
 using the UCI Config Editor.  The minimum requirements are:
 DBMSTYPEUNIVERSE
 NETWORKTCP/IP
 SERVICEservice name (uvserver)
 HOST  ip address used.

 Note that for the host, there are certain configurations that will not
 work with 'localhost' or '127.0.0.1' - as such, it is best to specify
 the specific host, such as 'uvserver.foo.com' or '172.55.122.3'

 Next, in Crystal Reports, you need to expand the 'More Data Sources'
 from the Data Explorer dialog box, then expand the 'Active Data', then
 expand the 'Active Data (ADO)'.  If nothing is set up, you are then
 prompted to select a data source.  The default is 'ODBC (ADO)' -
change
 this by clicking on the radio button for 'ADO and OLE DB'.  The
 connection string box is then no longer grayed out.  Click on the
 'Build' button to have the specific string built for you.

 Under the 'Provider' tab, select the 'UniOLEDB Provider' and click
 'Next'
 For the 'Data Source', enter the name of the OLE connection you saved
in
 the UCI Config Editor.
 Specify a user name and password, and click on the 'Test Connection'
 button.
 The test should come back ok.  You can then use this to access the
data.

 On the downside, some systems have a performance issue with OLE DB
where
 ODBC works faster, but ODBC has an upper limit of around 160K-170K
 records on some systems.  I have not been able to find much in the way
 of documentation from IBM that addresses how to tune the performance
of
 OLE DB.

 Hope this helps!

 Bryan Haglund
 Haglund Consulting Inc.

 - Original Message -
 From: Eric Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 8:46 AM
 Subject: [U2] UniOleDB With Crystal Reports


  All,
 
  Has anyone had any luck connecting Crystal Reports to a U2 database
  using OleDB? I'm trying it here and keep getting the message 'cannot
  connect to non U2 databases' (I have UniVerse and SQL Server
installed
  but I'm using the UniOleDB Provider) - ODBC connectivity works fine
 but
  I want to use OleDB.
 
  Any help or thoughts as always, greatly appreciated.
 
  Regards
 
  Eric
 
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RE: [U2] Signature Capturing

2004-05-15 Thread Ross Ferris
Converting captured signature to JPG is relatively simple - even storing the data in 
UV isn't to big an ask (simple to store all hex, but doubles storage ... smarter to 
escape char(255's), but a bit mo0re work.

Not sure how you would shove this out to cross/PDF, but I'm sure they will help you 
when the time comes . sounds like all you have to do is decide which device you 
will use for capture  sounds like you are in PDA land - I'd recommend a device 
Windows CE 2003, but that is only so I could leverage aspects of our Visage product - 
YMMV

Good luck ! Will be an interesting technology mix !

Ross Ferris
Stamina Software
Visage  an Evolution in Software Development


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-u2-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony Dzikiewicz
Sent: Saturday, 15 May 2004 2:35 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [U2] Signature Capturing

Thanks for the replies on signature capturing.  I have some things to think
about.  We wont be headed down that road until toward the end of the year.
However, its nice to get a heads up.  If at all possible we will try to
hook
in a wedge to the keyboard of the dumb terminal.  We are not doing client
server here.  The data must be stored in Universe, even if it is a type 1
file.  Displaying on a screen is probably not important.  However, we are
using the Cross PDF package and it would be nice if the signature could
become a jpg so that we could pass it on to a pdf invoice.
Thanks Again
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RE: [U2] My company is complaining about the U2 emails

2004-05-15 Thread Bill H.
Ray:

I'm stunned, reading such a comment.  :-)

Bill

 -Original Message-
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ray Wurlod
 Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 11:16 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [U2] My company is complaining about the U2 emails

[snipped]

 ...Given that Andra's company is in Texas, which is 
 notorious for conservative thinking, ...
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Re: [U2] My company is complaining about the U2 emails

2004-05-15 Thread CWNoah2
Andra,

I confess I've been guilty of throwing in a minor curse word from time to 
time - definitely not the way my Mama (GRHS) raised me.  ;^) I am a fairly 
intelligent, reasonable educated and well-read person, and certainly should be able 
to communicate without them. I will do my best to do so in this forum.

Actually, the real reason I responded was to say that I've done business 
(although not a lot) with Mouser over the years, and never realized it was an MV 
site. It's always cool to learn that companies you've heard of for years are in 
the fold.

It's a small world after all...

Regards,
Charlie Noah

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I just thought I would let you know that our UniVerse Programing Team
has been asked to quit receiving emails from this list because our
company's email filter catches a lot of the emails for curse words.
Grant it, some of them are relatively minor curse words but I have no
control over what they filter. Nor, do I have control of their choice of
filtering programs.   [snip]
Andra Lozzi
UniVerse Programming Manager
Software Quality Assurance Manager
Mouser Electronics
1000 N Main St
Mansfield, TX 76063
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Re: [U2] My company is complaining about the U2 emails

2004-05-15 Thread Results
All,
For the most part, we have kept it fairly civil on this list. 
Andra's point is will taken, though. Perhaps we should put up a 
swear-jar? I'll bet we can cobble together a micro-pay system using 
either U2 database.

- Charles Barouch, Moderator
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our company's email filter catches a lot of the emails for curse words.
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RE: [U2] My company is complaining about the U2 emails

2004-05-15 Thread John Varney
A tad draconian, don't you think?  I say you just ask people not to use
whatever Offensive words that are being filtered.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave Taylor
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 9:16 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [U2] My company is complaining about the U2 emails


How about cleaning up our mouths.

Give the offending user 1 warning and remove him/her from the list on the
2nd offense.

Anyone who can not express his/her thoughts without the use of foul language
needs to expand his/her vocabulary to be offered the privilege to
participate with the finest group of professionals in the multivalue
community.

We can not afford to lose our best people because of the thoughtlessness of
a few.

Have a nice weekend,

Dave

Dave Taylor
Sysmark Information Systems, Inc.
49 Aspen Way
Rolling Hills Estates, CA 90274
800-SYSMARK (800-797-6275)
(O) 310-544-1974
(P) 800-339-1497
(F) 310-377-3550
www.sysmarkinfo.com

- Original Message -
From: Tony Gravagno [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 4:58 PM
Subject: RE: [U2] My company is complaining about the U2 emails


 Miscellaneous suggestions that can be taken one at a time or combined:
 - Have the mail sent to some non-filtered e-mail server like hotmail and
 then have people poll that server from their normal e-mail client or a
 different one.
 - Get the digest version, zip it, then manually distribute to employees
 periodically.
 - Automate that process as a programming exercise.
 - Pay someone to write up that functionality and send digests.
 - Have someone post digests to an FTP site.
 - Write code to pre-filter mail for bad words then resend it to your U2
 developers.
 - Read mail through a web interface.
 - Educate the company IT staff on how to properly filter mail with
 combinations of keyword black lists and e-mail address white lists.
 - Get new mail filter software.
 - Get a new IT staff.

 HTH,
 Tony

  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-u2-
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andra Lozzi
  Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 4:14 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [U2] My company is complaining about the U2 emails
 
  I just thought I would let you know that our UniVerse Programing Team
  has been asked to quit receiving emails from this list because our
  company's email filter catches a lot of the emails for curse words.
  Grant it, some of them are relatively minor curse words but I have no
  control over what they filter. Nor, do I have control of their choice of
  filtering programs.
 
  One of our operators reviews the quarantined emails and forwards those
  that are work related.  This puts a real workload on them when a
  cursing email receives a number of responses.  We have 10 UniVerse
  programmers in our company so it can generate a lot of emails to review.
 
  I do not want to have to remove myself, or my programmers, from the list
  so I thought I would let everyone know how this is affecting the people
  at my company.
 
  Thanks for listening,
 
  Andra Lozzi
  UniVerse Programming Manager
  Software Quality Assurance Manager
  Mouser Electronics
  1000 N Main St
  Mansfield, TX 76063
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Re: [U2] My company is complaining about the U2 emails

2004-05-15 Thread vance . alspach
Wow.  Wonder what I have been missing.  Apparently our filter/appliance
works pretty well, I have never seen any 'curse' words.  However bloody
hell did make it through.

By the way, did anybody ever figure out how to change the ECL/TCL prompt
character in Unidata?

Vance
J  L Industrial Supply
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