Re: [U2] Web services

2009-06-09 Thread Tony G
I just went over the U2 Web Service Developer documentation
carefully.  This is really just a GUI wrapped around an
HttpListener, forwarding requests to a completely non-SOAPish
BASIC program.  (Just like my web service video.)  It's not a
developer tool, it's a deployment tool.  I thought they were
connecting directly into U2 and wrapping data in a SOAP envelope
there.

So the problem really has nothing to do with U2 Web Services, but
how do we stop anyone from accessing a privileged port on a
public web server?.

David, sorry if I missed comments on this before: if your web
service is facing out to the internet then why can't you open a
firewall port for authorized IP addresses?

If firewall management isn't practical, I'd think that it would
be pretty easy to use a software-based proxy that accepts
connections on a socket and then forwards them to the the U2
service.  You can then filter IP addresses here so that
unauthorized clients never actually hit the DBMS, which I believe
is your goal. 

If you can't find something you like (though there are any number
of free/commercial offerings out there), you could write your own
HttpListener, authenticate requests based on a modified
querystring which you provide to your clients (you can use LDAP,
IP address, or use the encryption method I described on 4-june).
When you're satisfied that the client is OK, forward the request
to a different local connection - the web service created with
the IBM product.

You're probably using U2 Web Services so that you don't need to
write code.  Well, it doesn't look like security is built into
the software (except for SSL) so unless IBM comes up with an
enhancement soon this becomes a DIY project.  You can find lots
of info if you search for proxy web service.  Here is one
article that I believe describes your scenario - and for the I
hate Microsoft crowd I selected something written by Java
developers. ;)
http://www.developer.com/java/web/article.php/3320851

Since you're a .NET developer, I'm really surprised that you see
any value in this product.  There are tools in our industry for
BASIC programmers who don't know and don't want to know about
other technologies.  I think they provide a valuable service and
it seems the U2 offerings fits this category.  But when you know
what goes under the hood and it only takes a couple minutes to do
this stuff on your own, why bother with something else?  The U2
Web Developer simply shifts complexities: rather than learning
how to do something on your own, you're learning how they want
you to do it.  How much value is there to a side-ways shift in
responsibility?

If anyone else here finds limitations in the U2 Web Service
Developer product, let me know - I'm sure I can write a
replacement relatively quickly.  :)

Tony Gravagno
Nebula Research and Development
TG@ remove.pleaseNebula-RnD.com
Author of web services articles for the MV market before anyone
in this market was even interested in web services...
nospamNebula-RnD.com/articles/

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[U2] UniVerse Admin Tool for Window

2009-06-09 Thread John J. Wahl
Hello everyone,

I'm having an issue with a recent install of UniVerse 10.2 on Windows.  
The Admin Tool the system had in the past was on NT 4.0, and worked great but 
was very slow.  The new install is on Windows 2008 Server, and the Admin tool 
is now the IBM version, it loads, it authenticate but displays zero users 
connected, so I cannot use that tool to administer the server.  The tool old 
version of the tool gave you a gui display of what is basically LISTU, and a 
way to right click and disconnect user sessions that had issues, List.Locks, 
etc.  All the uv commands via Telnet/Dynamic Connect work fine, in fact I'm 
loving UniVerse (don't let Microsoft hear that *crosses fingers*).
 
Anyway, I had a work around for a while, where one of my workstations 
had the Old Ardent/Informix version running (vmuvadm.exe) and that actually 
queried the new server correctly and displayed all my users, locks etc.  The 
new Java version is not working at all, it's just blank.  Everything else on 
the Server seems to work and has been for about 6 months.

Does anyone have any ideas, or have you run into something Similar? 

Thank you for your time,
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John J. Wahl
Programmer / Analyst
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Re: [U2] UniVerse Admin Tool for Window

2009-06-09 Thread Mike Dallaire
John,
I don't know if this will help, but we had a similar issue with ODBC client
on a Win 2008 server and it was because we were trying to use the 32 bit
version on a 64 bit server.  The install apparently installs both versions
for ODBC, so we just had to point the menu item to the 64 bit version.
It might be worth checking with IBM if this possibility exists with
UniAdmin.
HTH,
Mike

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Subject: [U2] UniVerse Admin Tool for Window

Hello everyone,

I'm having an issue with a recent install of UniVerse 10.2 on
Windows.  The Admin Tool the system had in the past was on NT 4.0, and
worked great but was very slow.  The new install is on Windows 2008 Server,
and the Admin tool is now the IBM version, it loads, it authenticate but
displays zero users connected, so I cannot use that tool to administer the
server.  The tool old version of the tool gave you a gui display of what is
basically LISTU, and a way to right click and disconnect user sessions that
had issues, List.Locks, etc.  All the uv commands via Telnet/Dynamic Connect
work fine, in fact I'm loving UniVerse (don't let Microsoft hear that
*crosses fingers*).
 
Anyway, I had a work around for a while, where one of my
workstations had the Old Ardent/Informix version running (vmuvadm.exe) and
that actually queried the new server correctly and displayed all my users,
locks etc.  The new Java version is not working at all, it's just blank.
Everything else on the Server seems to work and has been for about 6 months.

Does anyone have any ideas, or have you run into something Similar? 

Thank you for your time,
-
John J. Wahl
Programmer / Analyst
Tel:   (330) 528-0091 Ext. 118
Web:  http://www.Joseph.com/


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Re: [U2] UniVerse Admin Tool for Window

2009-06-09 Thread John J. Wahl
I thought the same thing for a long time, but everything else works, 
everything in that tool, Accounts, Backup, Config Editor, Data Sources... etc.  
The only two things that do not seem to get good data from (I'm assuming the uv 
RPC?) is the Users and Locks modules of the tool.  My tool's version is 
UniAdmin 1.3.6, and I haven't seen it mentioned as NOT working on 2008 in any 
tools, or any bug reports, that's why I was hoping the User Group might know.  
On top of this, we had calls in before we decided to do the install from our 
IBM rep and he was told to go ahead and do it, it should all work.  So far it 
all has, and I've been more than happy, for a 99% Microsoft guy this makes me 
shut my mouth ;)  So far it's been a dream to run, so it's more just an 
annoyance then a real bug in my book to not have that GUI version of the Admin 
tool running.  Was just hoping one of the list gurus had perhaps seen this 
issue come up before ;)

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From: IT-Laure Hansen [mailto:lhan...@redwoodcity.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 17:13
To: John J. Wahl
Subject: RE: UniVerse Admin Tool for Window

Hi John,

Is UV 10.2 certified for Windows 2008 server? I know it is for Windows 2003 
(and the admin tool works on that version), but that is a slightly different 
technology. We have not gone the Win2008 route here yet so I can't help you, 
but am wondering whether that might be your problem.

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Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 2:08 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] UniVerse Admin Tool for Window

Hello everyone,

I'm having an issue with a recent install of UniVerse 10.2 on Windows.  
The Admin Tool the system had in the past was on NT 4.0, and worked great but 
was very slow.  The new install is on Windows 2008 Server, and the Admin tool 
is now the IBM version, it loads, it authenticate but displays zero users 
connected, so I cannot use that tool to administer the server.  The tool old 
version of the tool gave you a gui display of what is basically LISTU, and a 
way to right click and disconnect user sessions that had issues, List.Locks, 
etc.  All the uv commands via Telnet/Dynamic Connect work fine, in fact I'm 
loving UniVerse (don't let Microsoft hear that *crosses fingers*).
 
Anyway, I had a work around for a while, where one of my workstations 
had the Old Ardent/Informix version running (vmuvadm.exe) and that actually 
queried the new server correctly and displayed all my users, locks etc.  The 
new Java version is not working at all, it's just blank.  Everything else on 
the Server seems to work and has been for about 6 months.

Does anyone have any ideas, or have you run into something Similar? 

Thank you for your time,
-
John J. Wahl
Programmer / Analyst
Tel:   (330) 528-0091 Ext. 118
Web:  http://www.Joseph.com/


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