Re: [U2] PCHealth errors from UO.NET
Are you using pooling ? I have had problems because pooling uses performancecounters and these can get corrupted in the registry and have to be reset, the process also needs permissions to access that part of the registry Also there is a configuration you can do to enable logging within uniobjects system.diagnostics switches !-- Set value property of Arithmetic switch to one of the following: 1(error), 2(warning), 3(info), 4(verbose) -- add name='UniTraceSwitch value=1 / /switches trace autoflush=true indentsize=4 listeners add name=myListener type=System.Diagnostics.TextWriterTraceListener initializeData=c:\temp\myListener.log / /listeners /trace /system.diagnostics Or dare i suggest .Net Reflector ;) Rgds Symeon. From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Tony Gravagno Sent: 16 February 2011 23:02 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] PCHealth errors from UO.NET Prelude On a Windows system, look under the docs and settings path: \Local Settings\Application Data\PCHealth\ErrorRep\QSignoff You may find pairs of .txt and .cab files. These are created when a program aborts, the .txt file provides some information about the process and the .cab (or zip) files get sent to Microsoft for analysis. The logs are only generated if reporting is enabled on your system: Right click on My Computer and open Properties. Go to the Advanced tab and click the Error Reporting button. Select Enable error reporting. To the issue... I have a client that once in a while gets dumps indicating that UO.NET has thrown an unhandled System.Exception. In the .txt file, there is not enough information to diagnose what it was doing at the time. The application using uodotnet.dll v2.1.1.7211 has try/catch handling around every related operation. Nonetheless the exception is being thrown within UO.NET itself and creating these dumps. As a general question: For anyone who has PCHealth turned on, do you have any UO.NET-related dumps for PCHealth? For Rocket people, is there a debug-enabled version of build 7211 (or later) which we can use to find out what's happening in there so that this can be fixed? Thanks! Tony Gravagno Nebula Research and Development TG@ remove.pleaseNebula-RnD.com Nebula RD sells mv.NET and other Pick/MultiValue products worldwide, and provides related development services remove.pleaseNebula-RnD.com/blog Visit PickWiki.com! Contribute! http://Twitter.com/TonyGravagno ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3447 - Release Date: 02/16/11 ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
[U2] [UV] UniVerse Uptime
Does anyone have a good method for determining how long UniVerse has been running? Thanks. Perry Taylor Zirmed, Inc. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. ZirMed, Inc. has strict policies regarding the content of e-mail communications, specifically Protected Health Information, any communications containing such material will be returned to the originating party with such advisement noted. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [UV] UniVerse Uptime
Interesting question... Don't know how accurate it would be but on my box /usr/uv/VOC has a timestamp of the last time I brought uv up. I'll be interested to see what others have to say on this. Rob Robert F. Porter, MCSE, CCNA, ZCE, OCP-Java6 Lead Sr. Programmer / Analyst Laboratory Information Services Ochsner Health System This transmission (including any attachments) may contain confidential information, privileged material (including material protected by the solicitor-client or other applicable privileges), or constitute non-public information. Any use of this information by anyone other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please immediately reply to the sender and delete this information from your system. Use, dissemination, distribution, or reproduction of this transmission by unintended recipients is not authorized and may be unlawful. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [UV] UniVerse Uptime
For us, it would be the same amount of time the system has been running in unix, a simple ls will give you up time. Generally, we only shutdown the DB when we reboot the server. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users- boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Perry Taylor Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 9:10 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] [UV] UniVerse Uptime Does anyone have a good method for determining how long UniVerse has been running? Thanks. Perry Taylor Zirmed, Inc. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. ZirMed, Inc. has strict policies regarding the content of e-mail communications, specifically Protected Health Information, any communications containing such material will be returned to the originating party with such advisement noted. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [UV] UniVerse Uptime
'who -b' will tell you the date and time AIX restarted last. For us, if AIX is up, Unidata is up ... Sincerely, David Laansma IT Manager Hubbard Supply Co. Direct: 810-342-7143 Office: 810-234-8681 Fax: 810-234-6142 www.hubbardsupply.com Delivering Products, Services and Innovative Solutions -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Robert Porter Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 9:26 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] [UV] UniVerse Uptime Interesting question... Don't know how accurate it would be but on my box /usr/uv/VOC has a timestamp of the last time I brought uv up. I'll be interested to see what others have to say on this. Rob Robert F. Porter, MCSE, CCNA, ZCE, OCP-Java6 Lead Sr. Programmer / Analyst Laboratory Information Services Ochsner Health System This transmission (including any attachments) may contain confidential information, privileged material (including material protected by the solicitor-client or other applicable privileges), or constitute non-public information. Any use of this information by anyone other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please immediately reply to the sender and delete this information from your system. Use, dissemination, distribution, or reproduction of this transmission by unintended recipients is not authorized and may be unlawful. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [UV] UniVerse Uptime
BTW, for us that was Nov 27 9:48am ... gotta love AIX! Sincerely, David Laansma IT Manager Hubbard Supply Co. Direct: 810-342-7143 Office: 810-234-8681 Fax: 810-234-6142 www.hubbardsupply.com Delivering Products, Services and Innovative Solutions -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Dave Laansma Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 9:33 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] [UV] UniVerse Uptime 'who -b' will tell you the date and time AIX restarted last. For us, if AIX is up, Unidata is up ... Sincerely, David Laansma IT Manager Hubbard Supply Co. Direct: 810-342-7143 Office: 810-234-8681 Fax: 810-234-6142 www.hubbardsupply.com Delivering Products, Services and Innovative Solutions -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Robert Porter Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 9:26 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] [UV] UniVerse Uptime Interesting question... Don't know how accurate it would be but on my box /usr/uv/VOC has a timestamp of the last time I brought uv up. I'll be interested to see what others have to say on this. Rob Robert F. Porter, MCSE, CCNA, ZCE, OCP-Java6 Lead Sr. Programmer / Analyst Laboratory Information Services Ochsner Health System This transmission (including any attachments) may contain confidential information, privileged material (including material protected by the solicitor-client or other applicable privileges), or constitute non-public information. Any use of this information by anyone other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please immediately reply to the sender and delete this information from your system. Use, dissemination, distribution, or reproduction of this transmission by unintended recipients is not authorized and may be unlawful. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [UV] UniVerse Uptime
Use uptime on Linux/AIX - our AIX box running UniVerse uptime is 398 days i.e up since installation/commissioning of new blade server - our Linux UniVerse server uptime is 270 days - also since installation of RedHat image in same IBM Blade server. Rgds Ian Stuart On 2/17/2011 4:35 PM, Dave Laansma wrote: BTW, for us that was Nov 27 9:48am ... gotta love AIX! Sincerely, David Laansma IT Manager Hubbard Supply Co. Direct: 810-342-7143 Office: 810-234-8681 Fax: 810-234-6142 www.hubbardsupply.com Delivering Products, Services and Innovative Solutions -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Dave Laansma Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 9:33 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] [UV] UniVerse Uptime 'who -b' will tell you the date and time AIX restarted last. For us, if AIX is up, Unidata is up ... Sincerely, David Laansma IT Manager Hubbard Supply Co. Direct: 810-342-7143 Office: 810-234-8681 Fax: 810-234-6142 www.hubbardsupply.com Delivering Products, Services and Innovative Solutions -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Robert Porter Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 9:26 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] [UV] UniVerse Uptime Interesting question... Don't know how accurate it would be but on my box /usr/uv/VOC has a timestamp of the last time I brought uv up. I'll be interested to see what others have to say on this. Rob Robert F. Porter, MCSE, CCNA, ZCE, OCP-Java6 Lead Sr. Programmer / Analyst Laboratory Information Services Ochsner Health System This transmission (including any attachments) may contain confidential information, privileged material (including material protected by the solicitor-client or other applicable privileges), or constitute non-public information. Any use of this information by anyone other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please immediately reply to the sender and delete this information from your system. Use, dissemination, distribution, or reproduction of this transmission by unintended recipients is not authorized and may be unlawful. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- /*Ian Stuart*/ /*IT */ /*County Fair Foods, A division of Astral Operations Ltd*/ Tel: +27 21 505 8011 Fax: +27 21 505 8100 Web: (www.astralfoods.com http://www.astralfoods.com/) This e-mail is subject to an e-mail disclaimer. To read the email disclaimer notice go to: http://www.astralfoods.com/EmailDisclaimer.htm Alternatively please contact +27 12 990 8260 ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] PCHealth errors from UO.NET
Still hoping UO.NET user/developers will check to see if they are logging to see if anyone else has these UO.NET logs. The site has a connection pooling license but pooling isn't activated in this application. Good recommendation on system.diagnostics/switches. I'll see if we can try it. Tweaks to web.config in a live site are avoided at all cost, and the possible performance hit of using tracing could also be an issue, but we gotta do what we gotta do. ..NET Reflector won't help in this case. The error doesn't seem to occur frequently. As a poster child for the Clear Message Initiative, the text file doesn't provide any indication of the method or line (source/IL) in UO.NET where failure occurred, nor of the method in the client code which invoked UO.NET functionality. Thanks for nothing, Microsoft. But sincere thanks to you, Symeon! :) T From: Symeon Breen Are you using pooling ? I have had problems because pooling uses performancecounters and these can get corrupted in the registry and have to be reset, the process also needs permissions to access that part of the registry Also there is a configuration you can do to enable logging within uniobjects system.diagnostics switches [snip] Or dare i suggest .Net Reflector ;) ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
[U2] Friendfeed and U2 EDA similarities
Found an small interesting article about how the web site friendfeed store their data within MySQL rather than using a non-sql database. The method is very, very similar to the U2 EDA. If anyone is interested in this EDA technique - http://bret.appspot.com/entry/how-friendfeed-uses-mysql or my article - http://mvdbs.com/2011/02/17/friendfeed-and-eda/ Cheers, djm - Learn and Do Excel and Share http://mvdbs.com http://mvdbs.com -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Friendfeed-and-U2-EDA-similarities-tp30953121p30953121.html Sent from the U2 - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
[U2] UV on Linux question...
I noticed an issue with the '/usr/uv/bin/uv -admin -stop' command This is with version UV 10.0.0.2 (IBM issue) in the shutdown script (/etc/rc2.d/S999uv.rc for instance) there are mentions of 'cut -c0-5' Which works fine with RedHat Enterprise but gives an error with Fedora 14 (and 13) - seems that cut command wants it's numbers to start with 1 NOT 0 In playing, it seems that cut -c0-5 and cut -c1-5 seem to give the same results. I can always change the script...but I'm hoping that's the only reference to cut in the UV kingdom... Sowhat does your shutdown script say and what Linux are you running? George Gallen Senior Programmer/Analyst Accounting/Data Division, EDI Administrator ggal...@wyanokegroup.com ph:856.848.9005 Ext 220 The Wyanoke Group http://www.wyanokegroup.com ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [UV] UODOTNET.DLL and 64bit windows.
Hello, I wanted to know if anyone here uses the Uodotnet.dll with 64bit versions of Windows. Particularly windows 2003. If so, which version of the uodotnet.dll do you use ? I am getting an Uodotnet error 81011 saying that the host is unknown. I am able do open a telnet session to the host and I specified the host with the ip address. I am getting ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] UV on Linux question...
It seems that RHEL uses cut ver 5.97, and Fedora uses cut 8.5 -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users- boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of George Gallen Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 4:22 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] UV on Linux question... I noticed an issue with the '/usr/uv/bin/uv -admin -stop' command This is with version UV 10.0.0.2 (IBM issue) in the shutdown script (/etc/rc2.d/S999uv.rc for instance) there are mentions of 'cut -c0-5' Which works fine with RedHat Enterprise but gives an error with Fedora 14 (and 13) - seems that cut command wants it's numbers to start with 1 NOT 0 In playing, it seems that cut -c0-5 and cut -c1-5 seem to give the same results. I can always change the script...but I'm hoping that's the only reference to cut in the UV kingdom... Sowhat does your shutdown script say and what Linux are you running? George Gallen Senior Programmer/Analyst Accounting/Data Division, EDI Administrator ggal...@wyanokegroup.com ph:856.848.9005 Ext 220 The Wyanoke Group http://www.wyanokegroup.com ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [UV] UniVerse Uptime
We stop and start the Universe database and do a UNIX backup, so either ps -e -o etime -o comm | grep uvdlockd Or ps -e -o etime -o comm | grep unirpcd Seem to be reasonable ways of seeing how long it's been up Regards, Keith ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [UV] UniVerse Uptime
On Unix, there is an uptime command.that will tell you how long the server has been running. If you don't always restart Universe when the server reboots, you can modify the uv.rc script: /u1/uv/bin/sample/uv.rc This script is executed when Universe starts. You could execute the Unix date command and save the output somewhere. This would give you the date and time that Universe started. - Original Message From: Perry Taylor perry.tay...@zirmed.com To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Thu, February 17, 2011 9:10:27 AM Subject: [U2] [UV] UniVerse Uptime Does anyone have a good method for determining how long UniVerse has been running? Thanks. Perry Taylor Zirmed, Inc. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. ZirMed, Inc. has strict policies regarding the content of e-mail communications, specifically Protected Health Information, any communications containing such material will be returned to the originating party with such advisement noted. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
[U2] Frustrated with Rocket / Unidata 7.2
About a week ago I upgraded Unidata 7.1 on Windows XP/32 to Unidata 7.2 on Windows 7/64. Everything I need in Unidata seems to work fine on this release with one notable exception: Unidata 7.2 on Windows will no longer properly execute the Windows ftp program. Rocket support has basically said that in this version they changed the telnet server so that it can only run fully stdin/stdout compliant programs in the shell. Because the Windows ftp program isn't exactly stdin/stdout compliant, it is no longer a functional PCPERFORM program. Even if the ftp program is scripted to connect, transfer, and exit with no additional inputs or outputs, the ftp program will still fail. Of course, in this case if there's a put in the commands it'll fail after writing a zero byte file, potentially overwriting something. I could be frustrated with Microsoft because, after all, it's their program that's failing, I'm more frustrated with Rocket. While it's frustrating to have a past ability removed it's more frustrating to have received absolutely zero warning from Rocket that this could happen. I've searched the docs for 7.2... can't find a word about this change. (Hey, and I could be missing something; that's certainly a possibility.) It's fortunate that this install isn't a big production system, but what if it was? There are several production systems running Unidata on Windows, so if any of y'all are using ftp or any OS commands that may not meet Rocket's muster, please be aware of this change in 7.2. BTW, for me the fix was to use WinSCP (in command line mode) instead of Microsoft's FTP program. So far it seems to work just fine though the scripting is a bit different from Microsoft's ftp client. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Frustrated with Rocket / Unidata 7.2
Kevin just create a script and execute it. This is fairly simple and you can capture the output from the _PH_ file. We have a public warehouse application that uses EDI to talk with lots of different customers. This process is their life blood and works like a champ from 6.0 to 7.2.7 of Unidata. ITEM = 'open ftp1.com' ITEM-1 = 'user dave...@u2logic.com' ITEM-1 = 'daverch' ITEM-1 = 'bin' ITEM-1 = 'cd inbox' ITEM-1 = 'lcd c:\IBM\ud72\WH.DATA\WH.EDI' ITEM-1 = 'put ':EDI.ID ITEM-1 = 'quit' WRITE ITEM ON HOLD,'ftp_send.txt' TEMP = 'c:\IBM\ud72\XLr8\_HOLD_\' LINE = !ftp -n -d -s:\:TEMP:\ftp_send.txt\ EXECUTE 'PHANTOM ':LINE CAPTURING OUTPUT Regards, Doug www.u2logic.com A plethora of SMB applications all 100% Web based -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Kevin King Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 5:48 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] Frustrated with Rocket / Unidata 7.2 About a week ago I upgraded Unidata 7.1 on Windows XP/32 to Unidata 7.2 on Windows 7/64. Everything I need in Unidata seems to work fine on this release with one notable exception: Unidata 7.2 on Windows will no longer properly execute the Windows ftp program. Rocket support has basically said that in this version they changed the telnet server so that it can only run fully stdin/stdout compliant programs in the shell. Because the Windows ftp program isn't exactly stdin/stdout compliant, it is no longer a functional PCPERFORM program. Even if the ftp program is scripted to connect, transfer, and exit with no additional inputs or outputs, the ftp program will still fail. Of course, in this case if there's a put in the commands it'll fail after writing a zero byte file, potentially overwriting something. I could be frustrated with Microsoft because, after all, it's their program that's failing, I'm more frustrated with Rocket. While it's frustrating to have a past ability removed it's more frustrating to have received absolutely zero warning from Rocket that this could happen. I've searched the docs for 7.2... can't find a word about this change. (Hey, and I could be missing something; that's certainly a possibility.) It's fortunate that this install isn't a big production system, but what if it was? There are several production systems running Unidata on Windows, so if any of y'all are using ftp or any OS commands that may not meet Rocket's muster, please be aware of this change in 7.2. BTW, for me the fix was to use WinSCP (in command line mode) instead of Microsoft's FTP program. So far it seems to work just fine though the scripting is a bit different from Microsoft's ftp client. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Frustrated with Rocket / Unidata 7.2
Hi, Kevin. I don't find any support cases opened by you recently. Can you provide a support case number so I can review your interaction with our team and the technical bits, as well. thanks Wally Terhune U2 Support Architect Rocket Software 4600 South Ulster Street, Suite 1100 **Denver, CO 80237 **USA Tel: +1.720.475.8055 Email: wterh...@rs.com Web: www.rocketsoftware.com/u2 -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Kevin King Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 5:48 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] Frustrated with Rocket / Unidata 7.2 About a week ago I upgraded Unidata 7.1 on Windows XP/32 to Unidata 7.2 on Windows 7/64. Everything I need in Unidata seems to work fine on this release with one notable exception: Unidata 7.2 on Windows will no longer properly execute the Windows ftp program. Rocket support has basically said that in this version they changed the telnet server so that it can only run fully stdin/stdout compliant programs in the shell. Because the Windows ftp program isn't exactly stdin/stdout compliant, it is no longer a functional PCPERFORM program. Even if the ftp program is scripted to connect, transfer, and exit with no additional inputs or outputs, the ftp program will still fail. Of course, in this case if there's a put in the commands it'll fail after writing a zero byte file, potentially overwriting something. I could be frustrated with Microsoft because, after all, it's their program that's failing, I'm more frustrated with Rocket. While it's frustrating to have a past ability removed it's more frustrating to have received absolutely zero warning from Rocket that this could happen. I've searched the docs for 7.2... can't find a word about this change. (Hey, and I could be missing something; that's certainly a possibility.) It's fortunate that this install isn't a big production system, but what if it was? There are several production systems running Unidata on Windows, so if any of y'all are using ftp or any OS commands that may not meet Rocket's muster, please be aware of this change in 7.2. BTW, for me the fix was to use WinSCP (in command line mode) instead of Microsoft's FTP program. So far it seems to work just fine though the scripting is a bit different from Microsoft's ftp client. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Frustrated with Rocket / Unidata 7.2
Doug... If that's working on 7.2.7/Win I'd love to know how. Things here aren't the same as they were on 7.1. Non-Windows versions appear to be fine. Windows versions... not so much. Wally, my case # is 153722. It was posted through my support contacts @ S7. Feel free to contact me off list if you need more info. On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 6:42 PM, Wally Terhune wterh...@rocketsoftware.comwrote: Hi, Kevin. I don't find any support cases opened by you recently. Can you provide a support case number so I can review your interaction with our team and the technical bits, as well. thanks Wally Terhune U2 Support Architect Rocket Software 4600 South Ulster Street, Suite 1100 **Denver, CO 80237 **USA Tel: +1.720.475.8055 Email: wterh...@rs.com Web: www.rocketsoftware.com/u2 -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Kevin King Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 5:48 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] Frustrated with Rocket / Unidata 7.2 About a week ago I upgraded Unidata 7.1 on Windows XP/32 to Unidata 7.2 on Windows 7/64. Everything I need in Unidata seems to work fine on this release with one notable exception: Unidata 7.2 on Windows will no longer properly execute the Windows ftp program. Rocket support has basically said that in this version they changed the telnet server so that it can only run fully stdin/stdout compliant programs in the shell. Because the Windows ftp program isn't exactly stdin/stdout compliant, it is no longer a functional PCPERFORM program. Even if the ftp program is scripted to connect, transfer, and exit with no additional inputs or outputs, the ftp program will still fail. Of course, in this case if there's a put in the commands it'll fail after writing a zero byte file, potentially overwriting something. I could be frustrated with Microsoft because, after all, it's their program that's failing, I'm more frustrated with Rocket. While it's frustrating to have a past ability removed it's more frustrating to have received absolutely zero warning from Rocket that this could happen. I've searched the docs for 7.2... can't find a word about this change. (Hey, and I could be missing something; that's certainly a possibility.) It's fortunate that this install isn't a big production system, but what if it was? There are several production systems running Unidata on Windows, so if any of y'all are using ftp or any OS commands that may not meet Rocket's muster, please be aware of this change in 7.2. BTW, for me the fix was to use WinSCP (in command line mode) instead of Microsoft's FTP program. So far it seems to work just fine though the scripting is a bit different from Microsoft's ftp client. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- -Kevin http://www.PrecisOnline.com ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Frustrated with Rocket / Unidata 7.2
I spent half of yesterday trying to get so I can communicate with Rocket. I have given up - going to U2U in Sydney next week, so shall see if we can get any help there! -- Kate Stanton Walstan Systems Ltd 4 Kelmarna Ave, Herne Bay, Auckland 1011, New Zealand Phone: + 64 9 360 5310 Mobile: + 64 21 400 486 Email: k...@walstan.com On 18 February 2011 14:42, Wally Terhune wterh...@rocketsoftware.com wrote: Hi, Kevin. I don't find any support cases opened by you recently. Can you provide a support case number so I can review your interaction with our team and the technical bits, as well. thanks Wally Terhune U2 Support Architect Rocket Software 4600 South Ulster Street, Suite 1100 **Denver, CO 80237 **USA Tel: +1.720.475.8055 Email: wterh...@rs.com Web: www.rocketsoftware.com/u2 -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Kevin King Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 5:48 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] Frustrated with Rocket / Unidata 7.2 About a week ago I upgraded Unidata 7.1 on Windows XP/32 to Unidata 7.2 on Windows 7/64. Everything I need in Unidata seems to work fine on this release with one notable exception: Unidata 7.2 on Windows will no longer properly execute the Windows ftp program. Rocket support has basically said that in this version they changed the telnet server so that it can only run fully stdin/stdout compliant programs in the shell. Because the Windows ftp program isn't exactly stdin/stdout compliant, it is no longer a functional PCPERFORM program. Even if the ftp program is scripted to connect, transfer, and exit with no additional inputs or outputs, the ftp program will still fail. Of course, in this case if there's a put in the commands it'll fail after writing a zero byte file, potentially overwriting something. I could be frustrated with Microsoft because, after all, it's their program that's failing, I'm more frustrated with Rocket. While it's frustrating to have a past ability removed it's more frustrating to have received absolutely zero warning from Rocket that this could happen. I've searched the docs for 7.2... can't find a word about this change. (Hey, and I could be missing something; that's certainly a possibility.) It's fortunate that this install isn't a big production system, but what if it was? There are several production systems running Unidata on Windows, so if any of y'all are using ftp or any OS commands that may not meet Rocket's muster, please be aware of this change in 7.2. BTW, for me the fix was to use WinSCP (in command line mode) instead of Microsoft's FTP program. So far it seems to work just fine though the scripting is a bit different from Microsoft's ftp client. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Frustrated with Rocket / Unidata 7.2
Hi Kevin: Just checked FTP is still running on Unidata 7.2.7 on Windows 2003. Good luck, I'm still waiting for them to fix the SETPTR copies option that worked in 7.1 and they broke in 7.2 on Windows. Sorry Wally, I don't know the case. I spoke with an engineer while I was at U2 University. It was still open then and it is today. Regards, Doug http://www.u2logic.com/XLr8_Resizer.html Try our newly updated Resizer for Universe and Unidata -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Kevin King Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 6:55 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Frustrated with Rocket / Unidata 7.2 Doug... If that's working on 7.2.7/Win I'd love to know how. Things here aren't the same as they were on 7.1. Non-Windows versions appear to be fine. Windows versions... not so much. Wally, my case # is 153722. It was posted through my support contacts @ S7. Feel free to contact me off list if you need more info. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Frustrated with Rocket / Unidata 7.2
I wonder if the ftp on Win2003 is better than the ftp on Win7? Sure, I realize that it's about impossible for Rocket to know every little incompatibility with Windows versions but ftp? That's pretty crucial. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Frustrated with Rocket / Unidata 7.2
Totally OT, and I'm just musing here - Rocket, Raining Data then TigerLogic. Does anyone besides me see a trend here? Charlie Noah Charles W. Noah Associates cwn...@comcast.net The views and opinions expressed herein are my own (Charlie Noah) and do not necessarily reflect the views, positions or policies of any of my former, current or future employers, employees, clients, friends, enemies or anyone else who might take exception to them. On 02-17-2011 9:05 PM, Doug wrote: Hi Kevin: Just checked FTP is still running on Unidata 7.2.7 on Windows 2003. Good luck, I'm still waiting for them to fix the SETPTR copies option that worked in 7.1 and they broke in 7.2 on Windows. Sorry Wally, I don't know the case. I spoke with an engineer while I was at U2 University. It was still open then and it is today. Regards, Doug http://www.u2logic.com/XLr8_Resizer.html Try our newly updated Resizer for Universe and Unidata -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Kevin King Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 6:55 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Frustrated with Rocket / Unidata 7.2 Doug... If that's working on 7.2.7/Win I'd love to know how. Things here aren't the same as they were on 7.1. Non-Windows versions appear to be fine. Windows versions... not so much. Wally, my case # is 153722. It was posted through my support contacts @ S7. Feel free to contact me off list if you need more info. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Frustrated with Rocket / Unidata 7.2
I dunno man. There's some really good folks in the U2 group but sometimes I wonder if the decision makers over there ever consider that there are real people trying to use these products? On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 8:14 PM, Charlie Noah cwn...@comcast.net wrote: Totally OT, and I'm just musing here - Rocket, Raining Data then TigerLogic. Does anyone besides me see a trend here? ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Frustrated with Rocket / Unidata 7.2
It's impossible to please everyone. My bug report (and the long awaited fix...comes before yours :-) Get to the back of the line!! -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Kevin King Sent: Friday, 18 February 2011 2:20 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Frustrated with Rocket / Unidata 7.2 I dunno man. There's some really good folks in the U2 group but sometimes I wonder if the decision makers over there ever consider that there are real people trying to use these products? On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 8:14 PM, Charlie Noah cwn...@comcast.net wrote: Totally OT, and I'm just musing here - Rocket, Raining Data then TigerLogic. Does anyone besides me see a trend here? ** IMPORTANT MESSAGE * This e-mail message is intended only for the addressee(s) and contains information which may be confidential. If you are not the intended recipient please advise the sender by return email, do not use or disclose the contents, and delete the message and any attachments from your system. Unless specifically indicated, this email does not constitute formal advice or commitment by the sender or the Commonwealth Bank of Australia (ABN 48 123 123 124) or its subsidiaries. We can be contacted through our web site: commbank.com.au. If you no longer wish to receive commercial electronic messages from us, please reply to this e-mail by typing Unsubscribe in the subject line. ** ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Frustrated with Rocket / Unidata 7.2
Should I change the name of my company to Galactic Juggernaut ? -Original Message- From: Charlie Noah cwn...@comcast.net To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Thu, Feb 17, 2011 7:14 pm Subject: Re: [U2] Frustrated with Rocket / Unidata 7.2 Totally OT, and I'm just musing here - Rocket, Raining Data then TigerLogic. Does anyone besides me see a trend here? Charlie Noah Charles W. Noah Associates cwn...@comcast.net The views and opinions expressed herein are my own (Charlie Noah) and do not necessarily reflect the views, positions or policies of any of my former, current or future employers, employees, clients, friends, enemies or anyone else who might take exception to them. On 02-17-2011 9:05 PM, Doug wrote: Hi Kevin: Just checked FTP is still running on Unidata 7.2.7 on Windows 2003. Good luck, I'm still waiting for them to fix the SETPTR copies option that worked in 7.1 and they broke in 7.2 on Windows. Sorry Wally, I don't know the case. I spoke with an engineer while I was at U2 University. It was still open then and it is today. Regards, Doug http://www.u2logic.com/XLr8_Resizer.html Try our newly updated Resizer for Universe and Unidata -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Kevin King Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 6:55 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Frustrated with Rocket / Unidata 7.2 Doug... If that's working on 7.2.7/Win I'd love to know how. Things here aren't the same as they were on 7.1. Non-Windows versions appear to be fine. Windows versions... not so much. Wally, my case # is 153722. It was posted through my support contacts @ S7. Feel free to contact me off list if you need more info. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Frustrated with Rocket / Unidata 7.2
Hey, I like that! Charlie On 02-17-2011 9:36 PM, fft2...@aol.com wrote: Should I change the name of my company to Galactic Juggernaut ? -Original Message- From: Charlie Noahcwn...@comcast.net To: U2 Users Listu2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Thu, Feb 17, 2011 7:14 pm Subject: Re: [U2] Frustrated with Rocket / Unidata 7.2 Totally OT, and I'm just musing here - Rocket, Raining Data then TigerLogic. Does anyone besides me see a trend here? Charlie Noah Charles W. Noah Associates cwn...@comcast.net The views and opinions expressed herein are my own (Charlie Noah) and do not necessarily reflect the views, positions or policies of any of my former, current or future employers, employees, clients, friends, enemies or anyone else who might take exception to them. On 02-17-2011 9:05 PM, Doug wrote: Hi Kevin: Just checked FTP is still running on Unidata 7.2.7 on Windows 2003. Good luck, I'm still waiting for them to fix the SETPTR copies option that worked in 7.1 and they broke in 7.2 on Windows. Sorry Wally, I don't know the case. I spoke with an engineer while I was at U2 University. It was still open then and it is today. Regards, Doug http://www.u2logic.com/XLr8_Resizer.html Try our newly updated Resizer for Universe and Unidata -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Kevin King Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 6:55 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Frustrated with Rocket / Unidata 7.2 Doug... If that's working on 7.2.7/Win I'd love to know how. Things here aren't the same as they were on 7.1. Non-Windows versions appear to be fine. Windows versions... not so much. Wally, my case # is 153722. It was posted through my support contacts @ S7. Feel free to contact me off list if you need more info. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Frustrated with Rocket / Unidata 7.2
Thanks for the chuckle - that was funny! ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Frustrated with Rocket / Unidata 7.2
On 2/17/2011 10:14 PM, Kevin King wrote: I wonder if the ftp on Win2003 is better than the ftp on Win7? Sure, I realize that it's about impossible for Rocket to know every little incompatibility with Windows versions but ftp? That's pretty crucial. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users Kevin, Look on the bright side, SCP is a better and safer (snooping and bit-transfer wise) solution. I only use authenticated FTP when a vendor forces me due to a lack of technology. IMO FTP refuses to die specifically because of Windows software, so it's a bit ironic that this is a Microsoft platform related problem. This isn't yet-another-ftp-vs-scp-debate thread so I'll go back to lurking again. :) GlenB ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] UV on Linux question...
Even though Fedora is sort-of (but not) the 'community' version of Red Hat, there are major differences between the two; which are not clearly documented when it comes to commercial applications - installing and running. If you have to use U2 on a 'freedom' version of Red Hat, I suggest that you have a look at CentOS - centos.org and use that instead of Fedora. George Gallen-2 wrote: I noticed an issue with the '/usr/uv/bin/uv -admin -stop' command Which works fine with RedHat Enterprise but gives an error with Fedora 14 (and 13) - seems that cut command wants it's numbers to start with 1 NOT 0 - Learn and Do Excel and Share http://mvdbs.com http://mvdbs.com -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/UV-on-Linux-question...-tp30953691p30955980.html Sent from the U2 - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Frustrated with Rocket / Unidata 7.2
Oh, I completely agree. But the point isn't FTP vs. SCP or SFTP, the point is the value (or anti-value) of unexpectedly breaking existing code. For years I've been preaching about making reusable components of things that are on the fringe of the operating environment to minimize the impact of issues like this, but here many years into this career it's been my experience that few who have heard my barking have actually heeded the advice. Now, this issue could seriously bite some good folks. That's really the focus of this frustration... knowing that my limited experiences quite possibly may only be the tip of this iceberg. I think what really set me off was the statement from Rocket support that it's working properly, when clearly properly to Rocket is equivalent to broken in what used to be perfectly functional code. Forgive me, but is this really the best confidence builder? ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Frustrated with Rocket / Unidata 7.2
U2 has probably spoiled us. You should see some of the issues others face upgrading in Oracle, SQL Server, Windows and so on. We have an expectation of seamless upgrades that does not occur in other environments. For people to have software that is 25 years old still running on U2 is pretty good. Regards David Jordan ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
