I should clarify my question.  What is the legality behind licensing a SaaS (or 
BPaaS) offering with a U2 system behind it?

I believe at one point there were terms of use in the user license that made a 
SaaS implementation potentially impractical.

BTW, believe it or not, providing Microsoft products in a SaaS environment is a 
violation of their license agreement, unless you get a special variant of their 
licenses (these raise the price significantly).  This is little known, and to 
date Microsoft has not been aggressive in enforcing it, but that apparently 
might be about to change.

U2, to my knowledge requires a special type of network license if you are going 
to provide pooled connections of any sort (e.g. through a web server.)  The 
special terms to look up seem to be "Connection Pooling" and "Concurrent User". 
 My initial read of the section describing these is that if I have potentially 
2 million different users who may use my service through web-based connection 
pooling through the term of the license, (even if not concurrently), I must 
have licenses enough (2 million of them) to support this.  I copy the block of 
text at the bottom of this message from a copy of the license agreement that I 
have (possibly out of date - that's part of the question).  Their definition of 
Concurrent seems a bit odd...

(BTW, I agree: I would *never* use an unprotected telnet session over the 
internet.  I would be inclined to have the U2 server hiding behind a good solid 
commercial grade web server.)

"Connection Pooling (CP): Licensee is not authorized to enable or engage in 
Connection Pooling unless Licensee is able to count and acquire required 
Concurrent Session or Concurrent User entitlements covering all unique 
individuals or single, unique instances of a software application that might 
process transactions using the Program. CP session entitlements [ which would 
cover use by any and all unique individuals or unique single instances of 
software programs over a single logical open, persistent connection ] are 
optionally available for purchase for use with the Workgroup Edition, but are 
limited to a maximum of two (2) CP sessions. Enterprise Edition is offered with 
two (2) initial Rocket CP sessions with optional additional CP session 
entitlements available for purchase."

"... that might process transactions..." This would effectively blow any SaaS 
or BPaaS option out of the water for a U2 based application.  I may be 
misunderstanding the above, or there may be a different license available 
somewhere, hence my question.

Thank you,

Robert Houben
IBM Certified Solution Advisor and Architect - Cloud Computing Architecture
Chief Technology Officer
FusionWare Integration Corp.
p: 604-777-4254 x158
f: 604-608-5544
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Subject: Re: [U2] Universe/Unidata in the Cloud

Just so I'm clear... what exactly would be different about such a license?
 Seems to me the typical licensing terms would work just fine, as long as you 
have enough seats to handle the traffic.  I would, however, be concerned about 
opening up the telnet port on a cloud architecture.

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