[U2] Compressing PDFs

2013-03-28 Thread Israel, John R.
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After a bunch of work, I have a UNIX directory that has a bunch of PDFs.

I wish to bundle these PDFs up into a 7zip formatted compressed file.  I see 
that there is a ported version of the Windows version of 7zip for UNIX called 
p7zip.

Has anyone installed p7zip and if so, what else needed to be installed with it? 
 Is it stand-alone or is it dependent on other software packages being loaded 
first?

OR

Does anyone have a simple way for UNIX to run the Windows command line version 
of 7zip against my UNIX PDF directory?


Thanks

JRI
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Re: [U2] Compressing PDFs

2013-03-28 Thread Martin Braid
Move all the PDF files to a new Unix folder FRED
tar  -cvf   JI.tar  FRED
compress JI.tar
This will then give you a Unix file JI.tar.Z  which you can then ftp to a 
Windows location
Accessing this file in NT will act as a zip file that can be extracted (with 
folder names enabled if any)




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Subject: [U2] Compressing PDFs

HPUX, UniData  SB:

After a bunch of work, I have a UNIX directory that has a bunch of PDFs.

I wish to bundle these PDFs up into a 7zip formatted compressed file.  I see 
that there is a ported version of the Windows version of 7zip for UNIX called 
p7zip.

Has anyone installed p7zip and if so, what else needed to be installed with it? 
 Is it stand-alone or is it dependent on other software packages being loaded 
first?

OR

Does anyone have a simple way for UNIX to run the Windows command line version 
of 7zip against my UNIX PDF directory?


Thanks

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Re: [U2] Compressing PDFs

2013-03-28 Thread Dan Goble
I have not used p7zip, but HP-UX has a native zip command on it.   The thing is 
PDFs are pretty well compressed so you may not gain much disk space back.

HTH,
-Dan


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Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 8:55 AM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: [U2] Compressing PDFs

HPUX, UniData  SB:

After a bunch of work, I have a UNIX directory that has a bunch of PDFs.

I wish to bundle these PDFs up into a 7zip formatted compressed file.  I see 
that there is a ported version of the Windows version of 7zip for UNIX called 
p7zip.

Has anyone installed p7zip and if so, what else needed to be installed with it? 
 Is it stand-alone or is it dependent on other software packages being loaded 
first?

OR

Does anyone have a simple way for UNIX to run the Windows command line version 
of 7zip against my UNIX PDF directory?


Thanks

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Re: [U2] Compressing PDFs

2013-03-28 Thread Anthonys Lists

On 28/03/2013 13:09, Martin Braid wrote:

Move all the PDF files to a new Unix folder FRED
tar  -cvf   JI.tar  FRED
compress JI.tar
This will then give you a Unix file JI.tar.Z  which you can then ftp to a 
Windows location
Accessing this file in NT will act as a zip file that can be extracted (with 
folder names enabled if any)

or simpler (most tars will support this, check the docu)

tar -czvf JI.tgz FRED

(Although I'd just run samba, export the directory to windows, and run 
7zip from there)


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Re: [U2] Compressing PDFs

2013-03-28 Thread Israel, John R.
There are several issues here that I am dealing with for this project.

#1 The company that we are sending the PDFs to is Windows based, so I am 
limited as to the formats they can accept (zip and 7z being two of them).

#2 In my testing, I have found that 7z gives significantly more compression.  
In my test, I took a single PDF that was 17k in size.  I made 3 copies of it 
for a total of 17 x 4 = 68k.  Using a traditional zip, I was able to compact 
these 4 PDFs down into a 33k file (about half).  HOWEVER, after compressing it 
down with 7z, those same 4 PDFs went down to only 8K!  That is a SIGNIFICANT 
difference.

#3 I wrote a program we all use that archives the intended file, then transmits 
the archive to the 2nd party.  That way, if they did not get it, I can re-send 
it from the archive w/o having to try to re-create the data (which may have 
changed).  Also, if there are any issues, I can look at the archive file and 
determine exactly what they got and then determine if the problem was mine or 
theirs.


JRI



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Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 9:13 AM
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Subject: Re: [U2] Compressing PDFs

I have not used p7zip, but HP-UX has a native zip command on it.   The thing is 
PDFs are pretty well compressed so you may not gain much disk space back.

HTH,
-Dan


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Interline Brands, Inc.
804 East Gate Drive Suite 100, Mount Laurel, NJ 08054
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Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 8:55 AM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: [U2] Compressing PDFs

HPUX, UniData  SB:

After a bunch of work, I have a UNIX directory that has a bunch of PDFs.

I wish to bundle these PDFs up into a 7zip formatted compressed file.  I see 
that there is a ported version of the Windows version of 7zip for UNIX called 
p7zip.

Has anyone installed p7zip and if so, what else needed to be installed with it? 
 Is it stand-alone or is it dependent on other software packages being loaded 
first?

OR

Does anyone have a simple way for UNIX to run the Windows command line version 
of 7zip against my UNIX PDF directory?


Thanks

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Re: [U2] Compressing PDFs

2013-03-28 Thread Symeon Breen
As others have said *nix comes with its own zip compressor.

However I have also  installed 7zip on our redhat linux box - no problems
and we use it every day, I don't remember any dependencies I think it was
just an rpm install. 





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To: U2 Users List
Subject: [U2] Compressing PDFs

HPUX, UniData  SB:

After a bunch of work, I have a UNIX directory that has a bunch of PDFs.

I wish to bundle these PDFs up into a 7zip formatted compressed file.  I see
that there is a ported version of the Windows version of 7zip for UNIX
called p7zip.

Has anyone installed p7zip and if so, what else needed to be installed with
it?  Is it stand-alone or is it dependent on other software packages being
loaded first?

OR

Does anyone have a simple way for UNIX to run the Windows command line
version of 7zip against my UNIX PDF directory?


Thanks

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Re: [U2] Compressing PDFs

2013-03-28 Thread Tony Gravagno
In addition to 7-Zip (the software, not just the compression
algorithm), consider WinRAR. They're both based on the same UnRAR
decompression. They both support multiple platforms, multiple
compression methods, multiple volumes, security, etc.  I hope I don't
start a war by suggesting that anyone spend money for software or
anything, but WinRAR is shareware for $30 and has Windows extensions
for a UI that make it worth it to some people. You don't need to pay
for it, and I'd guess most people do not, but it's a good thing to do,
especially for a company. There is a tiny nag on file opens which is
easy to dismiss. I've been using WinRAR for almost a decade and swear
by it for all compression needs. For some people the choice is just a
matter of personal preference where most other comparisons are
similar. You'll see arguments out there about 128bit AES vs 256, or
how many CPU cores are utilized, or whether you get 80% compression vs
85%. At some point it just comes down to feel.

I'd recommend that you do not provide your trading partners with
software, but tell them the compression mechanism you use and why, and
then point them to a couple websites from which they can make their
own choices. Otherwise you could get stuck providing support because
YOU told them to use brandX.

As to your local storage, consider delivering files to your trading
partners in a format that's easy for Them to manipulate, but
re-compress/store files in a way that's easy for You to manipulate.
The content is ultimately the same and file transport/unpacking issues
are rare and easy to remedy.

HTH
T


 From: Israel, John R. 
 There are several issues here that I am dealing with for this
project.
 
 #1 The company that we are sending the PDFs to is Windows based, so
 I am limited as to the formats they can accept (zip and 7z being two
of
 them).
 
 #2 In my testing, I have found that 7z gives significantly more
 compression.  In my test, I took a single PDF that was 17k in size.
I
 made 3 copies of it for a total of 17 x 4 = 68k.  Using a
traditional zip, I
 was able to compact these 4 PDFs down into a 33k file (about half).
 HOWEVER, after compressing it down with 7z, those same 4 PDFs went
 down to only 8K!  That is a SIGNIFICANT difference.
 
 #3 I wrote a program we all use that archives the intended file,
then
 transmits the archive to the 2nd party.  That way, if they did not
get it, I
 can re-send it from the archive w/o having to try to re-create the
data
 (which may have changed).  Also, if there are any issues, I can look
at
 the archive file and determine exactly what they got and then
 determine if the problem was mine or theirs.


 From: Israel, John R.
 
 HPUX, UniData  SB:
 
 After a bunch of work, I have a UNIX directory that has a bunch of
 PDFs.
 
 I wish to bundle these PDFs up into a 7zip formatted compressed
file.  I
 see that there is a ported version of the Windows version of 7zip
for
 UNIX called p7zip.
 
 Has anyone installed p7zip and if so, what else needed to be
installed
 with it?  Is it stand-alone or is it dependent on other software
packages
 being loaded first?
 
 OR
 
 Does anyone have a simple way for UNIX to run the Windows
 command line version of 7zip against my UNIX PDF directory?

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Re: [U2] Compressing PDFs

2013-03-28 Thread Israel, John R.
My push for going with 7z is that:
1) we use it as a company on all our Windows boxes and
2) the other company involved in my project also uses it

The trick is to get it running on my UNIX box (or rather, getting my UNIX Admin 
to get it loaded and working).

If the difference between a zip and a 7z file were just a few percentages, I 
would not be pushing so hard for 7z.  But 50% compression (with zip) vs. 90% 
compression is worth investigating.

Thanks for all replies.

JRI



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From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Tony Gravagno
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 11:59 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] Compressing PDFs

In addition to 7-Zip (the software, not just the compression algorithm), 
consider WinRAR. They're both based on the same UnRAR decompression. They both 
support multiple platforms, multiple compression methods, multiple volumes, 
security, etc.  I hope I don't start a war by suggesting that anyone spend 
money for software or anything, but WinRAR is shareware for $30 and has Windows 
extensions for a UI that make it worth it to some people. You don't need to pay 
for it, and I'd guess most people do not, but it's a good thing to do, 
especially for a company. There is a tiny nag on file opens which is easy to 
dismiss. I've been using WinRAR for almost a decade and swear by it for all 
compression needs. For some people the choice is just a matter of personal 
preference where most other comparisons are similar. You'll see arguments out 
there about 128bit AES vs 256, or how many CPU cores are utilized, or whether 
you get 80% compression vs 85%. At some point it just comes down to feel.

I'd recommend that you do not provide your trading partners with software, but 
tell them the compression mechanism you use and why, and then point them to a 
couple websites from which they can make their own choices. Otherwise you could 
get stuck providing support because YOU told them to use brandX.

As to your local storage, consider delivering files to your trading partners in 
a format that's easy for Them to manipulate, but re-compress/store files in a 
way that's easy for You to manipulate.
The content is ultimately the same and file transport/unpacking issues are rare 
and easy to remedy.

HTH
T


 From: Israel, John R. 
 There are several issues here that I am dealing with for this
project.
 
 #1 The company that we are sending the PDFs to is Windows based, so I 
 am limited as to the formats they can accept (zip and 7z being two
of
 them).
 
 #2 In my testing, I have found that 7z gives significantly more 
 compression.  In my test, I took a single PDF that was 17k in size.
I
 made 3 copies of it for a total of 17 x 4 = 68k.  Using a
traditional zip, I
 was able to compact these 4 PDFs down into a 33k file (about half).
 HOWEVER, after compressing it down with 7z, those same 4 PDFs went 
 down to only 8K!  That is a SIGNIFICANT difference.
 
 #3 I wrote a program we all use that archives the intended file,
then
 transmits the archive to the 2nd party.  That way, if they did not
get it, I
 can re-send it from the archive w/o having to try to re-create the
data
 (which may have changed).  Also, if there are any issues, I can look
at
 the archive file and determine exactly what they got and then 
 determine if the problem was mine or theirs.


 From: Israel, John R.
 
 HPUX, UniData  SB:
 
 After a bunch of work, I have a UNIX directory that has a bunch of 
 PDFs.
 
 I wish to bundle these PDFs up into a 7zip formatted compressed
file.  I
 see that there is a ported version of the Windows version of 7zip
for
 UNIX called p7zip.
 
 Has anyone installed p7zip and if so, what else needed to be
installed
 with it?  Is it stand-alone or is it dependent on other software
packages
 being loaded first?
 
 OR
 
 Does anyone have a simple way for UNIX to run the Windows command line 
 version of 7zip against my UNIX PDF directory?

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Re: [U2] Compressing PDFs

2013-03-28 Thread larryh
I use 7zip extensively on linux and windows.  With RedHat / CentOS it's
simply an rpm or yum install, and it works great.  It might be a little
more challenging to find HP-UX binaries.  You could always download the
source and compile it yourself, I guess...

Larry Hiscock
Western Computer Services


 My push for going with 7z is that:
 1) we use it as a company on all our Windows boxes and
 2) the other company involved in my project also uses it

 The trick is to get it running on my UNIX box (or rather, getting my UNIX
 Admin to get it loaded and working).

 If the difference between a zip and a 7z file were just a few percentages,
 I would not be pushing so hard for 7z.  But 50% compression (with zip) vs.
 90% compression is worth investigating.

 Thanks for all replies.

 JRI



 -Original Message-
 From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
 [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Tony Gravagno
 Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 11:59 AM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: Re: [U2] Compressing PDFs

 In addition to 7-Zip (the software, not just the compression algorithm),
 consider WinRAR. They're both based on the same UnRAR decompression. They
 both support multiple platforms, multiple compression methods, multiple
 volumes, security, etc.  I hope I don't start a war by suggesting that
 anyone spend money for software or anything, but WinRAR is shareware for
 $30 and has Windows extensions for a UI that make it worth it to some
 people. You don't need to pay for it, and I'd guess most people do not,
 but it's a good thing to do, especially for a company. There is a tiny nag
 on file opens which is easy to dismiss. I've been using WinRAR for almost
 a decade and swear by it for all compression needs. For some people the
 choice is just a matter of personal preference where most other
 comparisons are similar. You'll see arguments out there about 128bit AES
 vs 256, or how many CPU cores are utilized, or whether you get 80%
 compression vs 85%. At some point it just comes down to feel.

 I'd recommend that you do not provide your trading partners with software,
 but tell them the compression mechanism you use and why, and then point
 them to a couple websites from which they can make their own choices.
 Otherwise you could get stuck providing support because YOU told them to
 use brandX.

 As to your local storage, consider delivering files to your trading
 partners in a format that's easy for Them to manipulate, but
 re-compress/store files in a way that's easy for You to manipulate.
 The content is ultimately the same and file transport/unpacking issues are
 rare and easy to remedy.

 HTH
 T


 From: Israel, John R.
 There are several issues here that I am dealing with for this
 project.

 #1 The company that we are sending the PDFs to is Windows based, so I
 am limited as to the formats they can accept (zip and 7z being two
 of
 them).

 #2 In my testing, I have found that 7z gives significantly more
 compression.  In my test, I took a single PDF that was 17k in size.
 I
 made 3 copies of it for a total of 17 x 4 = 68k.  Using a
 traditional zip, I
 was able to compact these 4 PDFs down into a 33k file (about half).
 HOWEVER, after compressing it down with 7z, those same 4 PDFs went
 down to only 8K!  That is a SIGNIFICANT difference.

 #3 I wrote a program we all use that archives the intended file,
 then
 transmits the archive to the 2nd party.  That way, if they did not
 get it, I
 can re-send it from the archive w/o having to try to re-create the
 data
 (which may have changed).  Also, if there are any issues, I can look
 at
 the archive file and determine exactly what they got and then
 determine if the problem was mine or theirs.


 From: Israel, John R.

 HPUX, UniData  SB:

 After a bunch of work, I have a UNIX directory that has a bunch of
 PDFs.

 I wish to bundle these PDFs up into a 7zip formatted compressed
 file.  I
 see that there is a ported version of the Windows version of 7zip
 for
 UNIX called p7zip.

 Has anyone installed p7zip and if so, what else needed to be
 installed
 with it?  Is it stand-alone or is it dependent on other software
 packages
 being loaded first?

 OR

 Does anyone have a simple way for UNIX to run the Windows command line
 version of 7zip against my UNIX PDF directory?

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Re: [U2] Compressing PDFs

2013-03-28 Thread William Brutzman
We use Adobe's LiveCycle Designer for pdf forrms.  LiveCycle forms allows
for grabbing the data from a database and hydrating a pdf template.  The
whole zip thing goes away.

--Bill


On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 2:10 PM, lar...@wcs-corp.com wrote:

 I use 7zip extensively on linux and windows.  With RedHat / CentOS it's
 simply an rpm or yum install, and it works great.  It might be a little
 more challenging to find HP-UX binaries.  You could always download the
 source and compile it yourself, I guess...

 Larry Hiscock
 Western Computer Services


  My push for going with 7z is that:
  1) we use it as a company on all our Windows boxes and
  2) the other company involved in my project also uses it
 
  The trick is to get it running on my UNIX box (or rather, getting my UNIX
  Admin to get it loaded and working).
 
  If the difference between a zip and a 7z file were just a few
 percentages,
  I would not be pushing so hard for 7z.  But 50% compression (with zip)
 vs.
  90% compression is worth investigating.
 
  Thanks for all replies.
 
  JRI
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
  [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Tony Gravagno
  Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 11:59 AM
  To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
  Subject: Re: [U2] Compressing PDFs
 
  In addition to 7-Zip (the software, not just the compression algorithm),
  consider WinRAR. They're both based on the same UnRAR decompression. They
  both support multiple platforms, multiple compression methods, multiple
  volumes, security, etc.  I hope I don't start a war by suggesting that
  anyone spend money for software or anything, but WinRAR is shareware for
  $30 and has Windows extensions for a UI that make it worth it to some
  people. You don't need to pay for it, and I'd guess most people do not,
  but it's a good thing to do, especially for a company. There is a tiny
 nag
  on file opens which is easy to dismiss. I've been using WinRAR for almost
  a decade and swear by it for all compression needs. For some people the
  choice is just a matter of personal preference where most other
  comparisons are similar. You'll see arguments out there about 128bit AES
  vs 256, or how many CPU cores are utilized, or whether you get 80%
  compression vs 85%. At some point it just comes down to feel.
 
  I'd recommend that you do not provide your trading partners with
 software,
  but tell them the compression mechanism you use and why, and then point
  them to a couple websites from which they can make their own choices.
  Otherwise you could get stuck providing support because YOU told them to
  use brandX.
 
  As to your local storage, consider delivering files to your trading
  partners in a format that's easy for Them to manipulate, but
  re-compress/store files in a way that's easy for You to manipulate.
  The content is ultimately the same and file transport/unpacking issues
 are
  rare and easy to remedy.
 
  HTH
  T
 
 
  From: Israel, John R.
  There are several issues here that I am dealing with for this
  project.
 
  #1 The company that we are sending the PDFs to is Windows based, so I
  am limited as to the formats they can accept (zip and 7z being two
  of
  them).
 
  #2 In my testing, I have found that 7z gives significantly more
  compression.  In my test, I took a single PDF that was 17k in size.
  I
  made 3 copies of it for a total of 17 x 4 = 68k.  Using a
  traditional zip, I
  was able to compact these 4 PDFs down into a 33k file (about half).
  HOWEVER, after compressing it down with 7z, those same 4 PDFs went
  down to only 8K!  That is a SIGNIFICANT difference.
 
  #3 I wrote a program we all use that archives the intended file,
  then
  transmits the archive to the 2nd party.  That way, if they did not
  get it, I
  can re-send it from the archive w/o having to try to re-create the
  data
  (which may have changed).  Also, if there are any issues, I can look
  at
  the archive file and determine exactly what they got and then
  determine if the problem was mine or theirs.
 
 
  From: Israel, John R.
 
  HPUX, UniData  SB:
 
  After a bunch of work, I have a UNIX directory that has a bunch of
  PDFs.
 
  I wish to bundle these PDFs up into a 7zip formatted compressed
  file.  I
  see that there is a ported version of the Windows version of 7zip
  for
  UNIX called p7zip.
 
  Has anyone installed p7zip and if so, what else needed to be
  installed
  with it?  Is it stand-alone or is it dependent on other software
  packages
  being loaded first?
 
  OR
 
  Does anyone have a simple way for UNIX to run the Windows command line
  version of 7zip against my UNIX PDF directory?
 
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Re: [U2] Compressing PDFs

2013-03-28 Thread Bill Haskett
The main reason I like WinRAR is because is offers compression in 
command-line mode.  This is very handy for me in the U2 environment, 
along with for Windows backups, etc.  In addition, I can use its UI to 
create .zip files that are useful on Windows client machines.


Bill
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- Original Message -
*From:* 3xk547...@sneakemail.com
*To:* u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
*Date:* 3/28/2013 8:58 AM
*Subject:* Re: [U2] Compressing PDFs

In addition to 7-Zip (the software, not just the compression
algorithm), consider WinRAR. They're both based on the same UnRAR
decompression. They both support multiple platforms, multiple
compression methods, multiple volumes, security, etc.  I hope I don't
start a war by suggesting that anyone spend money for software or
anything, but WinRAR is shareware for $30 and has Windows extensions
for a UI that make it worth it to some people. You don't need to pay
for it, and I'd guess most people do not, but it's a good thing to do,
especially for a company. There is a tiny nag on file opens which is
easy to dismiss. I've been using WinRAR for almost a decade and swear
by it for all compression needs. For some people the choice is just a
matter of personal preference where most other comparisons are
similar. You'll see arguments out there about 128bit AES vs 256, or
how many CPU cores are utilized, or whether you get 80% compression vs
85%. At some point it just comes down to feel.

I'd recommend that you do not provide your trading partners with
software, but tell them the compression mechanism you use and why, and
then point them to a couple websites from which they can make their
own choices. Otherwise you could get stuck providing support because
YOU told them to use brandX.

As to your local storage, consider delivering files to your trading
partners in a format that's easy for Them to manipulate, but
re-compress/store files in a way that's easy for You to manipulate.
The content is ultimately the same and file transport/unpacking issues
are rare and easy to remedy.

HTH
T



From: Israel, John R.
There are several issues here that I am dealing with for this

project.

#1 The company that we are sending the PDFs to is Windows based, so
I am limited as to the formats they can accept (zip and 7z being two

of

them).

#2 In my testing, I have found that 7z gives significantly more
compression.  In my test, I took a single PDF that was 17k in size.

I

made 3 copies of it for a total of 17 x 4 = 68k.  Using a

traditional zip, I

was able to compact these 4 PDFs down into a 33k file (about half).
HOWEVER, after compressing it down with 7z, those same 4 PDFs went
down to only 8K!  That is a SIGNIFICANT difference.

#3 I wrote a program we all use that archives the intended file,

then

transmits the archive to the 2nd party.  That way, if they did not

get it, I

can re-send it from the archive w/o having to try to re-create the

data

(which may have changed).  Also, if there are any issues, I can look

at

the archive file and determine exactly what they got and then
determine if the problem was mine or theirs.
From: Israel, John R.

HPUX, UniData  SB:

After a bunch of work, I have a UNIX directory that has a bunch of
PDFs.

I wish to bundle these PDFs up into a 7zip formatted compressed

file.  I

see that there is a ported version of the Windows version of 7zip

for

UNIX called p7zip.

Has anyone installed p7zip and if so, what else needed to be

installed

with it?  Is it stand-alone or is it dependent on other software

packages

being loaded first?

OR

Does anyone have a simple way for UNIX to run the Windows
command line version of 7zip against my UNIX PDF directory?

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Re: [U2] Social Networks for MV

2013-03-28 Thread Robert Houben
Here's another article about social media.  While it addresses more consumer 
facing data, you can easily see how some B2B companies can take advantage of 
the same concepts:
http://www.thetibcoblog.com/2013/03/12/why-do-companies-find-it-so-hard-to-get-social-media-right/?goback=%2Egde_43707_member_225094184%2Egde_43707_member_222896835


-Original Message-
From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Tony Gravagno
Sent: March-19-13 2:40 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] Social Networks for MV

 From: Robert Houben
 And just to mess with your heads a bit more...
 http://smallbiztrends.com/2013/03/10-reasons-business-pinterest.html

Oh dear, you seem to have provoked yet another blog. :) 
http://nebula-rnd.com/blog/tech/mv/2013/03/socialmv3.html

Summary: It's not just the individual services. Each of us has different roles 
in life. Pinterest might not appeal to us as MV people but it might appeal to 
the companies we support who wish to use it for marketing. And while you might 
not want to tweet about your MV epiphanies, in the broad landscape of social 
media there are many APIs (web services) for extracting data into your MV 
system, and publishing data from your MV system. As professionals and business 
people, ignoring this can be a strategic mistake.

Thanks for the ongoing inspiration.
T



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Re: [U2] Social Networks for MV

2013-03-28 Thread Bill Haskett
The biggest issue I have this all of this social media craze (emperor's 
new clothes) is the time it takes to manage multiple ways to do 
predominately the same thing. Although with enough resources, these 
marketing avenues are manageable, for small businesses, there aren't 
enough resources in house.  In addition, to outsource requires 
tremendous luck in the selection process.


Secondly, the level of self-absorption in these social media outlets is 
so monumental, what can I say?   It's like talking with someone who 
spends the entire time preening themselves in from me.


Just a thought, or two... :-)

Bill
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*To:* U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
*Date:* 3/28/2013 2:14 PM
*Subject:* Re: [U2] Social Networks for MV

Here's another article about social media.  While it addresses more consumer 
facing data, you can easily see how some B2B companies can take advantage of 
the same concepts:
http://www.thetibcoblog.com/2013/03/12/why-do-companies-find-it-so-hard-to-get-social-media-right/?goback=%2Egde_43707_member_225094184%2Egde_43707_member_222896835


-Original Message-
From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Tony Gravagno
Sent: March-19-13 2:40 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] Social Networks for MV


From: Robert Houben
And just to mess with your heads a bit more...
http://smallbiztrends.com/2013/03/10-reasons-business-pinterest.html

Oh dear, you seem to have provoked yet another blog. :) 
http://nebula-rnd.com/blog/tech/mv/2013/03/socialmv3.html

Summary: It's not just the individual services. Each of us has different roles 
in life. Pinterest might not appeal to us as MV people but it might appeal to 
the companies we support who wish to use it for marketing. And while you might 
not want to tweet about your MV epiphanies, in the broad landscape of social 
media there are many APIs (web services) for extracting data into your MV 
system, and publishing data from your MV system. As professionals and business 
people, ignoring this can be a strategic mistake.

Thanks for the ongoing inspiration.
T


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Re: [U2] Social Networks for MV

2013-03-28 Thread Robert Houben
Hi Bill,

Hootsuite (hootsuite.com) is a tool that allows you to manage the multiple 
ways to do the same thing problem very handily. There is a free variation 
that's probably good for any company starting out as it lets you do up to 5 
social media outlets for free.  Let's see, that's Twitter, a corporate Facebook 
page, LinkedIn, Google+, I wouldn't recommend starting with more than that, but 
you can essentially send the same posts to all these places. What's more, you 
can take a half hour each week, and plan a series of posts, which Hootsuite 
will let you schedule, and then ignore them. If you set things up right, you 
can be email notified if someone actually tries to contact you using social 
media.  Alternately, check to see if you have any posts directed to you twice a 
day. You probably already check email...

If you are consumer oriented, you may need to assign more resources to managing 
the activity on a Facebook page, but then you'll probably get more value from 
it, too.  Note that we are a very small B2B company, but in my opinion, the 
effort I've put into social media has been hugely rewarded.

Of course, your mileage may vary...

-Original Message-
From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Haskett
Sent: March-28-13 2:55 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] Social Networks for MV

The biggest issue I have this all of this social media craze (emperor's new 
clothes) is the time it takes to manage multiple ways to do predominately the 
same thing. Although with enough resources, these marketing avenues are 
manageable, for small businesses, there aren't enough resources in house.  In 
addition, to outsource requires tremendous luck in the selection process.

Secondly, the level of self-absorption in these social media outlets is
so monumental, what can I say?   It's like talking with someone who
spends the entire time preening themselves in from me.

Just a thought, or two... :-)

Bill
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- Original Message -
*From:* robert.hou...@fwic.net
*To:* U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
*Date:* 3/28/2013 2:14 PM
*Subject:* Re: [U2] Social Networks for MV
 Here's another article about social media.  While it addresses more consumer 
 facing data, you can easily see how some B2B companies can take advantage of 
 the same concepts:
 http://www.thetibcoblog.com/2013/03/12/why-do-companies-find-it-so-har
 d-to-get-social-media-right/?goback=%2Egde_43707_member_225094184%2Egd
 e_43707_member_222896835


 -Original Message-
 From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
 [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Tony
 Gravagno
 Sent: March-19-13 2:40 PM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: Re: [U2] Social Networks for MV

 From: Robert Houben
 And just to mess with your heads a bit more...
 http://smallbiztrends.com/2013/03/10-reasons-business-pinterest.html
 Oh dear, you seem to have provoked yet another blog. :)
 http://nebula-rnd.com/blog/tech/mv/2013/03/socialmv3.html

 Summary: It's not just the individual services. Each of us has different 
 roles in life. Pinterest might not appeal to us as MV people but it might 
 appeal to the companies we support who wish to use it for marketing. And 
 while you might not want to tweet about your MV epiphanies, in the broad 
 landscape of social media there are many APIs (web services) for extracting 
 data into your MV system, and publishing data from your MV system. As 
 professionals and business people, ignoring this can be a strategic mistake.

 Thanks for the ongoing inspiration.
 T

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Re: [U2] Social Networks for MV

2013-03-28 Thread Tony Gravagno
Oh dear, you gentlemen seem to have coerced another blog out of me in
response to your comments. :) Really, I'm just trying to keep my
content in one place so that others can see the common message.
http://Nebula-RnD.com/blog/tech/mv/2013/03/socialmv4.html

 From: Robert Houben 
 If you are consumer oriented, you may need to assign more resources
 to managing the activity on a Facebook page, but then you'll
probably
 get more value from it, too.  Note that we are a very small B2B
 company, but in my opinion, the effort I've put into social media
has
 been hugely rewarded.

Follow-up for Bill : You provide property management companies with
software to manage properties. As I understand it, your browser-based
app accepts requests from residents which are then scheduled for
handling. Consider that in your business you could offer an option for
the system to send a tweet to a resident when their lights are fixed
or when the garage is unavailable. This is how people use these
services now - it's often very pragmatic and not social in the
least.

Consistent with my messages here - don't just look at these media with
a subjective/personal view. Your clients could be willing to pay for
integration with social media. But as many of us with decades of
experience here know, end-users won't ask their Pick developers for a
lot because they generally don't expect that  they will get what they
want. So offer it up. See what happens. If nothing else, just the fact
that you're offering to integrate with social media puts you in a
different category from traditional Pick developers and application
providers.

HTH
T

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