Re: [U2] UniVerse 10.3 with Domain Controller Failure
Local login script on Universe is doing something funky. Try to connect using the Universe Shell application directly on the UV server in the computer room, not locally from your PC -Original Message- From: David Wolverton dwolv...@flash.net To: 'U2 Users List' u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Thu, Sep 15, 2011 9:51 am Subject: [U2] UniVerse 10.3 with Domain Controller Failure The domain controller failed. The Backup took over. Universe 10.3 appears to hang on login - just dead. UniData on the same site (on another server) hangs for a moment and complains', but completes the login and runs correctly - so it appears that t 'finds' the backup controller. What's the story with UniVerse? One other piece: There are TWO BDCs, the UniVerse box appears to look at ne (as do other machines) while the UniData box looks at another (as do ther machines there) -- UniData and UniVerse are the ONLY applications hrowing issues right now -- all other items (SQL Server, Great Plains, etc) eem to be humming along. Thoughts appreciated! __ 2-Users mailing list 2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org ttp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] UniVerse 10.3 with Domain Controller Failure
If I log into the actual server after logging in as a LOCAL user, the UV Shell starts up. If I log into the actual server after logging in as a DOMAIN user, the UV Shell just hangs. This is after MANY reboots, so I know the UniVerse services are cleanly restarted. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 11:57 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse 10.3 with Domain Controller Failure Local login script on Universe is doing something funky. Try to connect using the Universe Shell application directly on the UV server in the computer room, not locally from your PC -Original Message- From: David Wolverton dwolv...@flash.net To: 'U2 Users List' u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Thu, Sep 15, 2011 9:51 am Subject: [U2] UniVerse 10.3 with Domain Controller Failure The domain controller failed. The Backup took over. Universe 10.3 appears to hang on login - just dead. UniData on the same site (on another server) hangs for a moment and complains', but completes the login and runs correctly - so it appears that t 'finds' the backup controller. What's the story with UniVerse? One other piece: There are TWO BDCs, the UniVerse box appears to look at ne (as do other machines) while the UniData box looks at another (as do ther machines there) -- UniData and UniVerse are the ONLY applications hrowing issues right now -- all other items (SQL Server, Great Plains, etc) eem to be humming along. Thoughts appreciated! __ 2-Users mailing list 2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org ttp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] UniVerse 10.3 with Domain Controller Failure
This is a wild guess... So my disclaimer is, Try at your own risk Part of my hatred for Windows Active Directory resides with this very issue, but, I digress... I have seen servers and workstations not talk to the backup domain controller before, especially after a primary domain controller failure. SO, IF, the Primary Domain Controller has failed... and the Backup is now controlling things, and the primary is still not up and running... You might be able to do the following to fix your login issue: 1) Remove the UV server from the domain completely 2) Reboot 3) Re-join the UV server to the domain 4) Reboot 5) Check whatever UV uses (which I have no knowledge of) to login to the domain and make sure its not a hardcoded hostname pointer kind of thing to the domain controller that is not online. Like I said. A wild guess, but, I've seen it work with other servers and workstations when a Primary Domain Controller would fail and the backup would pick up. Don't ask me why... I'm not a MCSE guy. On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 1:03 PM, David Wolverton dwolv...@flash.net wrote: If I log into the actual server after logging in as a LOCAL user, the UV Shell starts up. If I log into the actual server after logging in as a DOMAIN user, the UV Shell just hangs. This is after MANY reboots, so I know the UniVerse services are cleanly restarted. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 11:57 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse 10.3 with Domain Controller Failure Local login script on Universe is doing something funky. Try to connect using the Universe Shell application directly on the UV server in the computer room, not locally from your PC -Original Message- From: David Wolverton dwolv...@flash.net To: 'U2 Users List' u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Thu, Sep 15, 2011 9:51 am Subject: [U2] UniVerse 10.3 with Domain Controller Failure The domain controller failed. The Backup took over. Universe 10.3 appears to hang on login - just dead. UniData on the same site (on another server) hangs for a moment and complains', but completes the login and runs correctly - so it appears that t 'finds' the backup controller. What's the story with UniVerse? One other piece: There are TWO BDCs, the UniVerse box appears to look at ne (as do other machines) while the UniData box looks at another (as do ther machines there) -- UniData and UniVerse are the ONLY applications hrowing issues right now -- all other items (SQL Server, Great Plains, etc) eem to be humming along. Thoughts appreciated! __ 2-Users mailing list 2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org ttp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- John Thompson ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] UniVerse 10.3 with Domain Controller Failure
See, I would suspect something like this as well, but the %LOGONSERVER% is 'up', and Great Plains running on the same server as the UniVerse server is working A-OK. (I hate the fact they have 3 different databases on this machine, but it is illustrative that it's 'only UniVerse' as both the Great Plains and the Oracle databases are running without a glitch since the failover, so I'm looking at what I can do to 'fix' Universe.) -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of John Thompson Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 12:11 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse 10.3 with Domain Controller Failure This is a wild guess... So my disclaimer is, Try at your own risk Part of my hatred for Windows Active Directory resides with this very issue, but, I digress... I have seen servers and workstations not talk to the backup domain controller before, especially after a primary domain controller failure. SO, IF, the Primary Domain Controller has failed... and the Backup is now controlling things, and the primary is still not up and running... You might be able to do the following to fix your login issue: 1) Remove the UV server from the domain completely 2) Reboot 3) Re-join the UV server to the domain 4) Reboot 5) Check whatever UV uses (which I have no knowledge of) to login to the domain and make sure its not a hardcoded hostname pointer kind of thing to the domain controller that is not online. Like I said. A wild guess, but, I've seen it work with other servers and workstations when a Primary Domain Controller would fail and the backup would pick up. Don't ask me why... I'm not a MCSE guy. On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 1:03 PM, David Wolverton dwolv...@flash.net wrote: If I log into the actual server after logging in as a LOCAL user, the UV Shell starts up. If I log into the actual server after logging in as a DOMAIN user, the UV Shell just hangs. This is after MANY reboots, so I know the UniVerse services are cleanly restarted. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 11:57 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse 10.3 with Domain Controller Failure Local login script on Universe is doing something funky. Try to connect using the Universe Shell application directly on the UV server in the computer room, not locally from your PC -Original Message- From: David Wolverton dwolv...@flash.net To: 'U2 Users List' u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Thu, Sep 15, 2011 9:51 am Subject: [U2] UniVerse 10.3 with Domain Controller Failure The domain controller failed. The Backup took over. Universe 10.3 appears to hang on login - just dead. UniData on the same site (on another server) hangs for a moment and complains', but completes the login and runs correctly - so it appears that t 'finds' the backup controller. What's the story with UniVerse? One other piece: There are TWO BDCs, the UniVerse box appears to look at ne (as do other machines) while the UniData box looks at another (as do ther machines there) -- UniData and UniVerse are the ONLY applications hrowing issues right now -- all other items (SQL Server, Great Plains, etc) eem to be humming along. Thoughts appreciated! __ 2-Users mailing list 2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org ttp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- John Thompson ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] UniVerse 10.3 with Domain Controller Failure
Perhaps the Domain Controller that failed also had DNS running on it? Perhaps its a DNS issue... you say one Unidata server takes a while and finally logs in... Another shot in the dark. On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 1:15 PM, David Wolverton dwolv...@flash.net wrote: See, I would suspect something like this as well, but the %LOGONSERVER% is 'up', and Great Plains running on the same server as the UniVerse server is working A-OK. (I hate the fact they have 3 different databases on this machine, but it is illustrative that it's 'only UniVerse' as both the Great Plains and the Oracle databases are running without a glitch since the failover, so I'm looking at what I can do to 'fix' Universe.) -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of John Thompson Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 12:11 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse 10.3 with Domain Controller Failure This is a wild guess... So my disclaimer is, Try at your own risk Part of my hatred for Windows Active Directory resides with this very issue, but, I digress... I have seen servers and workstations not talk to the backup domain controller before, especially after a primary domain controller failure. SO, IF, the Primary Domain Controller has failed... and the Backup is now controlling things, and the primary is still not up and running... You might be able to do the following to fix your login issue: 1) Remove the UV server from the domain completely 2) Reboot 3) Re-join the UV server to the domain 4) Reboot 5) Check whatever UV uses (which I have no knowledge of) to login to the domain and make sure its not a hardcoded hostname pointer kind of thing to the domain controller that is not online. Like I said. A wild guess, but, I've seen it work with other servers and workstations when a Primary Domain Controller would fail and the backup would pick up. Don't ask me why... I'm not a MCSE guy. On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 1:03 PM, David Wolverton dwolv...@flash.net wrote: If I log into the actual server after logging in as a LOCAL user, the UV Shell starts up. If I log into the actual server after logging in as a DOMAIN user, the UV Shell just hangs. This is after MANY reboots, so I know the UniVerse services are cleanly restarted. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 11:57 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse 10.3 with Domain Controller Failure Local login script on Universe is doing something funky. Try to connect using the Universe Shell application directly on the UV server in the computer room, not locally from your PC -Original Message- From: David Wolverton dwolv...@flash.net To: 'U2 Users List' u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Thu, Sep 15, 2011 9:51 am Subject: [U2] UniVerse 10.3 with Domain Controller Failure The domain controller failed. The Backup took over. Universe 10.3 appears to hang on login - just dead. UniData on the same site (on another server) hangs for a moment and complains', but completes the login and runs correctly - so it appears that t 'finds' the backup controller. What's the story with UniVerse? One other piece: There are TWO BDCs, the UniVerse box appears to look at ne (as do other machines) while the UniData box looks at another (as do ther machines there) -- UniData and UniVerse are the ONLY applications hrowing issues right now -- all other items (SQL Server, Great Plains, etc) eem to be humming along. Thoughts appreciated! __ 2-Users mailing list 2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org ttp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- John Thompson ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- John Thompson ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] UniVerse 10.3 with Domain Controller Failure
What exactly do you mean by the statement that uvshell hangs Do you mean it opens the uvshell application but will not give you any message at all? so its just a blank gray screen? Or do you mean it won't even open the application window? If you can run uvshell as a local user, can you LISTU to see if the default background processes are running? I mean the uvdlock, the phantom processer, the console, etc -Original Message- From: John Thompson jthompson...@gmail.com To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Thu, Sep 15, 2011 10:19 am Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse 10.3 with Domain Controller Failure Perhaps the Domain Controller that failed also had DNS running on it? Perhaps its a DNS issue... you say one Unidata server takes a while and inally logs in... Another shot in the dark. On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 1:15 PM, David Wolverton dwolv...@flash.net wrote: See, I would suspect something like this as well, but the %LOGONSERVER% is 'up', and Great Plains running on the same server as the UniVerse server is working A-OK. (I hate the fact they have 3 different databases on this machine, but it is illustrative that it's 'only UniVerse' as both the Great Plains and the Oracle databases are running without a glitch since the failover, so I'm looking at what I can do to 'fix' Universe.) -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of John Thompson Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 12:11 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse 10.3 with Domain Controller Failure This is a wild guess... So my disclaimer is, Try at your own risk Part of my hatred for Windows Active Directory resides with this very issue, but, I digress... I have seen servers and workstations not talk to the backup domain controller before, especially after a primary domain controller failure. SO, IF, the Primary Domain Controller has failed... and the Backup is now controlling things, and the primary is still not up and running... You might be able to do the following to fix your login issue: 1) Remove the UV server from the domain completely 2) Reboot 3) Re-join the UV server to the domain 4) Reboot 5) Check whatever UV uses (which I have no knowledge of) to login to the domain and make sure its not a hardcoded hostname pointer kind of thing to the domain controller that is not online. Like I said. A wild guess, but, I've seen it work with other servers and workstations when a Primary Domain Controller would fail and the backup would pick up. Don't ask me why... I'm not a MCSE guy. On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 1:03 PM, David Wolverton dwolv...@flash.net wrote: If I log into the actual server after logging in as a LOCAL user, the UV Shell starts up. If I log into the actual server after logging in as a DOMAIN user, the UV Shell just hangs. This is after MANY reboots, so I know the UniVerse services are cleanly restarted. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 11:57 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse 10.3 with Domain Controller Failure Local login script on Universe is doing something funky. Try to connect using the Universe Shell application directly on the UV server in the computer room, not locally from your PC -Original Message- From: David Wolverton dwolv...@flash.net To: 'U2 Users List' u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Thu, Sep 15, 2011 9:51 am Subject: [U2] UniVerse 10.3 with Domain Controller Failure The domain controller failed. The Backup took over. Universe 10.3 appears to hang on login - just dead. UniData on the same site (on another server) hangs for a moment and complains', but completes the login and runs correctly - so it appears that t 'finds' the backup controller. What's the story with UniVerse? One other piece: There are TWO BDCs, the UniVerse box appears to look at ne (as do other machines) while the UniData box looks at another (as do ther machines there) -- UniData and UniVerse are the ONLY applications hrowing issues right now -- all other items (SQL Server, Great Plains, etc) eem to be humming along. Thoughts appreciated! __ 2-Users mailing list 2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org ttp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- John Thompson ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users
Re: [U2] UniVerse 10.3 with Domain Controller Failure
Correct -- the screen opens and what you would normally see next is the UniVerse 'banner' - the cursor just blinks... Nothing. But the 'shell screen' is 'open' and 'trying' to connect. And for DNS -- if the other applications were 'dead' as well on the machine, again, I'd suspect something 'outside' -- But it's sounding more like a Rocket support call than anything, so may have to ask the vendor to see what they say. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 12:29 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse 10.3 with Domain Controller Failure What exactly do you mean by the statement that uvshell hangs Do you mean it opens the uvshell application but will not give you any message at all? so its just a blank gray screen? Or do you mean it won't even open the application window? If you can run uvshell as a local user, can you LISTU to see if the default background processes are running? I mean the uvdlock, the phantom processer, the console, etc -Original Message- From: John Thompson jthompson...@gmail.com To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Thu, Sep 15, 2011 10:19 am Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse 10.3 with Domain Controller Failure Perhaps the Domain Controller that failed also had DNS running on it? Perhaps its a DNS issue... you say one Unidata server takes a while and inally logs in... Another shot in the dark. On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 1:15 PM, David Wolverton dwolv...@flash.net wrote: See, I would suspect something like this as well, but the %LOGONSERVER% is 'up', and Great Plains running on the same server as the UniVerse server is working A-OK. (I hate the fact they have 3 different databases on this machine, but it is illustrative that it's 'only UniVerse' as both the Great Plains and the Oracle databases are running without a glitch since the failover, so I'm looking at what I can do to 'fix' Universe.) -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of John Thompson Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 12:11 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse 10.3 with Domain Controller Failure This is a wild guess... So my disclaimer is, Try at your own risk Part of my hatred for Windows Active Directory resides with this very issue, but, I digress... I have seen servers and workstations not talk to the backup domain controller before, especially after a primary domain controller failure. SO, IF, the Primary Domain Controller has failed... and the Backup is now controlling things, and the primary is still not up and running... You might be able to do the following to fix your login issue: 1) Remove the UV server from the domain completely 2) Reboot 3) Re-join the UV server to the domain 4) Reboot 5) Check whatever UV uses (which I have no knowledge of) to login to the domain and make sure its not a hardcoded hostname pointer kind of thing to the domain controller that is not online. Like I said. A wild guess, but, I've seen it work with other servers and workstations when a Primary Domain Controller would fail and the backup would pick up. Don't ask me why... I'm not a MCSE guy. On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 1:03 PM, David Wolverton dwolv...@flash.net wrote: If I log into the actual server after logging in as a LOCAL user, the UV Shell starts up. If I log into the actual server after logging in as a DOMAIN user, the UV Shell just hangs. This is after MANY reboots, so I know the UniVerse services are cleanly restarted. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 11:57 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse 10.3 with Domain Controller Failure Local login script on Universe is doing something funky. Try to connect using the Universe Shell application directly on the UV server in the computer room, not locally from your PC -Original Message- From: David Wolverton dwolv...@flash.net To: 'U2 Users List' u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Thu, Sep 15, 2011 9:51 am Subject: [U2] UniVerse 10.3 with Domain Controller Failure The domain controller failed. The Backup took over. Universe 10.3 appears to hang on login - just dead. UniData on the same site (on another server) hangs for a moment and complains', but completes the login and runs correctly - so it appears that t 'finds' the backup controller. What's the story with UniVerse? One other piece: There are TWO BDCs, the UniVerse box appears to look at ne (as do other machines) while the UniData box looks at another (as do ther machines there) -- UniData and UniVerse are the ONLY applications hrowing issues
Re: [U2] UniVerse 10.3 with Domain Controller Failure
If you can get to TCL as a local user and cannot as a domain user, then I would suggest a permissions setting is wrong. Your domain user can't open some file that Universe is trying to open. For example uvtemp or something, who knows. The local user would most likely own all the files. But go to TCL and make sure what users are logged in. For example nine hundred sessions trying to lock the uv.accounts file. -Original Message- From: David Wolverton dwolv...@flash.net To: 'U2 Users List' u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Thu, Sep 15, 2011 11:03 am Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse 10.3 with Domain Controller Failure Correct -- the screen opens and what you would normally see next is the niVerse 'banner' - the cursor just blinks... Nothing. But the 'shell screen' is 'open' and 'trying' to connect. And for DNS -- if the other applications were 'dead' as well on the machine, gain, I'd suspect something 'outside' -- But it's sounding more like a ocket support call than anything, so may have to ask the vendor to see what hey say. -Original Message- rom: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson ent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 12:29 PM o: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org ubject: Re: [U2] UniVerse 10.3 with Domain Controller Failure hat exactly do you mean by the statement that uvshell hangs o you mean it opens the uvshell application but will not give you any essage at all? so its just a blank gray screen? r do you mean it won't even open the application window? If you can run uvshell as a local user, can you LISTU to see if the default ackground processes are running? mean the uvdlock, the phantom processer, the console, etc Original Message- rom: John Thompson jthompson...@gmail.com o: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org ent: Thu, Sep 15, 2011 10:19 am ubject: Re: [U2] UniVerse 10.3 with Domain Controller Failure erhaps the Domain Controller that failed also had DNS running on it? erhaps its a DNS issue... you say one Unidata server takes a while and nally logs in... nother shot in the dark. n Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 1:15 PM, David Wolverton dwolv...@flash.net wrote: See, I would suspect something like this as well, but the %LOGONSERVER% is 'up', and Great Plains running on the same server as the UniVerse server is working A-OK. (I hate the fact they have 3 different databases on this machine, but it is illustrative that it's 'only UniVerse' as both the Great Plains and the Oracle databases are running without a glitch since the failover, so I'm looking at what I can do to 'fix' Universe.) -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of John Thompson Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 12:11 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse 10.3 with Domain Controller Failure This is a wild guess... So my disclaimer is, Try at your own risk Part of my hatred for Windows Active Directory resides with this very issue, but, I digress... I have seen servers and workstations not talk to the backup domain controller before, especially after a primary domain controller failure. SO, IF, the Primary Domain Controller has failed... and the Backup is now controlling things, and the primary is still not up and running... You might be able to do the following to fix your login issue: 1) Remove the UV server from the domain completely 2) Reboot 3) Re-join the UV server to the domain 4) Reboot 5) Check whatever UV uses (which I have no knowledge of) to login to the domain and make sure its not a hardcoded hostname pointer kind of thing to the domain controller that is not online. Like I said. A wild guess, but, I've seen it work with other servers and workstations when a Primary Domain Controller would fail and the backup would pick up. Don't ask me why... I'm not a MCSE guy. On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 1:03 PM, David Wolverton dwolv...@flash.net wrote: If I log into the actual server after logging in as a LOCAL user, the UV Shell starts up. If I log into the actual server after logging in as a DOMAIN user, the UV Shell just hangs. This is after MANY reboots, so I know the UniVerse services are cleanly restarted. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 11:57 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse 10.3 with Domain Controller Failure Local login script on Universe is doing something funky. Try to connect using the Universe Shell application directly on the UV server in the computer room, not locally from your PC -Original Message- From: David Wolverton dwolv...@flash.net To: 'U2 Users List' u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Thu, Sep 15, 2011 9:51 am Subject: [U2] UniVerse 10.3 with Domain Controller Failure The domain controller failed
Re: [U2] UniVerse 10.3 with Domain Controller Failure
Does this version of Universe pre-date the PDC emulator fix? If not you will not be able to login to UniVerse if the database cannot access the server with the PDC Emulator FSMO role. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 1:16 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse 10.3 with Domain Controller Failure If you can get to TCL as a local user and cannot as a domain user, then I would suggest a permissions setting is wrong. Your domain user can't open some file that Universe is trying to open. For example uvtemp or something, who knows. The local user would most likely own all the files. But go to TCL and make sure what users are logged in. For example nine hundred sessions trying to lock the uv.accounts file. -Original Message- From: David Wolverton dwolv...@flash.net To: 'U2 Users List' u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Thu, Sep 15, 2011 11:03 am Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse 10.3 with Domain Controller Failure Correct -- the screen opens and what you would normally see next is the niVerse 'banner' - the cursor just blinks... Nothing. But the 'shell screen' is 'open' and 'trying' to connect. And for DNS -- if the other applications were 'dead' as well on the machine, gain, I'd suspect something 'outside' -- But it's sounding more like a ocket support call than anything, so may have to ask the vendor to see what hey say. -Original Message- rom: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson ent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 12:29 PM o: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org ubject: Re: [U2] UniVerse 10.3 with Domain Controller Failure hat exactly do you mean by the statement that uvshell hangs o you mean it opens the uvshell application but will not give you any essage at all? so its just a blank gray screen? r do you mean it won't even open the application window? If you can run uvshell as a local user, can you LISTU to see if the default ackground processes are running? mean the uvdlock, the phantom processer, the console, etc Original Message- rom: John Thompson jthompson...@gmail.com o: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org ent: Thu, Sep 15, 2011 10:19 am ubject: Re: [U2] UniVerse 10.3 with Domain Controller Failure erhaps the Domain Controller that failed also had DNS running on it? erhaps its a DNS issue... you say one Unidata server takes a while and nally logs in... nother shot in the dark. n Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 1:15 PM, David Wolverton dwolv...@flash.net wrote: See, I would suspect something like this as well, but the %LOGONSERVER% is 'up', and Great Plains running on the same server as the UniVerse server is working A-OK. (I hate the fact they have 3 different databases on this machine, but it is illustrative that it's 'only UniVerse' as both the Great Plains and the Oracle databases are running without a glitch since the failover, so I'm looking at what I can do to 'fix' Universe.) -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of John Thompson Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 12:11 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse 10.3 with Domain Controller Failure This is a wild guess... So my disclaimer is, Try at your own risk Part of my hatred for Windows Active Directory resides with this very issue, but, I digress... I have seen servers and workstations not talk to the backup domain controller before, especially after a primary domain controller failure. SO, IF, the Primary Domain Controller has failed... and the Backup is now controlling things, and the primary is still not up and running... You might be able to do the following to fix your login issue: 1) Remove the UV server from the domain completely 2) Reboot 3) Re-join the UV server to the domain 4) Reboot 5) Check whatever UV uses (which I have no knowledge of) to login to the domain and make sure its not a hardcoded hostname pointer kind of thing to the domain controller that is not online. Like I said. A wild guess, but, I've seen it work with other servers and workstations when a Primary Domain Controller would fail and the backup would pick up. Don't ask me why... I'm not a MCSE guy. On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 1:03 PM, David Wolverton dwolv...@flash.net wrote: If I log into the actual server after logging in as a LOCAL user, the UV Shell starts up. If I log into the actual server after logging in as a DOMAIN user, the UV Shell just hangs. This is after MANY reboots, so I know the UniVerse services are cleanly restarted. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 11:57 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse 10.3
Re: [U2] UniVerse 10.3 with Domain Controller Failure
And I meant to add... If the PDC emulator was on the other DC (which I would assume it is) and you can't restore it you will have to seize the fsmo role. It's pretty simple, but it's also a last resort type of a deal. Instructions are here: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc785114%28WS.10%29.aspx -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Holt, Jake Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 3:21 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse 10.3 with Domain Controller Failure Does this version of Universe pre-date the PDC emulator fix? If not you will not be able to login to UniVerse if the database cannot access the server with the PDC Emulator FSMO role. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 1:16 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse 10.3 with Domain Controller Failure If you can get to TCL as a local user and cannot as a domain user, then I would suggest a permissions setting is wrong. Your domain user can't open some file that Universe is trying to open. For example uvtemp or something, who knows. The local user would most likely own all the files. But go to TCL and make sure what users are logged in. For example nine hundred sessions trying to lock the uv.accounts file. -Original Message- From: David Wolverton dwolv...@flash.net To: 'U2 Users List' u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Thu, Sep 15, 2011 11:03 am Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse 10.3 with Domain Controller Failure Correct -- the screen opens and what you would normally see next is the niVerse 'banner' - the cursor just blinks... Nothing. But the 'shell screen' is 'open' and 'trying' to connect. And for DNS -- if the other applications were 'dead' as well on the machine, gain, I'd suspect something 'outside' -- But it's sounding more like a ocket support call than anything, so may have to ask the vendor to see what hey say. -Original Message- rom: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson ent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 12:29 PM o: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org ubject: Re: [U2] UniVerse 10.3 with Domain Controller Failure hat exactly do you mean by the statement that uvshell hangs o you mean it opens the uvshell application but will not give you any essage at all? so its just a blank gray screen? r do you mean it won't even open the application window? If you can run uvshell as a local user, can you LISTU to see if the default ackground processes are running? mean the uvdlock, the phantom processer, the console, etc Original Message- rom: John Thompson jthompson...@gmail.com o: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org ent: Thu, Sep 15, 2011 10:19 am ubject: Re: [U2] UniVerse 10.3 with Domain Controller Failure erhaps the Domain Controller that failed also had DNS running on it? erhaps its a DNS issue... you say one Unidata server takes a while and nally logs in... nother shot in the dark. n Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 1:15 PM, David Wolverton dwolv...@flash.net wrote: See, I would suspect something like this as well, but the %LOGONSERVER% is 'up', and Great Plains running on the same server as the UniVerse server is working A-OK. (I hate the fact they have 3 different databases on this machine, but it is illustrative that it's 'only UniVerse' as both the Great Plains and the Oracle databases are running without a glitch since the failover, so I'm looking at what I can do to 'fix' Universe.) -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of John Thompson Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 12:11 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse 10.3 with Domain Controller Failure This is a wild guess... So my disclaimer is, Try at your own risk Part of my hatred for Windows Active Directory resides with this very issue, but, I digress... I have seen servers and workstations not talk to the backup domain controller before, especially after a primary domain controller failure. SO, IF, the Primary Domain Controller has failed... and the Backup is now controlling things, and the primary is still not up and running... You might be able to do the following to fix your login issue: 1) Remove the UV server from the domain completely 2) Reboot 3) Re-join the UV server to the domain 4) Reboot 5) Check whatever UV uses (which I have no knowledge of) to login to the domain and make sure its not a hardcoded hostname pointer kind of thing to the domain controller that is not online. Like I said. A wild guess, but, I've seen it work with other servers and workstations when a Primary Domain Controller would fail and the backup would pick up. Don't ask me why... I'm not a MCSE guy. On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 1
Re: [U2] UniVerse 10.3 with Domain Controller Failure
Yes - I guess that is the case -- they are not on 11.1, and just got word that's where it's got fixed. The only choice under this release per the case is to cease the domain controller. I think they meant 'seize' the controller. [And I just notices that 'seize' violates the I before E rule, by the way!] So the client is going to do the 'seize' tomorrow. And then we'll load 11.1 when it's more convenient! Thanks for the thoughts here - at least I know we did everything we could and that it was actually a Rocket issue. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Holt, Jake Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 3:30 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse 10.3 with Domain Controller Failure And I meant to add... If the PDC emulator was on the other DC (which I would assume it is) and you can't restore it you will have to seize the fsmo role. It's pretty simple, but it's also a last resort type of a deal. Instructions are here: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc785114%28WS.10%29.aspx -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Holt, Jake Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 3:21 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse 10.3 with Domain Controller Failure Does this version of Universe pre-date the PDC emulator fix? If not you will not be able to login to UniVerse if the database cannot access the server with the PDC Emulator FSMO role. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 1:16 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse 10.3 with Domain Controller Failure If you can get to TCL as a local user and cannot as a domain user, then I would suggest a permissions setting is wrong. Your domain user can't open some file that Universe is trying to open. For example uvtemp or something, who knows. The local user would most likely own all the files. But go to TCL and make sure what users are logged in. For example nine hundred sessions trying to lock the uv.accounts file. -Original Message- From: David Wolverton dwolv...@flash.net To: 'U2 Users List' u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Thu, Sep 15, 2011 11:03 am Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse 10.3 with Domain Controller Failure Correct -- the screen opens and what you would normally see next is the niVerse 'banner' - the cursor just blinks... Nothing. But the 'shell screen' is 'open' and 'trying' to connect. And for DNS -- if the other applications were 'dead' as well on the machine, gain, I'd suspect something 'outside' -- But it's sounding more like a ocket support call than anything, so may have to ask the vendor to see what hey say. -Original Message- rom: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson ent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 12:29 PM o: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org ubject: Re: [U2] UniVerse 10.3 with Domain Controller Failure hat exactly do you mean by the statement that uvshell hangs o you mean it opens the uvshell application but will not give you any essage at all? so its just a blank gray screen? r do you mean it won't even open the application window? If you can run uvshell as a local user, can you LISTU to see if the default ackground processes are running? mean the uvdlock, the phantom processer, the console, etc Original Message- rom: John Thompson jthompson...@gmail.com o: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org ent: Thu, Sep 15, 2011 10:19 am ubject: Re: [U2] UniVerse 10.3 with Domain Controller Failure erhaps the Domain Controller that failed also had DNS running on it? erhaps its a DNS issue... you say one Unidata server takes a while and nally logs in... nother shot in the dark. n Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 1:15 PM, David Wolverton dwolv...@flash.net wrote: See, I would suspect something like this as well, but the %LOGONSERVER% is 'up', and Great Plains running on the same server as the UniVerse server is working A-OK. (I hate the fact they have 3 different databases on this machine, but it is illustrative that it's 'only UniVerse' as both the Great Plains and the Oracle databases are running without a glitch since the failover, so I'm looking at what I can do to 'fix' Universe.) -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of John Thompson Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 12:11 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse 10.3 with Domain Controller Failure This is a wild guess... So my disclaimer is, Try at your own risk Part of my hatred for Windows Active Directory resides with this very issue, but, I digress... I have seen servers and workstations not talk to the backup domain controller before
