Re: [U2] Intergration of an existing file?

2011-06-21 Thread Greg Coelho
Hi guys,

Quick question: I've got a custom Unidata file that my system does not 
recognize.  The file is a HASH Type 0 - which should be compatible with 
the system...  Any suggestions what I might try to get the system to 
recognize this file or to do a CREATE.FILE and COPY and end up with a 
recognizable file?

As always - Thanks!

Greg
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Re: [U2] Intergration of an existing file?

2011-06-21 Thread Glorfield, Gordon
What do you mean your system does not recognize the file?  Do you mean 
UniData doesn't recognize it?  Is there a VOC item pointing to the file?

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Subject: Re: [U2] Intergration of an existing file?

Hi guys,

Quick question: I've got a custom Unidata file that my system does not 
recognize.  The file is a HASH Type 0 - which should be compatible with 
the system...  Any suggestions what I might try to get the system to 
recognize this file or to do a CREATE.FILE and COPY and end up with a 
recognizable file?

As always - Thanks!

Greg
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Re: [U2] Intergration of an existing file?

2011-06-21 Thread Greg Coelho
Gordon,

Thanks for getting back...

I am using a proprietary version of Unidata (Envision).  The VOC can see 
the file:

:ELE VOC A26.CHECKS.RECON  
3 lines long.  
  
: P  
0001: F  
0002: DATA/DATA_X/A26.CHECKS.RECON  
0003: DATA/DATA_X/D_A26.CHECKS.RECON  
Bottom at line 3.  
: 

But the 'System' cannot.  I've tried to replicate the file by building one 
within the system which the system does recognize.

:ELE VOC A26.CHECK.RECON  
3 lines long.  
  
: P  
0001: F  
0002: A26.CHECK.RECON  
0003: D_A26.CHECK.RECON  
Bottom at line 3.  
: 

But when I attempt to copy data to this file I cannot access the data 
through the system.  I can AE and pull data no problem, but I cannot use 
the Envision Line Editor (ELE) to access the data.  I realize that I'll 
need to get this file back into position (DATA/DATA_X) but am uncertain 
how to do this and not wind up with another file that I can't read.  I 
created this file using the file creation tool provided and am unable to 
COPY FROM DICT A26.CHECKS.RECON TO DICT A26.CHECK.RECON ALL.  I can to a 
straight COPY FROM A26.CHECKS.RECON TO A26.CHECK.RECON ALL - but this 
results in an unusable file.  Any suggestion would be greatly appreciated.

Greg



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Date:   06/21/2011 03:47 PM
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What do you mean your system does not recognize the file?  Do you mean 
UniData doesn't recognize it?  Is there a VOC item pointing to the file?

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Subject: Re: [U2] Intergration of an existing file?

Hi guys,

Quick question: I've got a custom Unidata file that my system does not 
recognize.  The file is a HASH Type 0 - which should be compatible with 
the system...  Any suggestions what I might try to get the system to 
recognize this file or to do a CREATE.FILE and COPY and end up with a 
recognizable file?

As always - Thanks!

Greg
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Re: [U2] Intergration of an existing file?

2011-06-21 Thread Israel, John R.
Are the two files in the same account?  If not, can you move your new file to 
the same place as the old file and add the extra:
 DATA/DATA_X/
to the VOC to see what happens?


John Israel
Senior Programmer/Analyst
Dayton Superior Corporation
1125 Byers Road
Miamisburg, OH  45342

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Subject: Re: [U2] Intergration of an existing file?

Gordon,

Thanks for getting back...

I am using a proprietary version of Unidata (Envision).  The VOC can see 
the file:

:ELE VOC A26.CHECKS.RECON  
3 lines long.  
  
: P  
0001: F  
0002: DATA/DATA_X/A26.CHECKS.RECON  
0003: DATA/DATA_X/D_A26.CHECKS.RECON  
Bottom at line 3.  
: 

But the 'System' cannot.  I've tried to replicate the file by building one 
within the system which the system does recognize.

:ELE VOC A26.CHECK.RECON  
3 lines long.  
  
: P  
0001: F  
0002: A26.CHECK.RECON  
0003: D_A26.CHECK.RECON  
Bottom at line 3.  
: 

But when I attempt to copy data to this file I cannot access the data 
through the system.  I can AE and pull data no problem, but I cannot use 
the Envision Line Editor (ELE) to access the data.  I realize that I'll 
need to get this file back into position (DATA/DATA_X) but am uncertain 
how to do this and not wind up with another file that I can't read.  I 
created this file using the file creation tool provided and am unable to 
COPY FROM DICT A26.CHECKS.RECON TO DICT A26.CHECK.RECON ALL.  I can to a 
straight COPY FROM A26.CHECKS.RECON TO A26.CHECK.RECON ALL - but this 
results in an unusable file.  Any suggestion would be greatly appreciated.

Greg



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Date:   06/21/2011 03:47 PM
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What do you mean your system does not recognize the file?  Do you mean 
UniData doesn't recognize it?  Is there a VOC item pointing to the file?

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mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Greg Coelho
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 3:44 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] Intergration of an existing file?

Hi guys,

Quick question: I've got a custom Unidata file that my system does not 
recognize.  The file is a HASH Type 0 - which should be compatible with 
the system...  Any suggestions what I might try to get the system to 
recognize this file or to do a CREATE.FILE and COPY and end up with a 
recognizable file?

As always - Thanks!

Greg
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Re: [U2] Intergration of an existing file?

2011-06-21 Thread George Gallen
jUST a shot...

Try:

0001: F
0002: DATA/DATA_X/A26.CHECKS.RECON
0003: D_VOC

I'm guessing when you put the data file into DATA_X, there
isn't a file called D_A26.CHECKS.RECON that you put there too.

George

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 From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-
 boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Greg Coelho
 Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 4:17 PM
 To: U2 Users List
 Subject: Re: [U2] Intergration of an existing file?
 
 Gordon,
 
 Thanks for getting back...
 
 I am using a proprietary version of Unidata (Envision).  The VOC can
 see
 the file:
 
 :ELE VOC A26.CHECKS.RECON
 3 lines long.
 
 : P
 0001: F
 0002: DATA/DATA_X/A26.CHECKS.RECON
 0003: DATA/DATA_X/D_A26.CHECKS.RECON
 Bottom at line 3.
 :
 
 But the 'System' cannot.  I've tried to replicate the file by building
 one
 within the system which the system does recognize.
 
 :ELE VOC A26.CHECK.RECON
 3 lines long.
 
 : P
 0001: F
 0002: A26.CHECK.RECON
 0003: D_A26.CHECK.RECON
 Bottom at line 3.
 :
 
 But when I attempt to copy data to this file I cannot access the data
 through the system.  I can AE and pull data no problem, but I cannot
 use
 the Envision Line Editor (ELE) to access the data.  I realize that I'll
 need to get this file back into position (DATA/DATA_X) but am uncertain
 how to do this and not wind up with another file that I can't read.  I
 created this file using the file creation tool provided and am unable
 to
 COPY FROM DICT A26.CHECKS.RECON TO DICT A26.CHECK.RECON ALL.  I can to
 a
 straight COPY FROM A26.CHECKS.RECON TO A26.CHECK.RECON ALL - but this
 results in an unusable file.  Any suggestion would be greatly
 appreciated.
 
 Greg
 
 
 
 From:   Glorfield, Gordon gglorfi...@vertisinc.com
 To: 'U2 Users List' u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Date:   06/21/2011 03:47 PM
 Subject:Re: [U2] Intergration of an existing file?
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 What do you mean your system does not recognize the file?  Do you
 mean
 UniData doesn't recognize it?  Is there a VOC item pointing to the
 file?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [
 mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Greg Coelho
 Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 3:44 PM
 To: U2 Users List
 Subject: Re: [U2] Intergration of an existing file?
 
 Hi guys,
 
 Quick question: I've got a custom Unidata file that my system does not
 recognize.  The file is a HASH Type 0 - which should be compatible with
 the system...  Any suggestions what I might try to get the system to
 recognize this file or to do a CREATE.FILE and COPY and end up with a
 recognizable file?
 
 As always - Thanks!
 
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Re: [U2] Intergration of an existing file?

2011-06-21 Thread Bob Woodward
So your definition of unusable is incorrect.  You just can't use your
ELE editor on it.  The word proprietary kind of comes up as a possible
reason for limitations.  If you can edit the data using AE, it has
nothing to do with Unidata's ability to access the file.  Talk to the
Envision support and see what they say.  I'd bet that there is a reason
you can't edit this file, just from the name of it.  But that's just a
guess, though.

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From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Greg Coelho
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 1:17 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] Intergration of an existing file?

Gordon,

Thanks for getting back...

I am using a proprietary version of Unidata (Envision).  The VOC can see

the file:

:ELE VOC A26.CHECKS.RECON  
3 lines long.  
  
: P  
0001: F  
0002: DATA/DATA_X/A26.CHECKS.RECON  
0003: DATA/DATA_X/D_A26.CHECKS.RECON  
Bottom at line 3.  
: 

But the 'System' cannot.  I've tried to replicate the file by building
one 
within the system which the system does recognize.

:ELE VOC A26.CHECK.RECON  
3 lines long.  
  
: P  
0001: F  
0002: A26.CHECK.RECON  
0003: D_A26.CHECK.RECON  
Bottom at line 3.  
: 

But when I attempt to copy data to this file I cannot access the data 
through the system.  I can AE and pull data no problem, but I cannot use

the Envision Line Editor (ELE) to access the data.  I realize that I'll 
need to get this file back into position (DATA/DATA_X) but am uncertain 
how to do this and not wind up with another file that I can't read.  I 
created this file using the file creation tool provided and am unable to

COPY FROM DICT A26.CHECKS.RECON TO DICT A26.CHECK.RECON ALL.  I can to a

straight COPY FROM A26.CHECKS.RECON TO A26.CHECK.RECON ALL - but this 
results in an unusable file.  Any suggestion would be greatly
appreciated.

Greg



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Date:   06/21/2011 03:47 PM
Subject:Re: [U2] Intergration of an existing file?
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What do you mean your system does not recognize the file?  Do you mean

UniData doesn't recognize it?  Is there a VOC item pointing to the file?

-Original Message-
From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [
mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Greg Coelho
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 3:44 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] Intergration of an existing file?

Hi guys,

Quick question: I've got a custom Unidata file that my system does not 
recognize.  The file is a HASH Type 0 - which should be compatible with 
the system...  Any suggestions what I might try to get the system to 
recognize this file or to do a CREATE.FILE and COPY and end up with a 
recognizable file?

As always - Thanks!

Greg
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Re: [U2] Intergration of an existing file?

2011-06-21 Thread Greg Coelho
Bob,

Yep, you are correct - this is all about Envision.  As Jeff Butera 
mentioned - there is no simple way to do this.  I've gotten a couple of 
suggestions - I'll give them a shot.

Thanks,

Greg



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Date:   06/21/2011 04:43 PM
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So your definition of unusable is incorrect.  You just can't use your
ELE editor on it.  The word proprietary kind of comes up as a possible
reason for limitations.  If you can edit the data using AE, it has
nothing to do with Unidata's ability to access the file.  Talk to the
Envision support and see what they say.  I'd bet that there is a reason
you can't edit this file, just from the name of it.  But that's just a
guess, though.

-Original Message-
From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Greg Coelho
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 1:17 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] Intergration of an existing file?

Gordon,

Thanks for getting back...

I am using a proprietary version of Unidata (Envision).  The VOC can see

the file:

:ELE VOC A26.CHECKS.RECON 
3 lines long. 
 
: P 
0001: F 
0002: DATA/DATA_X/A26.CHECKS.RECON 
0003: DATA/DATA_X/D_A26.CHECKS.RECON 
Bottom at line 3. 
: 

But the 'System' cannot.  I've tried to replicate the file by building
one 
within the system which the system does recognize.

:ELE VOC A26.CHECK.RECON 
3 lines long. 
 
: P 
0001: F 
0002: A26.CHECK.RECON 
0003: D_A26.CHECK.RECON 
Bottom at line 3. 
: 

But when I attempt to copy data to this file I cannot access the data 
through the system.  I can AE and pull data no problem, but I cannot use

the Envision Line Editor (ELE) to access the data.  I realize that I'll 
need to get this file back into position (DATA/DATA_X) but am uncertain 
how to do this and not wind up with another file that I can't read.  I 
created this file using the file creation tool provided and am unable to

COPY FROM DICT A26.CHECKS.RECON TO DICT A26.CHECK.RECON ALL.  I can to a

straight COPY FROM A26.CHECKS.RECON TO A26.CHECK.RECON ALL - but this 
results in an unusable file.  Any suggestion would be greatly
appreciated.

Greg



From:   Glorfield, Gordon gglorfi...@vertisinc.com
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Date:   06/21/2011 03:47 PM
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What do you mean your system does not recognize the file?  Do you mean

UniData doesn't recognize it?  Is there a VOC item pointing to the file?

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mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Greg Coelho
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 3:44 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] Intergration of an existing file?

Hi guys,

Quick question: I've got a custom Unidata file that my system does not 
recognize.  The file is a HASH Type 0 - which should be compatible with 
the system...  Any suggestions what I might try to get the system to 
recognize this file or to do a CREATE.FILE and COPY and end up with a 
recognizable file?

As always - Thanks!

Greg
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