[U2] OT - Pick mentioned in letter to the editor... [not-secure]

2008-07-08 Thread Hennessey, Mark F.
This appeared in the letters to the editor section of the July 1
Software Development Times



HIS PICK FOR AN OS IS CLEAR



I read your article about virtualization (Virtualization 3.0, May 15,
page 25, or http://tinyurl.com/5j4dnc) with some amusement. I am an old
Pick database programmer, and Pick has done virtualization since the
1970s.



The Pick OS will load and run on just about any platform, including
Microsoft's. It uses built-in tools to create one of the easiest-to-use
and most versatile 3D relational database models on the market. Yet, it
never merits mention in any of the mainstream media periodicals.



Just about every buzzword and acronym you guys punch out every month,
Pick has been doing since bell-bottoms and afro hairdos were in style.
All the techno-weenies out there owe a great deal of what's happening in
their careers to this venerable OS, yet I'll bet less than 5% have ever
heard of it.



Had Dick Pick not passed away in the mid-1990s, things might have been
different today. But wherever you find a Pickie out there, they'll tell
you that they wouldn't trade their legacy system for all the whiz-bang
buzzword-laden toys in the world. So how about a nod to the good old
days once in awhile?



Gary Lass Wilsonville, Ore.







Mark Hennessey

State of Connecticut

Department of Social Services

Information Technology Services

Child Support Systems

Voice: 860-424-5261

Fax: 860-424-4813
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Re: [U2] OT - Pick mentioned in letter to the editor... [not-secure]

2008-07-08 Thread George Land
Interesting, it's a shame that what he says isn't really true.

George

On 08/07/2008 19:59, Hennessey, Mark F. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This appeared in the letters to the editor section of the July 1
 Software Development Times
 
 
 
 HIS PICK FOR AN OS IS CLEAR
 
 
 
 I read your article about virtualization (Virtualization 3.0, May 15,
 page 25, or http://tinyurl.com/5j4dnc) with some amusement. I am an old
 Pick database programmer, and Pick has done virtualization since the
 1970s.
 
 
 
 The Pick OS will load and run on just about any platform, including
 Microsoft's. It uses built-in tools to create one of the easiest-to-use
 and most versatile 3D relational database models on the market. Yet, it
 never merits mention in any of the mainstream media periodicals.
 
 
 
 Just about every buzzword and acronym you guys punch out every month,
 Pick has been doing since bell-bottoms and afro hairdos were in style.
 All the techno-weenies out there owe a great deal of what's happening in
 their careers to this venerable OS, yet I'll bet less than 5% have ever
 heard of it.
 
 
 
 Had Dick Pick not passed away in the mid-1990s, things might have been
 different today. But wherever you find a Pickie out there, they'll tell
 you that they wouldn't trade their legacy system for all the whiz-bang
 buzzword-laden toys in the world. So how about a nod to the good old
 days once in awhile?
 
 
 
 Gary Lass Wilsonville, Ore.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Mark Hennessey
 
 State of Connecticut
 
 Department of Social Services
 
 Information Technology Services
 
 Child Support Systems
 
 Voice: 860-424-5261
 
 Fax: 860-424-4813
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RE: [U2] OT - Pick mentioned in letter to the editor... [not-secure]

2008-07-08 Thread Bessel, Karen
LOL I agree. He should speak for himself.

I'd trade my legacy software developer job for a data
warehousing/business intelligence/database developer job tomorrow.





Karen Bessel
Software Developer

Tyler Technologies, Inc.
6500 International Parkway, Suite 2000
Plano, TX 75093
Phone: 972.713.3770 ext:6227
Fax: 972.713.3777 
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Land
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 2:19 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] OT - Pick mentioned in letter to the editor...
[not-secure]

Interesting, it's a shame that what he says isn't really true.

George

On 08/07/2008 19:59, Hennessey, Mark F. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This appeared in the letters to the editor section of the July 1
 Software Development Times
 
 
 
 HIS PICK FOR AN OS IS CLEAR
 
 
 
 I read your article about virtualization (Virtualization 3.0, May
15,
 page 25, or http://tinyurl.com/5j4dnc) with some amusement. I am an
old
 Pick database programmer, and Pick has done virtualization since the
 1970s.
 
 
 
 The Pick OS will load and run on just about any platform, including
 Microsoft's. It uses built-in tools to create one of the
easiest-to-use
 and most versatile 3D relational database models on the market. Yet,
it
 never merits mention in any of the mainstream media periodicals.
 
 
 
 Just about every buzzword and acronym you guys punch out every month,
 Pick has been doing since bell-bottoms and afro hairdos were in style.
 All the techno-weenies out there owe a great deal of what's happening
in
 their careers to this venerable OS, yet I'll bet less than 5% have
ever
 heard of it.
 
 
 
 Had Dick Pick not passed away in the mid-1990s, things might have been
 different today. But wherever you find a Pickie out there, they'll
tell
 you that they wouldn't trade their legacy system for all the
whiz-bang
 buzzword-laden toys in the world. So how about a nod to the good old
 days once in awhile?
 
 
 
 Gary Lass Wilsonville, Ore.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Mark Hennessey
 
 State of Connecticut
 
 Department of Social Services
 
 Information Technology Services
 
 Child Support Systems
 
 Voice: 860-424-5261
 
 Fax: 860-424-4813
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RE: [U2] OT - Pick mentioned in letter to the editor... [not-secure]

2008-07-08 Thread JPB-U2UG
Karen,
Aren't you already doing those jobs on U2?
Jerry

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bessel, Karen
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 3:29 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] OT - Pick mentioned in letter to the editor...
[not-secure]

LOL I agree. He should speak for himself.

I'd trade my legacy software developer job for a data
warehousing/business intelligence/database developer job tomorrow.





Karen Bessel
Software Developer

Tyler Technologies, Inc.
6500 International Parkway, Suite 2000
Plano, TX 75093
Phone: 972.713.3770 ext:6227
Fax: 972.713.3777 
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web: http://www.tylertech.com
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Land
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 2:19 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] OT - Pick mentioned in letter to the editor...
[not-secure]

Interesting, it's a shame that what he says isn't really true.

George

On 08/07/2008 19:59, Hennessey, Mark F. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This appeared in the letters to the editor section of the July 1
 Software Development Times
 
 
 
 HIS PICK FOR AN OS IS CLEAR
 
 
 
 I read your article about virtualization (Virtualization 3.0, May
15,
 page 25, or http://tinyurl.com/5j4dnc) with some amusement. I am an
old
 Pick database programmer, and Pick has done virtualization since the
 1970s.
 
 
 
 The Pick OS will load and run on just about any platform, including
 Microsoft's. It uses built-in tools to create one of the
easiest-to-use
 and most versatile 3D relational database models on the market. Yet,
it
 never merits mention in any of the mainstream media periodicals.
 
 
 
 Just about every buzzword and acronym you guys punch out every month,
 Pick has been doing since bell-bottoms and afro hairdos were in style.
 All the techno-weenies out there owe a great deal of what's happening
in
 their careers to this venerable OS, yet I'll bet less than 5% have
ever
 heard of it.
 
 
 
 Had Dick Pick not passed away in the mid-1990s, things might have been
 different today. But wherever you find a Pickie out there, they'll
tell
 you that they wouldn't trade their legacy system for all the
whiz-bang
 buzzword-laden toys in the world. So how about a nod to the good old
 days once in awhile?
 
 
 
 Gary Lass Wilsonville, Ore.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Mark Hennessey
 
 State of Connecticut
 
 Department of Social Services
 
 Information Technology Services
 
 Child Support Systems
 
 Voice: 860-424-5261
 
 Fax: 860-424-4813
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RE: [U2] OT - Pick mentioned in letter to the editor... [not-secure]

2008-07-08 Thread Baker Hughes
It was virtually accurate, IMHO.  %-)

I sympathize with Karen. This is why we offered 3 new technologies at the 
recent Texmug meeting:
XML, Imaging  MV, and the new object enabled MV database - OpenQM.

We must add new tools to our belt to keep ourselves viable.  I'm sorry you 
couldn't make it out ... hopefully next time.

-Baker
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bessel, Karen
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 3:29 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] OT - Pick mentioned in letter to the editor... [not-secure]

LOL I agree. He should speak for himself.

I'd trade my legacy software developer job for a data warehousing/business 
intelligence/database developer job tomorrow.





Karen Bessel
Software Developer

Tyler Technologies, Inc.
6500 International Parkway, Suite 2000
Plano, TX 75093
Phone: 972.713.3770 ext:6227
Fax: 972.713.3777
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web: http://www.tylertech.com
-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Land
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 2:19 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] OT - Pick mentioned in letter to the editor...
[not-secure]

Interesting, it's a shame that what he says isn't really true.

George

On 08/07/2008 19:59, Hennessey, Mark F. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This appeared in the letters to the editor section of the July 1
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 HIS PICK FOR AN OS IS CLEAR
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RE: [U2] OT - Pick mentioned in letter to the editor... [not-secure]

2008-07-08 Thread Bessel, Karen
Nope. I don't do any data warehousing, business intelligence, or
database development in my current position. 

I guess I should have been more specific. I would love to have a job
doing one or all of those things in a current, marketable technology
like Oracle or SQL Server.

I've uprooted my family twice in the last three years for job changes
and I don't want to do it any more.







Karen Bessel
Software Developer

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JPB-U2UG
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 3:56 PM
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[not-secure]

Karen,
Aren't you already doing those jobs on U2?
Jerry

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 3:29 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] OT - Pick mentioned in letter to the editor...
[not-secure]

LOL I agree. He should speak for himself.

I'd trade my legacy software developer job for a data
warehousing/business intelligence/database developer job tomorrow.





Karen Bessel
Software Developer

Tyler Technologies, Inc.
6500 International Parkway, Suite 2000
Plano, TX 75093
Phone: 972.713.3770 ext:6227
Fax: 972.713.3777 
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web: http://www.tylertech.com
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Land
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 2:19 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] OT - Pick mentioned in letter to the editor...
[not-secure]

Interesting, it's a shame that what he says isn't really true.

George

On 08/07/2008 19:59, Hennessey, Mark F. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This appeared in the letters to the editor section of the July 1
 Software Development Times
 
 
 
 HIS PICK FOR AN OS IS CLEAR
 
 
 
 I read your article about virtualization (Virtualization 3.0, May
15,
 page 25, or http://tinyurl.com/5j4dnc) with some amusement. I am an
old
 Pick database programmer, and Pick has done virtualization since the
 1970s.
 
 
 
 The Pick OS will load and run on just about any platform, including
 Microsoft's. It uses built-in tools to create one of the
easiest-to-use
 and most versatile 3D relational database models on the market. Yet,
it
 never merits mention in any of the mainstream media periodicals.
 
 
 
 Just about every buzzword and acronym you guys punch out every month,
 Pick has been doing since bell-bottoms and afro hairdos were in style.
 All the techno-weenies out there owe a great deal of what's happening
in
 their careers to this venerable OS, yet I'll bet less than 5% have
ever
 heard of it.
 
 
 
 Had Dick Pick not passed away in the mid-1990s, things might have been
 different today. But wherever you find a Pickie out there, they'll
tell
 you that they wouldn't trade their legacy system for all the
whiz-bang
 buzzword-laden toys in the world. So how about a nod to the good old
 days once in awhile?
 
 
 
 Gary Lass Wilsonville, Ore.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Mark Hennessey
 
 State of Connecticut
 
 Department of Social Services
 
 Information Technology Services
 
 Child Support Systems
 
 Voice: 860-424-5261
 
 Fax: 860-424-4813
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RE: [U2] OT - Pick mentioned in letter to the editor... [not-secure]

2008-07-08 Thread Allen E. Elwood
Well, just don't let anyone tell you that SQL is new

The first version of SQL was developed at IBM by Donald D. Chamberlin and
Raymond F. Boyce in the early 1970s. 

from

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SQL
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Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 14:45
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Subject: RE: [U2] OT - Pick mentioned in letter to the editor...
[not-secure]


Nope. I don't do any data warehousing, business intelligence, or
database development in my current position.

I guess I should have been more specific. I would love to have a job
doing one or all of those things in a current, marketable technology
like Oracle or SQL Server.

I've uprooted my family twice in the last three years for job changes
and I don't want to do it any more.







Karen Bessel
Software Developer

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JPB-U2UG
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 3:56 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] OT - Pick mentioned in letter to the editor...
[not-secure]

Karen,
Aren't you already doing those jobs on U2?
Jerry

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bessel, Karen
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 3:29 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] OT - Pick mentioned in letter to the editor...
[not-secure]

LOL I agree. He should speak for himself.

I'd trade my legacy software developer job for a data
warehousing/business intelligence/database developer job tomorrow.





Karen Bessel
Software Developer

Tyler Technologies, Inc.
6500 International Parkway, Suite 2000
Plano, TX 75093
Phone: 972.713.3770 ext:6227
Fax: 972.713.3777
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web: http://www.tylertech.com
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Land
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 2:19 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] OT - Pick mentioned in letter to the editor...
[not-secure]

Interesting, it's a shame that what he says isn't really true.

George

On 08/07/2008 19:59, Hennessey, Mark F. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This appeared in the letters to the editor section of the July 1
 Software Development Times



 HIS PICK FOR AN OS IS CLEAR



 I read your article about virtualization (Virtualization 3.0, May
15,
 page 25, or http://tinyurl.com/5j4dnc) with some amusement. I am an
old
 Pick database programmer, and Pick has done virtualization since the
 1970s.



 The Pick OS will load and run on just about any platform, including
 Microsoft's. It uses built-in tools to create one of the
easiest-to-use
 and most versatile 3D relational database models on the market. Yet,
it
 never merits mention in any of the mainstream media periodicals.



 Just about every buzzword and acronym you guys punch out every month,
 Pick has been doing since bell-bottoms and afro hairdos were in style.
 All the techno-weenies out there owe a great deal of what's happening
in
 their careers to this venerable OS, yet I'll bet less than 5% have
ever
 heard of it.



 Had Dick Pick not passed away in the mid-1990s, things might have been
 different today. But wherever you find a Pickie out there, they'll
tell
 you that they wouldn't trade their legacy system for all the
whiz-bang
 buzzword-laden toys in the world. So how about a nod to the good old
 days once in awhile?



 Gary Lass Wilsonville, Ore.







 Mark Hennessey

 State of Connecticut

 Department of Social Services

 Information Technology Services

 Child Support Systems

 Voice: 860-424-5261

 Fax: 860-424-4813
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Re: [U2] OT - Pick mentioned in letter to the editor... [not-secure]

2008-07-08 Thread Clifton Oliver
laughing

That was my first reaction, too. Doesn't seem to know the difference  
between virtualization and platform independence.

My second thought, when the editor lobe of my brain kicked in, was,  
My. What an 'interesting' attitude and tone to use to try to win  
over an editor to your viewpoint and get favorable mention in that  
publication.


Regards,

Clif


On Jul 8, 2008, at 12:18 PM, George Land wrote:

 Interesting, it's a shame that what he says isn't really true.

 George

 On 08/07/2008 19:59, Hennessey, Mark F. [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
 wrote:

 This appeared in the letters to the editor section of the July 1
 Software Development Times



 HIS PICK FOR AN OS IS CLEAR
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RE: [U2] OT - Pick mentioned in letter to the editor... [not-secure]

2008-07-08 Thread Mike Randall
I hate to say it but it's our own fault.  Many of us have been around a
while and now have positions of influence as far as the software systems.
If you are still writing green screen apps in this day and age then you
deserve what you get.  While we have a Universe backend,  there will never
be another character based screen written in my shop.  U2 supports every
modern interface out there.  If you are too [...]
to use them, you deserve your fate.

Harsh, but true

Mike Randall,  MCP


 
 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allen E. Elwood
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 6:38 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] OT - Pick mentioned in letter to the editor...
[not-secure]

Well, just don't let anyone tell you that SQL is new

The first version of SQL was developed at IBM by Donald D. Chamberlin and
Raymond F. Boyce in the early 1970s. 

from

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SQL
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Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 14:45
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] OT - Pick mentioned in letter to the editor...
[not-secure]


Nope. I don't do any data warehousing, business intelligence, or
database development in my current position.

I guess I should have been more specific. I would love to have a job
doing one or all of those things in a current, marketable technology
like Oracle or SQL Server.

I've uprooted my family twice in the last three years for job changes
and I don't want to do it any more.







Karen Bessel
Software Developer

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Karen,
Aren't you already doing those jobs on U2?
Jerry

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LOL I agree. He should speak for himself.

I'd trade my legacy software developer job for a data
warehousing/business intelligence/database developer job tomorrow.





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Interesting, it's a shame that what he says isn't really true.

George

On 08/07/2008 19:59, Hennessey, Mark F. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This appeared in the letters to the editor section of the July 1
 Software Development Times



 HIS PICK FOR AN OS IS CLEAR



 I read your article about virtualization (Virtualization 3.0, May
15,
 page 25, or http://tinyurl.com/5j4dnc) with some amusement. I am an
old
 Pick database programmer, and Pick has done virtualization since the
 1970s.



 The Pick OS will load and run on just about any platform, including
 Microsoft's. It uses built-in tools to create one of the
easiest-to-use
 and most versatile 3D relational database models on the market. Yet,
it
 never merits mention in any of the mainstream media periodicals.



 Just about every buzzword and acronym you guys punch out every month,
 Pick has been doing since bell-bottoms and afro hairdos were in style.
 All the techno-weenies out there owe a great deal of what's happening
in
 their careers to this venerable OS, yet I'll bet less than 5% have
ever
 heard of it.



 Had Dick Pick not passed away in the mid-1990s, things might have been
 different today. But wherever you find a Pickie out there, they'll
tell
 you that they wouldn't trade their legacy system for all the
whiz-bang
 buzzword-laden toys in the world. So how about a nod to the good old
 days once in awhile?



 Gary Lass Wilsonville, Ore.







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RE: [U2] OT - Pick mentioned in letter to the editor... [not-secure]

2008-07-08 Thread Frank Eperjesi
Curious, what you feel is untrue about what the author said.

A few years ago the one of Microsoft's directors of development wrote an
article (I believe it was titled One Step Forward, Two steps back)
wherein he pointed out how the original Pick Data model was so good.



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Interesting, it's a shame that what he says isn't really true.

George

On 08/07/2008 19:59, Hennessey, Mark F. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This appeared in the letters to the editor section of the July 1
 Software Development Times
 
 
 
 HIS PICK FOR AN OS IS CLEAR
 
 
 
 I read your article about virtualization (Virtualization 3.0, May
15,
 page 25, or http://tinyurl.com/5j4dnc) with some amusement. I am an
old
 Pick database programmer, and Pick has done virtualization since the
 1970s.
 
 
 
 The Pick OS will load and run on just about any platform, including
 Microsoft's. It uses built-in tools to create one of the
easiest-to-use
 and most versatile 3D relational database models on the market. Yet,
it
 never merits mention in any of the mainstream media periodicals.
 
 
 
 Just about every buzzword and acronym you guys punch out every month,
 Pick has been doing since bell-bottoms and afro hairdos were in style.
 All the techno-weenies out there owe a great deal of what's happening
in
 their careers to this venerable OS, yet I'll bet less than 5% have
ever
 heard of it.
 
 
 
 Had Dick Pick not passed away in the mid-1990s, things might have been
 different today. But wherever you find a Pickie out there, they'll
tell
 you that they wouldn't trade their legacy system for all the
whiz-bang
 buzzword-laden toys in the world. So how about a nod to the good old
 days once in awhile?
 
 
 
 Gary Lass Wilsonville, Ore.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Mark Hennessey
 
 State of Connecticut
 
 Department of Social Services
 
 Information Technology Services
 
 Child Support Systems
 
 Voice: 860-424-5261
 
 Fax: 860-424-4813
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2008-07-08 Thread George Land
I know what you mean, but the concept that Pick did virtualisation in the
70s and that the world would have been a different place if Dick Pick had
lived longer are stretching credibility.

But there is certainly something in the 'nothing is new' analysis.  Years
ago mainframes used dumb screens where you typed in a page of data and
submitted it.  Then over time the input devices started communicating with
the server on a field by field basis, then logic started to be loaded to the
user's device to run locally.  Then we got web pages where you typed in a
page of data and submitted it.  Over time the web browsers started
communicating back on a field by field basis and logic started to be loaded
to the user's device to run locally.

And so on...

George 

On 09/07/2008 01:07, Clifton Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 laughing
 
 That was my first reaction, too. Doesn't seem to know the difference
 between virtualization and platform independence.
 
 My second thought, when the editor lobe of my brain kicked in, was,
 My. What an 'interesting' attitude and tone to use to try to win
 over an editor to your viewpoint and get favorable mention in that
 publication.
 
 
 Regards,
 
 Clif
 


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