Re: [U2] Origin of the word 'COMO'

2013-07-22 Thread George Gallen
Com Output?

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What is the origin of the word COMO as used for the Universe logs ?

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[U2] Origin of the word 'COMO'

2013-07-22 Thread Wjhonson
What is the origin of the word COMO as used for the Universe logs ?

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Re: [U2] Origin of the word 'COMO'

2013-07-22 Thread Israel, John R.
Not sure, but back in the Pr1me days, I think we had both COMOs and COMIs.  
That was a LNG time ago, so hopefully that will knock some dust off a 
smarter person's grey matter.

JRI

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Re: [U2] Origin of the word 'COMO'

2013-07-22 Thread Chris Austin
COMO = Common Output
COMI = Common Input


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 Not sure, but back in the Pr1me days, I think we had both COMOs and COMIs.  
 That was a LNG time ago, so hopefully that will knock some dust off a 
 smarter person's grey matter.
 
 JRI
 
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Re: [U2] Origin of the word 'COMO'

2013-07-22 Thread Allen Egerton
Primos, then prime information.

Primos had command input and command output files. Comi and como.

They upgraded comi files with cpl which was a command processing language that 
supported variables and decision based branching.  

(Allen - Sent from my paperweight)

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 What is the origin of the word COMO as used for the Universe logs ?
 
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Re: [U2] Origin of the word 'COMO'

2013-07-22 Thread Wols Lists
On 22/07/13 21:10, Allen Egerton wrote:
 Primos, then prime information.
 
 Primos had command input and command output files. Comi and como.

And the nice thing about them was they sat in the OS on the tty line. So
if it was active it recorded EVERYTHING.

I've noticed - with I think both PI/Open and UV - that they sometimes
record a cleaned up version of the character stream. Which is nice on
some occasions, but a pain in the neck on others.
 
 They upgraded comi files with cpl which was a command processing language 
 that supported variables and decision based branching.  
 
Not really an upgrade, just a new programming language which sat at the
input processing level, not the character stream level :-) and yes, I
made a fair bit of use of both of them :-)

I actually loved COMO as a debugging tool because, combined with
FORTRAN's TRACE statement I could track exactly what my programs were doing.

Debuggers can be okay, but if your error occurs on the 30th iteration of
a loop it can be a pain, or if you need to track back a fair way to find
where things start to go wrong ... the ability to just have a trace of
the entire execution was great.

Cheers,
Wol

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Re: [U2] Origin of the word 'COMO'

2013-07-22 Thread Allen Egerton
Plus you could execute comi files on other than the default unit 6  so you 
could do semi modular programming.

There's still a como subroutine buried in uv that you can send a bit based 
argument to controlling output options. 

Next week: Primos.comi and config data

(Allen - Sent from my paperweight)

On Jul 22, 2013, at 4:36 PM, Wols Lists antli...@youngman.org.uk wrote:

 On 22/07/13 21:10, Allen Egerton wrote:
 Primos, then prime information.
 
 Primos had command input and command output files. Comi and como.
 
 And the nice thing about them was they sat in the OS on the tty line. So
 if it was active it recorded EVERYTHING.
 
 I've noticed - with I think both PI/Open and UV - that they sometimes
 record a cleaned up version of the character stream. Which is nice on
 some occasions, but a pain in the neck on others.
 
 They upgraded comi files with cpl which was a command processing language 
 that supported variables and decision based branching.  
 Not really an upgrade, just a new programming language which sat at the
 input processing level, not the character stream level :-) and yes, I
 made a fair bit of use of both of them :-)
 
 I actually loved COMO as a debugging tool because, combined with
 FORTRAN's TRACE statement I could track exactly what my programs were doing.
 
 Debuggers can be okay, but if your error occurs on the 30th iteration of
 a loop it can be a pain, or if you need to track back a fair way to find
 where things start to go wrong ... the ability to just have a trace of
 the entire execution was great.
 
 Cheers,
 Wol
 
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Re: [U2] Origin of the word 'COMO'

2013-07-22 Thread Robert

COMO=COMmand Output (since it captures command output to a file)
COMI=COMmand Input (since it allows you supply input to a program or 
command)


Robert Norman, U2 Programmer/Analyst
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On 7/22/2013 1:36 PM, Wols Lists wrote:

On 22/07/13 21:10, Allen Egerton wrote:

Primos, then prime information.

Primos had command input and command output files. Comi and como.

And the nice thing about them was they sat in the OS on the tty line. So
if it was active it recorded EVERYTHING.

I've noticed - with I think both PI/Open and UV - that they sometimes
record a cleaned up version of the character stream. Which is nice on
some occasions, but a pain in the neck on others.

They upgraded comi files with cpl which was a command processing language that 
supported variables and decision based branching.


Not really an upgrade, just a new programming language which sat at the
input processing level, not the character stream level :-) and yes, I
made a fair bit of use of both of them :-)

I actually loved COMO as a debugging tool because, combined with
FORTRAN's TRACE statement I could track exactly what my programs were doing.

Debuggers can be okay, but if your error occurs on the 30th iteration of
a loop it can be a pain, or if you need to track back a fair way to find
where things start to go wrong ... the ability to just have a trace of
the entire execution was great.

Cheers,
Wol

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