Re: [U2] Printing to Remote Warehouse
Thank you to everyone who responded to my question. Your responses have been extremley helpful. Bryan Evans On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 12:48 PM, John Thompson wrote: > Yet another option that I have done... which is still somewhat of a pain. > If their network hardware is rather old and they are expecting you to pop > in > a device that connects via a serial port, you can try this thin client. > > http://www.igel.com/us/products/hardware/ud3-series.html > > I only mention that because a PC in a south florida warehouse (where I'm > located) does not last too long. Just don't expect it to run Microsoft > Office or load up a spreadsheet. > > It does not run Accuterm, it runs Powerterm, and it will grab a WYSE or > ADDS > Viewpoint Aux port signal and shoot it to a printer connected to a parallel > or serial port. > > Of course, you could always do the same with a PC running Accuterm, if you > found a PC with a serial port on it. > > In my opinion, Slave printing from a MV client session drives me nuts, and > I > always make it a IP TCP/IP printer whenever possible. > > Just another thought... > > On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 10:57 AM, Glorfield, Gordon < > gglorfi...@vertisinc.com> wrote: > > > We solved a similar issue here in a rather low tech way. We set one of > our > > print spoolers to produce PDF files that are then emailed to the user. > They > > can then open and print from their PC. They don't even need to stay > > connected to the network once the file/email is received. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto: > > u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wols Lists > > Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 10:54 AM > > To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > > Subject: Re: [U2] Printing to Remote Warehouse > > > > On 25/05/11 22:22, Bryan Evans wrote: > > > I apologize upfront if this is more related to Unix rather than > UniVerse. > > > We have a remote warehouse that connects to us via telent on a dumb > > > terminal. They have a line printer hooked up to the dumb terminal. > When > > we > > > print packing lists, we open up the aux port and send the print job to > > the > > > printer. We are looking to eliminate the dumb terminal, but we are > stuck > > on > > > how to send a print job to a local printer hooked to a PC. Has anyone > > done > > > this before? Is it possible? The remote warehouse is not on our > network > > - > > > the only way they can connect is via telent. > > > > If you're planning to replace the network with a PC, and you're > > connecting over a phone line, then aren't the dial-up costs a factor? > > > > What I'd do is at least think about getting a broadband connection, then > > linking your PC into the main network through a VPN. Will the PC be > > running Windows or Linux? > > > > If it's linux, once the VPN is in place, the PC will be transparently on > > your network, and you can run a print spooler such as CUPS. If it's > > Windows, the same probably applies. > > > > The big question is what's the *physical* connection between the > > warehouse and the main network, and do you plan to change that? As soon > > as you swap the terminal for a PC you should be a able to run a network > > over that, even if it's something as old-fashioned as SLIP (serial line > > Internet Protocol iirc). > > > > > > We are running UniVerse 10.2 on HP-UX and use AccuTerm as our emulation > > > software. > > > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > > > Bryan Evans > > > > Cheers, > > Wol > > ___ > > U2-Users mailing list > > U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org > > http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users > > ___ > > U2-Users mailing list > > U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org > > http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users > > > > > > -- > John Thompson > ___ > U2-Users mailing list > U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org > http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users > ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Printing to Remote Warehouse
Yet another option that I have done... which is still somewhat of a pain. If their network hardware is rather old and they are expecting you to pop in a device that connects via a serial port, you can try this thin client. http://www.igel.com/us/products/hardware/ud3-series.html I only mention that because a PC in a south florida warehouse (where I'm located) does not last too long. Just don't expect it to run Microsoft Office or load up a spreadsheet. It does not run Accuterm, it runs Powerterm, and it will grab a WYSE or ADDS Viewpoint Aux port signal and shoot it to a printer connected to a parallel or serial port. Of course, you could always do the same with a PC running Accuterm, if you found a PC with a serial port on it. In my opinion, Slave printing from a MV client session drives me nuts, and I always make it a IP TCP/IP printer whenever possible. Just another thought... On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 10:57 AM, Glorfield, Gordon < gglorfi...@vertisinc.com> wrote: > We solved a similar issue here in a rather low tech way. We set one of our > print spoolers to produce PDF files that are then emailed to the user. They > can then open and print from their PC. They don't even need to stay > connected to the network once the file/email is received. > > -Original Message- > From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto: > u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wols Lists > Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 10:54 AM > To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > Subject: Re: [U2] Printing to Remote Warehouse > > On 25/05/11 22:22, Bryan Evans wrote: > > I apologize upfront if this is more related to Unix rather than UniVerse. > > We have a remote warehouse that connects to us via telent on a dumb > > terminal. They have a line printer hooked up to the dumb terminal. When > we > > print packing lists, we open up the aux port and send the print job to > the > > printer. We are looking to eliminate the dumb terminal, but we are stuck > on > > how to send a print job to a local printer hooked to a PC. Has anyone > done > > this before? Is it possible? The remote warehouse is not on our network > - > > the only way they can connect is via telent. > > If you're planning to replace the network with a PC, and you're > connecting over a phone line, then aren't the dial-up costs a factor? > > What I'd do is at least think about getting a broadband connection, then > linking your PC into the main network through a VPN. Will the PC be > running Windows or Linux? > > If it's linux, once the VPN is in place, the PC will be transparently on > your network, and you can run a print spooler such as CUPS. If it's > Windows, the same probably applies. > > The big question is what's the *physical* connection between the > warehouse and the main network, and do you plan to change that? As soon > as you swap the terminal for a PC you should be a able to run a network > over that, even if it's something as old-fashioned as SLIP (serial line > Internet Protocol iirc). > > > > We are running UniVerse 10.2 on HP-UX and use AccuTerm as our emulation > > software. > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Bryan Evans > > Cheers, > Wol > ___ > U2-Users mailing list > U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org > http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users > ___ > U2-Users mailing list > U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org > http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users > -- John Thompson ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Printing to Remote Warehouse
We solved a similar issue here in a rather low tech way. We set one of our print spoolers to produce PDF files that are then emailed to the user. They can then open and print from their PC. They don't even need to stay connected to the network once the file/email is received. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wols Lists Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 10:54 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Printing to Remote Warehouse On 25/05/11 22:22, Bryan Evans wrote: > I apologize upfront if this is more related to Unix rather than UniVerse. > We have a remote warehouse that connects to us via telent on a dumb > terminal. They have a line printer hooked up to the dumb terminal. When we > print packing lists, we open up the aux port and send the print job to the > printer. We are looking to eliminate the dumb terminal, but we are stuck on > how to send a print job to a local printer hooked to a PC. Has anyone done > this before? Is it possible? The remote warehouse is not on our network - > the only way they can connect is via telent. If you're planning to replace the network with a PC, and you're connecting over a phone line, then aren't the dial-up costs a factor? What I'd do is at least think about getting a broadband connection, then linking your PC into the main network through a VPN. Will the PC be running Windows or Linux? If it's linux, once the VPN is in place, the PC will be transparently on your network, and you can run a print spooler such as CUPS. If it's Windows, the same probably applies. The big question is what's the *physical* connection between the warehouse and the main network, and do you plan to change that? As soon as you swap the terminal for a PC you should be a able to run a network over that, even if it's something as old-fashioned as SLIP (serial line Internet Protocol iirc). > > We are running UniVerse 10.2 on HP-UX and use AccuTerm as our emulation > software. > > Thanks in advance, > > Bryan Evans Cheers, Wol ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Printing to Remote Warehouse
On 25/05/11 22:22, Bryan Evans wrote: > I apologize upfront if this is more related to Unix rather than UniVerse. > We have a remote warehouse that connects to us via telent on a dumb > terminal. They have a line printer hooked up to the dumb terminal. When we > print packing lists, we open up the aux port and send the print job to the > printer. We are looking to eliminate the dumb terminal, but we are stuck on > how to send a print job to a local printer hooked to a PC. Has anyone done > this before? Is it possible? The remote warehouse is not on our network - > the only way they can connect is via telent. If you're planning to replace the network with a PC, and you're connecting over a phone line, then aren't the dial-up costs a factor? What I'd do is at least think about getting a broadband connection, then linking your PC into the main network through a VPN. Will the PC be running Windows or Linux? If it's linux, once the VPN is in place, the PC will be transparently on your network, and you can run a print spooler such as CUPS. If it's Windows, the same probably applies. The big question is what's the *physical* connection between the warehouse and the main network, and do you plan to change that? As soon as you swap the terminal for a PC you should be a able to run a network over that, even if it's something as old-fashioned as SLIP (serial line Internet Protocol iirc). > > We are running UniVerse 10.2 on HP-UX and use AccuTerm as our emulation > software. > > Thanks in advance, > > Bryan Evans Cheers, Wol ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Printing to Remote Warehouse
Something like AccuTerm will still support all of your AUX code to operate in pretty well the same manner as the dumb terminal. IS the site "permanently connected" ... or are you using something like a Windows based PPTP connection? Ross Ferris Stamina Software Visage > Better by Design! -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Brutzman Sent: Thursday, 26 May 2011 8:36 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Printing to Remote Warehouse Probably a HP JetDirect print server could be connected to the LPT port of the printer. If yes, there are some steps to perform that me and others on this list could help with. --Bill -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Evans Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 5:23 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] Printing to Remote Warehouse I apologize upfront if this is more related to Unix rather than UniVerse. We have a remote warehouse that connects to us via telent on a dumb terminal. They have a line printer hooked up to the dumb terminal. When we print packing lists, we open up the aux port and send the print job to the printer. We are looking to eliminate the dumb terminal, but we are stuck on how to send a print job to a local printer hooked to a PC. Has anyone done this before? Is it possible? The remote warehouse is not on our network - the only way they can connect is via telent. We are running UniVerse 10.2 on HP-UX and use AccuTerm as our emulation software. Thanks in advance, Bryan Evans ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Printing to Remote Warehouse
Hello bryan,
We do it using the passtrough Accuterm print sequence (AUX Printer)
On Universe side,
We have a uvprinter called "auxport" associate to a spool-script (device
/dev/null)
SETPTR charge USEROPT with @TTY var (/dev/pts/xx) ('SETPTR USEROPT
"':@TTY:'" ')
# SCHEMA OF THE SCRIPT ...
The spool-script receive the uvspool arguments
uv_uid=$1; shift
uv_jobnr=$1 ; shift
uv_jobsize=$1; shift
uv_banner=$1; shift
uv_form=$1 ; shift
uv_printer=$1 ; shift
uv_7=$1; shift
uv_8=$1; shift
uv_9=$1; shift
uv_10=$1 ; shift
uv_useropts=$* ; shift
# get spool-data into a temp file
tmpfile="$tmp_path/spool_$$.tmp"
cat > tmpfile
AccutermAuxPrinterOpen = check accuterm doc ? esc[5i
AccutermAuxPrinterClose = check accuterm doc ? esc [4i
if uv_printer = auxport
echo $AccutermAuxPrinterOpen >> $useropt
cat tmpfile >> $useropt
echo $AccutermAuxPrinterClose >>$useropt
end
I hope this help.
Manu
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> Objet : [U2] Printing to Remote Warehouse
>
> I apologize upfront if this is more related to Unix rather than UniVerse.
> We have a remote warehouse that connects to us via telent on a dumb
> terminal. They have a line printer hooked up to the dumb terminal. When
> we print packing lists, we open up the aux port and send the print job to the
> printer. We are looking to eliminate the dumb terminal, but we are stuck on
> how to send a print job to a local printer hooked to a PC. Has anyone done
> this before? Is it possible? The remote warehouse is not on our network -
> the only way they can connect is via telent.
>
> We are running UniVerse 10.2 on HP-UX and use AccuTerm as our emulation
> software.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Bryan Evans
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Re: [U2] Printing to Remote Warehouse
If Printwizard doing the acceptance, will your unix system allow a ipsec connection? That is a protocol to set up a Virtual Private Network connection, essentially, creating an encrypted tunnel between the PC and your unix system, like adding a network card to your unix system, and hooking the PC up locally. . If this is the only PC, you could hard code the PC's VPN IP, and setup print wizard emulating a Jet direct as a remote printer. Then setup UV printer device to print to this remote printer. If you can't setup the IPsec, then you would need to configure the router which connects the PC to the internet to allow incoming traffic for a specific port # (ie. 9100 or 515) to be port forwarded to that PC, or to any IP that a printer is hooked up to. George Gallen Senior Programmer/Analyst Accounting/Data Division ggal...@wyanokegroup.com ph:856.848.9005 Ext 220 The Wyanoke Group http://www.wyanokegroup.com From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bob Rasmussen [r...@anzio.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 6:45 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Printing to Remote Warehouse On Wed, 25 May 2011, Bryan Evans wrote: > I apologize upfront if this is more related to Unix rather than UniVerse. > We have a remote warehouse that connects to us via telent on a dumb > terminal. They have a line printer hooked up to the dumb terminal. When we > print packing lists, we open up the aux port and send the print job to the > printer. We are looking to eliminate the dumb terminal, but we are stuck on > how to send a print job to a local printer hooked to a PC. Has anyone done > this before? Is it possible? The remote warehouse is not on our network - > the only way they can connect is via telent. > > We are running UniVerse 10.2 on HP-UX and use AccuTerm as our emulation > software. First, if it's a dumb terminal they're probably not doing a telnet connection. (If there's something spelled "telent" out there, I don't know about it.) A dumb terminal communicates via serial. You MIGHT have a serial-to-telnet adapter of some kind, and it would be important to know that. If you connect your AccuTerm in a similar manner, and use the correct control codes to turn on and off the printer port, then AccuTerm *is* able to do passthrough print. Note, though, that these codes vary by terminal type, and you said you turned on the AUX port instead of the printer port, so you might have the wrong codes. Bottom line: it should be possible to do what you're doing with AccuTerm. If the data needs to be manipulated to work on the (new) printer, such as if you're transitioning to a laser printer or even a "Windows-only" (i.e., brain-dead) printer, you could bring our Print Wizard software in to play, by doing passthrough print through AccuTerm, then feeding it to Print Wizard, and out to the printer. Print Wizard could also apply a form image, allowing you to print on plain paper instead of preprinted stock, for instance. It is also an option to run a freestanding version of Print Wizard, which would mimic a JetDirect device. There are lots of options. Call me if you'd like to discuss them. Regards, Bob Rasmussen, President, Rasmussen Software, Inc. personal e-mail: r...@anzio.com company e-mail: r...@anzio.com voice: (US) 503-624-0360 (9:00-6:00 Pacific Time) fax: (US) 503-624-0760 web: http://www.anzio.com street address: Rasmussen Software, Inc. 10240 SW Nimbus, Suite L9 Portland, OR 97223 USA ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Printing to Remote Warehouse
Slave printing from a remote PC running Accuterm is really easy. Sending char(18) to the display will switch the printer on and everything subsequently sent to the display will be diverted to the printer. Sending char(20) switches the printer off and returns output to the display. You'll want to set the printer to "text mode" in Accuterm so it bypasses any driver software on the PC. We have a 3rd party that does add'l finishing to some of our products and they ssh in via Accuterm over the internet to print the required bar code labels. This is the portion of the code that sends the labels to the attached Zebra printer: PRINT SLAVE.ON FOR J = 1 TO NO.LABELS LABEL = "^FN10^FD":J:" OF ":NO.LABELS:"^FS" FOR I = 1 TO CT ; PRINT LABEL ; NEXT I NEXT J PRINT SLAVE.OFF -John -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Evans Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 2:23 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] Printing to Remote Warehouse I apologize upfront if this is more related to Unix rather than UniVerse. We have a remote warehouse that connects to us via telent on a dumb terminal. They have a line printer hooked up to the dumb terminal. When we print packing lists, we open up the aux port and send the print job to the printer. We are looking to eliminate the dumb terminal, but we are stuck on how to send a print job to a local printer hooked to a PC. Has anyone done this before? Is it possible? The remote warehouse is not on our network - the only way they can connect is via telent. We are running UniVerse 10.2 on HP-UX and use AccuTerm as our emulation software. Thanks in advance, Bryan Evans ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Printing to Remote Warehouse
On Wed, 25 May 2011, Bryan Evans wrote: > I apologize upfront if this is more related to Unix rather than UniVerse. > We have a remote warehouse that connects to us via telent on a dumb > terminal. They have a line printer hooked up to the dumb terminal. When we > print packing lists, we open up the aux port and send the print job to the > printer. We are looking to eliminate the dumb terminal, but we are stuck on > how to send a print job to a local printer hooked to a PC. Has anyone done > this before? Is it possible? The remote warehouse is not on our network - > the only way they can connect is via telent. > > We are running UniVerse 10.2 on HP-UX and use AccuTerm as our emulation > software. First, if it's a dumb terminal they're probably not doing a telnet connection. (If there's something spelled "telent" out there, I don't know about it.) A dumb terminal communicates via serial. You MIGHT have a serial-to-telnet adapter of some kind, and it would be important to know that. If you connect your AccuTerm in a similar manner, and use the correct control codes to turn on and off the printer port, then AccuTerm *is* able to do passthrough print. Note, though, that these codes vary by terminal type, and you said you turned on the AUX port instead of the printer port, so you might have the wrong codes. Bottom line: it should be possible to do what you're doing with AccuTerm. If the data needs to be manipulated to work on the (new) printer, such as if you're transitioning to a laser printer or even a "Windows-only" (i.e., brain-dead) printer, you could bring our Print Wizard software in to play, by doing passthrough print through AccuTerm, then feeding it to Print Wizard, and out to the printer. Print Wizard could also apply a form image, allowing you to print on plain paper instead of preprinted stock, for instance. It is also an option to run a freestanding version of Print Wizard, which would mimic a JetDirect device. There are lots of options. Call me if you'd like to discuss them. Regards, Bob Rasmussen, President, Rasmussen Software, Inc. personal e-mail: r...@anzio.com company e-mail: r...@anzio.com voice: (US) 503-624-0360 (9:00-6:00 Pacific Time) fax: (US) 503-624-0760 web: http://www.anzio.com street address: Rasmussen Software, Inc. 10240 SW Nimbus, Suite L9 Portland, OR 97223 USA ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Printing to Remote Warehouse
Probably a HP JetDirect print server could be connected to the LPT port of the printer. If yes, there are some steps to perform that me and others on this list could help with. --Bill -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Evans Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 5:23 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] Printing to Remote Warehouse I apologize upfront if this is more related to Unix rather than UniVerse. We have a remote warehouse that connects to us via telent on a dumb terminal. They have a line printer hooked up to the dumb terminal. When we print packing lists, we open up the aux port and send the print job to the printer. We are looking to eliminate the dumb terminal, but we are stuck on how to send a print job to a local printer hooked to a PC. Has anyone done this before? Is it possible? The remote warehouse is not on our network - the only way they can connect is via telent. We are running UniVerse 10.2 on HP-UX and use AccuTerm as our emulation software. Thanks in advance, Bryan Evans ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
[U2] Printing to Remote Warehouse
I apologize upfront if this is more related to Unix rather than UniVerse. We have a remote warehouse that connects to us via telent on a dumb terminal. They have a line printer hooked up to the dumb terminal. When we print packing lists, we open up the aux port and send the print job to the printer. We are looking to eliminate the dumb terminal, but we are stuck on how to send a print job to a local printer hooked to a PC. Has anyone done this before? Is it possible? The remote warehouse is not on our network - the only way they can connect is via telent. We are running UniVerse 10.2 on HP-UX and use AccuTerm as our emulation software. Thanks in advance, Bryan Evans ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
