Jeff,
I'm a little late on this, but we go to DOS and type:
kill pid
e.g. kill 7068
It takes a few seconds, but has never failed.

The pid still shows on our LISTU.WHO program, but typing
LO pid
takes it off.

Eric Armstrong
Lobel Financial


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Today's Topics:

   1. Can't kill sessions (Jeff Butera)
   2. Re: Can't kill sessions (Doug)
   3. Re: Can't kill sessions (Jeff Butera)
   4. Re: INPUT -1 not returning the correct value (Anthony W. Youngman)
   5. Re: Can't kill sessions (Wally Terhune)
   6. Re: Can't kill sessions (Jeff Butera)
   7. UV & Ubuntu (Parks, Boyd)
   8. Re: Can't kill sessions (Symeon Breen)
   9. trigger question (john reid)
  10. Re: trigger question (Mark Eastwood)
  11. Re: UniData Unibasic IN function (Bob Woodward)
  12. Re: UV & Ubuntu (Henry Unger)
  13. Re: Can't kill sessions (Bill Haskett)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:57:01 -0500 (EST)
From: Jeff Butera <jbut...@hampshire.edu>
To: U2 Users List <u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org>
Subject: [U2] Can't kill sessions
Message-ID: <pine.lnx.4.64.0911111753110.17...@helios.hampshire.edu>
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I've got an issue with unidata 7.1.? on windows.  In short, we 
periodically have to kill off users for a variety of reasons.  The problem 
is that they won't die off.

That is, UniAdmin still shows the process and doesn't kill it, no matter 
how many times I try "Logout".  If I try tasklist/taskkill, I can't see 
the process.  Likewise, stopudt (with and without force) will not kill the 
udt.
p
Short of rebooting entire server, I'm at a loss.  Anyone have magic tricks 
for windows? I'm a unix guy and we need have these types of problems in 
*nix land...

Jeff Butera, Ph.D.
Administrative Systems
Hampshire College
jbut...@hampshire.edu
413-559-5556

"I'm just having a conversation with myself
        - it's about that time."
                  Catherine Butera



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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:23:34 -0700
From: "Doug" <dave...@hotmail.com>
To: "'U2 Users List'" <u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org>
Subject: Re: [U2] Can't kill sessions
Message-ID: <col101-ds11c1108dc065bd256f32caa0...@phx.gbl>
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Jeff,

This always seems to work for us on Unidata:
!deleteuser usrnbr 
 
Regards,
Doug
www.u2logic.com
"The only native middleware PHP"

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Subject: [U2] Can't kill sessions


I've got an issue with unidata 7.1.? on windows.  In short, we periodically
have to kill off users for a variety of reasons.  The problem is that they
won't die off.

That is, UniAdmin still shows the process and doesn't kill it, no matter how
many times I try "Logout".  If I try tasklist/taskkill, I can't see the
process.  Likewise, stopudt (with and without force) will not kill the udt.
p
Short of rebooting entire server, I'm at a loss.  Anyone have magic tricks
for windows? I'm a unix guy and we need have these types of problems in *nix
land...

Jeff Butera, Ph.D.
Administrative Systems
Hampshire College
jbut...@hampshire.edu
413-559-5556

"I'm just having a conversation with myself
        - it's about that time."
                  Catherine Butera

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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:47:28 -0500 (EST)
From: Jeff Butera <jbut...@hampshire.edu>
To: U2 Users List <u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org>
Subject: Re: [U2] Can't kill sessions
Message-ID: <pine.lnx.4.64.0911111846490.26...@helios.hampshire.edu>
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On Wed, 11 Nov 2009, Doug wrote:

> This always seems to work for us on Unidata:
> !deleteuser usrnbr

Thanks Doug - both stopudt and deleteuser do not work to resolve the 
issue.

Jeff Butera, Ph.D.
Administrative Systems
Hampshire College
jbut...@hampshire.edu
413-559-5556

"I'm just having a conversation with myself
        - it's about that time."
                  Catherine Butera



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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:05:10 +0000
From: "Anthony W. Youngman" <u...@thewolery.demon.co.uk>
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] INPUT -1 not returning the correct value
Message-ID: <o$ygb8a2e1+kf...@thewolery.demon.co.uk>
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In message <26304456.p...@talk.nabble.com>, T Stokes 
<t.sto...@monolith.com> writes
>
>I have a situtation where the INPUT -1 is not returning the correct value.
>The program 'freezes' due to this problem. Has anyone seen this situtation.
>
Do you mean "INPUT var,-1" ?

And what do you mean by "not returning the correct value"? What do you 
think is the correct value?

My immediate guess is that your program is freezing because it's getting 
a null input, which is exactly what INPUT x,-1 is *meant* to do!

Cheers,
Wol
-- 
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thimble. 'What *is* he?' said Magrat. 'They're gnomes,' said Nanny. The man
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:02:23 -0500
From: Wally Terhune <wterh...@rocketsoftware.com>
To: Jeff Butera <jbut...@hampshire.edu>, U2 Users List
        <u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org>
Subject: Re: [U2] Can't kill sessions
Message-ID:
        
<4d0763770c80784dbc7b8afe4d7fd02ff178ebb...@hqmail.rocketsoftware.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

is the problem that entries appear in 'listuser' output, but the Windows
processes do not exist?
if so, you might have more luck adding the -f option (force) to deleteuser
deleteuser -f udtpid  (USRNBR from the listuser output)

If the processes still exist at the OS level, you can use udkill.exe in the
UDTBIN directory (at 7.1 and later).
This is a hard kill - similar to UNIX kill -9

More importantly, you should contact your support provider to find out
what's going on.
seems unusual
regards,


Wally Terhune
U2 Support Architect
Rocket Software
Tel: (720) 475-8055
Mobile: (303) 807-6222
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[u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Butera
[jbut...@hampshire.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 4:47 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] Can't kill sessions

On Wed, 11 Nov 2009, Doug wrote:

> This always seems to work for us on Unidata:
> !deleteuser usrnbr

Thanks Doug - both stopudt and deleteuser do not work to resolve the
issue.

Jeff Butera, Ph.D.
Administrative Systems
Hampshire College
jbut...@hampshire.edu
413-559-5556

"I'm just having a conversation with myself
        - it's about that time."
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:16:50 -0500 (EST)
From: Jeff Butera <jbut...@hampshire.edu>
To: Wally Terhune <wterh...@rocketsoftware.com>
Cc: U2 Users List <u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org>
Subject: Re: [U2] Can't kill sessions
Message-ID: <pine.lnx.4.64.0911112215470.27...@helios.hampshire.edu>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed

> is the problem that entries appear in 'listuser' output, but the Windows
processes do not exist?
> if so, you might have more luck adding the -f option (force) to deleteuser
> deleteuser -f udtpid  (USRNBR from the listuser output)

Thanks Wally - deleteuser with force did not work.

> If the processes still exist at the OS level, you can use udkill.exe in
the UDTBIN directory (at 7.1 and later).
> This is a hard kill - similar to UNIX kill -9

We're about to upgrade from 7.1.x to 7.2.22 in the next month, so this may 
be a moot point.


Jeff Butera, Ph.D.
Administrative Systems
Hampshire College
jbut...@hampshire.edu
413-559-5556

"I'm just having a conversation with myself
        - it's about that time."
                  Catherine Butera



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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 07:11:41 -0500
From: "Parks, Boyd" <boyd.pa...@mckesson.com>
To: <u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org>
Subject: [U2] UV & Ubuntu
Message-ID:
        <2dee4c7d046c434d8f62b2d5b05be88605d72...@ndhvexch2.dsa.int>
Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"

Does anyone on the list know if it is possible to run UV on Ubuntu
server?  If so, I would love to be able to discuss off-line.
 
Thanks!
 
Boyd
 
Boyd Parks


 


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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 12:45:12 -0000
From: "Symeon Breen" <syme...@gmail.com>
To: "'U2 Users List'" <u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org>
Subject: Re: [U2] Can't kill sessions
Message-ID: <001101ca6395$fb3127a0$f19376...@com>
Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="US-ASCII"

I have a similar prob on linux, esp with udcs processes, and esp with pooled
ones, i can kill of the users using deleteuser and the process is indeed
gone, but they still appear in listuser and continue to take a licence for
about 5 mins.  It is a major headache when we are at the max number of
pooled connections and so the ones we want to stop and start cannot start
because udt is still hanging onto the licence. Basically the site is down
for 5 mins which is a long time when you are trying to achieve 99.9% uptime
!!


Would udkill be beneficial here - or is there a way to tell udt to tidy up
its licence usage ??


Cheers




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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Butera
Sent: 12 November 2009 03:17
To: Wally Terhune
Cc: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] Can't kill sessions

> is the problem that entries appear in 'listuser' output, but the Windows
processes do not exist?
> if so, you might have more luck adding the -f option (force) to deleteuser
> deleteuser -f udtpid  (USRNBR from the listuser output)

Thanks Wally - deleteuser with force did not work.

> If the processes still exist at the OS level, you can use udkill.exe in
the UDTBIN directory (at 7.1 and later).
> This is a hard kill - similar to UNIX kill -9

We're about to upgrade from 7.1.x to 7.2.22 in the next month, so this may 
be a moot point.


Jeff Butera, Ph.D.
Administrative Systems
Hampshire College
jbut...@hampshire.edu
413-559-5556

"I'm just having a conversation with myself
        - it's about that time."
                  Catherine Butera

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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 12:16:33 -0500
From: john reid <jreidnoarre...@gmail.com>
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] trigger question
Message-ID:
        <16bf21660911120916h736a53c9pd3d47b62ee951...@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Apologies if this isnt the correct forum.
Running Pick Universe 10.1.6.

We're getting a message like this:

cbarnum Unable to execute trigger as trigger creator "hvyuser".

Following this is a write failure on the particular file involved.

Its happening only on 2 files, of the 60 or so that are triggered.
I have actually dropped the trigger on one of the files, and it
appears that we are still getting the event.

Would anyone know what is being implied by this message, for example,
is it a permissions issue?


-- 
john


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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 10:23:40 -0700
From: "Mark Eastwood" <ma...@afsi.com>
To: "U2 Users List" <u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org>
Subject: Re: [U2] trigger question
Message-ID:
        <4e79ea8c2ba6694eb6a87686c3a9a76907fe8...@afs_exchange.afs.afsi.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"

Did you create/drop the trigger while users were on the system?  If yes
(and you keep your opened files in named commons), your users will
likely have to log off/on (or run CLEARCOMMON) to reset the file
pointers.

Mark


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Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 10:17 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] trigger question

Apologies if this isnt the correct forum.
Running Pick Universe 10.1.6.

We're getting a message like this:

cbarnum Unable to execute trigger as trigger creator "hvyuser".

Following this is a write failure on the particular file involved.

Its happening only on 2 files, of the 60 or so that are triggered.
I have actually dropped the trigger on one of the files, and it
appears that we are still getting the event.

Would anyone know what is being implied by this message, for example,
is it a permissions issue?


-- 
john
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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 10:43:41 -0800
From: "Bob Woodward" <bob_woodw...@k2sports.com>
To: "U2 Users List" <u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org>
Subject: Re: [U2] UniData Unibasic IN function
Message-ID:
        <e4e1f30e3f4d964fb7e7f18de1395854e56...@k2s-msg-01.k2sports.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"

I wanted to thank everyone for their input, especially Keith Johnson
from DATACOM.  He provided me with a link to a PickWiki entry at
http://www.pickwiki.com/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?GetKey which was almost perfect
for my needs.  It was written for Universe but adapting it to Unidata
was fairly easy.  I'm not able to recognize all the function keys,
cursor keys, and even the stand alone ESC key.

To modify his GetKey program, here's what I did to get it to run in
Unidata 6.1:

1. Uppercase all code lines. (I left comments mixed case.)
2. Shorten the labeled common block name to 7 characters.
3. Change all KEYIN() to IN() commands.
4. Change NAP command to a small SYSTEM(12) timing loop.
5. Change NOT(ASSIGNED(...)) to UNASSIGNED(...) command.

It's a self contained subroutine that is called with a single variable
which is for the returning key value.  

It's even seems to stay accurate if you hold down a key (like the ESC
key) for too long and it starts to auto repeat itself.

Thanks, again, Keith and everyone else for your help!

Bob Woodward
System Programmer/Analyst
K2 Sports



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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 10:44:20 -0800
From: "Henry Unger" <hun...@hitech.com>
To: "'U2 Users List'" <u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org>
Subject: Re: [U2] UV & Ubuntu
Message-ID: <3d403a3c-86c3-48c2-a84d-5e4edf8ce...@hitech.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="iso-8859-1"

I've installed the UV PE edition on my Dell Latitude 2100n netbook running
the desktop version of Ubuntu 9.10. There are a few things you have to do
pre- and post-installation, but otherwise, it works great.

Best regards,

Henry

Henry P. Unger
Hitech Systems, Inc.
http://www.hitech.com

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Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 4:12 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] UV & Ubuntu

Does anyone on the list know if it is possible to run UV on Ubuntu
server?  If so, I would love to be able to discuss off-line.
 
Thanks!
 
Boyd
 
Boyd Parks


 
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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 10:57:36 -0800
From: Bill Haskett <wphask...@advantos.net>
To: U2 Users List <u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org>
Subject: Re: [U2] Can't kill sessions
Message-ID: <4afc5aa0.6020...@advantos.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Jeff:

I wrote a basic program that uses "stopudt" and it seems to always work; 
albeit sometimes with a time lag.  I've also noticed that UniAdmin 
doesn't always work.  I'm in a UniObjects (UO.NET) development 
environment and haven't had to reboot the Windows server because of 
this, so I'm wondering why "stopudt" doesn't work for you.

Bill

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Jeff Butera said the following on 11/11/2009 2:57 PM:
>
> I've got an issue with unidata 7.1.? on windows.  In short, we 
> periodically have to kill off users for a variety of reasons.  The 
> problem is that they won't die off.
>
> That is, UniAdmin still shows the process and doesn't kill it, no 
> matter how many times I try "Logout".  If I try tasklist/taskkill, I 
> can't see the process.  Likewise, stopudt (with and without force) 
> will not kill the udt.
> p
> Short of rebooting entire server, I'm at a loss.  Anyone have magic 
> tricks for windows? I'm a unix guy and we need have these types of 
> problems in *nix land...
>
> Jeff Butera, Ph.D.
> Administrative Systems
> Hampshire College
> jbut...@hampshire.edu
> 413-559-5556
>
> "I'm just having a conversation with myself
>        - it's about that time."
>                  Catherine Butera
>
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