RE: [U2] [UV] server-side ODBC question

2007-12-13 Thread John Jenkins
In case there is any interest - many years ago (14 - past hat etc) we built
a complete U2 based interactive voice system with integrated telephony
interface. It ran on x86 (SCO at the time) and used Dialogic 'phone cards
and quite a lot of C code.

Just to show it can be done inside U2..

Out of interest - is anyone still using it?

Regards

JayJay
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RE: [U2] [UV] server-side ODBC question

2007-12-12 Thread John Hester
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 I'd recommend ShoreTel and Inter-Tel (MiTel). Both seem to 
 beat Avaya. We
 are currently in the process of deciding between them, or an Asterisk
 solution (which is looking more and more tempting and not 
 based on cost
 alone).
 
 Karl

Karl, thanks for the tip.  The project has been pushed back until Q3 of
next year, so we have more time for research now.  We're already
planning to look into Shoretel and I'm going to add Mitel to the list.
I'd be interested to hear who you end up picking and how the
implementation went.

-John
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RE: [U2] [UV] server-side ODBC question

2007-12-11 Thread Jerry Banker
Have you checked Ontario Systems? www.ontariosystems.com
They use Cache. I can't say how their new stuff works because we have
one of their products that is about 15 years old. However, we are still
supported, which says a lot for a company.

Jerry Banker
Sr Programmer Analyst
Affiliated Acceptance Corp
Sunrise Beach, MO
1-800-233-8483
www.affiliated.org

 -Original Message-
 From: John Hester [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 7:24 PM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: [U2] [UV] server-side ODBC question
 
 We're evaluating phone systems and need to access our UV customer data
 for call routing.  One of the systems (Vertical Televantage) can only
 communicate with other databases via ODBC.  In this scenario, UV would
 need to be the ODBC server and Televantage the client.  Caller ID
would
 be passed to UV, and it would return back whatever customer data we
 might want to use to route to the appropriate call center agent.
 
 Back around '03 I explored something similar with our SQL Server based
 CRM application and ended up making UV the ODBC client instead.  Seems
 like I couldn't find a way to go the other direction except via a
 desktop VB app - not in the background as a service.  I did
successfully
 connected to UV as an ODBC server from Excel some years back, but
again,
 that was via the desktop.  I also remember setting up a separate
 SQL-ized UV account and Q-pointers back to my Pick flavor account's
data
 to make that work.  That was on a different platform and version of
UV,
 though.
 
 Has anyone done something similar using ODBC and UV as the ODBC
server?
 Does what I remember about the process still hold true, or am I
 completely off base?
 
 Thanks,
 John
 
 John Hester
 System  Network Administrator
 Momentum Group
 (949) 833-8886 x623
 http://www.themomgroup.com
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RE: [U2] [UV] server-side ODBC question {Unclassified}

2007-12-11 Thread John Hester
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[snip]
 
 We have a lot of DTS (SQL Server 2005 SSIS) packages which 
 access our UV
 databases this way.
 Mostly it works fine, if at times a little slowly when the 
 tables being
 extracted are large and the I-Types really complex.

Thanks, Mike.  Is it possible to write data to UV from the client
application when connecting this way?

-John
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RE: [U2] [UV] server-side ODBC question {Unclassified}

2007-12-11 Thread HENDERSON MIKE, MR
John asked 
Is it possible to write data to UV [from a remote ODBC client]?

I'm not aware of any technical reason why not, but we work really hard
to not allow it. :-)
So I can't really say


Regards


Mike


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[snip]
 
 We have a lot of DTS (SQL Server 2005 SSIS) packages which 
 access our UV databases this way.
 Mostly it works fine, if at times a little slowly when the 
 tables being extracted are large and the I-Types really complex.

Thanks, Mike.  Is it possible to write data to UV from the client
application when connecting this way?

-John
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RE: [U2] [UV] server-side ODBC question

2007-12-11 Thread John Hester
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 Have you checked Ontario Systems? www.ontariosystems.com
 They use Cache. I can't say how their new stuff works because we have
 one of their products that is about 15 years old. However, we 
 are still
 supported, which says a lot for a company.

Thanks, Jerry.  Glancing at their site it looks like they do outbound
dialing.  We're in need of an inbound call center application on top of
an IP-PBX.  So far we've looked at Avaya, Cisco, and Vertical.

-John
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RE: [U2] [UV] server-side ODBC question {Unclassified}

2007-12-11 Thread John Hester
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 John asked 
 Is it possible to write data to UV [from a remote ODBC client]?
 
 I'm not aware of any technical reason why not, but we work really hard
 to not allow it. :-)
 So I can't really say

Thanks, Mike.  Yes, I would think for most applications you'd never want
to.  We just need to write caller ID and agent extension into a file
somewhere within UV so the agent taking the call can pull up the right
account before answering.

-John
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RE: [U2] [UV] server-side ODBC question {Unclassified}

2007-12-11 Thread Ross Ferris
Type 1/19 files are GREAT for this type of thing!

Ross Ferris
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 John asked
 Is it possible to write data to UV [from a remote ODBC client]?

 I'm not aware of any technical reason why not, but we work really
hard
 to not allow it. :-)
 So I can't really say

Thanks, Mike.  Yes, I would think for most applications you'd never
want
to.  We just need to write caller ID and agent extension into a file
somewhere within UV so the agent taking the call can pull up the right
account before answering.

-John
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RE: [U2] [UV] server-side ODBC question

2007-12-11 Thread karlp
I'd recommend ShoreTel and Inter-Tel (MiTel). Both seem to beat Avaya. We
are currently in the process of deciding between them, or an Asterisk
solution (which is looking more and more tempting and not based on cost
alone).

Karl

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 Subject: RE: [U2] [UV] server-side ODBC question

 Have you checked Ontario Systems? www.ontariosystems.com
 They use Cache. I can't say how their new stuff works because we have
 one of their products that is about 15 years old. However, we
 are still
 supported, which says a lot for a company.

 Thanks, Jerry.  Glancing at their site it looks like they do outbound
 dialing.  We're in need of an inbound call center application on top of
 an IP-PBX.  So far we've looked at Avaya, Cisco, and Vertical.

 -John
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RE: [U2] [UV] server-side ODBC question

2007-12-10 Thread John Hester
 Has anyone done something similar using ODBC and UV as the 
 ODBC server?
 Does what I remember about the process still hold true, or am I
 completely off base?
 

I should also mention - we're running UV 10.1.4 on RH AS 3.0.

Thanks,
John
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RE: [U2] [UV] server-side ODBC question {Unclassified}

2007-12-10 Thread HENDERSON MIKE, MR
John

I also remember setting up a separate SQL-ized UV account and
Q-pointers back to my Pick flavor account's data to make that work.
I'm fairly sure that's the recommended way of doing it, it's certainly
the way we've done it.
That way, you only 'expose' the particular file(s) and data element(s)
you want to for ODBC consumption.  That way you can also expose as
simple-appearing I-Types, fairly complex inter-table joins and/or apply
and security / filtering rules against your UV data.

We have a local user on the UV server that the remote server
impersonates. This user has read access to the SQL-ised account only.
The user ID  password are hard-coded in the remote server's ODBC setup
- the IBM U2 ODBC Data Source setup (on the Clients CD) now encrypts
this password, which is nice.

We have a lot of DTS (SQL Server 2005 SSIS) packages which access our UV
databases this way.
Mostly it works fine, if at times a little slowly when the tables being
extracted are large and the I-Types really complex.



Regards


Mike


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Subject: [U2] [UV] server-side ODBC question

We're evaluating phone systems and need to access our UV customer data
for call routing.  One of the systems (Vertical Televantage) can only
communicate with other databases via ODBC.  In this scenario, UV would
need to be the ODBC server and Televantage the client.  Caller ID would
be passed to UV, and it would return back whatever customer data we
might want to use to route to the appropriate call center agent.

Back around '03 I explored something similar with our SQL Server based
CRM application and ended up making UV the ODBC client instead.  Seems
like I couldn't find a way to go the other direction except via a
desktop VB app - not in the background as a service.  I did successfully
connected to UV as an ODBC server from Excel some years back, but again,
that was via the desktop.  I also remember setting up a separate
SQL-ized UV account and Q-pointers back to my Pick flavor account's data
to make that work.  That was on a different platform and version of UV,
though.

Has anyone done something similar using ODBC and UV as the ODBC server?
Does what I remember about the process still hold true, or am I
completely off base?

Thanks,
John

John Hester
System  Network Administrator
Momentum Group
(949) 833-8886 x623
http://www.themomgroup.com
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