Re: Universe File Corruption

2004-03-01 Thread Martin Phillips
To add to JJ's response...

The UV Internals course is 5 days:
Day 1: The internal architecture. The content of the UV account and what you
can do by tweaking some of the files in it. The interfaces in/out of UV.
Day 2: The shared memory areas. Diagnostic tools for examining these areas
to find out what is going on.  Locking mechanisms (very detailed).
Day 3: The file system. How it works on the inside. Loads of detail about
how records are stored and located. Looks at all the different file types.
Alternate key indices.
Day 4: The file system. What goes wrong when it doesn't work. Performance
tuning. Fixing corrupt files.
Day 5: The UV run machine. How to make you applications work with UV instead
of fighting against it. The spooler.

Location: As JJ says, for UK clients it's normally at Staines though on-site
is available.

Cost: Check the IBM web site or call their training department
(020-8818-1169).

My involvement is that I deliver this course for IBM.

Martin Phillips
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RE: Universe File Corruption

2004-02-29 Thread John Jenkins
By my recollection the courses run in Staines (on-site on request etc...)

The URL linking to the schedules is:
http://www-306.ibm.com/services/learning/uk/cat/

(though it appears to be unwell at the moment)

Regards

JayJay



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Hhhm, interesting...

Course location?
Cost?
Number of Days?

John Appleyard
Arthur J. Gallagher (UK) Limited




The next Internals course in the UK is scheduled for the week starting 15
March but will only run if there is sufficient interest.

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Universe File Corruption

2004-02-27 Thread TELRIS MAN
Our system is running on UV 9.4.1.3B on SCO Unix 5.0.5.

I have encoutered the following error message when I SELECT a file 'INVOICE'
File /disk3/MYDATA/INVOICE
Computed blink of 0x312e3134 does not match expected blink of 0x158800
Detected within group starting address 0x27e1e00 !
Internal data error.

Anybody over there can tell me how can I fix the problem and save all data?

Please describe details

Thks

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RE: Universe File Corruption

2004-02-27 Thread Bob Witney
do you have this on the system anywhere

./usr/lpp/uv/bin/uvfixfile

bob


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Our system is running on UV 9.4.1.3B on SCO Unix 5.0.5.

I have encoutered the following error message when I SELECT a file 'INVOICE'
File /disk3/MYDATA/INVOICE
Computed blink of 0x312e3134 does not match expected blink of 0x158800
Detected within group starting address 0x27e1e00 !
Internal data error.

Anybody over there can tell me how can I fix the problem and save all data?

Please describe details

Thks

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RE: Universe File Corruption

2004-02-27 Thread Eppel,Gary

'uvfixfile' won't touch this (bitter experience speaking here). You
really need fixtool and for that you'll need to have UV10.0.x (I think
the 'x' is 15 or higher, not totally sure) or, even better, v10.1,
installed. The versions of fixtool prior to that were not as
sophisticated as the current one, which can actually (usually)
successfully fix something like this.

It can be fixed manually, but that would take a lot more than an email
to spell out the details :-(   and then only if you are extermely
comfortable with bit buckets and reading/modifying hex values, etc.
There have been emails on some of this before - search the archives.

In the meantime, if you need it fixed fast, call Universe support and be
prepared to pay a few hundred bucks.

Gary Eppel


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do you have this on the system anywhere

./usr/lpp/uv/bin/uvfixfile

bob


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Our system is running on UV 9.4.1.3B on SCO Unix 5.0.5.

I have encoutered the following error message when I SELECT a file
'INVOICE'
File /disk3/MYDATA/INVOICE
Computed blink of 0x312e3134 does not match expected blink of 0x158800
Detected within group starting address 0x27e1e00 !
Internal data error.

Anybody over there can tell me how can I fix the problem and save all
data?

Please describe details

Thks

TM
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RE: Universe File Corruption

2004-02-27 Thread Jeff Schasny
Or, assuming you have good backups, delete the file and restore it from
backups

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'uvfixfile' won't touch this (bitter experience speaking here). You
really need fixtool and for that you'll need to have UV10.0.x (I think
the 'x' is 15 or higher, not totally sure) or, even better, v10.1,
installed. The versions of fixtool prior to that were not as
sophisticated as the current one, which can actually (usually)
successfully fix something like this.

It can be fixed manually, but that would take a lot more than an email
to spell out the details :-(   and then only if you are extermely
comfortable with bit buckets and reading/modifying hex values, etc.
There have been emails on some of this before - search the archives.

In the meantime, if you need it fixed fast, call Universe support and be
prepared to pay a few hundred bucks.

Gary Eppel


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do you have this on the system anywhere

./usr/lpp/uv/bin/uvfixfile

bob


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Our system is running on UV 9.4.1.3B on SCO Unix 5.0.5.

I have encoutered the following error message when I SELECT a file
'INVOICE'
File /disk3/MYDATA/INVOICE
Computed blink of 0x312e3134 does not match expected blink of 0x158800
Detected within group starting address 0x27e1e00 !
Internal data error.

Anybody over there can tell me how can I fix the problem and save all
data?

Please describe details

Thks

TM
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Re: Universe File Corruption

2004-02-27 Thread Karl L Pearson
Once upon a time, I repaired uniVerse files fairly often. I was taught
by Mark Baldridge and later took a refresher course from Joel Yates.

Fixing the file at v9.4.n.n (pre fixtool days) will require manual file
work at the OS level using filepeek. Since filepeek doesn't prompt for
errors, writing the wrong data can destroy the file. Incidently, if
everyone is off the system and there are no processes running against
the INVOICE file, uvfixfile may very well work just fine. It fails if
there is any activity against the file. In later releases, uvfixfile
wouldn't even run if there was file activity, similar to RESIZE.

As for you question about not losing data, sometimes you don't lose data
if the link is from a duplicate 'forward link' to 2 different groups.
Fixing the Blink error will allow the hashing algorhythm for the correct
group to be seen. There is a very real chance that you will lose the one
record where the Blink error is and possibly the records that come after
the error in the affected group.

If the corrupt file is a type 30 file (dynamic on UV), then the repair
is more difficult, but still relatively easy for someone with
experience.

Karl Pearson

On Fri, 2004-02-27 at 08:04, TELRIS MAN wrote:
 Our system is running on UV 9.4.1.3B on SCO Unix 5.0.5.
 
 I have encoutered the following error message when I SELECT a file 'INVOICE'
 File /disk3/MYDATA/INVOICE
 Computed blink of 0x312e3134 does not match expected blink of 0x158800
 Detected within group starting address 0x27e1e00 !
 Internal data error.
 
 Anybody over there can tell me how can I fix the problem and save all data?
 
 Please describe details
 
 Thks
 
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Re: Universe File Corruption

2004-02-27 Thread Martin Phillips
I keep pushing it but

The UniVerse Internals course teaches you how to repair files for yourself.
The cost of the course is far lower than IBM's standard minimum charge for
fixing a file for you so it's money well spent.

The next Internals course in the UK is scheduled for the week starting 15
March but will only run if there is sufficient interest.

Martin Phillips
Ladybridge Systems
17b Coldstream Lane, Hardingstone, Northampton NN4 6DB
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