RE: [U2] UD UniDebugger

2006-04-05 Thread Bob Woodward
One of the things we have to watch out for is the inherit setting for
subdirectory rights.  You may have the right permissions for MyApp but
the Dta and BP directories may have different security settings. Then
there's the security settings for the file/program itself.

BobW
 

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Subject: [U2] UD UniDebugger

Speaking of UniDebugger, how does one go about updating a UniData file
on
another server?

I have UD 7.1 running on a Win 2K3 server.  The permissions on this
server
allow Administrators complete control and the UniData group complete
control.  The group of accounts I want access to is located in
E:\MyApp\.
I've shared this directory as MyApp then in UniDebugger I open the
BP
file in \\AsiDev\MyApp\Dta\BP then select a program.  When I try to
update
the program I get a message that I don't have permissions.

What permissions should I give to E:\MyApp so that UniDebugger can
update
these programs?

Any help would be appreciated.  :-)

Bill Haskett
Advantos Systems, Inc.
www.advantos.net 
(760)944-5570 (CA)
(360)923-4838 (WA)
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RE: [U2] UD UniDebugger

2006-04-05 Thread Bill Haskett
Bob  Colin:

I checked the permissions and they are all propagated down through the
subdirectories and files.  Only server Administrators and the UniData group
have control over everything under the MyApp shared directory, nothing
else.

When I open a file I'm given a choice of how the file is opened: 1) Disk, 2)
Ftp, and 3) UniObjects.  I've been trying Disk but it appears I can't
update these files because I've set them up so only server administrators
and UniData group users can modify the files.  From my workstation, I can
view the files, just not change them.

When I try access via UniObjects, I'm asked to provide my server user name
and password (credentials).  Upon entering these server credentials I can
update the files.

So, it appears when I connect to the shared directory on the server, using
my workstation's Windows Explorer (or anywhere else for that matter), I'm
using the SYSTEM windows user that I've explicitly removed from access to
these directories.  

Therefore, when securing the directories, UniDebugger should only be used
with UniObjects where the server's credentials can be entered and
used...unless, of course, anyone else knows of a valid, secure, user/group
that I can add to the list of authorized users of the MyApp directory to
make the Disk option work.  :-)

Thanks.

Bill
 

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 Bill;
  
 Which read/write type are you using when you open the file?
  
 If you use disk then it uses standard windows permissions 
 (i.e.. if you can
 update the program in notepad you can update it in 
 UniDebugger). I have
 mapped drive letters - but I wouldn't think it would be any different.
  
 I've never gone through the hassle of setting up ftp to work 
 on a windows host.
 But I have used it on an Aix host. Standard ftp...
  
 Lastly is UniObjects. I've gotten it to work - just to make 
 sure I could. The
 only benefit I saw was having the program actually locked at 
 the UniData
 level - never found it worth the trouble. Using straight disk 
 is so much 
 easier.
  
 What type of permissions/security do you have on the share?
 What if you use the full unc path?
 What if you map a drive?
 You're not doing something silly like logging in as someone who
 isn't a member of the admin or UniData group?
 Was the user recently added to the group? Sometimes it takes a 
 while to take effect.
  
 hth
 Colin Alfke
 Calgary Canada
  
  
 
 
 
 From: Bill Haskett
 
 Speaking of UniDebugger, how does one go about updating a 
 UniData file on
 another server?
 
 I have UD 7.1 running on a Win 2K3 server.  The permissions 
 on this server
 allow Administrators complete control and the UniData group complete
 control.  The group of accounts I want access to is located 
 in E:\MyApp\.
 I've shared this directory as MyApp then in UniDebugger I 
 open the BP
 file in \\AsiDev\MyApp\Dta\BP then select a program.  When 
 I try to update
 the program I get a message that I don't have permissions.
 
 What permissions should I give to E:\MyApp so that 
 UniDebugger can update
 these programs?
 
 Any help would be appreciated.  :-)
 
 Bill Haskett
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RE: [U2] UD UniDebugger

2006-04-04 Thread colin.alfke
Bill;
 
Which read/write type are you using when you open the file?
 
If you use disk then it uses standard windows permissions (i.e.. if you can
update the program in notepad you can update it in UniDebugger). I have
mapped drive letters - but I wouldn't think it would be any different.
 
I've never gone through the hassle of setting up ftp to work on a windows host.
But I have used it on an Aix host. Standard ftp...
 
Lastly is UniObjects. I've gotten it to work - just to make sure I could. The
only benefit I saw was having the program actually locked at the UniData
level - never found it worth the trouble. Using straight disk is so much 
easier.
 
What type of permissions/security do you have on the share?
What if you use the full unc path?
What if you map a drive?
You're not doing something silly like logging in as someone who
isn't a member of the admin or UniData group?
Was the user recently added to the group? Sometimes it takes a 
while to take effect.
 
hth
Colin Alfke
Calgary Canada
 
 



From: Bill Haskett

Speaking of UniDebugger, how does one go about updating a UniData file on
another server?

I have UD 7.1 running on a Win 2K3 server.  The permissions on this server
allow Administrators complete control and the UniData group complete
control.  The group of accounts I want access to is located in E:\MyApp\.
I've shared this directory as MyApp then in UniDebugger I open the BP
file in \\AsiDev\MyApp\Dta\BP then select a program.  When I try to update
the program I get a message that I don't have permissions.

What permissions should I give to E:\MyApp so that UniDebugger can update
these programs?

Any help would be appreciated.  :-)

Bill Haskett
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