Re: [U2] History of Prime Information

2013-06-15 Thread Wols Lists
...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wols Lists Sent: 12 June 2013 22:14 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] History of Prime Information On 12/06/13 13:36, Martin Phillips wrote: It is interesting to note that just a few weeks before

Re: [U2] History of Prime Information

2013-06-13 Thread David Peters Bluefinity
International - an Mpower1 Group Company -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wols Lists Sent: 12 June 2013 22:14 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] History of Prime Information On 12/06/13

Re: [U2] History of Prime Information

2013-06-12 Thread Brett Callacher
Western Computer Services -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of David Taylor Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 6:13 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] History of Prime Information If I'm

Re: [U2] History of Prime Information

2013-06-12 Thread dale kelley
...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of David Taylor Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 6:13 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] History of Prime Information If I'm not mistaken, there was another company in between Vmark and IBM. I believe (and there may have been some

Re: [U2] History of Prime Information

2013-06-12 Thread Martin Phillips
I can add that I think VMark rewrote Prime Information in C which really boosted the performance. I think they called it Prime Info or something like that. I'm not sure about this. As far as I know, once VMark took ownership of Prime Information, they gently retired it. Are you thinking of

Re: [U2] History of Prime Information

2013-06-12 Thread Symeon Breen
PI/Open I think that was -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of dale kelley Sent: 12 June 2013 13:09 To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] History of Prime Information I can add that I think VMark rewrote

Re: [U2] History of Prime Information

2013-06-12 Thread Charles Stevenson
Martin, Those are details I hadn't heard. Thanks, Chuck On 6/12/2013 7:36 AM, Martin Phillips wrote: I can add that I think VMark rewrote Prime Information in C which really boosted the performance. I think they called it Prime Info or something like that. I'm not sure about this. As far as I

Re: [U2] History of Prime Information

2013-06-12 Thread dale kelley
Thanks Martin, I remember those days, but only vaguely and never knew those details. dale On 06/12/2013 07:36 AM, Martin Phillips wrote: I can add that I think VMark rewrote Prime Information in C which really boosted the performance. I think they called it Prime Info or something like that.

Re: [U2] History of Prime Information

2013-06-12 Thread Wjhonson
I don't know about this idea of retiring Prime Information. The Information flavor is part of Universe, you can still select it, so I suggest they merged it into Universe, for lack of a better phrasing. ___ U2-Users mailing list

Re: [U2] History of Prime Information

2013-06-12 Thread Wols Lists
On 12/06/13 13:36, Martin Phillips wrote: It is interesting to note that just a few weeks before first release the marketing guys decided to change the platform on which it would be launched. If we had gone the assembler route, this would have imposed a huge delay. With C, it took just a few

Re: [U2] History of Prime Information

2013-05-02 Thread Anthonys Lists
- From: Wols Lists antli...@youngman.org.uk To: u2-users u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Tue, Apr 30, 2013 10:57 am Subject: Re: [U2] History of Prime Information On 29/04/13 19:25, Jerry Banker wrote: Prime Information was originally developed by Devcom I'm not sure what the name was at that time

Re: [U2] History of Prime Information

2013-05-02 Thread Wjhonson
To: u2-users u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Thu, May 2, 2013 2:21 am Subject: Re: [U2] History of Prime Information On 30/04/2013 19:03, Wjhonson wrote: Anthony I'd be very surprised if the DevCom code was created that way. My understanding, and I'm willing to be corrected, was that the DevCom

Re: [U2] History of Prime Information

2013-04-30 Thread Wols Lists
On 29/04/13 19:25, Jerry Banker wrote: Prime Information was originally developed by Devcom I'm not sure what the name was at that time but I do know that Prime Computers bought them out and bought the rights from Pick to develop independently. Prime became a database powerhouse with the

Re: [U2] History of Prime Information

2013-04-30 Thread Wjhonson
Subject: Re: [U2] History of Prime Information On 29/04/13 19:25, Jerry Banker wrote: Prime Information was originally developed by Devcom I'm not sure what the name was at that time but I do know that Prime Computers bought them out and bought the rights from Pick to develop independently. Prime

Re: [U2] History of Prime Information

2013-04-30 Thread Mike Street
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] History of Prime Information Anthony I'd be very surprised if the DevCom code was created that way. My understanding, and I'm willing to be corrected, was that the DevCom code was built independently (And thanks for those who jogged my memory

Re: [U2] History of Prime Information

2013-04-30 Thread Wjhonson
Interesting for the issue of Devcom / Escom, I happen to have in my grubby little hands a copy of Pick Hits from 1988. Escom is listed in Kirkland, and there is also a company called Devcom Mid America which is listed in Oak Brook Illinois Now where have I heard of Oak Brook before? I mean in

Re: [U2] History of Prime Information

2013-04-30 Thread Mike Street
SMI and, of course, RPL. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 8:39 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] History of Prime Information Interesting

Re: [U2] History of Prime Information

2013-04-30 Thread Tony Gravagno
No, SMI was always in Des Plaines, IL. Oak Brook was home to the McDonalds User Group (MUG) which managed accounting for hundreds (thousands?) of McDonalds hamburger franchises. That software was originally in RPL until it was ported to BASIC. (I had a hand in that.) I have a couple clients in

Re: [U2] History of Prime Information

2013-04-29 Thread Symeon Breen
...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wols Lists Sent: 27 April 2013 14:54 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] History of Prime Information On 27/04/13 05:26, Wjhonson wrote: Okay but let's just talk about 1990-1993 How did Computer Vision exactly get its hands on Prime Information

Re: [U2] History of Prime Information

2013-04-29 Thread Hona, David
, 29 April 2013 6:59 PM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] History of Prime Information I think prime and vmark had done business together hence why the purchase - I remember back in 92/93 when we had a pair of prime 1920's (I think) running prime information, we then got a new prime unix box

Re: [U2] History of Prime Information

2013-04-29 Thread Wjhonson
What is the origin of Prime Information? How did that come about? The histories I've seen so far about Prime focus almost exclusively in the hardware. Who developed Information ? Why did they make it Pick like ? Where did they go ? ___ U2-Users

Re: [U2] History of Prime Information

2013-04-29 Thread Jerry Banker
took over some of the offices that Prime had on Speen Street. When Prime went under, don't ask why, at the end of the 80's, early 90's, Vmark bought Prime Information. To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org From: wjhon...@aol.com Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 12:03:37 -0400 Subject: Re: [U2] History

Re: [U2] History of Prime Information

2013-04-27 Thread Wols Lists
On 27/04/13 05:26, Wjhonson wrote: Okay but let's just talk about 1990-1993 How did Computer Vision exactly get its hands on Prime Information ? This happened *before* the final bankruptcy of Prime? Or did somehow Prime sell or spin off Computer Vision with Prime Information as well? iirc

Re: [U2] History of Prime Information

2013-04-26 Thread Mark Eastwood
@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] History of Prime Information so explain that better and whats the source? -Original Message- From: Allen Egerton aeger...@pobox.com To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Fri, Apr 26, 2013 12:58 pm Subject: Re: [U2] TCL input and response logging

Re: [U2] History of Prime Information

2013-04-26 Thread Allen Egerton
Prime Computer out of Natick Massachusetts went out of business. One of their products was PR1ME INFORMATION. They were acquired by another computer, Computervision (Thank you Mark, I'd forgotten the name). The product PRIME INFORMATION was acquired by VMark. Vmark was later acquired by

Re: [U2] History of Prime Information

2013-04-26 Thread David Taylor
If I'm not mistaken, there was another company in between Vmark and IBM. I believe (and there may have been some smoke and mirrors in all this) that Informatics acquired Ardent and then assigned the CEO of Ardent as the President of Informatics, or something like that, to run both Ardent and

Re: [U2] History of Prime Information

2013-04-26 Thread Kevin King
Vmark + Unidata = Ardent - Informix - IBM - Rocket, right? On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 7:12 PM, David Taylor da...@sysmarkinfo.com wrote: If I'm not mistaken, there was another company in between Vmark and IBM. I believe (and there may have been some smoke and mirrors in all this) that

Re: [U2] History of Prime Information

2013-04-26 Thread Richard Lewis
I believe that was Informix rather than Informatics. Richard Lewis On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 7:12 PM, David Taylor da...@sysmarkinfo.com wrote: If I'm not mistaken, there was another company in between Vmark and IBM. I believe (and there may have been some smoke and mirrors in all this) that

Re: [U2] History of Prime Information

2013-04-26 Thread Larry Hiscock
division to Rocket Software. Larry Hiscock Western Computer Services -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of David Taylor Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 6:13 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] History

Re: [U2] History of Prime Information

2013-04-26 Thread Daniel McGrath
Bingo. From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] on behalf of Kevin King [ke...@precisonline.com] Sent: Friday, 26 April 2013 7:22 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] History of Prime Information Vmark + Unidata

Re: [U2] History of Prime Information

2013-04-26 Thread David Taylor
: [U2] History of Prime Information Vmark + Unidata = Ardent - Informix - IBM - Rocket, right? On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 7:12 PM, David Taylor da...@sysmarkinfo.com wrote: If I'm not mistaken, there was another company in between Vmark and IBM. I believe (and there may have been some smoke

Re: [U2] History of Prime Information

2013-04-26 Thread Wjhonson
Okay but let's just talk about 1990-1993 How did Computer Vision exactly get its hands on Prime Information ? This happened *before* the final bankruptcy of Prime? Or did somehow Prime sell or spin off Computer Vision with Prime Information as well? Enquiring minds want to know