Re: [U2] Mysterious UV Error

2012-08-20 Thread Jeff Fitzgerald
Rick,

Your response was spot on - the site does use device licensing and it
appears uv is outputting some characters that result in the error.  Using
uvsh seems to be a viable workaround.

Thanks all for the help!  it's much appreciated!

Jeff Fitzgerald
Fitzgerald  Long, Inc.
www.fitzlong.com

On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 4:22 PM, Rick Nuckolls r...@lynden.com wrote:

 Starting the COMO from UV might be a trial under the circumstances; but
 the Unix script command could fill in.

 btw, using .../uv/bin/uvdls COUNT VOC gives me

 Verb 6 is not in your VOC

 Uvdls is the device licensing version of uv, and it does send a sequence
 of characters (and backspaces) to the terminal, in an attempt to retrieve
 the device IP address. Of course, this only works on wintegrate and
 Dynamicconnect (I think).

 The actual resulting visible message seems to have some variance in it,
 and 60 is certainly within scope.

 At uv 10.2, the uvdls executable is about 900 bytes longer than the uv
 executable. If the client has device licensing, odds are good that uv was
 replaced with the uvdls executable.

 -Rick


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Re: [U2] Mysterious UV Error

2012-08-20 Thread Phil Walker
Jeff,

My understanding from when I worked at VMARK, long ago, is that you should be 
using uvsh rather than uv anyway. Cannot remember the reason why but there was 
a reason back then anyway  (1992-1995).

Phil

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 Subject: Re: [U2] Mysterious UV Error
 
 Rick,
 
 Your response was spot on - the site does use device licensing and it
 appears uv is outputting some characters that result in the error.  Using
 uvsh seems to be a viable workaround.
 
 Thanks all for the help!  it's much appreciated!
 
 Jeff Fitzgerald
 Fitzgerald  Long, Inc.
 www.fitzlong.com
 
 On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 4:22 PM, Rick Nuckolls r...@lynden.com wrote:
 
  Starting the COMO from UV might be a trial under the circumstances;
  but the Unix script command could fill in.
 
  btw, using .../uv/bin/uvdls COUNT VOC gives me
 
  Verb 6 is not in your VOC
 
  Uvdls is the device licensing version of uv, and it does send a
  sequence of characters (and backspaces) to the terminal, in an attempt
  to retrieve the device IP address. Of course, this only works on
  wintegrate and Dynamicconnect (I think).
 
  The actual resulting visible message seems to have some variance in
  it, and 60 is certainly within scope.
 
  At uv 10.2, the uvdls executable is about 900 bytes longer than the uv
  executable. If the client has device licensing, odds are good that
  uv was replaced with the uvdls executable.
 
  -Rick
 
 
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Re: [U2] Mysterious UV Error

2012-08-17 Thread Dianne Ackerman

Jeff,
the Universe accounts can also have other LOGIN type records in their 
VOC, there could be one for the account name and one for the user name 
too.  Maybe those are doing something strange?

-Dianne

On 8/17/2012 3:46 PM, Jeff Fitzgerald wrote:

I have a client who's seeing a very odd UniVerse error.  Any thoughts about
it would be most appreciated!

This is a UNIX server running AIX 5.3 and UniVerse 10.2.7.

The UniVerse home directory is at /u1/uv - the following command is entered
at the UNIX prompt:

# /u1/uv/bin/uv COUNT VOC

the response is:

Verb 60 is not in your VOC.

Things I've checked:

*  There is no LOGIN record in the account VOC

*  There is no UV.LOGIN record in the uv account VOC

*  Same response when the command is run in various accounts, including uv

*  /u1/uv/bin/uv is an executable file and not a script

This one has me scratching my head.  The actual problem is with a C program
that forks a child to execute a UV session - the child dies with the same
error...

Probably something obvious that I can't see.  Help me out please!

Jeff Fitzgerald
Fitzgerald  Long, Inc.

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Re: [U2] Mysterious UV Error

2012-08-17 Thread Jeff Fitzgerald
Dianne,

Thanks!  Pretty sure this isn't the case, but I'll check just to make sure...

Jeff Fitzgerald


 Jeff,
 the Universe accounts can also have other LOGIN type records in their
 VOC, there could be one for the account name and one for the user name
 too.  Maybe those are doing something strange?
 -Dianne
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Re: [U2] Mysterious UV Error

2012-08-17 Thread Dianne Ackerman

Maybe the COUNT verb has been changed?
-Dianne


On 8/17/2012 4:02 PM, Allen Egerton wrote:

Hi Jeff,

Almost sounds like perhaps it's piping the results of the COUNT back
into stdin and re-processing it as a command.




On 8/17/2012 3:46 PM, Jeff Fitzgerald wrote:

I have a client who's seeing a very odd UniVerse error.  Any thoughts about
it would be most appreciated!

This is a UNIX server running AIX 5.3 and UniVerse 10.2.7.

The UniVerse home directory is at /u1/uv - the following command is entered
at the UNIX prompt:

# /u1/uv/bin/uv COUNT VOC

the response is:

Verb 60 is not in your VOC.

Things I've checked:

*  There is no LOGIN record in the account VOC

*  There is no UV.LOGIN record in the uv account VOC

*  Same response when the command is run in various accounts, including uv

*  /u1/uv/bin/uv is an executable file and not a script

This one has me scratching my head.  The actual problem is with a C program
that forks a child to execute a UV session - the child dies with the same
error...

Probably something obvious that I can't see.  Help me out please!

Jeff Fitzgerald
Fitzgerald  Long, Inc.

www.fitzlong.com
j...@fitzlong.com
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Re: [U2] Mysterious UV Error

2012-08-17 Thread Jeff Fitzgerald
Hi Allen,

Thanks for your thought.  It does look like that, except the same error
happens with any command - TIME, DATE, etc. all produce the verb 60
not in your VOC message

Jeff

On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Allen Egerton aeger...@pobox.com wrote:

 Hi Jeff,

 Almost sounds like perhaps it's piping the results of the COUNT back
 into stdin and re-processing it as a command.




 On 8/17/2012 3:46 PM, Jeff Fitzgerald wrote:
  I have a client who's seeing a very odd UniVerse error.  Any thoughts
 about
  it would be most appreciated!
 
  This is a UNIX server running AIX 5.3 and UniVerse 10.2.7.
 
  The UniVerse home directory is at /u1/uv - the following command is
 entered
  at the UNIX prompt:
 
  # /u1/uv/bin/uv COUNT VOC
 
  the response is:
 
  Verb 60 is not in your VOC.
 
  Things I've checked:
 
  *  There is no LOGIN record in the account VOC
 
  *  There is no UV.LOGIN record in the uv account VOC
 
  *  Same response when the command is run in various accounts, including
 uv
 
  *  /u1/uv/bin/uv is an executable file and not a script
 
  This one has me scratching my head.  The actual problem is with a C
 program
  that forks a child to execute a UV session - the child dies with the same
  error...
 
  Probably something obvious that I can't see.  Help me out please!
 
  Jeff Fitzgerald
  Fitzgerald  Long, Inc.
 
  www.fitzlong.com
  j...@fitzlong.com
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Re: [U2] Mysterious UV Error

2012-08-17 Thread Drew William Henderson
I know this may be really stretching, but is there an ON.EXIT VOC entry that is 
interfering with it?

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Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 4:16 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] Mysterious UV Error

Hi Allen,

Thanks for your thought.  It does look like that, except the same error happens 
with any command - TIME, DATE, etc. all produce the verb 60
not in your VOC message

Jeff

On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Allen Egerton aeger...@pobox.com wrote:

 Hi Jeff,

 Almost sounds like perhaps it's piping the results of the COUNT back 
 into stdin and re-processing it as a command.




 On 8/17/2012 3:46 PM, Jeff Fitzgerald wrote:
  I have a client who's seeing a very odd UniVerse error.  Any 
  thoughts
 about
  it would be most appreciated!
 
  This is a UNIX server running AIX 5.3 and UniVerse 10.2.7.
 
  The UniVerse home directory is at /u1/uv - the following command is
 entered
  at the UNIX prompt:
 
  # /u1/uv/bin/uv COUNT VOC
 
  the response is:
 
  Verb 60 is not in your VOC.
 
  Things I've checked:
 
  *  There is no LOGIN record in the account VOC
 
  *  There is no UV.LOGIN record in the uv account VOC
 
  *  Same response when the command is run in various accounts, 
  including
 uv
 
  *  /u1/uv/bin/uv is an executable file and not a script
 
  This one has me scratching my head.  The actual problem is with a C
 program
  that forks a child to execute a UV session - the child dies with the 
  same error...
 
  Probably something obvious that I can't see.  Help me out please!
 
  Jeff Fitzgerald
  Fitzgerald  Long, Inc.
 
  www.fitzlong.com
  j...@fitzlong.com
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Re: [U2] Mysterious UV Error

2012-08-17 Thread Robert

Are they using terminals or PCs?

Are they using an ADDS or WYSE emulation regardless of if they are using 
terminals or PCs?


The reason why I am asking is because I used to have a similiar error at 
one place where they had WYSE50 terminals.


There is a character sequence on those terminals that if printed to the 
screen causes the terminal to report back the model number of the 
terminal by entering them into the input buffer. I think it was ESC 
SPACE .


If you print this sequence to the screen and you have a WYSE50, it would 
enter a 50 for you at TCL which would then say 50 is not a verb or 
something like that. Same goes for WYSE60.


This is just a clue. I would rule out control characters at this point.

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On 8/17/2012 12:46 PM, Jeff Fitzgerald wrote:

I have a client who's seeing a very odd UniVerse error.  Any thoughts about
it would be most appreciated!

This is a UNIX server running AIX 5.3 and UniVerse 10.2.7.

The UniVerse home directory is at /u1/uv - the following command is entered
at the UNIX prompt:

# /u1/uv/bin/uv COUNT VOC

the response is:

Verb 60 is not in your VOC.

Things I've checked:

*  There is no LOGIN record in the account VOC

*  There is no UV.LOGIN record in the uv account VOC

*  Same response when the command is run in various accounts, including uv

*  /u1/uv/bin/uv is an executable file and not a script

This one has me scratching my head.  The actual problem is with a C program
that forks a child to execute a UV session - the child dies with the same
error...

Probably something obvious that I can't see.  Help me out please!

Jeff Fitzgerald
Fitzgerald  Long, Inc.

www.fitzlong.com
j...@fitzlong.com
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Re: [U2] Mysterious UV Error

2012-08-17 Thread Jeff Fitzgerald
Hi Drew!

Nope - no ON.EXIT.

Thanks!

jeff

On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Drew William Henderson 
d.hender...@moreheadstate.edu wrote:

 I know this may be really stretching, but is there an ON.EXIT VOC entry
 that is interfering with it?

 -Original Message-
 From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:
 u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Fitzgerald
 Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 4:16 PM
 To: U2 Users List
 Subject: Re: [U2] Mysterious UV Error

 Hi Allen,

 Thanks for your thought.  It does look like that, except the same error
 happens with any command - TIME, DATE, etc. all produce the verb 60
 not in your VOC message

 Jeff

 On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Allen Egerton aeger...@pobox.com wrote:

  Hi Jeff,
 
  Almost sounds like perhaps it's piping the results of the COUNT back
  into stdin and re-processing it as a command.
 
 
 
 
  On 8/17/2012 3:46 PM, Jeff Fitzgerald wrote:
   I have a client who's seeing a very odd UniVerse error.  Any
   thoughts
  about
   it would be most appreciated!
  
   This is a UNIX server running AIX 5.3 and UniVerse 10.2.7.
  
   The UniVerse home directory is at /u1/uv - the following command is
  entered
   at the UNIX prompt:
  
   # /u1/uv/bin/uv COUNT VOC
  
   the response is:
  
   Verb 60 is not in your VOC.
  
   Things I've checked:
  
   *  There is no LOGIN record in the account VOC
  
   *  There is no UV.LOGIN record in the uv account VOC
  
   *  Same response when the command is run in various accounts,
   including
  uv
  
   *  /u1/uv/bin/uv is an executable file and not a script
  
   This one has me scratching my head.  The actual problem is with a C
  program
   that forks a child to execute a UV session - the child dies with the
   same error...
  
   Probably something obvious that I can't see.  Help me out please!
  
   Jeff Fitzgerald
   Fitzgerald  Long, Inc.
  
   www.fitzlong.com
   j...@fitzlong.com
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Re: [U2] Mysterious UV Error

2012-08-17 Thread George Gallen
I'm on UV 10.0.2 and RHEL unix

The command works find as typed. (are you physically typing it, or running a 
script?)

I use the following script:

cat /usr/local/xeqtuv
#!/bin/bash
if [ $3 =  ]; then
   cd $1 ; /usr/uv/bin/uv $2
else
   cd $1 ; /usr/uv/bin/uv $2  $3
fi

Usage: xeqtuv SOURCEDIR UVCOMMAND {output-file}

George



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Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 3:47 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] Mysterious UV Error

I have a client who's seeing a very odd UniVerse error.  Any thoughts about
it would be most appreciated!

This is a UNIX server running AIX 5.3 and UniVerse 10.2.7.

The UniVerse home directory is at /u1/uv - the following command is entered
at the UNIX prompt:

# /u1/uv/bin/uv COUNT VOC

the response is:

Verb 60 is not in your VOC.

Things I've checked:

*  There is no LOGIN record in the account VOC

*  There is no UV.LOGIN record in the uv account VOC

*  Same response when the command is run in various accounts, including uv

*  /u1/uv/bin/uv is an executable file and not a script

This one has me scratching my head.  The actual problem is with a C program
that forks a child to execute a UV session - the child dies with the same
error...

Probably something obvious that I can't see.  Help me out please!

Jeff Fitzgerald
Fitzgerald  Long, Inc.

www.fitzlong.com
j...@fitzlong.com
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Re: [U2] Mysterious UV Error

2012-08-17 Thread Dan Fitzgerald

I'd use the truss command as root from AIX.
 
Open a new window as root (sudo is fine), then determine the pid of the sh at 
the other window (ps will give you that).
 
issue a truss -pf from the root window (the f will follow all of the forks), 
and watch as truss reports every system call made to AIX. The output will be a 
little bit large  somewhat cryptic, but I have the rosetta stone on my desk at 
work, so if you paste the output into a doc  send it to me, I'll be happy to 
take a look. It's possible that the issue won't be apparent because it occurs 
entirely inside uv programming (you can execute some lines of code without 
making a system call), but since it only occurs when instantiating uv from the 
aix prompt, there's probably something to see.
 
 Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 14:16:25 -0600
 From: j...@fitzlong.com
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: Re: [U2] Mysterious UV Error
 
 Hi Allen,
 
 Thanks for your thought.  It does look like that, except the same error
 happens with any command - TIME, DATE, etc. all produce the verb 60
 not in your VOC message
 
 Jeff
 
 On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Allen Egerton aeger...@pobox.com wrote:
 
  Hi Jeff,
 
  Almost sounds like perhaps it's piping the results of the COUNT back
  into stdin and re-processing it as a command.
 
 
 
 
  On 8/17/2012 3:46 PM, Jeff Fitzgerald wrote:
   I have a client who's seeing a very odd UniVerse error.  Any thoughts
  about
   it would be most appreciated!
  
   This is a UNIX server running AIX 5.3 and UniVerse 10.2.7.
  
   The UniVerse home directory is at /u1/uv - the following command is
  entered
   at the UNIX prompt:
  
   # /u1/uv/bin/uv COUNT VOC
  
   the response is:
  
   Verb 60 is not in your VOC.
  
   Things I've checked:
  
   *  There is no LOGIN record in the account VOC
  
   *  There is no UV.LOGIN record in the uv account VOC
  
   *  Same response when the command is run in various accounts, including
  uv
  
   *  /u1/uv/bin/uv is an executable file and not a script
  
   This one has me scratching my head.  The actual problem is with a C
  program
   that forks a child to execute a UV session - the child dies with the same
   error...
  
   Probably something obvious that I can't see.  Help me out please!
  
   Jeff Fitzgerald
   Fitzgerald  Long, Inc.
  
   www.fitzlong.com
   j...@fitzlong.com
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Re: [U2] Mysterious UV Error

2012-08-17 Thread Drew William Henderson
Does it happen if you just do a uv to enter universe in the account?

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Hi Drew!

Nope - no ON.EXIT.

Thanks!

jeff

On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Drew William Henderson  
d.hender...@moreheadstate.edu wrote:

 I know this may be really stretching, but is there an ON.EXIT VOC 
 entry that is interfering with it?

 -Original Message-
 From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:
 u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Fitzgerald
 Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 4:16 PM
 To: U2 Users List
 Subject: Re: [U2] Mysterious UV Error

 Hi Allen,

 Thanks for your thought.  It does look like that, except the same 
 error happens with any command - TIME, DATE, etc. all produce the verb 
 60
 not in your VOC message

 Jeff

 On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Allen Egerton aeger...@pobox.com wrote:

  Hi Jeff,
 
  Almost sounds like perhaps it's piping the results of the COUNT back 
  into stdin and re-processing it as a command.
 
 
 
 
  On 8/17/2012 3:46 PM, Jeff Fitzgerald wrote:
   I have a client who's seeing a very odd UniVerse error.  Any 
   thoughts
  about
   it would be most appreciated!
  
   This is a UNIX server running AIX 5.3 and UniVerse 10.2.7.
  
   The UniVerse home directory is at /u1/uv - the following command 
   is
  entered
   at the UNIX prompt:
  
   # /u1/uv/bin/uv COUNT VOC
  
   the response is:
  
   Verb 60 is not in your VOC.
  
   Things I've checked:
  
   *  There is no LOGIN record in the account VOC
  
   *  There is no UV.LOGIN record in the uv account VOC
  
   *  Same response when the command is run in various accounts, 
   including
  uv
  
   *  /u1/uv/bin/uv is an executable file and not a script
  
   This one has me scratching my head.  The actual problem is with a 
   C
  program
   that forks a child to execute a UV session - the child dies with 
   the same error...
  
   Probably something obvious that I can't see.  Help me out please!
  
   Jeff Fitzgerald
   Fitzgerald  Long, Inc.
  
   www.fitzlong.com
   j...@fitzlong.com
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Re: [U2] Mysterious UV Error

2012-08-17 Thread Wjhonson
Like Diane and Drew, if this sort of error happens on ANY command, then your 
issue is with the login and logout logic.

You can have an ON.EXIT that's true, but you can also have an ON.ABORT which 
may be triggered when an odd event causes the session to Abort in Universe.

Not only can you have a universal LOGIN, but you can have an account LOGIN and 
a VOC entry with the same name as the account as well.  You can also have a 
setting in the UV.USERS (I believe) or perhaps the UV.ACCOUNTS which directs 
some specific event whenever any item tries to get into that account.

Try to log into that account with a standard TELNET session, set your capturing 
on for the session and then review the log to see if any messages are whizzing 
past.




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From: Jeff Fitzgerald j...@fitzlong.com
To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Fri, Aug 17, 2012 1:26 pm
Subject: Re: [U2] Mysterious UV Error


Hi Drew!

Nope - no ON.EXIT.

Thanks!

jeff

On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Drew William Henderson 
d.hender...@moreheadstate.edu wrote:

 I know this may be really stretching, but is there an ON.EXIT VOC entry
 that is interfering with it?

 -Original Message-
 From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:
 u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Fitzgerald
 Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 4:16 PM
 To: U2 Users List
 Subject: Re: [U2] Mysterious UV Error

 Hi Allen,

 Thanks for your thought.  It does look like that, except the same error
 happens with any command - TIME, DATE, etc. all produce the verb 60
 not in your VOC message

 Jeff

 On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Allen Egerton aeger...@pobox.com wrote:

  Hi Jeff,
 
  Almost sounds like perhaps it's piping the results of the COUNT back
  into stdin and re-processing it as a command.
 
 
 
 
  On 8/17/2012 3:46 PM, Jeff Fitzgerald wrote:
   I have a client who's seeing a very odd UniVerse error.  Any
   thoughts
  about
   it would be most appreciated!
  
   This is a UNIX server running AIX 5.3 and UniVerse 10.2.7.
  
   The UniVerse home directory is at /u1/uv - the following command is
  entered
   at the UNIX prompt:
  
   # /u1/uv/bin/uv COUNT VOC
  
   the response is:
  
   Verb 60 is not in your VOC.
  
   Things I've checked:
  
   *  There is no LOGIN record in the account VOC
  
   *  There is no UV.LOGIN record in the uv account VOC
  
   *  Same response when the command is run in various accounts,
   including
  uv
  
   *  /u1/uv/bin/uv is an executable file and not a script
  
   This one has me scratching my head.  The actual problem is with a C
  program
   that forks a child to execute a UV session - the child dies with the
   same error...
  
   Probably something obvious that I can't see.  Help me out please!
  
   Jeff Fitzgerald
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Re: [U2] Mysterious UV Error

2012-08-17 Thread Rick Nuckolls
I think that Robert made a good guess.

Any site that has a c program spawning this could also have custom code testing 
the terminal type.

What happens if you us /u1/uv/bin/uvsh COUNT VOC instead?

-Rick

-Original Message-
From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Robert
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 1:25 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] Mysterious UV Error

Are they using terminals or PCs?

Are they using an ADDS or WYSE emulation regardless of if they are using 
terminals or PCs?

The reason why I am asking is because I used to have a similiar error at 
one place where they had WYSE50 terminals.

There is a character sequence on those terminals that if printed to the 
screen causes the terminal to report back the model number of the 
terminal by entering them into the input buffer. I think it was ESC 
SPACE .

If you print this sequence to the screen and you have a WYSE50, it would 
enter a 50 for you at TCL which would then say 50 is not a verb or 
something like that. Same goes for WYSE60.

This is just a clue. I would rule out control characters at this point.

Robert Norman
.
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23441 Golden Springs Dr., #289, Diamond Bar, CA 91765
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On 8/17/2012 12:46 PM, Jeff Fitzgerald wrote:
 I have a client who's seeing a very odd UniVerse error.  Any thoughts about
 it would be most appreciated!

 This is a UNIX server running AIX 5.3 and UniVerse 10.2.7.

 The UniVerse home directory is at /u1/uv - the following command is entered
 at the UNIX prompt:

 # /u1/uv/bin/uv COUNT VOC

 the response is:

 Verb 60 is not in your VOC.

 Things I've checked:

 *  There is no LOGIN record in the account VOC

 *  There is no UV.LOGIN record in the uv account VOC

 *  Same response when the command is run in various accounts, including uv

 *  /u1/uv/bin/uv is an executable file and not a script

 This one has me scratching my head.  The actual problem is with a C program
 that forks a child to execute a UV session - the child dies with the same
 error...

 Probably something obvious that I can't see.  Help me out please!

 Jeff Fitzgerald
 Fitzgerald  Long, Inc.

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Re: [U2] Mysterious UV Error

2012-08-17 Thread Rick Nuckolls
You might check to make sure that uvsh has not been redirected, since uvsh is 
normally invoked by uv.

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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Rick Nuckolls
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 1:34 PM
To: 'U2 Users List'
Subject: Re: [U2] Mysterious UV Error

I think that Robert made a good guess.

Any site that has a c program spawning this could also have custom code testing 
the terminal type.

What happens if you us /u1/uv/bin/uvsh COUNT VOC instead?

-Rick

-Original Message-
From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Robert
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 1:25 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] Mysterious UV Error

Are they using terminals or PCs?

Are they using an ADDS or WYSE emulation regardless of if they are using 
terminals or PCs?

The reason why I am asking is because I used to have a similiar error at 
one place where they had WYSE50 terminals.

There is a character sequence on those terminals that if printed to the 
screen causes the terminal to report back the model number of the 
terminal by entering them into the input buffer. I think it was ESC 
SPACE .

If you print this sequence to the screen and you have a WYSE50, it would 
enter a 50 for you at TCL which would then say 50 is not a verb or 
something like that. Same goes for WYSE60.

This is just a clue. I would rule out control characters at this point.

Robert Norman
.
ROBERT NORMAN AND ASSOCIATES
23441 Golden Springs Dr., #289, Diamond Bar, CA 91765
(951) 541-1668
i...@keyway.net mailto:i...@keyway.net
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Affordable UNIVERSE programming services for PICK/BASIC, DATA/BASIC, 
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On 8/17/2012 12:46 PM, Jeff Fitzgerald wrote:
 I have a client who's seeing a very odd UniVerse error.  Any thoughts about
 it would be most appreciated!

 This is a UNIX server running AIX 5.3 and UniVerse 10.2.7.

 The UniVerse home directory is at /u1/uv - the following command is entered
 at the UNIX prompt:

 # /u1/uv/bin/uv COUNT VOC

 the response is:

 Verb 60 is not in your VOC.

 Things I've checked:

 *  There is no LOGIN record in the account VOC

 *  There is no UV.LOGIN record in the uv account VOC

 *  Same response when the command is run in various accounts, including uv

 *  /u1/uv/bin/uv is an executable file and not a script

 This one has me scratching my head.  The actual problem is with a C program
 that forks a child to execute a UV session - the child dies with the same
 error...

 Probably something obvious that I can't see.  Help me out please!

 Jeff Fitzgerald
 Fitzgerald  Long, Inc.

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Re: [U2] Mysterious UV Error

2012-08-17 Thread Jeff Fitzgerald
Thanks, all, for the suggestions!  Lots of good thoughts here!  The client
is in the UK and they're closed for the weekend so can't do any more
testing for me until Monday morning.  I will have them check into the
things that have been suggested and report back...

Robert - good though on the terminal wackiness; I'm pretty sure the error
happens when scripted too, but well worth looking into some other
emulations, etc.

Dan - I thought a truss was something us old guys wore when we had
hernias! ;-) I'll try what you're suggesting; sounds like a great tool!

Drew - uv alone works fine, no problems.

Rick - Thanks, I will pursue the uvsh tip!

Really appreciate all the help - have a great weekend, all.

Jeff Fitzgerald

On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Rick Nuckolls r...@lynden.com wrote:

 You might check to make sure that uvsh has not been redirected, since uvsh
 is normally invoked by uv.

 -Original Message-
 From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:
 u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Rick Nuckolls
 Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 1:34 PM
 To: 'U2 Users List'
 Subject: Re: [U2] Mysterious UV Error

 I think that Robert made a good guess.

 Any site that has a c program spawning this could also have custom code
 testing the terminal type.

 What happens if you us /u1/uv/bin/uvsh COUNT VOC instead?

 -Rick

 -Original Message-
 From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:
 u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Robert
 Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 1:25 PM
 To: U2 Users List
 Subject: Re: [U2] Mysterious UV Error

 Are they using terminals or PCs?

 Are they using an ADDS or WYSE emulation regardless of if they are using
 terminals or PCs?

 The reason why I am asking is because I used to have a similiar error at
 one place where they had WYSE50 terminals.

 There is a character sequence on those terminals that if printed to the
 screen causes the terminal to report back the model number of the
 terminal by entering them into the input buffer. I think it was ESC
 SPACE .

 If you print this sequence to the screen and you have a WYSE50, it would
 enter a 50 for you at TCL which would then say 50 is not a verb or
 something like that. Same goes for WYSE60.

 This is just a clue. I would rule out control characters at this point.

 Robert Norman
 .
 ROBERT NORMAN AND ASSOCIATES
 23441 Golden Springs Dr., #289, Diamond Bar, CA 91765
 (951) 541-1668
 i...@keyway.net mailto:i...@keyway.net
 http://users.keyway.net/~ice/ http://users.keyway.net/%7Eice/
 Affordable UNIVERSE programming services for PICK/BASIC, DATA/BASIC,
 UniVerse
 Basic, UniBasic, R/BASIC, jBC.

 On 8/17/2012 12:46 PM, Jeff Fitzgerald wrote:
  I have a client who's seeing a very odd UniVerse error.  Any thoughts
 about
  it would be most appreciated!
 
  This is a UNIX server running AIX 5.3 and UniVerse 10.2.7.
 
  The UniVerse home directory is at /u1/uv - the following command is
 entered
  at the UNIX prompt:
 
  # /u1/uv/bin/uv COUNT VOC
 
  the response is:
 
  Verb 60 is not in your VOC.
 
  Things I've checked:
 
  *  There is no LOGIN record in the account VOC
 
  *  There is no UV.LOGIN record in the uv account VOC
 
  *  Same response when the command is run in various accounts, including
 uv
 
  *  /u1/uv/bin/uv is an executable file and not a script
 
  This one has me scratching my head.  The actual problem is with a C
 program
  that forks a child to execute a UV session - the child dies with the same
  error...
 
  Probably something obvious that I can't see.  Help me out please!
 
  Jeff Fitzgerald
  Fitzgerald  Long, Inc.
 
  www.fitzlong.com
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Re: [U2] Mysterious UV Error

2012-08-17 Thread John Jenkins
Try a COMO and see if it's coming from a terminal ENQ response. Also worth 
checking if uvsh has been aliases at the Unix level.

JayJay

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On 17 Aug 2012, at 21:33, Rick Nuckolls r...@lynden.com wrote:

 I think that Robert made a good guess.
 
 Any site that has a c program spawning this could also have custom code 
 testing the terminal type.
 
 What happens if you us /u1/uv/bin/uvsh COUNT VOC instead?
 
 -Rick
 
 -Original Message-
 From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
 [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Robert
 Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 1:25 PM
 To: U2 Users List
 Subject: Re: [U2] Mysterious UV Error
 
 Are they using terminals or PCs?
 
 Are they using an ADDS or WYSE emulation regardless of if they are using 
 terminals or PCs?
 
 The reason why I am asking is because I used to have a similiar error at 
 one place where they had WYSE50 terminals.
 
 There is a character sequence on those terminals that if printed to the 
 screen causes the terminal to report back the model number of the 
 terminal by entering them into the input buffer. I think it was ESC 
 SPACE .
 
 If you print this sequence to the screen and you have a WYSE50, it would 
 enter a 50 for you at TCL which would then say 50 is not a verb or 
 something like that. Same goes for WYSE60.
 
 This is just a clue. I would rule out control characters at this point.
 
 Robert Norman
 .
 ROBERT NORMAN AND ASSOCIATES
 23441 Golden Springs Dr., #289, Diamond Bar, CA 91765
 (951) 541-1668
 i...@keyway.net mailto:i...@keyway.net
 http://users.keyway.net/~ice/ http://users.keyway.net/%7Eice/
 Affordable UNIVERSE programming services for PICK/BASIC, DATA/BASIC, 
 UniVerse
 Basic, UniBasic, R/BASIC, jBC.
 
 On 8/17/2012 12:46 PM, Jeff Fitzgerald wrote:
 I have a client who's seeing a very odd UniVerse error.  Any thoughts about
 it would be most appreciated!
 
 This is a UNIX server running AIX 5.3 and UniVerse 10.2.7.
 
 The UniVerse home directory is at /u1/uv - the following command is entered
 at the UNIX prompt:
 
 # /u1/uv/bin/uv COUNT VOC
 
 the response is:
 
 Verb 60 is not in your VOC.
 
 Things I've checked:
 
 *  There is no LOGIN record in the account VOC
 
 *  There is no UV.LOGIN record in the uv account VOC
 
 *  Same response when the command is run in various accounts, including uv
 
 *  /u1/uv/bin/uv is an executable file and not a script
 
 This one has me scratching my head.  The actual problem is with a C program
 that forks a child to execute a UV session - the child dies with the same
 error...
 
 Probably something obvious that I can't see.  Help me out please!
 
 Jeff Fitzgerald
 Fitzgerald  Long, Inc.
 
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Re: [U2] Mysterious UV Error

2012-08-17 Thread Rick Nuckolls
Starting the COMO from UV might be a trial under the circumstances; but the 
Unix script command could fill in.

btw, using .../uv/bin/uvdls COUNT VOC gives me

Verb 6 is not in your VOC

Uvdls is the device licensing version of uv, and it does send a sequence of 
characters (and backspaces) to the terminal, in an attempt to retrieve the 
device IP address. Of course, this only works on wintegrate and Dynamicconnect 
(I think).

The actual resulting visible message seems to have some variance in it, and 
60 is certainly within scope.

At uv 10.2, the uvdls executable is about 900 bytes longer than the uv 
executable. If the client has device licensing, odds are good that uv was 
replaced with the uvdls executable.

-Rick

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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of John Jenkins
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 2:35 PM
To: U2 Users List
Cc: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] Mysterious UV Error

Try a COMO and see if it's coming from a terminal ENQ response. Also worth 
checking if uvsh has been aliases at the Unix level.

JayJay

Sent from my iPad

On 17 Aug 2012, at 21:33, Rick Nuckolls r...@lynden.com wrote:

 I think that Robert made a good guess.
 
 Any site that has a c program spawning this could also have custom code 
 testing the terminal type.
 
 What happens if you us /u1/uv/bin/uvsh COUNT VOC instead?
 
 -Rick
 
 -Original Message-
 From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
 [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Robert
 Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 1:25 PM
 To: U2 Users List
 Subject: Re: [U2] Mysterious UV Error
 
 Are they using terminals or PCs?
 
 Are they using an ADDS or WYSE emulation regardless of if they are using 
 terminals or PCs?
 
 The reason why I am asking is because I used to have a similiar error at 
 one place where they had WYSE50 terminals.
 
 There is a character sequence on those terminals that if printed to the 
 screen causes the terminal to report back the model number of the 
 terminal by entering them into the input buffer. I think it was ESC 
 SPACE .
 
 If you print this sequence to the screen and you have a WYSE50, it would 
 enter a 50 for you at TCL which would then say 50 is not a verb or 
 something like that. Same goes for WYSE60.
 
 This is just a clue. I would rule out control characters at this point.
 
 Robert Norman
 .
 ROBERT NORMAN AND ASSOCIATES
 23441 Golden Springs Dr., #289, Diamond Bar, CA 91765
 (951) 541-1668
 i...@keyway.net mailto:i...@keyway.net
 http://users.keyway.net/~ice/ http://users.keyway.net/%7Eice/
 Affordable UNIVERSE programming services for PICK/BASIC, DATA/BASIC, 
 UniVerse
 Basic, UniBasic, R/BASIC, jBC.
 
 On 8/17/2012 12:46 PM, Jeff Fitzgerald wrote:
 I have a client who's seeing a very odd UniVerse error.  Any thoughts about
 it would be most appreciated!
 
 This is a UNIX server running AIX 5.3 and UniVerse 10.2.7.
 
 The UniVerse home directory is at /u1/uv - the following command is entered
 at the UNIX prompt:
 
 # /u1/uv/bin/uv COUNT VOC
 
 the response is:
 
 Verb 60 is not in your VOC.
 
 Things I've checked:
 
 *  There is no LOGIN record in the account VOC
 
 *  There is no UV.LOGIN record in the uv account VOC
 
 *  Same response when the command is run in various accounts, including uv
 
 *  /u1/uv/bin/uv is an executable file and not a script
 
 This one has me scratching my head.  The actual problem is with a C program
 that forks a child to execute a UV session - the child dies with the same
 error...
 
 Probably something obvious that I can't see.  Help me out please!
 
 Jeff Fitzgerald
 Fitzgerald  Long, Inc.
 
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