RE: Universe on XP (Personal Edition)
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] That's the problem. Telnet isn't being kicked out. I am doing this (start/stop) from the command line already. No big deal though. I just thought it was kind of odd. We run the 'real' system on unix and linux where I don't have such troubles. Anthony It probably works out quite nicely NOT to suddenly chuck out users and kill your running apps when you shutdown UV. It might have the insignificant side-effect of PREVENTING data data corruption. Seriously though; it is kinda obvious that you want all running processes to finish gracefully before stopping UV isn't it? Stuart ** This email message and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of addressed recipient(s). If you have received this email in error please notify the Spotless IS Support Centre (61 3 9269 7555) immediately who will advise further action. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been scanned for the presence of computer viruses. ** -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
RE: Universe on XP (Personal Edition)
this is proper sequence of shutting UV off net stop uvtelnet net stop universe net stop hsrexec net stop unirpc this is proper sequence of starting UV up net start universe net start uvtelnet net start unirpc net start hsrexec Sergey Eremenko -Original Message- From: Anthony Dzikiewicz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 11:31 AM To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject: Universe on XP (Personal Edition) So, I am doing a kind of odd ball thing. I wrote some UV Basic programs to create batch files that are run via the scheduled tasks. I don't want Universe running on my machine all the time. So, I created a couple of '.bat' files to start and stop universe, which are also set up as scheduled tasks. For example, stopuv bat file is NET STOP UniVerse Telnet Service NET STOP UniVerse REXEC Service NET STOP UniVerse Resource Service NET STOP Uni RPC Service This appears to work. The messages come up as everything being successful. I do a 'NET START' to see the services running and it doesn't show any of the Universe processes. However, I then realize that I am still logged into Universe in the PC and it is still alive and well. Is this a bug ? If I exit the session and then retry it, I wont be able to log in. Also, If I stop Universe the gui way from the control panel, I get the same result. Does this happen on all windows platforms ? What if I were shutting down to perform a backup and yet people were still messing with the data. Anthony -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
RE: Universe on XP (Personal Edition)
I use the same technique for starting D3, mvBASE, IIS, and other services form desktop shortcuts. Stopping services with a kill um all, let God sort um out macro like this can be problematic, it really depends on the service, but it's a nice way to free resources. You may see the command window flash as a BAT is executed, but if something is wrong you won't be able to catch the errors. Depending on how thorough you want to be, I recommend writing more code so that your U2 systems update a Windows file when they boot and shutdown. You can then use a script (WSH) from your BAT which verifies the status before termination, maybe with a pause if the status is unexpected - like if users are still logged-in or some other processes are running. HTH, Tony -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony Dzikiewicz Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 11:31 AM To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject: Universe on XP (Personal Edition) So, I am doing a kind of odd ball thing. I wrote some UV Basic programs to create batch files that are run via the scheduled tasks. I don't want Universe running on my machine all the time. So, I created a couple of '.bat' files to start and stop universe, which are also set up as scheduled tasks. For example, stopuv bat file is NET STOP UniVerse Telnet Service NET STOP UniVerse REXEC Service NET STOP UniVerse Resource Service NET STOP Uni RPC Service This appears to work. The messages come up as everything being successful. I do a 'NET START' to see the services running and it doesn't show any of the Universe processes. However, I then realize that I am still logged into Universe in the PC and it is still alive and well. Is this a bug ? If I exit the session and then retry it, I wont be able to log in. Also, If I stop Universe the gui way from the control panel, I get the same result. Does this happen on all windows platforms ? What if I were shutting down to perform a backup and yet people were still messing with the data. Anthony -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
RE: Universe on XP (Personal Edition)
Tony, Willing to share any of those scripts? Also, does anyone have a UinData version of these start/shutdown scripts? - Charles Scripted Barouch From: Tony Gravagno [EMAIL PROTECTED] I use the same technique for starting D3, mvBASE, IIS, and other services form desktop shortcuts. -- Get Results from KeyAlly.com Rely on Key Ally www.KeyAlly.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
RE: Universe on XP (Personal Edition)
OK I just did it your way and I got the same results. I did a startuv, logged in via telnet, did a stopuv - telnet session is still alive and well. The book says you can use 'net' commands via the actual program or by using the 'description'. They should both do the same thing no ? Anthony -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eremenko, Sergey Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 2:35 PM To: 'U2 Users Discussion List' Subject:RE: Universe on XP (Personal Edition) this is proper sequence of shutting UV off net stop uvtelnet net stop universe net stop hsrexec net stop unirpc this is proper sequence of starting UV up net start universe net start uvtelnet net start unirpc net start hsrexec Sergey Eremenko -Original Message- From: Anthony Dzikiewicz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 11:31 AM To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject: Universe on XP (Personal Edition) So, I am doing a kind of odd ball thing. I wrote some UV Basic programs to create batch files that are run via the scheduled tasks. I don't want Universe running on my machine all the time. So, I created a couple of '.bat' files to start and stop universe, which are also set up as scheduled tasks. For example, stopuv bat file is NET STOP UniVerse Telnet Service NET STOP UniVerse REXEC Service NET STOP UniVerse Resource Service NET STOP Uni RPC Service This appears to work. The messages come up as everything being successful. I do a 'NET START' to see the services running and it doesn't show any of the Universe processes. However, I then realize that I am still logged into Universe in the PC and it is still alive and well. Is this a bug ? If I exit the session and then retry it, I wont be able to log in. Also, If I stop Universe the gui way from the control panel, I get the same result. Does this happen on all windows platforms ? What if I were shutting down to perform a backup and yet people were still messing with the data. Anthony -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
RE: Universe on XP (Personal Edition)
OK. I've done some testing. It appears that your telnet connection to localhost UV will stay alive until you will leave that connection. Even if universe itself stopped, you still able to run simple commands like LISTU, LISTF, so on. I think that if you want to perform smooth clean and no-troubles UV shutdown, you MUST do it from outside of your existing connection. For instance, you can initiate scheduled command to execute your stopuv.bat by invoke of AT command from your telnet session. It will means that stopuv.bat will execute in different content than your UV telnet session. And in this case your telnet connection will be kicked out for sure. My $.02 Sergey Eremenko. -Original Message- From: Anthony Dzikiewicz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 1:14 PM To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject: RE: Universe on XP (Personal Edition) I understand. Im just testing this at the command line. Here is the output of the stop; C:\SCRIPTSstopuv C:\SCRIPTSnet stop uvtelnet The UniVerse Telnet Service service is stopping. The UniVerse Telnet Service service was stopped successfully. C:\SCRIPTSnet stop universe The UniVerse Resource Service service is stopping. The UniVerse Resource Service service was stopped successfully. C:\SCRIPTSnet stop hsrexec The UniVerse REXEC Service service is stopping. The UniVerse REXEC Service service was stopped successfully. C:\SCRIPTSnet stop unirpc The Uni RPC Service service is stopping. The Uni RPC Service service was stopped successfully. C:\SCRIPTStype stopuv.bat net stop uvtelnet net stop universe net stop hsrexec net stop unirpc C:\SCRIPTS XP has a 'thing' where you can do something like run1.bat run2.bat or run1.bat || run2.bat This says that the second command runs only if the first is not successful or vice versa. So, with this you could say stop and if it fails go to try again until it stops. The problem is that is coming back 'ok'. It would be nice to do a 'ps -ef | grep uv' , but I don't think there is a windows equivalent. Anthony -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Gravagno Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 3:49 PM To: 'U2 Users Discussion List' Subject:RE: Universe on XP (Personal Edition) I use the same technique for starting D3, mvBASE, IIS, and other services form desktop shortcuts. Stopping services with a kill um all, let God sort um out macro like this can be problematic, it really depends on the service, but it's a nice way to free resources. You may see the command window flash as a BAT is executed, but if something is wrong you won't be able to catch the errors. Depending on how thorough you want to be, I recommend writing more code so that your U2 systems update a Windows file when they boot and shutdown. You can then use a script (WSH) from your BAT which verifies the status before termination, maybe with a pause if the status is unexpected - like if users are still logged-in or some other processes are running. HTH, Tony -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony Dzikiewicz Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 11:31 AM To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject: Universe on XP (Personal Edition) So, I am doing a kind of odd ball thing. I wrote some UV Basic programs to create batch files that are run via the scheduled tasks. I don't want Universe running on my machine all the time. So, I created a couple of '.bat' files to start and stop universe, which are also set up as scheduled tasks. For example, stopuv bat file is NET STOP UniVerse Telnet Service NET STOP UniVerse REXEC Service NET STOP UniVerse Resource Service NET STOP Uni RPC Service This appears to work. The messages come up as everything being successful. I do a 'NET START' to see the services running and it doesn't show any of the Universe processes. However, I then realize that I am still logged into Universe in the PC and it is still alive and well. Is this a bug ? If I exit the session and then retry it, I wont be able to log in. Also, If I stop Universe the gui way from the control panel, I get the same result. Does this happen on all windows platforms ? What if I were shutting down to perform a backup and yet people were still messing with the data. Anthony -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
RE: Universe on XP (Personal Edition)
That's the problem. Telnet isn't being kicked out. I am doing this (start/stop) from the command line already. No big deal though. I just thought it was kind of odd. We run the 'real' system on unix and linux where I don't have such troubles. Anthony -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eremenko, Sergey Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 4:20 PM To: 'U2 Users Discussion List' Subject:RE: Universe on XP (Personal Edition) OK. I've done some testing. It appears that your telnet connection to localhost UV will stay alive until you will leave that connection. Even if universe itself stopped, you still able to run simple commands like LISTU, LISTF, so on. I think that if you want to perform smooth clean and no-troubles UV shutdown, you MUST do it from outside of your existing connection. For instance, you can initiate scheduled command to execute your stopuv.bat by invoke of AT command from your telnet session. It will means that stopuv.bat will execute in different content than your UV telnet session. And in this case your telnet connection will be kicked out for sure. My $.02 Sergey Eremenko. -Original Message- From: Anthony Dzikiewicz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 1:14 PM To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject: RE: Universe on XP (Personal Edition) I understand. Im just testing this at the command line. Here is the output of the stop; C:\SCRIPTSstopuv C:\SCRIPTSnet stop uvtelnet The UniVerse Telnet Service service is stopping. The UniVerse Telnet Service service was stopped successfully. C:\SCRIPTSnet stop universe The UniVerse Resource Service service is stopping. The UniVerse Resource Service service was stopped successfully. C:\SCRIPTSnet stop hsrexec The UniVerse REXEC Service service is stopping. The UniVerse REXEC Service service was stopped successfully. C:\SCRIPTSnet stop unirpc The Uni RPC Service service is stopping. The Uni RPC Service service was stopped successfully. C:\SCRIPTStype stopuv.bat net stop uvtelnet net stop universe net stop hsrexec net stop unirpc C:\SCRIPTS XP has a 'thing' where you can do something like run1.bat run2.bat or run1.bat || run2.bat This says that the second command runs only if the first is not successful or vice versa. So, with this you could say stop and if it fails go to try again until it stops. The problem is that is coming back 'ok'. It would be nice to do a 'ps -ef | grep uv' , but I don't think there is a windows equivalent. Anthony -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Gravagno Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 3:49 PM To: 'U2 Users Discussion List' Subject:RE: Universe on XP (Personal Edition) I use the same technique for starting D3, mvBASE, IIS, and other services form desktop shortcuts. Stopping services with a kill um all, let God sort um out macro like this can be problematic, it really depends on the service, but it's a nice way to free resources. You may see the command window flash as a BAT is executed, but if something is wrong you won't be able to catch the errors. Depending on how thorough you want to be, I recommend writing more code so that your U2 systems update a Windows file when they boot and shutdown. You can then use a script (WSH) from your BAT which verifies the status before termination, maybe with a pause if the status is unexpected - like if users are still logged-in or some other processes are running. HTH, Tony -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony Dzikiewicz Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 11:31 AM To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject: Universe on XP (Personal Edition) So, I am doing a kind of odd ball thing. I wrote some UV Basic programs to create batch files that are run via the scheduled tasks. I don't want Universe running on my machine all the time. So, I created a couple of '.bat' files to start and stop universe, which are also set up as scheduled tasks. For example, stopuv bat file is NET STOP UniVerse Telnet Service NET STOP UniVerse REXEC Service NET STOP UniVerse Resource Service NET STOP Uni RPC Service This appears to work. The messages come up as everything being successful. I do a 'NET START' to see the services running and it doesn't show any of the Universe processes. However, I then realize that I am still logged into Universe in the PC and it is still alive and well. Is this a bug ? If I exit the session and then retry it, I wont be able to log in. Also, If I stop Universe the gui way from the control panel, I get the same result. Does this happen on all windows platforms ? What if I were shutting down to perform a backup and yet people were still messing with the data. Anthony -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com
RE: Universe on XP (Personal Edition)
(I'm talking about UV / NT tandem - I'm not Unix guru) Unfortunately, stopping of UV telnet service will not log users out; it will just prevent future logons via telnet. Untill tl_server.exe process (corresponded to your connection to local UV) is not terminating by something, it will stay here and you will be able to see. You'd better log this connection out from outside or just kill this process. Sergey Eremenko -Original Message- From: Anthony Dzikiewicz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 2:14 PM To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject: RE: Universe on XP (Personal Edition) That's the problem. Telnet isn't being kicked out. I am doing this (start/stop) from the command line already. No big deal though. I just thought it was kind of odd. We run the 'real' system on unix and linux where I don't have such troubles. Anthony -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eremenko, Sergey Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 4:20 PM To: 'U2 Users Discussion List' Subject:RE: Universe on XP (Personal Edition) OK. I've done some testing. It appears that your telnet connection to localhost UV will stay alive until you will leave that connection. Even if universe itself stopped, you still able to run simple commands like LISTU, LISTF, so on. I think that if you want to perform smooth clean and no-troubles UV shutdown, you MUST do it from outside of your existing connection. For instance, you can initiate scheduled command to execute your stopuv.bat by invoke of AT command from your telnet session. It will means that stopuv.bat will execute in different content than your UV telnet session. And in this case your telnet connection will be kicked out for sure. My $.02 Sergey Eremenko. -Original Message- From: Anthony Dzikiewicz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 1:14 PM To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject: RE: Universe on XP (Personal Edition) I understand. Im just testing this at the command line. Here is the output of the stop; C:\SCRIPTSstopuv C:\SCRIPTSnet stop uvtelnet The UniVerse Telnet Service service is stopping. The UniVerse Telnet Service service was stopped successfully. C:\SCRIPTSnet stop universe The UniVerse Resource Service service is stopping. The UniVerse Resource Service service was stopped successfully. C:\SCRIPTSnet stop hsrexec The UniVerse REXEC Service service is stopping. The UniVerse REXEC Service service was stopped successfully. C:\SCRIPTSnet stop unirpc The Uni RPC Service service is stopping. The Uni RPC Service service was stopped successfully. C:\SCRIPTStype stopuv.bat net stop uvtelnet net stop universe net stop hsrexec net stop unirpc C:\SCRIPTS XP has a 'thing' where you can do something like run1.bat run2.bat or run1.bat || run2.bat This says that the second command runs only if the first is not successful or vice versa. So, with this you could say stop and if it fails go to try again until it stops. The problem is that is coming back 'ok'. It would be nice to do a 'ps -ef | grep uv' , but I don't think there is a windows equivalent. Anthony -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Gravagno Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 3:49 PM To: 'U2 Users Discussion List' Subject:RE: Universe on XP (Personal Edition) I use the same technique for starting D3, mvBASE, IIS, and other services form desktop shortcuts. Stopping services with a kill um all, let God sort um out macro like this can be problematic, it really depends on the service, but it's a nice way to free resources. You may see the command window flash as a BAT is executed, but if something is wrong you won't be able to catch the errors. Depending on how thorough you want to be, I recommend writing more code so that your U2 systems update a Windows file when they boot and shutdown. You can then use a script (WSH) from your BAT which verifies the status before termination, maybe with a pause if the status is unexpected - like if users are still logged-in or some other processes are running. HTH, Tony -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony Dzikiewicz Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 11:31 AM To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject: Universe on XP (Personal Edition) So, I am doing a kind of odd ball thing. I wrote some UV Basic programs to create batch files that are run via the scheduled tasks. I don't want Universe running on my machine all the time. So, I created a couple of '.bat' files to start and stop universe, which are also set up as scheduled tasks. For example, stopuv bat file is NET STOP UniVerse Telnet Service NET STOP UniVerse REXEC Service NET STOP UniVerse Resource Service NET STOP Uni RPC Service This appears to work. The messages come up as everything being successful. I do a 'NET START' to see the services running and it doesn't show
