Re: SQL Server and Crystal Reports

2004-02-12 Thread David Beahm
Recent projects (not related to migrating away from U2, fortunately) 
have landed two of these on my desk:

  "Mastering Crystal Reports 9" by Cate McCoy and Gord Maric

  "SQL Server 7: A Beginner's Guide" by Dusan Petkovic

The CR manual is pretty sharp -- I only ran into trouble when trying to 
develop custom VB and web interfaces, and then only because of some 
less-documented "features" that a lot of other people on the community 
site ran into.  If you want things like that solved quickly, be prepared 
to pay for support. (Note: CR version 10 was released just last month, 
and this book was published before CR 9 was available.)  I can also 
offer VB source code for a standalone viewer.

The SQL manual steps fairly lightly, introducing basics before going 
into details, and it covers the various parts of SQL Server pretty well. 
 I've had to use trial and error to make some fairly basic relational 
tables with useful constraints, but having a decent client like 
SQLExecMS (www.laplas-soft.com) is a tremendous help.  You might want 
another book that focuses on Transact-SQL to flesh this one out.

Just an observation: I was really disappointed that with version 9 CR 
has completely abandoned the standalone report viewer as a means of 
distribution.  I'm sure doing so simplifies their support, shows their 
ability to support web interfaces, and generates better licensing 
revenue, but I didn't appreciate all the extra work it took to 
distribute a few reports to just a handful of users.

HTH,
David Beahm
Mark Johnson wrote:

I would like to know the best beginning books for either of these two topics. I don't yet want a reference, rather to know if 'Dummies' Books are appropriate or if anyone else has better beginning selections.

My UD client migrating to these wants to keep me and this is the environment.

thanks.

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Re: SQL Server and Crystal Reports

2004-02-11 Thread Susan Lynch
Mark,

I don't know about SQL books, but I have found the Crystal manuals to be all
that I needed to customize forms for our clients who have used Crystal
Reports.  The manuals are pretty good - they included enough examples to get
me going!

Susan M. Lynch
F.W. Davison & Company, Inc.



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I would like to know the best beginning books for either of these two
topics. I don't yet want a reference, rather to know if 'Dummies' Books are
appropriate or if anyone else has better beginning selections.

My UD client migrating to these wants to keep me and this is the
environment.

thanks.

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RE: SQL Server and Crystal Reports

2004-02-11 Thread Brian Leach
Mark,

Not quite an answer to your question, but the first thing I would do would
be to get your client to set up an MSDN subscription. The library will help
you loads once you get past the initial learning curve and need to see how
to do things, and has sample applications to check out. Remember that if you
want to 'play', you can load a copy of the MSDE (Microsoft Data Engine)
which is fully SQL server compatible (available with professional versions
of Office, Visual Studio 6 and .Net) but has a smaller footprint and no
licence requirements. As well as SQL Server, (SQL and TransactSQL) you will
probably need to know about the various interfaces, so the MSDN is a good
choice for reference materials on subjects such as OleDB (ADO).

I don't know what the various editions cost - we get the Enterprise edition
which is pricey, but not for what you get, and includes a 10 user SQL server
licence as well as licences for all the MS platforms, office versions,
development tools etc. If your client wants to retain you this could be a
very good investment on their part.

Regards,

Brian Leach




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I would like to know the best beginning books for either of these two
topics. I don't yet want a reference, rather to know if 'Dummies' Books are
appropriate or if anyone else has better beginning selections.

My UD client migrating to these wants to keep me and this is the
environment.

thanks.

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