Re: [Ubnt_users] Wood Utility poles???

2016-08-19 Thread Jay Weekley 
It just hasn't been a problem for us.  Maybe symmetrical distribution of 
wind load or some other factor.  Of course, all of our poles will twist 
by 20 degrees now that I said this.

Josh Luthman wrote:
>
> What?  Power poles don't twist.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
> On Aug 20, 2016 12:11 AM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" 
> > wrote:
>
> We have been told ours would twisthaven't seen too much of it tho
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Jay Weekley 
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group 
> *Sent:* Friday, August 19, 2016 10:58 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Wood Utility poles???
>
> We use them and twist isn't a problem but since we don't have
> a bucket
> truck arranging access to the equipment is a problem.
>
> Jonathan Taylor wrote:
> >
> > Is anyone using 50 or 60 foot Class 1 poles
> >
> >
> > On Aug 19, 2016 3:17 PM, "Andy Trimmell"
> 
> >  >> wrote:
> >
> > Where's the radome? It helps on the wind load
> >
> > *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
> 
> >  >
> > [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
> 
> >  >] *On Behalf Of *Faisal
> Imtiaz
> > *Sent:* Friday, August 19, 2016 4:14 PM
> > *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> > *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Wood Utility poles???
> >
> > That's a 3ft dish on a 30-35 ft wood pole
> >
> > We made a mistake on the mount, which allowed for the
> pipe to
> > rotate after strong winds, we fixed that after having to
> re-adjust
> > once 2nd time had to go up was to replace the radio
> after the
> > pole took a direct strike (to a gps antenna mounted on
> top of the
> > pipe  but did not have to adjust the dish.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Faisal Imtiaz
> > Snappy Internet & Telecom
> > 7266 SW 48 Street
> > Miami, FL 33155
> > Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 
> 
> >
> > Help-desk: (305)663-5518 
>  Option 2 or
> > Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
> 
>  >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> >
> > *From: *"Jonathan Taylor"  
> > >
> > *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group"  
> > >
> > *Sent: *Friday, August 19, 2016 1:34:37 PM
> > *Subject: *[Ubnt_users] Wood Utility poles???
> >
> > Anyone using wood Utility poles. What is the max
> height
> > you would go before any swaying would really cause
> issues with
> > a two foot dish near the top with a omni ten foot
> above it on
> > two inch od pipe
> >
> >
> > ___
> > Ubnt_users mailing list
> > Ubnt_users@wispa.org 
> 
> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
> 
> >  >
> >
> >
> > ___
> > Ubnt_users mailing list
> > Ubnt_users@wispa.org 
> 
> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
> 
> >

Re: [Ubnt_users] Wood Utility poles???

2016-08-19 Thread Josh Luthman 
What?  Power poles don't twist.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Aug 20, 2016 12:11 AM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" 
wrote:

>
> We have been told ours would twisthaven't seen too much of it tho
>
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Jay Weekley 
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group 
> *Sent:* Friday, August 19, 2016 10:58 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Wood Utility poles???
>
> We use them and twist isn't a problem but since we don't have a bucket
> truck arranging access to the equipment is a problem.
>
> Jonathan Taylor wrote:
> >
> > Is anyone using 50 or 60 foot Class 1 poles
> >
> >
> > On Aug 19, 2016 3:17 PM, "Andy Trimmell"  > >> wrote:
> >
> > Where's the radome? It helps on the wind load
> >
> > *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
> > >
> > [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
> > >]
> *On Behalf Of *Faisal Imtiaz
> > *Sent:* Friday, August 19, 2016 4:14 PM
> > *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> > *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Wood Utility poles???
> >
> > That's a 3ft dish on a 30-35 ft wood pole
> >
> > We made a mistake on the mount, which allowed for the pipe to
> > rotate after strong winds, we fixed that after having to re-adjust
> > once 2nd time had to go up was to replace the radio after the
> > pole took a direct strike (to a gps antenna mounted on top of the
> > pipe  but did not have to adjust the dish.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Faisal Imtiaz
> > Snappy Internet & Telecom
> > 7266 SW 48 Street
> > Miami, FL 33155
> > Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 
> >
> > Help-desk: (305)663-5518  Option 2 or
> > Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net  >
> >
> > 
> 
> >
> > *From: *"Jonathan Taylor"  > >>
> > *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group"  > >>
> > *Sent: *Friday, August 19, 2016 1:34:37 PM
> > *Subject: *[Ubnt_users] Wood Utility poles???
> >
> > Anyone using wood Utility poles. What is the max height
> > you would go before any swaying would really cause issues with
> > a two foot dish near the top with a omni ten foot above it on
> > two inch od pipe
> >
> >
> > ___
> > Ubnt_users mailing list
> > Ubnt_users@wispa.org  >
> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
> > 
> >
> >
> > ___
> > Ubnt_users mailing list
> > Ubnt_users@wispa.org  >
> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
> > 
> >
> >
> >
> > ___
> > Ubnt_users mailing list
> > Ubnt_users@wispa.org
> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
>
> ___
> Ubnt_users mailing list
> Ubnt_users@wispa.org
> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
>
>
> ___
> Ubnt_users mailing list
> Ubnt_users@wispa.org
> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
>
>
___
Ubnt_users mailing list
Ubnt_users@wispa.org
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users

Re: [Ubnt_users] Wood Utility poles???

2016-08-19 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller 

We have been told ours would twisthaven't seen too much of it tho

  - Original Message - 
  From: Jay Weekley 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 10:58 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Wood Utility poles???


  We use them and twist isn't a problem but since we don't have a bucket 
  truck arranging access to the equipment is a problem.

  Jonathan Taylor wrote:
  >
  > Is anyone using 50 or 60 foot Class 1 poles
  >
  >
  > On Aug 19, 2016 3:17 PM, "Andy Trimmell"  > wrote:
  >
  > Where's the radome? It helps on the wind load
  >
  > *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
  > 
  > [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
  > ] *On Behalf Of *Faisal Imtiaz
  > *Sent:* Friday, August 19, 2016 4:14 PM
  > *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
  > *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Wood Utility poles???
  >
  > That's a 3ft dish on a 30-35 ft wood pole
  >
  > We made a mistake on the mount, which allowed for the pipe to
  > rotate after strong winds, we fixed that after having to re-adjust
  > once 2nd time had to go up was to replace the radio after the
  > pole took a direct strike (to a gps antenna mounted on top of the
  > pipe  but did not have to adjust the dish.
  >
  > Regards
  >
  > Faisal Imtiaz
  > Snappy Internet & Telecom
  > 7266 SW 48 Street
  > Miami, FL 33155
  > Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 
  >
  > Help-desk: (305)663-5518  Option 2 or
  > Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 
  >
  > 
  >
  > *From: *"Jonathan Taylor"  >
  > *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group"  >
  > *Sent: *Friday, August 19, 2016 1:34:37 PM
  > *Subject: *[Ubnt_users] Wood Utility poles???
  >
  > Anyone using wood Utility poles. What is the max height
  > you would go before any swaying would really cause issues with
  > a two foot dish near the top with a omni ten foot above it on
  > two inch od pipe
  >
  >
  > ___
  > Ubnt_users mailing list
  > Ubnt_users@wispa.org 
  > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
  > 
  >
  >
  > ___
  > Ubnt_users mailing list
  > Ubnt_users@wispa.org 
  > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
  > 
  >
  >
  >
  > ___
  > Ubnt_users mailing list
  > Ubnt_users@wispa.org
  > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users

  ___
  Ubnt_users mailing list
  Ubnt_users@wispa.org
  http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users___
Ubnt_users mailing list
Ubnt_users@wispa.org
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users

Re: [Ubnt_users] Wood Utility poles???

2016-08-19 Thread Jay Weekley 
We use them and twist isn't a problem but since we don't have a bucket 
truck arranging access to the equipment is a problem.

Jonathan Taylor wrote:
>
> Is anyone using 50 or 60 foot Class 1 poles
>
>
> On Aug 19, 2016 3:17 PM, "Andy Trimmell"  > wrote:
>
> Where’s the radome? It helps on the wind load
>
> *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
> 
> [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
> ] *On Behalf Of *Faisal Imtiaz
> *Sent:* Friday, August 19, 2016 4:14 PM
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Wood Utility poles???
>
> That's a 3ft dish on a 30-35 ft wood pole
>
> We made a mistake on the mount, which allowed for the pipe to
> rotate after strong winds, we fixed that after having to re-adjust
> once 2nd time had to go up was to replace the radio after the
> pole took a direct strike (to a gps antenna mounted on top of the
> pipe  but did not have to adjust the dish.
>
> Regards
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518  Option 2 or
> Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 
>
> 
>
> *From: *"Jonathan Taylor"  >
> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group"  >
> *Sent: *Friday, August 19, 2016 1:34:37 PM
> *Subject: *[Ubnt_users] Wood Utility poles???
>
> Anyone using wood Utility poles. What is the max height
> you would go before any swaying would really cause issues with
> a two foot dish near the top with a omni ten foot above it on
> two inch od pipe
>
>
> ___
> Ubnt_users mailing list
> Ubnt_users@wispa.org 
> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
> 
>
>
> ___
> Ubnt_users mailing list
> Ubnt_users@wispa.org 
> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
> 
>
>
>
> ___
> Ubnt_users mailing list
> Ubnt_users@wispa.org
> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users

___
Ubnt_users mailing list
Ubnt_users@wispa.org
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users

Re: [Ubnt_users] Wood Utility poles???

2016-08-19 Thread Kees H 
No sway, but we got a big bubba.  Ditto on the twisting.  As a matter of 
fact my realignment is due this weekend.

80 ft pole 10 ft into the ground.


-Original Message- 
From: Duncan Scott
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 10:40 AM
To: ubnt_users@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Wood Utility poles???

The issue is that over time the poles tend to twist slightly during the
course of the year.

We find that if we have a 2ft dish / 10 mile link we may have to go out
and adjust the link twice a year. Swaying has not been an issue but our
poles are not really high (40ft).


On 8/19/2016 10:34 AM, Jonathan Taylor wrote:
> Anyone using wood Utility poles. What is the max height you would go
> before any swaying would really cause issues with a two foot dish near
> the top with a omni ten foot above it on two inch od pipe
>
>
>
> ___
> Ubnt_users mailing list
> Ubnt_users@wispa.org
> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
>

___
Ubnt_users mailing list
Ubnt_users@wispa.org
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users 

___
Ubnt_users mailing list
Ubnt_users@wispa.org
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users

Re: [Ubnt_users] Wood Utility poles???

2016-08-19 Thread Jonathan Taylor 
Is anyone using 50 or 60 foot Class 1 poles

On Aug 19, 2016 3:17 PM, "Andy Trimmell"  wrote:

> Where’s the radome? It helps on the wind load
>
>
>
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
> *On Behalf Of *Faisal Imtiaz
> *Sent:* Friday, August 19, 2016 4:14 PM
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Wood Utility poles???
>
>
>
> That's a 3ft dish on a 30-35 ft wood pole
>
>
>
> We made a mistake on the mount, which allowed for the pipe to rotate after
> strong winds, we fixed that after having to re-adjust once 2nd time had
> to go up was to replace the radio after the pole took a direct strike (to a
> gps antenna mounted on top of the pipe  but did not have to adjust the
> dish.
>
>
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
>
> --
>
> *From: *"Jonathan Taylor" 
> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" 
> *Sent: *Friday, August 19, 2016 1:34:37 PM
> *Subject: *[Ubnt_users] Wood Utility poles???
>
> Anyone using wood Utility poles. What is the max height you would go
> before any swaying would really cause issues with a two foot dish near the
> top with a omni ten foot above it on two inch od pipe
>
>
> ___
> Ubnt_users mailing list
> Ubnt_users@wispa.org
> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
>
>
> ___
> Ubnt_users mailing list
> Ubnt_users@wispa.org
> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
>
>
___
Ubnt_users mailing list
Ubnt_users@wispa.org
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users

Re: [Ubnt_users] Wood Utility poles???

2016-08-19 Thread Andy Trimmell 
Where’s the radome? It helps on the wind load

 

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 4:14 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Wood Utility poles???

 

That's a 3ft dish on a 30-35 ft wood pole

 

We made a mistake on the mount, which allowed for the pipe to rotate after 
strong winds, we fixed that after having to re-adjust once 2nd time had to 
go up was to replace the radio after the pole took a direct strike (to a gps 
antenna mounted on top of the pipe  but did not have to adjust the dish.

 

Regards

 

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

 



From: "Jonathan Taylor" 
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" 
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 1:34:37 PM
Subject: [Ubnt_users] Wood Utility poles???

Anyone using wood Utility poles. What is the max height you would 
go before any swaying would really cause issues with a two foot dish near the 
top with a omni ten foot above it on two inch od pipe


___
Ubnt_users mailing list
Ubnt_users@wispa.org
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users

___
Ubnt_users mailing list
Ubnt_users@wispa.org
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users

Re: [Ubnt_users] Wood Utility poles???

2016-08-19 Thread Duncan Scott 
The issue is that over time the poles tend to twist slightly during the 
course of the year.

We find that if we have a 2ft dish / 10 mile link we may have to go out 
and adjust the link twice a year. Swaying has not been an issue but our 
poles are not really high (40ft).


On 8/19/2016 10:34 AM, Jonathan Taylor wrote:
> Anyone using wood Utility poles. What is the max height you would go
> before any swaying would really cause issues with a two foot dish near
> the top with a omni ten foot above it on two inch od pipe
>
>
>
> ___
> Ubnt_users mailing list
> Ubnt_users@wispa.org
> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
>

___
Ubnt_users mailing list
Ubnt_users@wispa.org
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users

[Ubnt_users] Wood Utility poles???

2016-08-19 Thread Jonathan Taylor 
Anyone using wood Utility poles. What is the max height you would go
before any swaying would really cause issues with a two foot dish near the
top with a omni ten foot above it on two inch od pipe
___
Ubnt_users mailing list
Ubnt_users@wispa.org
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users

Re: [Ubnt_users] MTU Size Changes Itself on Rocket M2

2016-08-19 Thread Scott Lambert 
What's your PPPoE server?  Yesterday afternoon I got a call from a tech at a 
customer location.  Yahoo main page loaded.  The yahoo mail login page did not. 
 The customer's linksys router had lost the internet port a few years ago, so 
every device was using the ubnt radio in router mode with pppoe, 1492 MTU.  

I lowered the MTU on the tech's laptop and everything worked.  A bit later I 
noticed that the dynamic PPP MTU fixup rules on the MikroTik PPPoE server were 
at the bottom of the list and not being reached.  Moving those rules to 
position 0 solved the customer's issues.

I suspect most consumer routers are better at dealing with PathMTU discovery  
blackholes than Windows TCP/IP stack.  That *may* be why we only had one 
customer complaint.  I'm not sure why AirOS didn't handle it, if that's the 
case.

I'm not sure how the rules ended up out of order after months of correct 
operation.  I suspect it happened when I updated the mangle packet marking 
rules via a script.  But it could be a RouterOS 6.26 bug.  I've not dived into 
deeply enough to prove any theory.  I probably won't bother if it doesn't 
happen again.   I have scheduled it to upgrade to 6.34.6 tonight. 


On August 19, 2016 6:38:46 AM CDT, Sam Morris  wrote:
>On 8/18/2016 2:41 PM, Scott Lambert wrote:
>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 08:55:29AM -0500, Sam Morris wrote:
>>> There is nothing in the event section of the AC2 server, nor is
>there
>>> any indication of the MTU size getting changed in the radio's logs.
>>> (There is an entry in the event log from when I changed it from 1492
>->
>>> 1500 bytes, but that's the only thing related to this.) (I checked
>>> Saturday and Sunday's logs - nothing to indicate the MTU size was
>>> changed.) I'm continuing to investigate - if anyone has another
>thought
>>> I'd welcome it :)
>>
>> Maybe the AP has been set that way for a long time.
>>
>> Did you recently change any firewall rules to block ICMP?
>>
>> If ICMP is working, PathMTU discovery can work and connections can
>deal
>> with arbitrary MTU limits along the path.  The TCP/IP stacks just
>lower
>> the MSS until they no longer receive ICMP packet too big responses.
>
>Hi Scott,
>
>Nope, I'm positive nothing changed on the firewall. (No one other than 
>me has the credentials to login to either the AP or the firewall.) I
>did 
>consider it, but really don't think the AP MTU size could've been set 
>like that all along as it was completely preventing customers 
>(especially those with a Mac) from working; as soon as I changed it to 
>1500 they immediately started working again. My thinking is if it had 
>been set that way all along they wouldn't have ever worked (they've
>been 
>working for months).
>
>At this point, after going through all the AP logs and AC2 logs, I have
>
>to think that there was something in that wonky switch port that
>must've 
>somehow caused the setting to change. I can't prove that, but can rule 
>out anything else (assuming the logs can be trusted). I did see entries
>
>from other APs where I was experimenting with increasing the MTU size -
>
>each time I made a change there was a corresponding log entry in both 
>the AP log as well as the AC2 log. The only recent entry is from when I
>
>increased it from 1492 to 1500. There were 15,000+ errors on that port 
>on the Netonix, and while I find it difficult to believe the switch 
>caused that setting to change like it did, I can find nothing else 
>remotely close to offering reasonable suspicion, short of a hacker 
>getting into the Rocket and changing it - but were I to hack an AP, 
>changing the MTU size wouldn't be high on my list of things to do once
>I 
>gained access :)
>
>Sam
>
>___
>Ubnt_users mailing list
>Ubnt_users@wispa.org
>http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users

-- 
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.___
Ubnt_users mailing list
Ubnt_users@wispa.org
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users

Re: [Ubnt_users] AC2 Documentation

2016-08-19 Thread Matt Hardy via Ubnt_users 
Hi Sam,
The majority of what we have is here:
https://help.ubnt.com/hc/en-us/sections/200918980-airControl2

If you don't find what you're looking for you can let me know or create a
new thread in the AC2 forum. As AC2 is about to become final, we'll be
adding more documentation.

Thanks,
Matt

On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 6:54 PM, Sam Morris  wrote:

> Anyone know where to find documentation for AC2? Specifically, I'm trying
> to create some alerts (i.e., alert me if MTU size changes on an AP,
> although I'm not holding out much hope for that without some creating curl,
> wget, or ssh scripting). I see references to "AC2's expression editor" in a
> blog post, however can find neither the expression editor nor formal
> documentation. I may not be looking in the right place but I've exhausted
> everyplace I can think of took look.
>
> I'd also like to make some other rules to let me know if an AP reboots for
> instance. I figured out how to make the rule, but applying it to specific
> radios in the topology doesn't seem intuitive (at least not to me). I did
> ask this question on the ubnt community site as well but thought I'd ask
> here too as this is much easier to follow. :)
>
> Thanks
> Sam
>
___
Ubnt_users mailing list
Ubnt_users@wispa.org
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users

[Ubnt_users] AC2 Documentation

2016-08-19 Thread Sam Morris 
Anyone know where to find documentation for AC2? Specifically, I'm 
trying to create some alerts (i.e., alert me if MTU size changes on an 
AP, although I'm not holding out much hope for that without some 
creating curl, wget, or ssh scripting). I see references to "AC2's 
expression editor" in a blog post, however can find neither the 
expression editor nor formal documentation. I may not be looking in the 
right place but I've exhausted everyplace I can think of took look.

I'd also like to make some other rules to let me know if an AP reboots 
for instance. I figured out how to make the rule, but applying it to 
specific radios in the topology doesn't seem intuitive (at least not to 
me). I did ask this question on the ubnt community site as well but 
thought I'd ask here too as this is much easier to follow. :)

Thanks
Sam
___
Ubnt_users mailing list
Ubnt_users@wispa.org
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users